*pics* For Otfn *pics* *props*

*pics* For Otfn *pics* *props*

Well just so you guys can see who I am I say I am (a 180lb weakling ) I borrowed a camera and here are my pics be gentle meatheads!

Pull your fucking pants up fag. This aint Freakyshiat.

Grouch Pull your fucking pants up fag. This aint Freakyshiat. sorry man, I did realise they were low and pulled them up

haha australian thuggin'. i can see asscrack in picture 1. thats just wrong. however, not bad structure there. its kinda what i imagined noxen crossed with me would look like. you know, after you remove the super-powers and stuff.

well you are leaner then me. therefore i hate you.

nukegoat haha australian thuggin'. i can see asscrack in picture 1. thats just wrong. however, not bad structure there. its kinda what i imagined noxen crossed with me would look like. you know, after you remove the super-powers and stuff. well I think I fall right in the middle of noxen and you weight wise so props. In for pics of nukegoat

everybody

Peal In for pics of nukegoat

Peal well I think I fall right in the middle of noxen and you weight wise so props. In for pics of nukegoat

thats a picture of me when i was 18, when i was taking pictures to try to get OP back in the day. it didn't really work, FYI btw, 4 years later, i still have that shirt.

nukegoat teaches Bad Ass Forearms 101



and this is a pic i took just now, in the attire i'm currently wearing. thats as good as it gets, im not going to wank around and try to pose

nukegoat and this is a pic i took just now, in the attire i'm currently wearing. thats as good as it gets, im not going to wank around and try to pose

cazzone nukegoat teaches Bad Ass Forearms 101 this from the guy who asked me to teach him to "drive a stick"

Hey man!!! You look bigger than when I saw you last!! You have been eating, I see. PROPS

nukegoat this from the guy who asked me to teach him to "drive a stick"

cazzone nukegoat teaches Bad Ass Forearms 101 He's a little bitter that im better at crunking though.

Grouch He's a little bitter that im better at crunking though. you weren't always i should've thwarted this and got you a bottle of estrogen for your birthday

big mofo nukegoat nice bro. I aim to hit your fatness level sometime this year, only been going like 9months or something edit: you almost look australian with that hat

Peal big mofo nukegoat nice bro. I aim to hit your fatness level sometime this year, only been going like 9months or something edit: you almost look australian with that hat thanks, i tilt at an angle to make myself look bigger. it shows off the depth of my frame which is more impressive than the width (narrow shoulders).i think you're stronger than me i got the hat from my old roommate. she was cool, she hooked me up with food all the time. my new roommate is supposed to be 6'8 he moves in tomorrow

this thread rocks. and peal, not lookin too bad EDIT: except for the first pic... that kinda weirded me out

thread hijacked you guys both look good

you look like dave draper minus 80 pounds of rip

I seriously thought that that was your ass for a second, and threw up in my mouth a little.

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So, I think this is the last question I have about the Christophers routine

So, I think this is the last question I have about the Christophers routine

I am to fat and to weak to do a pull up. Thats right sports fans I cant even get 1. So what I would like to know is should I substitute preacher curls for the wednesday pull ups? If so I am assuming 5x5 sets with last set being 5rm? Thanx for the help F&N

I lied this is the last question what is a bent over row and how do I do it.

Silver85327 I am to fat and to weak to do a pull up. Thats right sports fans I cant even get 1. So what I would like to know is should I substitute preacher curls for the wednesday pull ups? If so I am assuming 5x5 sets with last set being 5rm? Thanx for the help F&N WTFsubstitution. Why in teh living fuck would you substitute preacher curls for pullups? Try pull downs or assisted pullups.

Silver85327 I lied this is the last question what is a bent over row and how do I do it. step 1. bend over step 2. grab bar and pull it up into stomach

Do negatives. Also, try to work in a one of these during the week if you want. http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=260chin2

Try to find an assisted pull up machine kinda thing...I'm using one and i've worked my way up...It's kinda embarrassing, but hey. Going to the gym is embarrassing when you're not the broly...

Aahhh, I remember being fast last year not bein able to do a pull up (was never ever able to do one my whole life) Lost like 100 lbs and packed on alota muscle after loosing it. Now I can do 10 pulls ups, and wow does it feel awsome. I always am pulling myself up on things, lol. good luck =)

ACURA TL-S WTFsubstitution. Why in teh living fuck would you substitute preacher curls for pullups? Try pull downs or assisted pullups. Unlike you I dont know what im doing or what would be a good excersise to supstitute for pull ups. Hence the reason I am on F&N and thats why I asked.

y0gfx Try to find an assisted pull up machine kinda thing...I'm using one and i've worked my way up...It's kinda embarrassing, but hey. Going to the gym is embarrassing when you're not the broly... Hey we all had to start somewhere. When I started a couple years ago I could only get maybe 1-2 pullups. Worked on the assisted for awhile and now I can do 4 sets of 15 pullups without a problem. Never once did I think it was embarassing or anything. You are there which is more than can be said about 90% of the population. You have to learn to crawl before you can walk.

Go to google, switch to images, type in the name of the exerxise you want. Much easier and more helpful!

preacher curl: http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Brac...acherCurl.html works this muscle: http://exrx.net/Muscles/BicepsBrachii.html pull up: http://exrx.net/WeightExercises/Lati.../WtPullup.html works this muscle: http://exrx.net/Muscles/LatissimusDorsi.html there is some usage of the bicep on pull ups, however you could not supplant curls for a back excercise. hope that helps by the way get familiar with this:http://exrx.net/Lists/WtMale.html will help you tons when figuring out name of exercises and what muscles they involve

Silver85327 Unlike you I dont know what im doing or what would be a good excersise to supstitute for pull ups. Hence the reason I am on F&N and thats why I asked. Fair enough...pullups work the lats, preacher curls don't.

y0gfx Try to find an assisted pull up machine kinda thing...I'm using one and i've worked my way up... They're helpful when starting out

So, I think this is the last question I have about the Christophers routine

My freak 17 year old thrower/football player with pics

My freak 17 year old thrower/football player with pics

A picture of him doing a 45lbs hub lift, that was his 2nd lift in a row too A picture from his set of 4 at 565 The kid is a monster he will go to what ever D1 school he wants to. 6-3 240lbs with a 4 pack abs 305 clean 350 raw bench 4.8 40yard, he's working on it he runs like he has a stick in his ass and its holding back his throwing a lot 4.1 shuttle 31" vertical

wait, so are you a coach?

forum95 wait, so are you a coach?

forum95 wait, so are you a coach? Throwing coach at my local high school.

Grouch Throwing coach at my local high school. thats pretty damn cool

impressive clean edit: look at the kids lookin at him in the squatting pic

the squat bar looks like it's riding on his neck...

Grouch The kid is a monster he will go to what ever D1 school he wants to. So long as it's UCLA.

eXyle So long as it's UCLA. He just got a letter from them today But he's a JR so letter right now don't mean anything. But if he gets the stick out of his ass he can be an easy 60+ footer in the shot, and if he goes to their camp again next year he may get an offer for track if not football.

Carnifex What is he doing in the first pic? picture of him doing a 45lbs hub lift, that was his 2nd lift in a row too. He does no grip training either.

KetchupKing the squat bar looks like it's riding on his neck... werd that shit looks hella uncomfortable

ibillegalsquatcomments from 'da haters.

I think I can safely say there is nobody that strong in my high school. But I also think I can safely say their lifting program is flawed.

nukegoat ibillegalsquatcomments from 'da haters. i was gonna say somethuing, then i was thinking, hell i probably could not even un rack that...

amazing. Is that a LOT better than most guys coming out of HS for football? or is it like slightly better? i dunno whats normal for D1 football recruits.

That's insane. I tried throwing in highschool, i was horrible

Grouch The kid is a monster he will go to what ever D1 school he wants to. 6-3 240lbs with a 4 pack abs 305 clean 350 raw bench 4.8 40yard, he's working on it he runs like he has a stick in his ass and its holding back his throwing a lot 4.1 shuttle 31" vertical 1. Does having a 4 pack ab make you a better football player? 2. Does lifting 305 clean or 350 bench make you a better football player? 3. Does having a 31" vertical make you a better quarterback? You have a lot to learn about sports. Games aren't won in the gym, they are won on the field.

Incog91 1. Does having a 4 pack ab make you a better football player? 2. Does lifting 305 clean or 350 bench make you a better football player? 3. Does having a 31" vertical make you a better quarterback? You have a lot to learn about sports. Games aren't won in the gym, they are won on the field. 1) shows a low body fat 2) yeah actually 3) he's a d-end/center You've never played a sport in your life have you?

Grouch 1) shows a low body fat 2) yeah actually 3) he's a d-end/center You've never played a sport in your life have you? this is the same douche bag claiming he is a giant in a forum of mi9dgits or some bull shit, go eat a fucking cock you douche bag.

vettedude this is the same douche bag claiming he is a giant in a forum of mi9dgits or some bull shit, go eat a fucking cock you douche bag. I cant tell if your with or against grouch but I agree with grouch.

thats extremely beast.

Incog91 1. Does having a 4 pack ab make you a better football player? 2. Does lifting 305 clean or 350 bench make you a better football player? 3. Does having a 31" vertical make you a better quarterback? You have a lot to learn about sports. Games aren't won in the gym, they are won on the field. Thank you for that. Made my night

http://www.sparqtraining.com/page.asp?SID=1&Page=65 He's Robert Best That is his latest Nike Sparq combine

Incog91 1. Does having a 4 pack ab make you a better football player? 2. Does lifting 305 clean or 350 bench make you a better football player? 3. Does having a 31" vertical make you a better quarterback? You have a lot to learn about sports. Games aren't won in the gym, they are won on the field. I don't know about you but I have never seen a center block without the use of his shoulders or arms. But you know, I could be wrong.

Incog91 1. Does having a 4 pack ab make you a better football player? 2. Does lifting 305 clean or 350 bench make you a better football player? 3. Does having a 31" vertical make you a better quarterback? as far as getting into a D1 school...... yes. They will coach him on how to play the game.. you cant coach size and natural stength though you obviously have a few things to learn about sports

My freak 17 year old thrower/football player with pics

Cutting advice

Cutting advice

I used to do HIIT 3x/week, but I haven't done it for about 6 months or so and I'm starting to see a little bit of fat around my face and such from the bulking I've been attempting. I read the threads about fat loss and I know that weightlifting is most effective at burning fat, however, I still have some questions. 1. Any reason to lift lighter w/ higher reps for cutting? Seems like it would make for a lower EPOC. 2. Is it wise to use creatine while cutting? 3. Should I stick to mostly low-GI carbs for post-workout meals? My plan so far is to lift just as I have been with lots of intensity (no more than 12 reps/set, 4 sets per exercise or 3 when super-setting) and to do HIIT 3x/week on my off days from the gym. And of course, watch the diet very closely-- keep eating EFA's, plenty of fruits and veggies, 1g protein/lb. body weight, etc etc, lather rinse repeat. Suggestions?

Cutting advice

Cutting advice

Andro

Andro

I was offered androgen pills at the gym today from a friend. he says there legal in canada and the only side effects are minor kidney damage - ie. no worse than heavy drinking on the weekend. he said he wanted to split half a bottle with me and i called him an idiot. he went on convincing me there was nothing wrong with them, and i was just curious what you guys think. i want to take the hard route and do everything by myself and just take protien power, but he said ill be huge in no time. i know nothing about them and wanted your guys opinions.

you are canadian what do i care?

that's the wrong andro

hahaha minor kidney damage

androstat poppers made my teeth buff.

ib70homeruns

Canada has far tighter restrictions on hormones than the US. If it's illegal in the US, it's definetly illegal in Canada.

KetchupKing Canada has far tighter restrictions on hormones than the US. If it's illegal in the US, it's definetly illegal in Canada.

well apparently its the same shit mark maguire took, i dont know shit about it, but from the posts above it sounds like its a waste of time

mcguire first off didnt take andro, secondly, he said he took DHEA which has an extremely high conversion rate to estrogen so, good luck with that.

Mass mcguire first off didnt take andro, secondly, he said he took DHEA which has an extremely high conversion rate to estrogen so, good luck with that. mcguire admitted to using Androstenedione

ok, so he threw a lil andro in there with his test and deca...

Mass ok, so he threw a lil andro in there with his test and deca... haha basically

Andro

Unfit v.April 21st

Unfit v.April 21st

Thats how them chubs are. My ex was like that. I'd just say hey, you should maybe cut back on that stuff and shed flip telling me i shouldnt tell her this and that blah blah. I just let her get fat. She gained like 30 pounds hahahah

whats a cruller?

nic379 whats a cruller? i was wondering that myself

nic379 whats a cruller? i have no clue

a cruller is a pastry, basically a donut

SoKo a cruller is a pastry, basically a donut ahhhh, haha now it's funny

SoKo a cruller is a pastry, basically a donut aight now i get it too late though, aint funny anymore. Unfunny v.April 21st

SoKo a cruller is a pastry, basically a donut maybe he was bulking

superbri007 and the guy they had to stun was Ilyusha



why does his name have to be mike

Moon omg that looks so good i now have to kill you for making me want a doughnut

tize omg they just opened a crispy kreme here and i ripped that shit up, i ate a dozen then 48 holes I think they just closed the one around here. Apparently they weren't doing well enough.

That is the worst joke of all time --- ever

tize well this is the only one within like 2 hours and it expected 50,000 customers the first day and they beat that heh How many registers do they have? That seems impossible.

tize drivethrough, they had inside lined up to the parking lot, they had H3's out there showing them off because huge GM plant is here. The drivethrough line was about 100cars deep the whole day 100cars deep for Krispy Kreme?

tize no joke they had cops out there directing trafic and shit Were the giving out free blowjobs with each order or something? Who'd wait in a 100 car line for a fucking doughnut?

tize i went before they closed and waited in a 20 car line for like for 25mins . I got 6 glazed(hot), 3 maple, 3 apple cinnimons and alot of holes Damn, they have one that just opened up a few months back located about 10 miles away from me, I haven't tried it yet, I've never had them hot before, at least not fresh, only microwaved.

Unfit v.April 21st

Should my muscles be sore after a good workout?

Should my muscles be sore after a good workout?

Today i worked out my bis/forearms, and had a really good/intense workout. i did: 3 x 10 DB curls. 2 x 10 EZ-bar Curls 3 x 10 Hammer curls 2 x 10 Preacher Hammer curls 3 x 10 forearm (pronated grip) BB curls i cooled down with a few concentration curls as well. i did all that with weights that i could barely lift on my last couple reps but my muscles feel fine right now. The only time i have sore muscles is after my peck+tri days. why is this?? should i be sore right now?

Yes, general muscle soreness is a sign of a good workout. Pain is not usually a good sign.

DAN513 Yes, general muscle soreness is a sign of a good workout. Pain is not usually a good sign. well then what am i doing wrong?

DAN513 Yes, general muscle soreness is a sign of a good workout. Pain is not usually a good sign. Muscle soreness can also be a sign your doing improper form.... and actually hurting your muscles...

ok so then should i be changing anything in my workout? i know i did alot of sets, many until failure, and lifted hard. but i don't feel it!

Do you workout with a partner? Are you going heavy or light? Could you go heavier with a spotter?

since switching to a new routine im finding im sore for more days than usual.... im usually sore for 24 hours, now im sore for atleast 72 which im never that sore, and i have to coat myself in icy hot to feel better.....my form seems on as the exercises are what im used to but im not sure what im doing wrong

DAN513 Do you workout with a partner? Are you going heavy or light? Could you go heavier with a spotter? yea i do have a partner but how do you spot someone for curls. maybe negatives?

go to www.t-nation.com and listen to the interview with charles staley on the left side, it says "D-Tap 7: Charles Staley"

if you're not sore it doesnt mean you are not growing that may actually be a good thing.

I used to get sore after arms days, but not anymore. I just get to failure and must stop

you need more types of curls so your muscles dont get so sore

What type of soreness? Do you do any stretching afterwards?

I'm almost never sore anymore.

People need to realize that there are enough knowledgeable people on the board that if they don't know what the fuck they're talking about they should just shut up and wait for a proper answer. Like the fact that no one has mentioned lactic acid buildup in muscles as a cause and ways to handle that. Fucking read, learn, and experience before you give someone advice.

I've been lifting for six years and I have some degree of soreness after every workout.

dont have to be sore to grow

When you get up the next mourning and your muscles aren't sore but they still feel like they have a little pump going on. I think that might be the best.

soreness and pain are two different things

after heavy deads I have some back soreness for quite a while

Natezilla Like the fact that no one has mentioned lactic acid buildup in muscles as a cause and ways to handle that. Lactic acid has nothing to do with soreness

Ceaze Lactic acid has nothing to do with soreness Really? What is it's function then? Edit: Did some research. I wonder why I thought that?

Natezilla Really? What is it's function then? Edit: Did some research. I wonder why I thought that? [Siff, Supertraining 2003 pp. 77-78] Contrary to popular belief, lactate is not a toxic by-product or waste-product of metabolism accelerated by exercise. Lactate is produced even under conditions of rest and actually can serve as a valuable extra substrate (or source) of energy. When sufficient oxygen again becomes available via rest or decrease in exercise intensity, lactate is reconverted to pyruvate for use as an energy source. In addition, the lactate and pyruvate formed in muscle during exercise can be used to manufacture glucose by gluconeogenesis in a process known as the Cori cycle. This supplements any existing blood glucose and muscle glycogen. Moreover, muscle fatigue is not due to 'lactic acid poisoning' of the muscles. The formation of lactate (or lactic acid) is accompanied by the presence of positively-charged hydrogen ions (H+) or protons. These electrical charges, which increase the acidity of the blood, can interfere with the muscle contraction process and the efficiency of the enzymes involved in energy production. Neither should lactic acid be regarded as the cause of muscle soreness, since blood lactate levels return to normal within an hour or so of strenuous interval training.

Should my muscles be sore after a good workout?