Creatine + Clen

Creatine + Clen

During the ECY stack I had no concerns with [testing my rats with] CEE. Now that Ive moved [my rats] on to slightly more potent agents, I would rather not risk dehydration or the other assumed risks in the combo. Is is safe or should I hold out on [feeding my rats] the CEE till after the cycle? ib4flames.

i'm no pro, but dont creatine and clen do opposite things? i thought creatine helped retain water, and clen helped get rid of it?

not that this has to do with your question but i find this story of clen very alarming and interesting. Ack what a nightmare. 1 gram Clenbuterol was obtained, later it was measured and dissolved into water to make the proper amount ratio per ml. But looky here: Some clenbuterol, what seemed to be very little stayed on the tool which was used to move the clenbuterol from one container to another. Hey there (I thought in stuper), why dont I taste the remain and see what happens. (Can you think of something more ingeniues?--looking back, it was one of my most stupid and dangerous decisions of my life) Apparently an amount of approximately 5 - 8 miligram of clenbuterol was sublingually ingested, possibly more. (normal dose is at the microgram area), for those who dont know Clenbuterol is active at even 100 mcg. with the ~5000-8000 mcg that was ingested, some 50-80 times stronger the active dose, some unwanted effects might occur if you plan to live a healthy life, dont mistake where I have. T+30: Strange feeling, as if consciousness had changed, but not similiar to anything I ever felt. T+1h: Feeling somewhat better than normal (if only I would know what was ahead of me....) Is this clenbuterol i thought? T+2h: Heart rate is higher, but not alarming. T+3h: Eyes are open wide, and face is feeling stretched, something is building up, and fast. T+4h: Eyeballs seem to receive some greenish color besides the normal white... and quite amount of axienty had built up, dizzyness and nausea, but somewhat consciousness enhancement, certainly not a good time. T+5h: feeling quite ill, heart begins to speed up, and for the next 24 hours the heart rate stays at a steady alarming 125-135 beats per minute (WHILE LYING DOWN WITH HEAD ON PILLOW), i could hear my heart with my ear as the vains in my head and the entire body are all swallen up and beating, I can feel the blood pumping intensively, and I feel as I am ready to explode. My girlfriend urges me to get an ambulance, but I disagree, hoping its going to be fine and reassuring her i'm 'okayyyy.' My entire body was dancing to the beats of my heart; and it was the worst tune you could ever imagine. T+6h: From here on after for the next 18 hours, intense pressure in my head and limbs had built up, eyes got more wide open, and skin more stretched. T+12h: It feels as if my heart cant take it anymore as i feel it loosens in some fraile way, and begins to irregularly beat, which is extremely uncomfortable, and quite dangerous. T+13h: I get dehydrated rather easily, and my tempeature is 38 degrees celceus. T+15h: for the past hour the tempeature has risen +1 degree. I am now considering the ambulance theory (in my head), as I feel I cant take much more of this. T+16h: The pressure in the head is unbearable and keeps on increasing, the pain arises as if the skull pressures the brain and there is a psychological feeling as if brain fluid is frying the brain, from the temperature T+17h: A cold shower really helped ... ALOT. T+19h: Another shower helped. T+20h: I'm quite tired and exhusted, but in agonizing head pain fearing taking any sedatives since i dont know what interacts with this and how; i take 750mg Paracetamol. T+21h: Feeling a bit better, but still -- headache is anguishing, I am utterly exhusted and afraid to fall asleep, although possibly, i can. T+24h: Heart rate down to 120 per minute, and tempeature had decreased by two degrees the past two hours, a nice opportunity to get some sleep T+32h: Woke up.... (Thank God, I'm alive!) heart rate is still at a steady 120 beats per minute while lying down #!$#!$#!$!% T+42h: heart rate down to a steady 105 beats per minute t+70h: 65 beats per minute, lying down. For the following week, intense vain, skin, and eye pain was felt, besides the utter exhustion and the sharp pain in the center of the head. Thank God, For He saved me from my stupidity That only my faith kept me going, thougout this living nightmare. There were many side effects during the experience, of pseudohallucenogenic nature: closed and open eye visual effects, very hard stimulation; food was tasteless and meaningless, and would result in vomiting; nothing could be drank besides water, or heartburn would occur, and it did, from drinking Cola, alone. Increased sweating, and increased resperation, hard amphetamiine-like jitterness which lasted throughout the entire horryfing experience, highly-extremely increased metabolic rate, tempeature changes, general change in consciousness, ear popping, and some more things. Overall, This was my first experience with this pseudosteroidical substance, which i didnt take seriously, and i paid the price, and i'm lucky i'm alive to report it. Dont be stupid. If you cant measure something properly, and or not sure of its potency - DO NOT DO IT: as tempting or curiousing as it may be, you might not be as lucky as I was. What a nightmare Thank God its over. for your rats sake ;x

Dunken not that this has to do with your question but i find this story of clen very alarming and interesting. for your rats sake ;x wow i bet your buddy was ripped after that

My rats take it in 20mcg tab form. Not much risk of overdose there. They are at 80mcg today. While in the most general sense they would appear to have opposing impacts, but on a cellular level they have little to do with eachother. My rats are drinking a 1.5-2 gallons of water per day so I think most of the risk is mitigated, but I want to be sure.

IMHO i think that you wont look as good as if you did creatine for like 4 weeks and then ran your clen because w/ clen you are trying to lose bf and look shredded and depending on how you respond to creatine you might have water retention leaving you slightly bloated. cliffsne makes you bigger, the other makes you smaller, so run the big then the small

supposedly that is the advantage of CEE, it eliminates the hydrogen thereby eliminating the water retention. The use would be to retain as much muscle while maintaining a caloric deficit stacked with a potent metabolic enhancer.

iwishiwascool supposedly that is the advantage of CEE, it eliminates the hydrogen thereby eliminating the water retention. The use would be to retain as much muscle while maintaining a caloric deficit stacked with a potent metabolic enhancer. huh i havent done the research on CEE (haha but bought it anyway) well then i guess go for it?

Dunken not that this has to do with your question but i find this story of clen very alarming and interesting. for your rats sake ;x yea that guy was a dope i read that post on another board from him

gsteclipse97 yea that guy was a dope i read that post on another board from him yeah, he admits being an idiot, which i credit him for. but to me, just making that little of a mistake such as, mis measuring, etc and getting thoes sides? its just not worth it to fuck around with in my opinion.

the caffeine is what dehydrates you, not the ephedrine or clen

Dunken yeah, he admits being an idiot, which i credit him for. but to me, just making that little of a mistake such as, mis measuring, etc and getting thoes sides? its just not worth it to fuck around with in my opinion. if you buy the liquid pre diluted instead of makin it yourself then you should have nothing to worry about unless you are a real dope who cant measure correctly. i dont see how anyone could screw it up if you took 10 seconds to measure it and double check

I bought 500g of CEE from bulknutrition today.

How much potassium and taurine are your rats taking?

AznRyda How much potassium and taurine are your rats taking? 5g taurine, just banannas for cramps when I feel them. When I can tell the rats feel them.

i need to supp with magnesium to get rid of the cramps

The first few days were crazy. It wasnt the big muscles... just the lil ones. Id be sitting still for a while and my entire back would cramp up. Or my hands or toes.... ect. I was fine today.

Creatine + Clen

F & N jews... passover is killing my energy

F & N jews... passover is killing my energy

Maybe I am not being creative, but not being able to eat starches and leavened foods is killing my energy levels. I need to get maltodextrin, which I assume is ok for the days of passover?!?! is it? Are any of you guys following the holiday properly? (Apparantly I cant even have my shakes with my meals cause of there contents!! Passover is killing my workouts )

I'm actually not keeping passover this year, but here are some good foods to eat for carbs: rice (if you're sephardic rice is ok) Whole wheat matzah (actually isn't bad. I think it tastes better than white) apples bananas potatoes ( i lived off baked potatoes last year) more apples Technically, malto is a corn product and corn products are a on passover Article about malto and passover http://www.ou.org/oupr/2004/coffeepass04.htm

maltodextrin is a starch

Ceaze maltodextrin is a starch I hate eating matzah, it just doesnt taste right with things like tuna and stuff. Since saturday I have been sooo low energy and have noticabley lost weight. Probably water mainly, but I am lethargic without my lean gainer shakes and my pastas and everything. Passover is going to make me go into keto

You're Jewish? I am not celebrating..

pre-law or pre-med?

Perplexed Stop being a jew BOOYAH!

lol, at first glance i read "F'n jews" and thought it was gonna be an anti-semetic rant.

kronik85 lol, at first glance i read "F'n jews" and thought it was gonna be an anti-semetic rant. same here.

Mass pre-law or pre-med?

Are oats ok?

Ilyusha You're Jewish? I am not celebrating.. :slovo: I never kept it even when I lived in Israel

hm i actually had some bacon with bread this morning.. im a bad jew

Ilyusha You're Jewish? I am not celebrating.. yep why no celebrate?

2000GT yep why no celebrate? I dunno.. I've been bad with the holidays lately. I went to an orthodox Jewish school for.. 8.. years.. .. so I had A LOT of time to celebrate and learn the Torah and such. I'll get back on the wagon in time for Yom Kippur.

Mass pre-law or pre-med? lol. I am a network/telecom admin not smart enough to be a doc.

Ilyusha I dunno.. I've been bad with the holidays lately. I went to an orthodox Jewish school for.. 8.. years.. .. so I had A LOT of time to celebrate and learn the Torah and such. I'll get back on the wagon in time for Yom Kippur. I hate doing the fast. this is almost more painfull though

2000GT I hate doing the fast. this is almost more painfull though Last year, I boned on Yom Kippur and had a not so good rest of the year. So this year, I'm fasting like a motherfucker.

Ilyusha Last year, I boned on Yom Kippur and had a not so good rest of the year. So this year, I'm fasting like a motherfucker. dont fuck with the holiest day of the year!

2000GT dont fuck with the holiest day of the year! Nevar again!@~

F & N jews... passover is killing my energy

No muscle pain the next day means I am not working out hard enough?

No muscle pain the next day means I am not working out hard enough?

Initially when starting back at the gym (after a month or 2), I would feel that really nice muscle pain. However after a week or 2 it would go away and never come back again as long as I routinely went to the gym...does this mean I am not working out hard enough? I want to feel that damn pain.

kingrukus does this mean I am not working out hard enough? No.

ok thanks

What Ceaze said :P Soreness after workouts isn't an adequate indicator that you had a good workout. As long as you're progressing- more weight, more reps, etc- you're doing fine.

if i dont workout hard enough i dont get sore, only goes for my chest, lats, quads and butt. i randomly get sore in my arms and shoulders

Are you taking any supplements? They can aid in loss of muscle fatigue. I really haven't felt any pain after a work out in a few years.

no supplements here. i think i get sore because i dont eat enough because im so poor.

Mike4831 Are you taking any supplements? They can aid in loss of muscle fatigue. I really haven't felt any pain after a work out in a few years. No, no suppliments other than taking Whey occasionally (which I am going to start taking everyday).

ryazbeck no supplements here. i think i get sore because i dont eat enough because im so poor.

kingrukus No, no suppliments other than taking Whey occasionally (which I am going to start taking everyday). Careful, I hear that stuffs toxic to your kidney. Make sure you've done atleast a year of research before starting on that crap.

ralyks Careful, I hear that stuffs toxic to your kidney. Make sure you've done atleast a year of research before starting on that crap.

ralyks Careful, I hear that stuffs toxic to your kidney. Make sure you've done atleast a year of research before starting on that crap. my kidneys *ACK* FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lylemcd I would strongly argue that DOMS is a pretty worthless indicator of muscle damage. Just too much variance there and any researcher who used something so subjective would be doing a pretty bad job of it. Resercher: So, are you sore today? Subject: Yup, my hips feel like I'm a hooker who serviced the fleet last weekend. Researcher (makes mark on clipboard): Yup, he's got that thar muscle damage. Sorry, that's crap. Lyle .

ralyks Careful, I hear that stuffs toxic to your kidney. Make sure you've done atleast a year of research before starting on that crap. Are you serious

Whey protein is dangerous unless taken in VERY small doses.

No muscle pain the next day means I am not working out hard enough?

How do I permanently remove a hair?

How do I permanently remove a hair?

I wasn't sure exactly where to post this question but i figure this forum is the most appropriate where I may get serious replies. I basically have this one single hair growing on my right arm that is long. My arms are generally hairless, but i got this one hair that just keeps growing back. it is very unsightly. It is actually white colored hair (im asian) and it grows about one inch in length. Everytime i cut it or tear it out, it just grows back. It's ugly! Im afraid to cut it or pull it again cuz im afraid it might grow back thicker and thicker and become one of those nasty big thick hairs that can be seen a mile away. I seen on a TV infomercial before that there is this electronic device where you clamp over a piece of hair and you activate it to send a pulse and it supposedly sends an electronic pulse down to the root of hte hair and prevents it from growing back. So basically, my question is, how do i kill this fucker and prevent it from growing back?

just keep plucking it or shaving it. hair doesnt grow back thicker, it's a myth..that's not how your endocrine system works. just keep cutting it

Dht

superbri007 electrolysis, or laser sugery, i believe. But very very expensive. Save your hairs, I bet we'll have an Ice Age in our lifetimes hippy

I keep gettin some random hairs that grow what seems like a inch over night

Electrolysis/lasers. It's one hair, shouldn't be too expensive. See a dermatologist or even a plastic surgeon.

Burn yourself to kill your hair follicle and create forever ingrown hair?

mtnbike4522 I keep gettin some random hairs that grow what seems like a inch over night those monsters started popping up on my shoulders

just wax it/pluck it, you pussy.

~*Pogovina*~ just wax it/pluck it, you pussy. this isnt about the pain. i plucked it a few times and it just grows back. my entire arm is bare except for this one lone hair which makes me look like a freak. i want to remove it permanently.

is it that tought to just pluck it out every other week?

Phlab is it that tought to just pluck it out every other week? for the rest of my life, yes.

I believe scar tissue does not grow hairs, so you can just cut yourself. Just remember it's down the road, not across the street. Or you can just pass a razor over it everytime you take a shower, it can't be that much of an inconvenience. EDIT:If it's white, then it should not be that noticeable anyways.

How do I permanently remove a hair?

Creatine Monohydrate VS CEE?

Creatine Monohydrate VS CEE?

Creatine Monohydrate VS CEE? Can anyone explain the difference and sum up the pro/cons of one vs the other? From here I have read the following so far.. 1. 10x more soluble in water than creatine monohydrate. Therefore, it will absorb from the intestines better, achieving higher blood levels faster and preventing the upset stomach that some people get from monohydrate. 2. It's much more stable, won't degrade into creatinine in the stomach. 3. You bloat with monohydrate and do not with CEE Pardon my lack of intellgence, but what does it look/feel like to bloat? Feels like you have eaten too much? Thanks

What else do you need to know, there are like 11ty billion threads on this topic in this forum alone.

CEE is better than mono because I haven't tried mono and am saying this based only on like 3 weeks of CEE usage and have no other clinical facts to prove this whatsoever. So order CEE today.

wasn't there just a study done showing that the products claiming to be CEE didn't really have much or even any CEE in them?

Grouch wasn't there just a study done showing that the products claiming to be CEE didn't really have much or even any CEE in them? Chris called BS on em.. there was a thread with another link in it proving otherwise or some shit.

Ilyusha Chris called BS on em.. there was a thread with another link in it proving otherwise or some shit. mike at 1fast said he was waiting a month to get back the purity results of the stuff he has in stock, so i'm waiting on that before i order it

CEE is mono that is esterfied. It make the creatine able to dissolve completely in water, making it better absorbed and effective at lower doses. Not many studies have been done on cee...but the results speak for themselves imo. I get mine from customnutritionwarehouse because they test every patch they get for purity, because there has been an issue with fake cee.

evi1eddie mike at 1fast said he was waiting a month to get back the purity results of the stuff he has in stock, so i'm waiting on that before i order it http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=16726

Higher Power CEE was found to contain approximately 0% CEE

christophers really? considering the only place that has a standard for testing is the place mike goes to, how is it possible to get an accurate result? most labs have no clue what theyre doing wrt to CEE, mike has said this althouh it is quite possible it has none http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=416886 misplaced the 1

Creatine Monohydrate VS CEE?

Just picked up my True Protein order v. mini review

Just picked up my True Protein order v. mini review

Just up this 50lb puppy at the post office. It turned out to a beastly thing to carry. The corners give no grip at all as pulls away like cloth, so i ended up carrying it one hand under the box and one hand over to keep its position. It was the longest 1km walk in my life... i dont think my biceps survived So I opened up the box and am greeted with a face full of chocolate powder. I guess they forgot to close the cap as the empty bottle was in one corner and the cap in the other. They gave me a crap load of choclate (to clean up after) but I only got 50g each of the other flavours. I end up mixing the entire banana bottle with just 4lb of whey. I can smell the banana but no taste at all... tastes just like plain. It mixes very well as does all instanized protein. Also, the big bags of whey were closed with a plastic tie cord thing that I just pulled off by twisting. It's a miracle I didn't get a box full whey powder in my face too. I also picked up some chocolate powder from the bottom of the box (about 50g worth) and stuffed it in my mouth because i'm an idiot like that. Tasted chocolately I don't see how it can flavour more than 1lb of whey though Costco is selling 6lb of whey for $30... wish I gone for that



Time to email them those pics and get some sort of a refund

WHere the hell did you order that from? I'm thinking you just bought that from the back of a van..

yah, I get the 5lb from costco for like $21

i really dislike that company

Ill never order from that company just based off of this thread, thats the worst packing job i have ever seen.

I'd be pissed if I got an order like that.

superbri007 that shits ghetto the owner of the company IS called doggcrap

Seriously.. Email them those pics and bitch about their shitty packing, you'll definitely get some sort of compensation.

Mistich i really dislike that company any particular reason? I think a few other people had problem with getting broken stuff with their order too, but at least they respond to email and ship fairly quick. I got my order in ten days.

Phlab Seriously.. Email them those pics and bitch about their shitty packing, you'll definitely get some sort of compensation. I've already have... no responses yet though but i'll post results as it happens

KetchupKing any particular reason? I think a few other people had problem with getting broken stuff with their order too, but at least they respond to email and ship fairly quick. I got my order in ten days. For one, Both of the BSL orders that I have recieved were very bland, and just as expensive if not more than the real BSL back in the good ole days. next, it took them 3 days to ship out both of my orders which isnt what im looking for in a good company. vettedude had ordered something on here that ended up taking 1 month to be delivered to his house, he told me the customer service was horrible....most of the time he couldnt even reach someone to talk to and when he did they pretty much just said they'd ship it out ASAP. ASAP to them was 3 weeks. i dont mean to bash the company all together, but TP < * in my book

they are the only bulk protein store that ships from Canada... they only need to beat out retail stores that sell whey 5lb at a time. (And as of this week, they're aren't even beating them on price )

damn thats nasty. i placed a huge order from them around last november and got it within 4 days, no problems at all

Mistich For one, Both of the BSL orders that I have recieved were very bland, word.

holy fucking get a refund.

KetchupKing they are the only bulk protein store that ships from Canada... they only need to beat out retail stores that sell whey 5lb at a time. (And as of this week, they're aren't even beating them on price ) doesnt SND as well?

looks tasty



dmaestro holy fucking get a refund. that just sent me an email saying they'll send me another bottle of chocolate flavouring and an extra 5lb of their whey. i guess i'm easily pleased

I emailed them twice after placing an order. No response either time. The protein tasted bland and I ended up mixing muscle milk with it.

Just picked up my True Protein order v. mini review

is rollerblading beneficial at all?

is rollerblading beneficial at all?

well? whats it doing for me...any toning or fat burning?

Any physical activity is better than none Reults depend on if you are trying to speed skate around an ovel for 4 hours or just lazily douching around the park.

rollerblading is a hell of a workout

joy division Any physical activity is better than none Reults depend on if you are trying to speed skate around an ovel for 4 hours or just lazily douching around the park. about an hour of cruising around neighborhoods..going up some hills...going fast....very little lazy douching though

superbri007 no, but I heard that lollarblading is really good

yeees, it gives you nice tone man-glutes

will it burn any body fat, or do any overall toning? or just legs pretty much

it won't burn anything. it'll just give you an onion booty. no but seriously, if you do it with enough intensity, it could be a good cardio activity thats easy on the knees compared to jogging.

Rollerblading is horrible

great workout!

if you have to ask, then no

jackjohnson if you have to ask, then no well its definetely " a workout" since i sweat hard and can run out of breath when im skating hard. jw what it actually does for you....like if it tones or burns any fat.

could be decent cardio.. it all depends on your intensity

I used to be an agro skater. Id skate every day for 6 hours or so in the summer. My legs and abs were crazy Though I doubt youll be jumping onto any rails or crazy business like that.

Do you have to say TONE in every god damn post. NO, it will not TONE your muscle. You will lose weight, uncovering what muscle you may have underneth -- giving the appearence of TONAGE (lol?). It is good cardio though (good on the knees), depending on your entensity.

just go to a damn gym

sr20wop just go to a damn gym I can't stand doing cardio in a gym so I normally rollerblade 2-3 times per week during the summer. Yes it is one hell of a workout if you make it. Actually a girl I work with use to speedskate and her and I would go every weekend and not quit till someone gave up. Some days we would end up doing 20+ miles. If you really want some fun basically skate upright for a couple of minutes and then crouch and try and get as far of a kick as possible for a minute or so and as hard as you can. If you have a friend who bikes try and draft them. Did that with a buddy of mine who raced and I could barely breath after a couple of miles. What muscles you work depend on your stance very similiar to an efx machine. If you are low you are going to notice it more in the whole leg if you are upright more in the middle of your legs.

iwishiwascool I used to be an agro skater. Id skate every day for 6 hours or so in the summer. My legs and abs were crazy Though I doubt youll be jumping onto any rails or crazy business like that. Use to aggressive to and it was amazing how much you really had to stay constrictinged and were squeezing your abs. Especially on rail grinds.

Inline skating is my favorite cardio exercise. What muscles you work and how much you work them depends much on what kind of stance you use when skating and the intensity you skate at. Using proper speed skating form will work pretty much everything in your lower body and back. If you have paved recreation trails that you can just zone out in your skating form, that will be the best. What kind of skates are you using?

Davo Inline skating is my favorite cardio exercise. What muscles you work and how much you work them depends much on what kind of stance you use when skating and the intensity you skate at. Using proper speed skating form will work pretty much everything in your lower body and back. If you have paved recreation trails that you can just zone out in your skating form, that will be the best. What kind of skates are you using? my bauer hockey skates......thats all ive ever used since i was a kid.

I used to go through 2 pairs per season. The set that I ended with were the Razor Cults. They were nice.

Davo Inline skating is my favorite cardio exercise. What muscles you work and how much you work them depends much on what kind of stance you use when skating and the intensity you skate at. Using proper speed skating form will work pretty much everything in your lower body and back. If you have paved recreation trails that you can just zone out in your skating form, that will be the best. What kind of skates are you using? I started rollerblading 12 years ago it was a b-day present from my parents since I wanted something else to supplment my cycling. I basically have sticked with rollerblade brand the whole way. Right now I am on the Rollerblade Aero 2 got an awesome deal on them at a local sporting store that stopped carrying the rollerblade brand. The only problem I have is the boot is uncomfortable and almost makes my foot go numb but after a couple of miles almost like it breaks in and I don't have a problem. I use to have K2 and that was a nice boot. If I could take the Aero 2 skate and add the K2 boot it would have been perfect. What you got?

iwishiwascool I used to go through 2 pairs per season. The set that I ended with were the Razor Cults. They were nice. Even when i was doing agressive I used rollerblade old school with the hard plastic boot. First skate I ever owned. Had a couple sets of wheels and bearing that I would switch depending if I was doing x-training, aggressive, or even playing hockey. God I miss that skate but man it would get hot. Ton of armor on it. Tore through grindplates like it was nothing.

jshively What you got? I have the Rollerblade Lightning 09 2004 model, had them for about a year. They're a five-wheel skate, built for fitness/speed. The boot is amazing, and even after a long (15-20 mile) skate, I hardly feel like I had them on. The only downside to having skates with such a long frame is that you can't do too many 'fun' things, other than going 25-30mph. They just aren't that agile. Plus, you have to pay to play: when my bearings wore out, it cost over $100 to replace them.

You guys are making me miss rollerblading, about 10 years ago I skated just about everywhere

is rollerblading beneficial at all?

How to kick higher?

How to kick higher?

How does someone train their legs to kick much higher? I am assuming just stretching your legs out and practicing kicking would do it?

Thats one way to do it...alot of it has to do with your hips being too tight. For example if you can do the splits you'll have an easier time kicking high. Dynamic stretching helps a bit as well, but relaxed and other kinds of stretching are just as important.

All about the flexibility.

relaxed stretching first, then with tension. do both kinds of splits (side and middle). do stretch up kicks to loosen the hamstrings. practice your kicks about a million times. I dunno if this attatchment will work right, I just came back to the board, but this is me at about 19.

Maestro Nobones relaxed stretching first, then with tension. do both kinds of splits (side and middle). do stretch up kicks to loosen the hamstrings. practice your kicks about a million times. I dunno if this attatchment will work right, I just came back to the board, but this is me at about 19. That is really impressive. If I want to kick higher, should I do those stretches everyday? Or can I overexert them?

I dunno I developed the ability over about a year's time. Your body should tell you how much pushing yourself is OK. Don't let yourself get comfortable until you are at your desired amount of stretch, but let yourself reach that point gradually; don't force it. If you work for it, it'll come.

I have trained in several martial arts for quite sometime and I always found that easiest way to improve your kicking height is simply practice kicks, and stretch. Stretch not only your legs, but also your groin, hips, glutes, and sides of abs. A combination of both intensive stretches and a lot of kicking practice will get you there.

stretching is one thing, flexibility is another. So yeah, you've gotta be pretty flexible.

3 or 7

VinSVT 3 or 7

hes right. posts 3 and 7. practice and flexibility.

Socrates How does someone train their legs to kick much higher? I am assuming just stretching your legs out and practicing kicking would do it? are you in martial arts or sumpin(serious, not trying to be a dick). cuz if you wanna become an all around better fighter, there is a very slim chance that in a real world fight you will get the chance to kick someone in the face if thats what you are after. if you are lifting at the same time that can be deleterious to your flexability goals. ive lost about 20% of my flexability in the last few weeks

incubimmer deleterious ,., ohh, fancy word...i like that one

incubimmer are you in martial arts or sumpin(serious, not trying to be a dick). cuz if you wanna become an all around better fighter, there is a very slim chance that in a real world fight you will get the chance to kick someone in the face if thats what you are after. if you are lifting at the same time that can be deleterious to your flexability goals. ive lost about 20% of my flexability in the last few weeks Yeah, actually. I grew up wrestling with my older brother, then wrestled in high school a bit. Took some boxing lessons at a gym for a few months, but gave it up pretty quick. I joined up with a MMA training gym (Springfield Fight Club) a couple months back and have been into it ever since. Going to jail for fighting directly after turning 17 got old REAL fast, and I have always been pretty addicted to fighting sports. I'm going to work on getting my martial arts belts through the military (easy to do at the Reserve Center here), and was going to continue training at the MMA gym and hopefully get set up with some good fights. A few of the guys travel around and fight, so I think it will be good teaching. The reason I want to get better at kicking now is because my friends set me up fights with guys from other towns or other guys for $50 a fight, and I can't get over the adrenaline rush from the fight. My kicks are weak, and when I kick someone in the head, it usually isn't very powerful. I figure I shouldn't do too much leg weight training.

Leo95SE hes right. posts 3 and 7. practice and flexibility. Dang you seriously knew what was going on there.

As long as you continue to train your flexibility separately, leg weight training is fine, how do you expect to kick hard with weak legs? look at cro cop, he ktfo'd so many people with his tree trunk legs... you gotta weight train, just continue to practice your high kicks too!

Maestro Nobones As long as you continue to train your flexibility separately, leg weight training is fine, how do you expect to kick hard with weak legs? look at cro cop, he ktfo'd so many people with his tree trunk legs... you gotta weight train, just continue to practice your high kicks too! I'll make sure to do that then!

How often/ what kind of stretching do you do? Flexibility isn't set in stone, you can change it. There are shitloads of exercises you can do to increase flexibility, especially for legs...your #1 problem is probably your hips being too tight. How far can you go down into the splits? Being able to do the splits isn't necessary for good kicking but it will make it easier.

I should make a pictoral stretch guide

funny you should mention that http://tinyurl.com/cx2s6 http://tinyurl.com/dz4tg

nice links

Leo95SE funny you should mention that http://tinyurl.com/cx2s6 http://tinyurl.com/dz4tg the second link is not working for me. only part of it comes up

right click, save link as.

Leo95SE ohh, fancy word...i like that one no one smiley posts (had 2 add ome words in )

Socrates Yeah, actually. I grew up wrestling with my older brother, then wrestled in high school a bit. Took some boxing lessons at a gym for a few months, but gave it up pretty quick. I joined up with a MMA training gym (Springfield Fight Club) a couple months back and have been into it ever since. Going to jail for fighting directly after turning 17 got old REAL fast, and I have always been pretty addicted to fighting sports. I'm going to work on getting my martial arts belts through the military (easy to do at the Reserve Center here), and was going to continue training at the MMA gym and hopefully get set up with some good fights. A few of the guys travel around and fight, so I think it will be good teaching. The reason I want to get better at kicking now is because my friends set me up fights with guys from other towns or other guys for $50 a fight, and I can't get over the adrenaline rush from the fight. My kicks are weak, and when I kick someone in the head, it usually isn't very powerful. I figure I shouldn't do too much leg weight training. that makes more sense, shit i fight for free fairly regularly (not set up in advance tho), wish i could get $50 2 do it

How to kick higher?

Name food that you eat while cutting/dieting.

Name food that you eat while cutting/dieting.

Just want to see what everyone likes to eat while they are cutting/dieting. I want to know what's good and what's bad. I usually eat Chicken Breast and Tuna. What about Potatos? Are most fruits healthy?

Blue Bell Sugar free popsicles hehe

Just wanted to see what everyone else ate while cutting/dieting. On Sugar Hill Refer to sticky

Eggs, tuna, chicken, turkey, ground turkey, ground beef, steak, beef jerky, vegetables, almonds, peanuts, sunflower seeds, peanut butter, shredded wheat, whole wheat bread, skim milk, etc...

depends on how hard I'm dieting

shastaisforwinners depends on how hard I'm dieting if i'm serious, tuna it is. if i'm not, spicy tuna rolls here i come

im technically cutting right now and im going to go eat some chicken quesadillas.

turkey sandwiches, chicken breast and rice, cereal

Egg Whites All Bran Apples Bananas Almonds (Blanched) Wasa Bread Crackers Flax Bread Chicken Breasts Carrots+Celerey Mushrooms Fat Free Yogurt Ultra Lean Chicken Breast+Turkey Breast (Deli Sandwhich Meat) Lean Steak Brown Rice Unsweetened Apple Sauce

cereal, beer

turkey

CLA as a sup.

anything, just less of it

Low fat cottage cheese, chicken, tuna, lean beef, skim milk, olive oil, egg whites, asparagus, green beans, spanish, protein powder.

i dont know but im hungry as hell right now..and i still have the taste of whey in my mouth.

egg whites/chicken breast with oatmeal and hot sauce Also ate tuna too. Pretty boring diet. Love eating back at maintainence.

eggs whole wheat bread tuna chicken turkey corn green beans peas apples bananas oats celery carrots mrp's whey protein peanuts

D-GUy egg whites/chicken breast with oatmeal and hot sauce Also ate tuna too. Pretty boring diet. Love eating back at maintainence. mm hot sauce. the only thing as far as "dressing" goes in my fridge that's 0,0,0,0,0 everything

I use the asian hot chilli oil which is like 5 calories for every tablespoon of the stuff. Though when I was dieting down I was using alot of oatmeal, still do though now though, guess it's force of habit.

chicken, tuna, sperm, wheat bread, mustard, carrots, green beans, peas, corn, lean steak, turkey, 100%whey protein powder, strawberries, bananas, egg whites, and I get a free day every week to eat whatever i want.

pop tarts

i had chick fil a on friday

nic379 chicken, tuna, sperm, wheat bread, mustard, carrots, green beans, peas, corn, lean steak, turkey, 100%whey protein powder, strawberries, bananas, egg whites, and I get a free day every week to eat whatever i want. Sperm?

Foods that I like, lower portions and healthier versions (lite/sugarfree/etc...) i don't push myself too hard to eat superclean or only certain things. I already eat pretty clean as it is, minus a cheat meal here or there...

egg whites like a mug. you can get low fat/carb protein powder, any lean chicken and beef, Non Fat Carb Countdown Milk (0g fat, 3g carbs, and like 14g protein per cup)

Name food that you eat while cutting/dieting.

Well its official...

Well its official...

i am going bald. doc said only thing he would recommend i do if im that attatched to my hair is hair plugs. im guessing the m5aa agravated it and now its on a role. so looks like i will be going to get some clippers soon. fuck it. he said rogain or propecia might help but im not even gonna bother wasting the time and money



Mike McDermott see if you can get steroids for it haha that would be awesome

If you're going bald,just shave off all your hair on your head. I hear women like it.

t3nchi If you're going bald,just shave off all your hair on your head. I hear women like it. thats what i plan on doin, i dont care if the women like it i dont think i will like it though

whaaat, post a pic first

gsteclipse97 thats what i plan on doin, i dont care if the women like it i dont think i will like it though i don't like it but the girls do. you get used to it... and getting checked out more often by girls, especially the cute cardio girls, doesn't hurt. i guess, in the end, all that really matters is that my parents hate it.

Shaved heads > *

Mass whaaat, post a pic first i will later no pics on the comp, its not that noticeable as of now cause i have a thick head of hair but i am losing probably 30-50 hairs a day it looks like when i shower

Ilyusha Shaved heads > * we will see, i know i have a few scars from fights and im white as hell so just another place to add sunscreen

just get on the propecia, if you know where to look you can get it super cheap, like 50 bucks for more than 8 months worth...

Mass just get on the propecia, if you know where to look you can get it super cheap, like 50 bucks for more than 8 months worth... i am mainly losing it in the front, he didnt think propecia would help a ton. i know you can get the powder from ibe. do you know how long it takes to see a difference?

start shaving your chest, and the first thing I noticed was my body hair started growing back at a much slower rate... thats when you know its kickin, for me, took about 3 weeks.

If you have a overseas source, you can get a gram of propecia for 10 bucks... yes thats a 1000 days worth of propecia for 10 bucks

there's very little you can do about hair loss in the front. You can shave it as much as you can and use dht and sebum removing shampoos.

Mass start shaving your chest, and the first thing I noticed was my body hair started growing back at a much slower rate... thats when you know its kickin, for me, took about 3 weeks. the ches tis nice and smooth had it waxed

Mass If you have a overseas source, you can get a gram of propecia for 10 bucks... yes thats a 1000 days worth of propecia for 10 bucks mind sendin me a pm?

how old are you? I started shaving my head a few years ago, I'm 23 now.

MikeTheVike1 how old are you? I started shaving my head a few years ago, I'm 23 now. 23

MikeTheVike1 how old are you? I started shaving my head a few years ago, I'm 23 now. wow, at what age did you start shedding?

evi1eddie i guess, in the end, all that really matters is that my parents hate it. that's clearly the most important thing

Invest in razors and a hat gsteclipse97 i will later no pics on the comp, its not that noticeable as of now cause i have a thick head of hair but i am losing probably 30-50 hairs a day it looks like when i shower Supposedly on average a human sheds 100 hairs from their head a day, the bald people are the ones that don't grow it back.

disblohs that's clearly the most important thing i was kidding

Mass wow, at what age did you start shedding? not really sure, but i thappened pretty quickly. I had a full head of hair when I started goigng out with my ex g/f, and by the time the 8 month relationship was over, I was using a mach 3 on it. I still have hair on the top, but I have a "culdesac" thing going. I also think its thinner than normal in the back. My dad started going bald at an early age also. He hasn't really lost much more since then, so hopefully I'll be the same.

evi1eddie i was kidding

Well its official...

During a max deadlift what is the worst that can happen?

During a max deadlift what is the worst that can happen?

Hernia? Slipped disk?

Tearing a hamstring?

I hurt my back.

I'd say slipped disk or something.

not making the lift, fucking pussy

cavefish Tearing a hamstring?

Take some animalpak vitamins...so you'll be able to rip some hamstrings, pop some disks and then finish your rep.

if you have bad form (most people do) then you may hurt your lower back.

ibdeath

what is the worst thing anything can happen in any situation? ------> anything! wtf?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

your intestines can shoot out your ass

Peal not making the lift, fucking pussy

A big broly can come up and begin to make love with you...and the weights?

your whole back will EXPLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE

wtf topic mothetfucker!!?!

yeah mothetfucker!!!!!!! :shugh]ghdddddddddddd

pokesteve you could shit your pants or rip a nasty fart right as the hot milf is walking by gawking at the weight you're lifting(true story )

lol D-GUy or rip a nasty fart right as the hot milf is walking by gawking at the weight you're lifting(true story )

blow an o-ring.... Why would you max on a deadlift anyways?

deznutz Why would you max on a deadlift anyways?

Tear a bicep.

deznutz blow an o-ring.... Why would you max on a deadlift anyways? maxing out bicep curl is one thing, deadlift another

Shaolin_sword36 maxing out bicep curl is one thing, deadlift another

i had a callous rip off. exposed very raw skin, and it stung like crazy. but i just ripped the rest of it off, and did another few sets. its healing fine.

Peal not making the lift, fucking pussy OMG YUR AN ANIMAL PEAL!lc

During a max deadlift what is the worst that can happen?

I'm so damned sore today

I'm so damned sore today

had my max effort squat on monday and it finally caught up to me sitting in class in those little uncomfortable desks for 2 hours felt like hell

sans_pants had my max effort squat on monday and it finally caught up to me sitting in class in those little uncomfortable desks for 2 hours felt like hell just wait till u try MES Good morinings that always puts me into a new wold of pain

vettedude just wait till u try MES Good morinings that always puts me into a new wold of pain

vettedude just wait till u try MES Good morinings that always puts me into a new wold of pain Never tried max effort on good mornings, but just training lower back in general gives me a horrible feeling while walking back home.

i did legs today and im having probs goin up and down stairs..

I'm so damned sore today

Would OT F&N be interested in starting our own Gripper certification?

Would OT F&N be interested in starting our own Gripper certification?

a la, Gripboard or Grippermania? Were we get a few grippers made of diferent strenghts and mail them to each other in some ordered fashion. Keep the gripper for a week mail it to the next person or to the home location (me ) if there is no one in waiting. Closers get fancy paper certificate and those who close the 2 hardest grippers get a free t-shirt with a logo and OT grip slogan. There would need to be a significant amount of interest though to help pay for the grippers.

hmmm...let me test my crunker first and if all goes well I'll paticipate

i'd be in if i had paypal

jonno i'd be in if i had paypal I take money order too.... I dont know the over all cost, this idea hit me while in the middle of a logic quiz today at school. But I was thinking Robert Baraban grippers found here http://www.handgripper.net/neu/www/index.php, just the basic aluminum ones but with a costom logo its an extra 30$ each. So it would be ~50 per gripper + shipping. Part of the production cost will be in the "cert" fee something like 5$-10$ per person which would cover the actual grippers, paper certificates and tshirts for the 210 and 240 closers. I was thinking of using the 160, 180, 210, 240 lbs grippers so you would have to be able to close a COC1 to really give the 160 a chance. But I wouldn't make any sort of qualifying just to try it. If this took off and in the future a 260 have to be made we could do that.

Sounds like a good idea, but you are going to have to pool a lot of money to get it started. There will probably be a huge demand for the easier grippers because a lot of people here have never touched a gripper before. So you'd have to probably stock up on the easier ones. And it'll screw up the whole line of things if some faggot never returns a gripper.

dmaestro Sounds like a good idea, but you are going to have to pool a lot of money to get it started. There will probably be a huge demand for the easier grippers because a lot of people here have never touched a gripper before. So you'd have to probably stock up on the easier ones. And it'll screw up the whole line of things if some faggot never returns a gripper. Well i would be willing to eat a little money at frist to get the whole thing started. those who wished to donate early would get their cert fee wavied. But the idea is that only one of each strenght gripper exists so that we are all comparing our strenght on the same one. As for some offical rules I like the grippermania ones. The gripper MUST be mailed Priority Mail with a delivery conformation number and insured for $100.00. You must also PM the tracking number to the person who you mailed it to and myself. If the grippers are lost and we cannot track them or get reimbursed because you did not follow these rules you will be held accountable for buying a replacement gripper. To receive the gripper you pay a cert fee of $10.00. This covers priority mail, tracking of delivery, and insurance of $100.00. <XXXXXpaypal addressXXX> Please note in the comments that it is Gripper fee. You will then be responsible for shipping the gripper back as it was shipped to you. Please note*** do not require signature for delivery just a tracking number When you pay the cert fee that covers the shipping to you and a certificate that I am working on having made. You are responsible however for shipping it back to me or the next person at your expense following the shipping rules.

superbri007 what a pain IDB fucking naysayer

you do realize that there are lot of canadian members, and shipping from canada to the US or the other way around is going to cost as much as a gripper right? We'd need at least one set for canada too.

im confused but im in

Sounds like fun, once I graduate from school in June and get a decent job making some decent money.

a friend of mine has the 240 and closes it 6 times...but he has huge ass hands...so I'm not sure if I'll be able to close that crunker...I'll certainly give her a shot tho...shit I tried the 360 and it didn't budge

even if i was interested, customs would kill the idea for anybody in Canuckia

woah, this sounds like a pretty good idea. what weights are the grippers going to be

brolli what weights are the grippers going to be Grouch But I was thinking Robert Baraban grippers found here http://www.handgripper.net/neu/www/index.php, just the basic aluminum ones but with a costom logo its an extra 30$ each. So it would be ~50 per gripper + shipping. Part of the production cost will be in the "cert" fee something like 5$-10$ per person which would cover the actual grippers, paper certificates and tshirts for the 210 and 240 closers. I was thinking of using the 160, 180, 210, 240 lbs grippers so you would have to be able to close a COC1 to really give the 160 a chance. But I wouldn't make any sort of qualifying just to try it. If this took off and in the future a 260 have to be made we could do that dot

KetchupKing you do realize that there are lot of canadian members, and shipping from canada to the US or the other way around is going to cost as much as a gripper right? We'd need at least one set for canada too. They will just have to pay more for shipping.

Grouch They will just have to pay more for shipping. its not that much more...its like 25-50 cents more I ship to Canada all the time

I guess that's a negative ghostrider.

Would OT F&N be interested in starting our own Gripper certification?

Post-bulking *PICS* of me v.imnowfatlikechristophers

Post-bulking *PICS* of me v.imnowfatlikechristophers

Ok, these first pics are from October, I was about 200lbs (6'1"). This was after about 5 months of cutting. I have been bulking hardcore since then and am now at 230 lbs. I'm taking next week off for Spring Break then dieting all spring and summer. Here are pics taken today. So there they are. Being thsi fat gives me plenty of motivation to cut. I can't wait to get back to eating healthy, mixing in more physical activity, and overall just feeling better.

live strong! Nice gains Post your very very very starting pic for some motivation to the light weights here

Excellent Work Werdna. Excellent gains. I admire people like you who can bulk and cut with hard work.

How long have you been training?

shit, ur still thin even in the bulking pictures, i need to post some of my fat ass whenb i weighed 265...

you should stay fat for awhile before cutting

I would have been happy with the body you had in the first picture, damn.

get fatter

wow, quite a difference, how have your numbers changed?

holy shit. good bulk

you got you some love handles like me

Welsh0913 live strong! Nice gains Post your very very very starting pic for some motivation to the light weights here

Ceaze you should stay fat for awhile before cutting why?

Your teeth are very very white

Werdna why? More fat = more gains

Welsh0913 Your teeth are very very white Poor photoshopping. I do it all the time!

nice progress broly

amazing, are body types are so much alike. I look like your current pics right now as well. You don't look like you have a lot of fat around your waist, but its there isn't it? Thats how I am. Looks like your neck/chin area got a little fat on it, thats the only thing pissing me off about bulking.

SickLife holy shit. good bulk .

What are you gonna cut back down to?

i have those same board shorts good job bulking

any gains on your lifts?

Woah.. nice work, fatmo.

Good Job on gaining but like you said you don't look 230

have your gains gone up respectively? if not, hang out at fattyville for a while

Post-bulking *PICS* of me v.imnowfatlikechristophers

What is the best thing to eat in this scenario?

What is the best thing to eat in this scenario?

So you have just woken up, and you NEED to hit the gym right now, since it closes in two hours. You havn't eaten or drank anything since waking up. Do you go to the gym on an empty stomach? or eat some fruit? or some bread? or some protein?

rye bread & raspberry jam & down 30g of liquid protein or so.

dextrose + sucrose + free-form AA's (or whey)

if you are trying to lose weight/fat, then just go.. but make sure you drink water! but if you are trying to bulk up or maintain, then i would drink some protien drink, or eat a fruit..

ANIMALPAK VITAMINS. Thats all you need.

Get some carbs and some protein.

Ceaze dextrose + sucrose + free-form AA's (or whey)

what are you trying to do at the gym? heavy lifting, cardio(for how long), or yoga(empty stomach for sure),.. depends what you are gonna do.

devilangel if you are trying to lose weight/fat, then just go.. but make sure you drink water! but if you are trying to bulk up or maintain, then i would drink some protien drink, or eat a fruit..

tize go back to your myspace forums, did acura give you this address??? im a legit member here. and myspace forum sucks my ass!

tize <3 you mackin on me? hahhaha

prolly a weight gain shake 600 calories + 52 g protien + 15 ounces of water= win

What is the best thing to eat in this scenario?

gravity boots...

gravity boots...

the type you hook on a chin bar... how much do they go for? And are they worth it or not?

i was also curious about those things

I was recommended to get an inversion table for the lower back but I figure the g-boots would also allow me to do some exercises.

I would be afraid of the boots coming unhooked and falling, I've seen someone using them before though, look like they'd be a good exercise

i finally assembled my gravity table and started using it. i haven't gone to full inversion yet, but even at a 30 degree angle it really does help both my lower back and neck. the model i got is called teeter hangups f5000 i think and i had the option to get the gravity boots with it for 80 bucks more but i didn't. if you can, i would get a table over the boots timberwolf, the flexiblity of choosing your angle of inversion and the safety make it worth it to me.

what if you couldn't get down and you toppled over the really expensive fish tank in a gigilo's apartment? no but on a serious note, you can do sit ups with a partner by hanging off his stomach with your legs...yeah sounds really gay but I do it for fight training. Jump up and wrap your legs around the guys waist with your hands around his neck. Let go of his neck, lower down and touch your head to the ground then go up and touch your head to his chest. If you can't do them by yourself grab onto his hands for a little extra help...this is more sport specific as it really works your legs to hold onto the other person, similar to keeping them in your guard on the ground.

joy division what if you couldn't get down and you toppled over the really expensive fish tank in a gigilo's apartment? no but on a serious note, you can do sit ups with a partner by hanging off his stomach with your legs...yeah sounds really gay but I do it for fight training. Jump up and wrap your legs around the guys waist with your hands around his neck. Let go of his neck, lower down and touch your head to the ground then go up and touch your head to his chest. If you can't do them by yourself grab onto his hands for a little extra help...this is more sport specific as it really works your legs to hold onto the other person, similar to keeping them in your guard on the ground. WHAT THE GAY?

Undefined i finally assembled my gravity table and started using it. i haven't gone to full inversion yet, but even at a 30 degree angle it really does help both my lower back and neck. the model i got is called teeter hangups f5000 i think and i had the option to get the gravity boots with it for 80 bucks more but i didn't. if you can, i would get a table over the boots timberwolf, the flexiblity of choosing your angle of inversion and the safety make it worth it to me. Yeah, the inversion boots are definitely recomended above the gravity boots. Glad you got it. As I said besides the cost I really wouldn't have the space.

timberwolf Yeah, the inversion boots are definitely recomended above the gravity boots. Glad you got it. As I said besides the cost I really wouldn't have the space. yea man, i couldn't afford it either but i am willing to put myself in debt when it comes to my health. i charged my visa and its been worth it. as for the space, the model i got folds up to where its only a few inches wide and a few feet high.

joy division Jump up and wrap your legs around the guys waist with your hands around his neck. Let go of his neck, lower down and touch your head to the ground then go up and touch your head to his chest. If you can't do them by yourself grab onto his hands for a little extra help...

Fishbait that was exactly my feeling also.

Ha Ha. This thread is hilarious. On a serious note, I used gravity boots for a long period of time and they were absolutely amazing. You can work so much more and through a far greater field of motion. I wish I owned some.

gravity boots...

4.7.05 1rm - Squat 315lbs

4.7.05 1rm - Squat 315lbs

Passed my goal of 300!!!!! Anyone care to post their 1rm on Squat?

Mine is a little more than that now. Good job 3 wheels feels good huh?

Neo22 Mine is a little more than that now. Good job 3 wheels feels good huh? yeah it does...i was so pumped just putting them on

305 - I want to make it the three 45s. Soon enough!

335 baby, one step ahead!!

Nice, I have been battling a fever and bronchitis all week and went in and did 275 x 5, I was pretty impressed.

christophers 695 Weak sauce.

christophers 695 Nuthin but a peanut

christophers 695 100 bucks says you can do 700

just curious but why the hell do you people do this 1 rep shit?

PurEvl just curious but why the hell do you people do this 1 rep shit? I never maxed out on Squat's before so i thought id give it a try, im going to go back to 300lb or less and work my way up.... Plus we have a strongman competition at the university...i might enter myself

295 i think. Thats from pyramiding up

last time i maxed i got 245 up

PurEvl just curious but why the hell do you people do this 1 rep shit? it make me feel like a big man

Jeg1983 it make me feel like a big man your a pl'er your not trying to get bigger, correct?

christophers pl'rs are always trying to get bigger but stay in their weight class, more muscle = helpful either way you slice it but not in a vanity way. I didnt think dez was trying to be a pl'er? Noobs hammering big weight for 1 rep maxes is nothing more then a recipe for injury.

PurEvl but not in a vanity way. I didnt think dez was trying to be a pl'er? Noobs hammering big weight for 1 rep maxes is nothing more then a recipe for injury. Agreed plus I have lost a bit of size since going pure pling

435 beginning of march. i never do maxes during my workout. i only did it that one time b/c it was a powermeet and i just wanted to see where i was.

PurEvl but not in a vanity way. I didnt think dez was trying to be a pl'er? Noobs hammering big weight for 1 rep maxes is nothing more then a recipe for injury. negative, not going the pl'er way....

Good job. I don't do 1RM's anymore, just rep a bunch at 225, but my previous max was 405.

I think im going to try that 20 rep squat routine

more than you, less than chris

335. but i was about 160 at the time. too heavy for 148 & too light for 165. heh.

deznutz negative, not going the pl'er way.... exactly, he's saying quit risking injury with the 1rm crap

Ed Goan never 1RM'd in the gym btw. His totals were something like 2200lbs which was a record in his class that stood for 17 years

4.7.05 1rm - Squat 315lbs

Finally broke into the 100's with dumbbells

Finally broke into the 100's with dumbbells

Repped 100 3x on flat bench today, I was happy. I broke 90's 3 weeks ago and, on the first attempt, dropped one of the 90lb dumbbells out of my left hand (elbow couldn't take it), picked them up again and repped 4.



I've found it's easier for my elbows to have the weight laying on my chest as I lay down and then use solely my arms to spread out. Before, I was kicking the db's off my thighs as I was laying down and I think the force of slowing the weight down to counter gravity while getting set up was what was fucking with my elbows.



I can shrug 100's

Mystery Guest I can shrug 100's Highest I've gone on shrugs is 90's and I'm good for 5

Are we talking one arm curls or dumbell benching? edit* my guess is benching

7th Ninjai Repped 1000 30x on flat bench today, I was happy. I broke 900's 3 weeks ago and, on the first attempt, dropped one of the 900lb dumbbells out of my left hand (elbow couldn't take it, it snapped, bending backwards, so I took the other dumbell and smashed it back into place), picked them up again and repped 40. Now that's animal intensity, that's animal pride. fixed.

I usually do 70s for incline press after I do BB flat

Opi Are we talking one arm curls or dumbell benching? edit* my guess is benching Benching. One arms curls, I can only do 47.5 on the last set

ralyks fixed. Post more

ChosenGSR I usually do 70s for incline press after I do BB flat I stopped doing barbell indefinitely. My numbers (stopped a ~month or so ago) were 225lbs 5x, 265max on flat. When I first started flat db several months ago, I had trouble with anything beyond 75lbs but I seem to be improving faster as I am focused on it now. My incline is still lacking, I can only get 85 4x on the last set. I tried flat BB last week to see if I had lost strength there, I had trouble pushing 205 6x

7th Ninjai Highest I've gone on shrugs is 90's and I'm good for 5

NoXeN I need to grow some traps

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7th Ninjai Benching. One arms curls, I can only do 47.5 on the last set wow... Im using 40 for each arm... I dont feel so shitty anymore

props to that man. too bad my gym doesnt go higher than 100s on DBs, gotta use the bar.

ryazbeck props to that man. too bad my gym doesnt go higher than 100s on DBs, gotta use the bar. Thanks man Mine doesn't either - I guess I'm just going to have to work on increasing reps. I'll be in a new gym this summer, so I guess that will be one of the requirements of wherever I end up.

I finally got the 130's up, maybe by the end of the summer I can have the 150's up!

~stangzorized~ I finally got the 130's up, maybe by the end of the summer I can have the 150's up! 150's What does your gym go up to?

7th Ninjai 150's What does your gym go up to? 150's

in similar news, I broke up in the 100's for incline. about a week ago I jumped up to the 100's on flat, now I do 10x 95, 10x100, 8-10x 100 on flat I think I've almost outgrown the gym at the university.

ManinCamo in similar news, I broke up in the 100's for incline. about a week ago I jumped up to the 100's on flat, now I do 10x 95, 10x100, 8-10x 100 on flat I think I've almost outgrown the gym at the university. I've never tried 100's on incline, but I've done 90's for 6 before. My flat is so much stronger for some reason.

ManinCamo in similar news, I broke up in the 100's for incline. about a week ago I jumped up to the 100's on flat, now I do 10x 95, 10x100, 8-10x 100 on flat I think I've almost outgrown the gym at the university. I started my chest routine with flat this morning: 60x15, 70x12, 80x8, 90x6, and 100x3 I moved to incline db and went 65x10, 75x8, 85x4 I would love to be at 100's for incline, nice work

I usually hold them on the inside of the DB (hands as close as they can be), put the DBs on my knees and roll back so that they are already up in the air.. keep everything as tight as I can and it usually works out fine from there...

Finally broke into the 100's with dumbbells

Fast food diet?

Fast food diet?

I usually eat 1-2 meals per day and usually unhealthy(burgers etc). What are some ok places for a picky eater to try and change up my mentality.

The grocery store. 'Nuff Said.

Honestly, if you want a healthy place to eat and you're picky (I'm assuming you're wanting to lose weight) you have no other choice than to make a life change and start learning how to cook and eat healthy.

subway?

walmart, they sell a good size rotisseri wow i suck at spelling chicken for $3.99

subway, jambajuice

Subway is terrible. Whats up 3,500mg of sodium per sub.

Phlab Subway is terrible. Whats up 3,500mg of sodium per sub. that's what deli meat does for you

salt isnt bad for you, never has been, i eat so much god damn salt its insane, i have my whole life, i love it and its never hurt me.

christophers whats wrong with some sodium, its actually beneficial to athletes/bb'rs pre contest diet guru scot abel suggested 2g per liter of water consumed daily it strongly varies by person. If you were to eat a couple of those subs a day that would add up quick, + all the sodium from the other BS. Not everyone on here the lifts is an athlete. Some might lift and sit in a office all day, therefore not needing the surplus of sodium

ryazbeck salt isnt bad for you, never has been, i eat so much god damn salt its insane, i have my whole life, i love it and its never hurt me. victim #1 of hypertension

I know there are benefits of it, I've always put around 500mg in my PWO shake.. but too much, like anything - is not a good thing

I'd love to know how it doesn't create hypertension, because there are many studies out there that would definately say otherwise

looking.......!

I don't have any reputable places to search. I searched yahoo for some links, there's tons of newspaper articles and shit, but no studies to back it. For the average person though, that much sodium is entirely too much. Maybe just because I'm a little bias because hypertension is quite common in my family.. I'm actually borderline to hypertension, 135-140 depending on the day and my sodium intake is fairly low

so basically it's saying if you're active consume lots of salt. If you're not, then don't

here is my bacon cheese burger body Ive been eating like crap for years, somehow my cholesterol was ok @ last check, but when Im not flexing after a full meal, the 8 pack is fading away

basically acclude, what you need to do is stop being lazy, go to the grocery store, buy tons of healthy food, and buy some of those cheap tupperware to take along and make meals, lots of them at night and bring food with you in a plastic sack. i do it everyday as well as many people on this board do.

The Acclude here is my bacon cheese burger body Ive been eating like crap for years, somehow my cholesterol was ok @ last check, but when Im not flexing after a full meal, the 8 pack is fading away 8 Pack? At most I can see a 2 Pack with two 1/2 packs... You need to bulk, just healthier.

Idyfohu 8 Pack? At most I can see a 2 Pack with two 1/2 packs... You need to bulk, just healthier. used to be

ha, i love how everyone is convinced salt will kill you. i've always been active. honestly the only problem salt has ever given me is a little diarrhea. thats because your kidneys flushes that shit right out.

The Acclude I usually eat 1-2 meals per day and usually unhealthy(burgers etc). What are some ok places for a picky eater to try and change up my mentality. i like McD's salads and yogurt parfaits

ryazbeck ha, i love how everyone is convinced salt will kill you. i've always been active. honestly the only problem salt has ever given me is a little diarrhea. thats because your kidneys flushes that shit right out. i dont like salt because it makes me retain water.

Idyfohu Honestly, if you want a healthy place to eat and you're picky (I'm assuming you're wanting to lose weight) you have no other choice than to make a life change and start learning how to cook and eat healthy. This is true. I bring a cooler to work with me every day with my food..you simply do better if you know exactly what's in your lunch.

subway is about the best of the bunch. i get a footlong turkey (double meat usually) on wheat and make 2 meals out of it. togos tuna sammich is also good

Fast food diet?

GNC Super Whey...

GNC Super Whey...

Is it any good? I am currently taking it. Its some blue berry flavor. It really tastes good. I just take it an hour after working out. It says I should be getting about 40g of protein. Should I take more throughout the day? Thanks for any info.

How much does it cost?

Draco How much does it cost? like $35 for 14 servings (the small tub) but i like the flavor so much, i might go back and buy the big tubs "Mega WheyT combines 40 grams of whey protein per serving with 5 grams of glutamine and 3 grams of branched chain amino acids BCAA. "



deznutz thanks for the input...

i picked some of it last month when GNC was having a big sale... I take it about an hour before my lift and about 30 minutes after... i got the multi berry flavor, or whatever... it was 26 bucks for the 5 pound jug... pretty much the only reason why i got it... i hate GNC

and how much do you way? you should be getting about 1.5-2g's of protein per pound of body weight

MaineSucks and how much do you way? you should be getting about 1.5-2g's of protein per pound of body weight i weigh about 180-185 lbs

illustrious like $35 for 14 servings (the small tub) but i like the flavor so much, i might go back and buy the big tubs " Bleh, way to much $.

Draco Bleh, way to much $. so whats a better alternative?

illustrious so whats a better alternative? optimum nutrition

aenz optimum nutrition dot only reason I bought the GNC whey is that it was on sale... and my parents gave me a GNC gift card for Christmas. I hate GNC. online store = your friend. best tasting protein IMO is ProLab's Advanced Whey... tastes like Chocolate cotton candy and only has 3g's of carbs, only 25g's per scoop, tho and its usually cheap... the Vitamin Shoppe by my house had 5lbs for 26 bucks... bodybuilding.com's store is selling a 2lb jug for 18 right now. do some research on the net, there are so many protein companies/flavors/options out there. trail and error

best times to take are in the morning, since your body is depleted, and after your workout. if the protein is an isolate it will release throughout the day and you can take your whole server in the morning, then one after your workout. if it isnt an isolate you might want to take the servings in a broken up manner. i think the average person can make use of about 25g of protein per hour.

MaineSucks dot only reason I bought the GNC whey is that it was on sale... and my parents gave me a GNC gift card for Christmas. I hate GNC. online store = your friend. best tasting protein IMO is ProLab's Advanced Whey... tastes like Chocolate cotton candy and only has 3g's of carbs, only 25g's per scoop, tho and its usually cheap... the Vitamin Shoppe by my house had 5lbs for 26 bucks... bodybuilding.com's store is selling a 2lb jug for 18 right now. do some research on the net, there are so many protein companies/flavors/options out there. trail and error does the pro lab's advanced whey mix well? this mega whey mixes so well with water, i dont have to add anything at all.

GNC Super Whey...