"DNP 2,4-dinitrophenol: A deadly way to lose weight"

"DNP 2,4-dinitrophenol: A deadly way to lose weight"

Anyone interested in me posting this article? I know DNP has been discussed here in the past. If there's interest, I'll post it when this month's JEMS shows up. That is, if no one chiefs it from my mailbox.

Sure, post it, but I think everyone here knows that DNP is the stupidest thing anyone could take. The risks far outweigh the rewards.

ACURA TL-S Sure, post it, but I think everyone here knows that DNP is the stupidest thing anyone could take. The risks far outweigh the rewards. i'll take two

god of smog i'll take two Ok, so there are the select few like pokesteve that might not be the brightest bulbs in the box.

post it up, i know its crazy shit ut i always enjoy reading and learning more about al drugs/chemicals etc

ill take 400mgs with a dash of caffiene plz!

I've read about a lot of people over on AM who take it and don't have any trouble. That being said, I wouldn't touch that shit with an 11ty billion foot pole.

i want the article.

btw.. has anyone here actually used this stuff before? im not wondering for personal use... but drugs/chemicals fascinate me and i woudl like to learn more

GilgaMesH I've read about a lot of people over on AM who take it and don't have any trouble. That being said, I wouldn't touch that shit with an 11ty billion foot pole. you'll find most of those people on am are like pokesteve, clueless and wanting quick results. (I said most, there are a few exceptions, but most are fucking retards)

DNP is an uncoupling protein that dissipates the proton gradient generated by your cells. thus all that ATP that would have been made through ATP synthetase is wasted as heat.

"DNP 2,4-dinitrophenol: A deadly way to lose weight"

Does weight lifting promote new muscle fiber to grow?

Does weight lifting promote new muscle fiber to grow?

Or does it just make the ones you already have bigger?

Blue=Gay Or does it just make the ones you already have bigger? Muscle is torn and replaced.

Ilyusha Muscle is torn and replaced. I know but does weight lifting promote new(more) muscle fibers to grow.

yes new muslce is formed!

there is always muscle there. is there wasnt, you would be a bone with skin on it. It would also be impossible to move your arm.

Toyota Kawasaki alright.. say youre so weak that you have no bicep muscle at all.. if you lift weights how could muscle tear and repair if there isnt any.. Holy fuck..

Ilyusha Holy fuck.. i'll see your and raise you a

Ilyusha Holy fuck.. even Terri Schiavo had muscles.

Toyota Kawasaki alright.. say youre so weak that you have no bicep muscle at all.. if you lift weights how could muscle tear and repair if there isnt any.. I hope you are kidding

Toyota Kawasaki alright.. say youre so weak that you have no bicep muscle at all.. if you lift weights how could muscle tear and repair if there isnt any.. Yes. There could be a situation where there was absolutely NO muscle in the bicep......

well im pretty sure you dont actually create new muscle fiber, only enlarge what you currently have.

Grouch well im pretty sure you dont actually create new muscle fiber, only enlarge what you currently have. Which could mean that new muscle fibers are growing.

Ilyusha Which could mean that new muscle fibers are growing. That would go against the whole 'new' part. If that is true.

Blue=Gay Or does it just make the ones you already have bigger? Some fibres may split

Toyota Kawasaki alright.. say youre so weak that you have no bicep muscle at all.. if you lift weights how could muscle tear and repair if there isnt any.. but is 20 like 30.....

it takes huge loads of stress to cause new muscle fibers to grow, or drugs (gh, slin)

SteveO it takes huge loads of stress to cause new muscle fibers to grow, or drugs (gh, slin) Drugs wont make new muscle fibres grow It is emerging research that under the right load and conditions muscle fibres MAY MAY MAY split, i.e its possible but you wont really see it happen much

Grouch well im pretty sure you dont actually create new muscle fiber, only enlarge what you currently have. you don't create new muscle cells.

edd91 Drugs wont make new muscle fibres grow It is emerging research that under the right load and conditions muscle fibres MAY MAY MAY split, i.e its possible but you wont really see it happen much yes, they will

SteveO yes, they will Literature?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vm15.htm Muscle Fiber Hypertrophy To begin, I'd like to cover the two main ways for an individual to increase overall muscle size. The first, muscle fiber hypertrophy, refers to the increase in the diameter of the individual muscle cells. The larger the cells, the larger the overall muscle, it's that simple. Muscle fiber hypertrophy = Big muscle fibers. Muscle Fiber Hyperplasia The second, muscle fiber hyperplasia, refers to the splitting of muscle fibers in the interest of creating new fibers. Obviously this would be of interest to anyone pursuing size or strength due to the fact that and if an individual has more fibers, their overall size potential is greater. Therefore when looking at hyperplasia, Muscle fiber hyperplasia + Muscle fiber hypertrophy = Many big muscle fibers. Ahh, the elusive double dose of size! At this point, I know that you're all supercharged to learn how to both make more fibers and to make them bigger, but I'm going to have to put the breaks on and be the bearer of bad news. The problem with hyperplasia is that no one really knows exactly how to promote it. Once we are born, some experts believe, muscle fiber number remains fixed for our lifetime. Therefore under normal circumstances muscle fiber hyperplasia seems nearly impossible. Interestingly, though, experts have begun to speculate that under abnormal circumstances, hyperplasia can contribute to overall muscle growth. For starters, recreational or even moderately intense weight training will probably NOT do it. Unfortunately there has not even been any evidence that very intense weight training will promote hyperplasia. One proposed link to hyperplasia, though is anabolic steroid use. A recent article in the American College of Sports Medicine's Medicine and Science in Sport and Exercise found evidence for muscle fiber hyperplasia in anabolic steroid using powerlifters(1). This however, is pretty much the first evidence of a mechanism for hyperplasia in humans. [Editor's note: there is fairly long-standing evidence that hyperplasia does occur in (of all things) weight trained cats.] The bottom line is that unless we are ready to boatload anabolic steroids into our systems, neither you nor I are going to be enjoying the benefits of muscle fiber hyperplasia any time soon. At least not over a period of less than 5-10 years (and even then it would be modest). So what about hypertrophy? Well that, my friends, is a promising reality.

Toyota Kawasaki alright.. say youre so weak that you have no bicep muscle at all.. if you lift weights how could muscle tear and repair if there isnt any.. seriously?

the gist is under nearly all circumstances, muscle fibers get bigger. You do not create more of them.

evi1eddie [color=black]http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/vm15.htm Can you post the references too please

Toyota Kawasaki alright.. say youre so weak that you have no bicep muscle at all.. if you lift weights how could muscle tear and repair if there isnt any.. April fools?

Does weight lifting promote new muscle fiber to grow?

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Can i take nitro tech and Thermo gain all in the same day or will that be 2 much? i have one glass of nitro teck in the morning then one after i work out and then iam just going to to take 1 thermo gain befor i work out? just wondering thx.

take those suppliments and throw them out the window and never buy celltech again.

Take one English lesson and call me in the morning.

pokesteve he already threw his money out the window, might as well keep the supplements... Could just do it out of spite btw never make your subject a question mark again.

You should follow the lee priest diet posted in the magazines meal, nitro tech, nitro tech, meal, nitro tech, meal, nitro tech, nitro tech, sleep

Jeff Coleman You should follow the lee priest diet posted in the magazines meal, nitro tech, gram of test, nitro tech, meal, nitro tech, 3000iu of gh, meal, nitro tech, nitro tech, 3000iu il5, sleep fixed

Peal fixed

lol well thx but i got them for free... so i was just wondering about... and i forgot this a a english class. iam shure pretty much everyone understood me, but thx n ways

bml lol well thx but i got them for free... so i was just wondering about... and i forgot this a a english class. iam shure pretty much everyone understood me, but thx n ways hardly

Peal fixed huh? i thought Lee Priest was natural? Thats what the artical said

be careful with 2 many supplements u can mess up ur livers

Jeff Coleman huh? i thought Lee Priest was natural? Thats what the artical said ronnie is too, drugs are unsafe

Ceaze be careful with 2 many supplements u can mess up ur livers

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Tell me about 'starvation mode' or metabolic slowdown

Tell me about 'starvation mode' or metabolic slowdown

I always read about this 'starvation mode' we go into if we starve ourselves or if our caloric deficit is too high. How exactly does this metabolic slow down occur? If you go 6 hours hungry say during the day would you go into this mode, or does it take a few days of extreme caloric deficit or even a few weeks? I've always wondered about it because when I'm dieting/cutting I don't want to go into it if I could be eating MORE and keeping my metabolism up for better gains. So any detail/ non-technical sources would be great.

starvation mode comes on from various hormone levels dropping - leptin, etc if you go low enough, your body starts shutting down "un-needed" functions, like your reproductive and immune system, since it is trying to conserve as much energy as possible to sustain you till you find food again. metabolic suppression is limited to about 30% of normal.

shastaisforwinners starvation mode comes on from various hormone levels dropping - leptin, etc if you go low enough, your body starts shutting down "un-needed" functions, like your reproductive and immune system, since it is trying to conserve as much energy as possible to sustain you till you find food again. metabolic suppression is limited to about 30% of normal. Ok, and how long does it take to onset at each level of caloric deficit? For instance does it take longer to set in if you have a caloric deficit of 700 vs 1500? How long does it take to set in generally? The metabolic slowdown.

shastaisforwinners your body starts shutting down "un-needed" functions, like your reproductive oh fawk I'd never mess with that

there is a chapter about this in the Rapid Fat Loss Handbook

QBoost Controllers Ok, and how long does it take to onset at each level of caloric deficit? For instance does it take longer to set in if you have a caloric deficit of 700 vs 1500? How long does it take to set in generally? The metabolic slowdown. varies depending on a lot of factors... how sensitive you are to leptin, whether you are using drugs (EC, bromo, etc), whether you were in a caloric deficit prior to this diet, the list goes on. Generally, the more severe the deficit, the more metabolism will slow. Generally takes your body a few days to adapt, even in severe deficits. Leptin levels will generall fall within 3 - 4 days, and takes a solid 2 days (or more) to raise it. That's the idea behind diet breaks and/or refeeds. edit: This is a vary simplified generalization of what happens, btw

Ceaze there is a chapter about this in the Rapid Fat Loss Handbook yeah, read the Rapid Fat Loss Handbook and the Ulitmate Diet 2.0. Both explain this stuff in good detail, but in an easy to understand way. Recommended reading for anyone that plans on dieting.

Any more info I dont have this book...

QBoost Controllers Any more info I dont have this book... www.bodyrecomposition.org Good articles, good forum, just don't fuck around on the forum they're quick on the draw :P.

superbri007 in the age of us having ample amounts of food, ther eis no reason to do this. Cavemens bodies did this, just out of nature when they would go on long periods of starving before they caught food. of course there is no reason for our bodies to do this anymore (well, maybe in Etheopia and whatnot), but physiological adaptations will take thousands, if not millions, of years before 'starvation mode' isn't an issue anymore. Of course the human race will probably be extinct by then, but stil...

mmmmmm.....sushi refeed tonight. Yummy.

Elfling www.bodyrecomposition.org Good articles, good forum, just don't fuck around on the forum they're quick on the draw :P. http://www.bodyrecomposition.com

edmang http://www.bodyrecomposition.com Yeah..or that one..heh. Thanks for the correction :P

i thought it had more to do with eating just one or two big meals a day than with a caloric deficit.

dank i thought it had more to do with eating just one or two big meals a day than with a caloric deficit. no

Flexible dieting, Fat Loss book, UD 2.0 all have this info.

ACURA TL-S mmmmmm.....sushi refeed tonight. Yummy. 40 pieces for me last time. Felt good Couldn't eat the fatty pieces though.

shastaisforwinners no so your metabolism would be the same eating 1 2000 calorie meal per day vs. 5 400 calorie meals?

dank so your metabolism would be the same if you ate 1 2000 calorie meal per day and 5 400 calorie meals? its about the same if you eat 3 versus 6.

AznRyda its about the same if you eat 3 versus 6. so why eat 6 meals?

Individual reasons. People can't eat big meals. People feel better eating tons of small meals throughout the day. People are on a calorie deficit so having 6 tiny ass meals is not satisfying, etc etc. People worry way too much about minor stuff.

dank so why eat 6 meals? if you are dieting it helps to keep you full all day and not have cravings

gsteclipse97 if you are dieting it helps to keep you full all day and not have cravings I guess. I was hungry yesterday, and I ate a small 200 calorie meal and it was nothing. if anything, it made me more hungry.

whatever, any given question on this forum gets a random different answer each time.

Tell me about 'starvation mode' or metabolic slowdown

Going to the doctor...

Going to the doctor...

This was the most appropriate forum to post this in, so here goes... Haven't been to the doctor ever since I was a little kid (28 now). Just got hooked up with health insurance, so I set up an appointment next week to get a routine physical/checkup. I really have no symptoms that would indicate any problems, except for maybe constant allergies/nasal congestion/sinus problems. What would you guys suggest I ask the doctor or what tests should I have done? blood analysis?

350GT This was the most appropriate forum to post this in, so here goes... Haven't been to the doctor ever since I was a little kid (28 now). Just got hooked up with health insurance, so I set up an appointment next week to get a routine physical/checkup. I really have no symptoms that would indicate any problems, except for maybe constant allergies/nasal congestion/sinus problems. What would you guys suggest I ask the doctor or what tests should I have done? blood analysis? cholesterol test, diabetes test(blood sugar), STDs, HIV, lung capacity, heart rate/condition, etc.

Let him know of any recurring injuries, abnormalities or physical problems. He'll probably ask about sleeping habbits, eating habbits, stress, exercise, drugs/meds, etc.

if you havent been since you were a child, then i would suggest EVERYTHING

yeah thanks guys...I guess I should just let the doc do his job first. I just want to make sure I get everything done that should be done.

why are you asking a couple dumb broly's what the doctor should do? ask the doctor what he thinks you should get done. heck, he's the one that went to med school.

oh, and good luck. i hope nothing's wrong with ya.

Going to the doctor...

Pretty sure this is what a pro bb'er looks like at 19

Pretty sure this is what a pro bb'er looks like at 19

I grabbed this off another board, hes only 19 and hes 8 weeks out from a show 5'10 215. Sick sick genetics.

Stupid new attachment thing.

i need more wheaties.

not everyone is has a subscription. NEW PICS, although I think i've seen it

christophers ya i'm no expert but i'd say give him 5-10 years + all the drugs he wants and he'd be at pro level haha he works at UPS too, oh sweet irony!

SteveO not everyone is has a subscription. NEW PICS, although I think i've seen it

how bout that for 19 years old?

alright alright, let me try somethin here

SteveO how bout that for 19 years old? I think he looks much thicker since those pics were taken

Mass I think he looks much thicker since those pics were taken eh? (I think) this is a different guy. IF I could only see those pics!

Wow.

Ilyusha Wow. rehost pics, new server!

damn....how tall is he? when the fuck did he start bbing? if you start too young, wouldnt it slow down your growing?

SteveO eh? (I think) this is a different guy. IF I could only see those pics! haha, its the same guy. Ya know subscriptions arent that expensive

Mass haha, its the same guy. Ya know subscriptions arent that expensive i already work 2 jobs and goto school, don't need any more unneeded expenses.

THis depresses me.

Holy shit

Nick P Holy shit how did you see it?! SteveO, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: The page you are trying to access may require an active paid subscription. Click here for more details.

damn

jonno damn ... atleast tell me what board it's on

SteveO ... atleast tell me what board it's on http://legalstreetracing.org/bcc1.jpg http://legalstreetracing.org/bcc2.jpg http://legalstreetracing.org/bcc3.jpg there steve

holy snikes

SteveO how did you see it?! SteveO, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: The page you are trying to access may require an active paid subscription. Click here for more details. hes og

i needed some new material.. thanks

craziness

Pretty sure this is what a pro bb'er looks like at 19

I know this will sound stupid but...

I know this will sound stupid but...

How do you dead lift im going to start using that base routine that christophers wrote once my Creatine and Whey come in http://forums.offtopic.com/showthrea...t=base+routine I dont know how to dead lift though the only lifts we do at my school (or atleast that I know are) Push Press Squat Front Squat Military Press Bench Incline Bench Powerclean Hangclean Then we have alot of stuff to do curls and we have neck machines and leg press machines etc... but I dont know how to dead lift

http://www.bsu.edu/webapps/strengthl...s.asp?exid=164

gsteclipse97 http://www.bsu.edu/webapps/strengthl...s.asp?exid=164 thanks

http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1228847

Why not just take some juice like all of your fellow(guessing) Colleyville Heritage players? BTW. Jesuit= #1

DaWARW Why not just take some juice like all of your fellow(guessing) Colleyville Heritage players? BTW. Jesuit= #1 where are you from

DaWARW Why not just take some juice like all of your fellow(guessing) Colleyville Heritage players? BTW. Jesuit= #1 If only you knew some actual shit tahts going on here instead of believing all that shit the media throws out I bet you didnt know that the Kid whos Mom started all this mess he only played football as a freshmen so he never new our head Varsity Coach he might have seen him around but he pretty much barely fucking new his name (His main sport is also baseball so this is pretty stupid) The kid is now a junior and the mom is suing our coach for 1.5 mil because of all this shit Also every other fucking school around here and around Texas is on teh juice to I can guarantee taht Grapevine, Southlake, and Denton Ryan have players on roids and we all know that northwest and other school are on roids No one has the balls to use steroids anymore at our school coach has ban anything and everything from the locker room including yogurt and now there is talk of all this random testing and parents are now having there kids tested so im pretty sure we are roid free but there are always those kids that dont give a fuck Im also just saying whats going on im not trying to although it may look as if im trying to make it seem like nothing happens over here but it does and I hate it but I ahte it even more when people say shit like that And im just saying what I know im not really pissed because this shit will happen for the rest of time so dont think that im upset or anythingwith you personaly

I can vouch for froznfyre. I lived in North Dallas about 30 mins from the really rural towns of Dallas and steroids was rampant as fuck in that part of town. No one gave a fuck about it either you could get it SOOO easy.

Everyone is so fucking rich up here that they dont know what to do with all there money all of my friends are so fucking rich I dont even know it untill I end up their house for some reason. Everyone is loaded and their parents give them as much money as they want and they end up buying drugs with it The only way you can go to CHHS without being loaded is A- Live in parts of Uless (sp) B- Bought your house many many many many years ago before the prices doubled (this is the situation im in but our house is still a shack compared to everyone else)

I'm basically in the same boat as you. I'm from frisco and in the past like 8 years all this reallllly rich people moved in. I lived in the old part of frisco in a $100,000 house while all the new people moving in were buying houses atleast 250k and up to a few million. It got even more ridiculous as you went north of frisco. Fucking estates and shit out there... Deion Sanders had over 20 acres and a got damn mansion.

you guys near Odessa? i just read friday night lights

jonno you guys near Odessa? i just read friday night lights No, but Southlake Carrol is in our district I know you know who they are Also Denton Ryan you might of heard of or seen them on TV playing Carrol We have 2 giants in our district

creatine AND protien? you gonn be hyooooge bro. just make sure youre eating enough calories, thats what really puts that peak in your biceps

vokuro creatine AND protien? you gonn be hyooooge bro. just make sure youre eating enough calories, thats what really puts that peak in your biceps wtf

I know this will sound stupid but...

Best Ephedra substitute on the market?

Best Ephedra substitute on the market?

I'm just curious if any products on the market have matched what Ephedra did. I highly doubt it, but what's the best thing out there now the Ephedra has been banned

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=50

looks like you might not have to settle for a subsititute as a result of this case:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7504443

tofu http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=50 that's for asthma and stuff Isn't ephedra for weight loss only. That wouldn't achive any of that, would it?

same stuff for both

the active ingredient in ephedra = ephedrine all the good stuff, none of the bullshit

Hark that's for asthma and stuff Isn't ephedra for weight loss only. That wouldn't achive any of that, would it? you're joking right?

shastaisforwinners you're joking right? no i'm really not. I don't know jack shit about supplements. Will taking that "asthma" supplement have the same affect of the same products that were originally on the market a few years ago?

Hark no i'm really not. I don't know jack shit about supplements. Will taking that "asthma" supplement have the same affect of the same products that were originally on the market a few years ago? read your own thread you nitwit.

dank read your own thread you nitwit.

Yes it will achieve weight loss. In fact Ephedrine HCL > Ephedra

Hark ephedrine hcl = best ephedra substitute on the market do an archive search for stacking/dosing guidelines

Hark no i'm really not. I don't know jack shit about supplements. Will taking that "asthma" supplement have the same affect of the same products that were originally on the market a few years ago? Im pretty sure you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about and are asking about ephedra/ephedrine because you treat it like a magic pill and have a complete lack of willpower.

Is ephedra really banned?? Cause when I was in walmart about a month ago I read the Trim Spa box and sure enough it said ephedrine wheich is the same as ephedra.

It probably had pseudoephedrine. Different stuff. Incidently ephedra is unbanned now I think I saw.

synephrine

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...phedra_suit_19 Utah Judge Strikes Down Ephedra Ban Fri Apr 15, 8:44 PM ET Health - AP By MARK THIESSEN, Associated Press Writer SALT LAKE CITY - A federal judge has struck down the FDA ban on supplements containing ephedra, a weight-loss aid linked to dozens of deaths, but it's too early to tell whether the product will be back in stores anytime soon. The judge Thursday ruled in favor of a Utah supplement company that challenged the Food and Drug Administration's year-old ban. Nutraceutical claimed that ephedra has been safely consumed for hundreds of years. Research shows that the amphetamine-like herb can speed heart rate and constrict blood vessels even in seemingly healthy people, but it is particularly risky for those with heart disease or high blood pressure or who engage in strenuous exercise. Among the deaths linked to the substance was that of Baltimore Orioles pitching prospect Steve Bechler, who collapsed and died during spring training two years ago. The judge's decision was seen by some anti-ephedra advocates as falling short of an outright reversal of the ban, though a Nutraceutical lawyer declared flatly, "the ban is gone." The company said it is too soon to say whether it will put the product back on shelves. Industry groups said supplements that included ephedra were once used by 12 million people. Judge Tena Campbell's order prevents the FDA from stopping Nutraceutical from selling its product and sent the case back to the FDA for a determination of what are safe and dangerous levels of ephedrine. The FDA was evaluating the ruling, but Health and Human Services spokesman William Pierce said the agency "made the right decision from the standpoint of science and our statutory authority. This is exactly when the dietary supplement law should apply." Health officials and Justice Department lawyers are looking at the ruling to determine the next step, Pierce said. Campbell agreed with Nutraceutical that ephedra was wrongly being regulated by the FDA as a drug and not a food. She said a 1994 federal dietary supplement law places more restrictive rules on the FDA in determining whether to ban foods as opposed to drugs. The judge said the law requires the FDA to prove that a dietary supplement is harmful, rather than having the manufacturer prove it is safe, as is required with drugs. "The (FDA's) statement that a safe level cannot be determined is simply not sufficient to meet the government's burden," Campbell wrote. Nutraceutical President Bruce Hough said the lawsuit had little to do with ephedra and more to do with forcing the FDA to follow the rules Congress set down for it. "This is a great affirmation for the system, that the court goes back and says, 'This is Congress' intent,' and follow it," he said. Ephedra opponents said the language in the order applies only to a very specific, lower-dosage segment of the market. The ruling's final page prohibits the FDA from enforcing the ban on Nutraceutical's supplements containing 10 milligrams or less of ephedra. Ten milligrams per day was the dosage of Nutraceutical's products. "No one - not the FDA, the supplement industry, nor the public - has been satisfied by how ephedra has been regulated," said Sen. Orrin Hatch (news, bio, voting record), R-Utah, who helped write the 1994 law that also deregulated the supplement industry. "Millions of people have used the product with satisfaction, but there is no doubt the product has had some serious problems," he said. Illinois Democratic U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin, a frequent ephedra critic who worked for the ban, said the ruling underlined the need for "a mandatory and uniform system of reporting adverse health events that result from use of certain dietary supplements."

vXSevenXv Is ephedra really banned?? Cause when I was in walmart about a month ago I read the Trim Spa box and sure enough it said ephedrine wheich is the same as ephedra. Ephedrine HCL and ephedra are not the same thing.

GilgaMesH Yes it will achieve weight loss. In fact Ephedrine HCL > Ephedra .

Best Ephedra substitute on the market?

How much water should I be drinking everyday

How much water should I be drinking everyday

stupid question for you guys i guess but i would like to know

i would drink at least a gallon

.66 times your bodyweight (ounces) 5 clear pees a day (at least)

Socrates .66 times your bodyweight (ounces) 5 clear pees a day (at least) all i would be doing all day is drinking water!

drink drink! i love water but i hate having to pee all the time.

but i know i drink about 1 1/2 gal a day

nic379 all i would be doing all day is drinking water! No it really isn't as hard as you think. While you are at home at night, just keep sipping on some ice water, drink drink drink, but not too fast to where you will feel like you are getting really full (of water...). When I do it, I piss about once every 45-50 minutes. Fun to watch it clear out your system .

AmCo drink drink! i love water but i hate having to pee all the time. sometimes i piss a couple times a hour, but i just love it so much

Socrates No it really isn't as hard as you think. While you are at home at night, just keep sipping on some ice water, drink drink drink, but not too fast to where you will feel like you are getting really full (of water...). When I do it, I piss about once every 45-50 minutes. Fun to watch it clear out your system . well i know that I of all people should be drinking alot of water because I get kidney infections all the time. i never drank alot of water when i was younger..just juice and koolaid and such. i had major kidney surgery when i was 3..so why my mom didnt make me drink gallons of water is beyond me...but o well. so now when i drink alot of water..it makes me nauseated. is that weird? i'm up to about 60-80 ounces of water a day...which is much better than the 20 i was getting

A gallon.

drink lots of water every meal, depending on your activity level and shit will vary. I take 32oz a meal @ 9 meals a day

5 clear urinations a day at min, 2 of them post workout

i drink a lot my pee is clear

I drank 2 gallons in about 6 hours while at work yesterday just for fun. I peed 5 times an hour.

you guys know that you can drink TOO much water right? If you overhydrate yourself you can die I believe.

I know that I don't drink enough.. it's the last component of cutting that I am trying to wrangle.

64oz a day

nic379 you guys know that you can drink TOO much water right? If you overhydrate yourself you can die I believe. you need to drink ALOT of water to do that, torture/drugs is the only way i see it happening.

nic379 you guys know that you can drink TOO much water right? If you overhydrate yourself you can die I believe. yeah... but you hafta drink and undrinkable amount of water to overhydrate

I follow the "8 glasses minumum" rule. I keep my water bottle with me at all times (almost, i'm still a little forgetful). it makes it a ton easier to drink the water if it's right there all the time. GND taught me a neat trick- put a few drops of lemon juice in the water to give it a little flavor. I just drink refrigerated tap water so it helps a lot.

nic379 you guys know that you can drink TOO much water right? If you overhydrate yourself you can die I believe. true story had a breifing on that when i was in the army

, i'm going to go get a glass of it right now.

nic379 you guys know that you can drink TOO much water right? If you overhydrate yourself you can die I believe. The problem is in the mineral content. It is possible to flush out your system of valuable vitamins/minerals. One of the symptoms is a craving for more, believe it or not, water! The type of water we drink directly affects us. Dehydration can reduce athletic performance and lead to fatigue, and it is vital for those who are exercising to drink enough water. A general rule is to drink twice as much water as is necessary to quench thirst. Exercise also increases needs for electrolytes, sodium, chloride and potassium. Magnesium and calcium needs may also be greater. You said you feel nauseated when you drink water? Are you on any meds?

Elektra The problem is in the mineral content. It is possible to flush out your system of valuable vitamins/minerals. One of the symptoms is a craving for more, believe it or not, water! The type of water we drink directly affects us. Dehydration can reduce athletic performance and lead to fatigue, and it is vital for those who are exercising to drink enough water. A general rule is to drink twice as much water as is necessary to quench thirst. Exercise also increases needs for electrolytes, sodium, chloride and potassium. Magnesium and calcium needs may also be greater. You said you feel nauseated when you drink water? Are you on any meds? nope...no meds. I was on a decongestant a week ago...but it's been making me nauseated for years. I sucked it up though and this last 2 weeks, I've been drinking alot of water..and I love it now. It sucks that my tap water is kinda nasty, and i can't afford enough bottles...but I just keep making myself drink the tap water becaue it's better than none.

tize 5 clear pees and 1 wet shit i don't shit everyday. That's only normal for some people..not everyone. O wait..I'm a girl, I never shit

How much water should I be drinking everyday

Anyone who has ProHormones or access get in here

Anyone who has ProHormones or access get in here

I am a dumbass who tries to repeatedly buy illegal drugs on an online forum.

i'm in the process of mixing some up in my basement right now. its my first time cooking, and im not sure if i compensated for teh double batch correctly pm if you want some, i'm selling it by the gallon.

your kiding right?

how many of these threads are you gonna make

Jaccordan your kiding right? no he is dead serious.



you should beg for a transdermal test rather than prohormones anyway :P

Jaccordan your kiding right? $20/gal you'll be huge, i added a few special ingredients

im desperate guys.

i will sell you a 10g 4ad tgel for 200 dollars

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Are you cop?

1. Go online 2. Buy 10g test from overseas supplier 3. Mix in phlo gel 4. ??? 5. Profit?

sprite Are you cop? Nope.

sprite Are you cop? 'are you cop' 'yes' come on man....

Sgt. Ownage 'are you cop' 'yes' come on man.... nah, im pretty sure if you ask a cop outright, they have to tell you Dunno tho.

well now it's entrapment if he is a cop

How many fucking times are you going to do this shit? STOP. And cops don't have to tell you shit, I don't know how this dumbass rumor got started. http://www.snopes.com/risque/hookers/cop.htm

Anyone who has ProHormones or access get in here

Im starting to hate BB'ing cause of people like this

Im starting to hate BB'ing cause of people like this

I would fucking bitch slap these kids if I ever saw them..seriously http://www.fisiculturismo.com.br/for...ic.php?t=60591



Looks like the kid did an oil change right into his fucking arm. 10w-30 guns.

haha, i like the band aid over his bicep in that last picture

is that a fucking chop or synthol useage out of control?

he looks like a plastic sculpture that got really really hot and melted

that loosk rediculous

but the ladies are all over him!!!

Synthol much?

its all legal down there..

NoXeN its all legal down there.. Legal and smart are two different things.

Thats fucking ridiculous. I definitely wouldn't be going out and smiling if I looked like that.

NoXeN its all legal down there.. Synthol is legal here. Its a "massage oil"

some one translate

WTF?? Looks photoshopped.

It's probaly true. There is some guy at my gym. He's about 5'2 and has bigger arms than anyone I have seen at my gym or in real life but the odd thing is, the rest of him is normal sized. He has to have custom shirts made for a 5'2 torso and the arms of a 7'4, 400 pound Viking, his arms are beyond big.

NoXeN its all legal down there.. Maybe he meant all as in all type of drugs. Kind of a generalization thing ya know.........

hahahahahaha

Question: When people do that oil garbage does it make their biceps weak as fuck?

joed1228 It's probaly true. There is some guy at my gym. He's about 5'2 and has bigger arms than anyone I have seen at my gym or in real life but the odd thing is, the rest of him is normal sized. He has to have custom shirts made for a 5'2 torso and the arms of a 7'4, 400 pound Viking, his arms are beyond big. But does he have definition in his arms. You can tell the difference when someone is using synthol and when they just beach bodybuild.

christophers:tizeinthefuture:



Can you inject that shit in your dong?

cavefish Can you inject that shit in your dong? yes please do it and get back to us

I'll be the most popular guy in Brazil.

Im starting to hate BB'ing cause of people like this

If you wanna feel huge, go to a 3rd world country

If you wanna feel huge, go to a 3rd world country

LOL, I've been in Caye Caulker for 3 days now, and the whole island knows me as "the big guy". There's no gym here and the food blows. I get some crazy ass looks everytime I order. LOL, just checking in, I'm paying by the minute here so I prolly won't be around long.

welp I'm off to the pharmacy... if you fuckers had replied I might would have taken requests.

What are you getting at the "pharmacy"?

drunknmunky What are you getting at the "pharmacy"? my list looks something like this... 1. Test 2. test 3. oxycontins 4. vicodins 5. fuck 5 I've got everything I need.

Sounds like someone is going to have a clenched ass packed with balloons on his way through customs...

sprite Sounds like someone is going to have a clenched ass packed with balloons on his way through customs... Its really not too bad, my friend brought back a bottle of absinthe and about 200 cubans. Nice list.

test and dbawlz, GO!

sprite Sounds like someone is going to have a clenched ass packed with balloons on his way through customs...

trancezj my list looks something like this... 1. Test 2. test 3. oxycontins 4. vicodins 5. fuck 5 I've got everything I need.

i always told you that your body packing days would pay off

Trance's old job as a colombian drug mule finally paid off!

Do you take the ocy and vicodens? I would not picture any one who is into fitness and well being taking that. I know gear are drugs but some how it is different, I would consider taking gear but not opiates. Just be carefull oxy can be very addictive.

Hpower Do you take the ocy and vicodens? I would not picture any one who is into fitness and well being taking that. I know gear are drugs but some how it is different, I would consider taking gear but not opiates. Just be carefull oxy can be very addictive. My cousin got addicted to oxy and he had to go to rehab for like 3 months or something. That is some bad shit.

in for more test, pick me up a couple 10 mL vials (cyp or E) and I will pay well!

I was in france for 2 weeks, you don't have to go to a shit hole to feel huge...average guy was like 5'9 and 130

If you wanna feel huge, go to a 3rd world country