The harder I work out - the more hungry I am during the day

The harder I work out - the more hungry I am during the day

I was doing fine with a bowl of cereal and a glass of OJ in the morning and not eating until dinner time... but for the past few days I upped my workout to an extra hour of hard cardio and now i am voraciously hungry during lunch time A few minutes ago i was sitting at my desk, and i had the biggest craving for a salad or something green. Since i was running short on time, i settled for a subway sandwhich, but i havent eaten lunch for a while now. Is this normal or should i supress my desire to eat?

more hungry = hungrier

ryazbeck more hungry = hungrier yeah yeah... same difference

i dont think i've ever worked out early in the morning, but my friend does sometimes and he said hes really hungry all day. and your goals should determine whether or not you should be eating more or less. bulking, slimming?

ryazbeck i dont think i've ever worked out early in the morning, but my friend does sometimes and he said hes really hungry all day. i dont work out in the morning during the week, only during the weekend. But when i workout at night during the week - i work out hard. my goal is to have my shirt soaked in sweat and i have to actually ring it out like a soaked towel

ryazbeck i dont think i've ever worked out early in the morning, but my friend does sometimes and he said hes really hungry all day. and your goals should determine whether or not you should be eating more or less. bulking, slimming? slimming . I am trying to lower my bf%. I am doing pretty damn good too, just gotta stay on course and i dont want to derail it by giving in to hunger

Juggernaut I was doing fine with a bowl of cereal and a glass of OJ in the morning and not eating until dinner time... Is this normal or should i supress my desire to eat? How much do you weigh/how tall are you, what are your goals, etc? Starvation much? edit: damnit i took too long to respond

then if you're gonna eat that snack at lunch try to make it low cal. count your calories www.fitday.com and eat around 2000 cals, with working out and cardio you should lose no problem.

My questions still remain valid. How many calories are you taking in per day though? 1 bowl cereal and a glass of oj is like a couple hundred calories.

ryazbeck then if you're gonna eat that snack at lunch try to make it low cal. count your calories www.fitday.com and eat around 2000 cals, with working out and cardio you should lose no problem. i am doing calorie counting now actually. i am trying to do between 1300-1500 a day for intake

b-stevens My questions still remain valid. How many calories are you taking in per day though? 1 bowl cereal and a glass of oj is like a couple hundred calories. i have a bowl of special K cereal and a glass of OJ for breakfest. For dinner i usually have one of those healthy choice meals that is at a max 500 calories. Maybe some pineapple pieces of an apple when i get home from the gym. Plus more water than jebus to drink

b-stevens How much do you weigh/how tall are you, what are your goals, etc? Starvation much? edit: damnit i took too long to respond i dont know what i weigh now after 4 months of this crazy diet/workout plan i am on. I know for a fact i now can wear a 33 pant size and its loose as hell on me. Last i checked i was 6'0, 185lbs, but then again that was end of janurary

Juggernaut i dont know what i weigh now after 4 months of this crazy diet/workout plan i am on. I know for a fact i now can wear a 33 pant size and its loose as hell on me. Last i checked i was 6'0, 185lbs, but then again that was end of janurary What makes you want to slim down at that weight?

b-stevens What makes you want to slim down at that weight? soccer season. I play forward. The skinnier i am, the faster I get. PLUS - i want a 6 pack so bad

holy crap you need to eat more often!

damn son.. that doesnt even sound like 1000 calories

jonno damn son.. that doesnt even sound like 1000 calories

I just had 4 double cheeseburgers from Mcdonalds.

Girl_Next_Door holy crap you need to eat more often! I have a crappy metabolism .... if i eat it goes straight to my gut, and i really want a washboard stomach

jonno damn son.. that doesnt even sound like 1000 calories its between 1300-1500 a day. I burn probably 600-800 at the gym a night, so i have to intake something

Juggernaut I was doing fine with a bowl of cereal and a glass of OJ in the morning and not eating until dinner time... but for the past few days I upped my workout to an extra hour of hard cardio and now i am voraciously hungry during lunch time A few minutes ago i was sitting at my desk, and i had the biggest craving for a salad or something green. Since i was running short on time, i settled for a subway sandwhich, but i havent eaten lunch for a while now. Is this normal or should i supress my desire to eat? *suspicious* you're joking, right?

Elfling *suspicious* you're joking, right? no... why? edit: I wouldnt come looking for serious advice spouting off bullshit....

cereal and oj lightweight

sounds like you have a horrid diet

Ceaze sounds like you have a horrid diet how so? I am not usually hungry ?

The harder I work out - the more hungry I am during the day

Creatine + Clen

Creatine + Clen

During the ECY stack I had no concerns with [testing my rats with] CEE. Now that Ive moved [my rats] on to slightly more potent agents, I would rather not risk dehydration or the other assumed risks in the combo. Is is safe or should I hold out on [feeding my rats] the CEE till after the cycle? ib4flames.

i'm no pro, but dont creatine and clen do opposite things? i thought creatine helped retain water, and clen helped get rid of it?

not that this has to do with your question but i find this story of clen very alarming and interesting. Ack what a nightmare. 1 gram Clenbuterol was obtained, later it was measured and dissolved into water to make the proper amount ratio per ml. But looky here: Some clenbuterol, what seemed to be very little stayed on the tool which was used to move the clenbuterol from one container to another. Hey there (I thought in stuper), why dont I taste the remain and see what happens. (Can you think of something more ingeniues?--looking back, it was one of my most stupid and dangerous decisions of my life) Apparently an amount of approximately 5 - 8 miligram of clenbuterol was sublingually ingested, possibly more. (normal dose is at the microgram area), for those who dont know Clenbuterol is active at even 100 mcg. with the ~5000-8000 mcg that was ingested, some 50-80 times stronger the active dose, some unwanted effects might occur if you plan to live a healthy life, dont mistake where I have. T+30: Strange feeling, as if consciousness had changed, but not similiar to anything I ever felt. T+1h: Feeling somewhat better than normal (if only I would know what was ahead of me....) Is this clenbuterol i thought? T+2h: Heart rate is higher, but not alarming. T+3h: Eyes are open wide, and face is feeling stretched, something is building up, and fast. T+4h: Eyeballs seem to receive some greenish color besides the normal white... and quite amount of axienty had built up, dizzyness and nausea, but somewhat consciousness enhancement, certainly not a good time. T+5h: feeling quite ill, heart begins to speed up, and for the next 24 hours the heart rate stays at a steady alarming 125-135 beats per minute (WHILE LYING DOWN WITH HEAD ON PILLOW), i could hear my heart with my ear as the vains in my head and the entire body are all swallen up and beating, I can feel the blood pumping intensively, and I feel as I am ready to explode. My girlfriend urges me to get an ambulance, but I disagree, hoping its going to be fine and reassuring her i'm 'okayyyy.' My entire body was dancing to the beats of my heart; and it was the worst tune you could ever imagine. T+6h: From here on after for the next 18 hours, intense pressure in my head and limbs had built up, eyes got more wide open, and skin more stretched. T+12h: It feels as if my heart cant take it anymore as i feel it loosens in some fraile way, and begins to irregularly beat, which is extremely uncomfortable, and quite dangerous. T+13h: I get dehydrated rather easily, and my tempeature is 38 degrees celceus. T+15h: for the past hour the tempeature has risen +1 degree. I am now considering the ambulance theory (in my head), as I feel I cant take much more of this. T+16h: The pressure in the head is unbearable and keeps on increasing, the pain arises as if the skull pressures the brain and there is a psychological feeling as if brain fluid is frying the brain, from the temperature T+17h: A cold shower really helped ... ALOT. T+19h: Another shower helped. T+20h: I'm quite tired and exhusted, but in agonizing head pain fearing taking any sedatives since i dont know what interacts with this and how; i take 750mg Paracetamol. T+21h: Feeling a bit better, but still -- headache is anguishing, I am utterly exhusted and afraid to fall asleep, although possibly, i can. T+24h: Heart rate down to 120 per minute, and tempeature had decreased by two degrees the past two hours, a nice opportunity to get some sleep T+32h: Woke up.... (Thank God, I'm alive!) heart rate is still at a steady 120 beats per minute while lying down #!$#!$#!$!% T+42h: heart rate down to a steady 105 beats per minute t+70h: 65 beats per minute, lying down. For the following week, intense vain, skin, and eye pain was felt, besides the utter exhustion and the sharp pain in the center of the head. Thank God, For He saved me from my stupidity That only my faith kept me going, thougout this living nightmare. There were many side effects during the experience, of pseudohallucenogenic nature: closed and open eye visual effects, very hard stimulation; food was tasteless and meaningless, and would result in vomiting; nothing could be drank besides water, or heartburn would occur, and it did, from drinking Cola, alone. Increased sweating, and increased resperation, hard amphetamiine-like jitterness which lasted throughout the entire horryfing experience, highly-extremely increased metabolic rate, tempeature changes, general change in consciousness, ear popping, and some more things. Overall, This was my first experience with this pseudosteroidical substance, which i didnt take seriously, and i paid the price, and i'm lucky i'm alive to report it. Dont be stupid. If you cant measure something properly, and or not sure of its potency - DO NOT DO IT: as tempting or curiousing as it may be, you might not be as lucky as I was. What a nightmare Thank God its over. for your rats sake ;x

Dunken not that this has to do with your question but i find this story of clen very alarming and interesting. for your rats sake ;x wow i bet your buddy was ripped after that

My rats take it in 20mcg tab form. Not much risk of overdose there. They are at 80mcg today. While in the most general sense they would appear to have opposing impacts, but on a cellular level they have little to do with eachother. My rats are drinking a 1.5-2 gallons of water per day so I think most of the risk is mitigated, but I want to be sure.

IMHO i think that you wont look as good as if you did creatine for like 4 weeks and then ran your clen because w/ clen you are trying to lose bf and look shredded and depending on how you respond to creatine you might have water retention leaving you slightly bloated. cliffsne makes you bigger, the other makes you smaller, so run the big then the small

supposedly that is the advantage of CEE, it eliminates the hydrogen thereby eliminating the water retention. The use would be to retain as much muscle while maintaining a caloric deficit stacked with a potent metabolic enhancer.

iwishiwascool supposedly that is the advantage of CEE, it eliminates the hydrogen thereby eliminating the water retention. The use would be to retain as much muscle while maintaining a caloric deficit stacked with a potent metabolic enhancer. huh i havent done the research on CEE (haha but bought it anyway) well then i guess go for it?

Dunken not that this has to do with your question but i find this story of clen very alarming and interesting. for your rats sake ;x yea that guy was a dope i read that post on another board from him

gsteclipse97 yea that guy was a dope i read that post on another board from him yeah, he admits being an idiot, which i credit him for. but to me, just making that little of a mistake such as, mis measuring, etc and getting thoes sides? its just not worth it to fuck around with in my opinion.

the caffeine is what dehydrates you, not the ephedrine or clen

Dunken yeah, he admits being an idiot, which i credit him for. but to me, just making that little of a mistake such as, mis measuring, etc and getting thoes sides? its just not worth it to fuck around with in my opinion. if you buy the liquid pre diluted instead of makin it yourself then you should have nothing to worry about unless you are a real dope who cant measure correctly. i dont see how anyone could screw it up if you took 10 seconds to measure it and double check

I bought 500g of CEE from bulknutrition today.

How much potassium and taurine are your rats taking?

AznRyda How much potassium and taurine are your rats taking? 5g taurine, just banannas for cramps when I feel them. When I can tell the rats feel them.

i need to supp with magnesium to get rid of the cramps

The first few days were crazy. It wasnt the big muscles... just the lil ones. Id be sitting still for a while and my entire back would cramp up. Or my hands or toes.... ect. I was fine today.

Creatine + Clen

How much water should I drink

How much water should I drink

I am 5'10 160 pounds how much should i drink?

Kokomo I am 5'10 160 pounds how much should i drink? as much as you feel the need to, atleast 1 gallon a day

search > you

i can do 2 gallons easy

I read somehwhere your supposed to get at least bodyweight x .66 in ounces.

REPOST! I know cause i asked like a week ago

ive been marking on my little foam cups wiht a pen every time i finish a glass. had 15 last night sitting at work

i once drank 12L of water in a 9 hour shift at work. the girls there thought it was disgusting i really just wanted to see how much i could drink in a day...

were you parked in teh bathroom pissing all day as well? lol

How much water should I drink

So in about two weeks...

So in about two weeks...

Even if you chalk 10 pounds up to water weight (first weigh in was at night, next one was early in the morning), I still lost 10 pounds to medically induced malnutrition! w00t!

So in about two weeks...

So in about two weeks...

Vitamin Question

Vitamin Question

Does anyone know how long I can expose vitamins to air before they start losing their potency? I travel alot and usually put my vitamins in those plastic vitamin things, but I'm afraid that by opening and handling the vitamins all those times, it will expose the vitamins to air for too long.

bump?

I don't think being exposed to air does anything, but sunlight does.

redking Does anyone know how long I can expose vitamins to air before they start losing their potency? I travel alot and usually put my vitamins in those plastic vitamin things, but I'm afraid that by opening and handling the vitamins all those times, it will expose the vitamins to air for too long. No different then opening up the bottle everyday to get a vitamin.

as long as you're not leaving them to sit out in the elements or something I don't see a problem with it.

Vitamin Question

F & N jews... passover is killing my energy

F & N jews... passover is killing my energy

Maybe I am not being creative, but not being able to eat starches and leavened foods is killing my energy levels. I need to get maltodextrin, which I assume is ok for the days of passover?!?! is it? Are any of you guys following the holiday properly? (Apparantly I cant even have my shakes with my meals cause of there contents!! Passover is killing my workouts )

I'm actually not keeping passover this year, but here are some good foods to eat for carbs: rice (if you're sephardic rice is ok) Whole wheat matzah (actually isn't bad. I think it tastes better than white) apples bananas potatoes ( i lived off baked potatoes last year) more apples Technically, malto is a corn product and corn products are a on passover Article about malto and passover http://www.ou.org/oupr/2004/coffeepass04.htm

maltodextrin is a starch

Ceaze maltodextrin is a starch I hate eating matzah, it just doesnt taste right with things like tuna and stuff. Since saturday I have been sooo low energy and have noticabley lost weight. Probably water mainly, but I am lethargic without my lean gainer shakes and my pastas and everything. Passover is going to make me go into keto

You're Jewish? I am not celebrating..

pre-law or pre-med?

Perplexed Stop being a jew BOOYAH!

lol, at first glance i read "F'n jews" and thought it was gonna be an anti-semetic rant.

kronik85 lol, at first glance i read "F'n jews" and thought it was gonna be an anti-semetic rant. same here.

Mass pre-law or pre-med?

Are oats ok?

Ilyusha You're Jewish? I am not celebrating.. :slovo: I never kept it even when I lived in Israel

hm i actually had some bacon with bread this morning.. im a bad jew

Ilyusha You're Jewish? I am not celebrating.. yep why no celebrate?

2000GT yep why no celebrate? I dunno.. I've been bad with the holidays lately. I went to an orthodox Jewish school for.. 8.. years.. .. so I had A LOT of time to celebrate and learn the Torah and such. I'll get back on the wagon in time for Yom Kippur.

Mass pre-law or pre-med? lol. I am a network/telecom admin not smart enough to be a doc.

Ilyusha I dunno.. I've been bad with the holidays lately. I went to an orthodox Jewish school for.. 8.. years.. .. so I had A LOT of time to celebrate and learn the Torah and such. I'll get back on the wagon in time for Yom Kippur. I hate doing the fast. this is almost more painfull though

2000GT I hate doing the fast. this is almost more painfull though Last year, I boned on Yom Kippur and had a not so good rest of the year. So this year, I'm fasting like a motherfucker.

Ilyusha Last year, I boned on Yom Kippur and had a not so good rest of the year. So this year, I'm fasting like a motherfucker. dont fuck with the holiest day of the year!

2000GT dont fuck with the holiest day of the year! Nevar again!@~

F & N jews... passover is killing my energy

Nolva Question....

Nolva Question....

My nolva caps are 50 MGS each, I should be taking 40 mgs first week, then 20mgs for 4 weeks after that..... Is 50mgs too much for all 5 weeks? Any negative side effects?

they are caps and not tabs right? no chance of split a cap?

IBnoxen

TheChosen My nolva caps are 50 MGS each, I should be taking 40 mgs first week, then 20mgs for 4 weeks after that..... Is 50mgs too much for all 5 weeks? Any negative side effects? Do they not give you instructions on the bottle they came in? If they're 50mg capsules, I would think you're supposed to take 50mg each time. I don't see why you would want to take the capsules apart anyways.

Peal they are caps and not tabs right? no chance of split a cap? I wish they were tabs, they are caps, if i split, shits gonna go all over

50 mgs will be fine. I know some people after a cycle will do 60mg-40-20, or even 80-60-40-20.

where do you buy novla? need a prescription?

Customnutritionwarehouse.com or ibenutrition.com I prefer CNW because they actually give you a measuring thingy, ibe gives you a dropper, which is a pain in the ass. Spend the extra money

I just ordered some Rebound XT ... I'll see how this stuff works out, good reviews on anabolic though

Nolva Question....

My breakfast *PICS* :noes:

My breakfast *PICS* :noes:

modeling that shit huh?

how many cals? doesnt look like much

that bulk nutrition shaker sucks mad dick

Crappy camera.

wheres the food?

please tell me that OJ and not raw eggs...

My breakfast *PICS* :noes:

No muscle pain the next day means I am not working out hard enough?

No muscle pain the next day means I am not working out hard enough?

Initially when starting back at the gym (after a month or 2), I would feel that really nice muscle pain. However after a week or 2 it would go away and never come back again as long as I routinely went to the gym...does this mean I am not working out hard enough? I want to feel that damn pain.

kingrukus does this mean I am not working out hard enough? No.

ok thanks

What Ceaze said :P Soreness after workouts isn't an adequate indicator that you had a good workout. As long as you're progressing- more weight, more reps, etc- you're doing fine.

if i dont workout hard enough i dont get sore, only goes for my chest, lats, quads and butt. i randomly get sore in my arms and shoulders

Are you taking any supplements? They can aid in loss of muscle fatigue. I really haven't felt any pain after a work out in a few years.

no supplements here. i think i get sore because i dont eat enough because im so poor.

Mike4831 Are you taking any supplements? They can aid in loss of muscle fatigue. I really haven't felt any pain after a work out in a few years. No, no suppliments other than taking Whey occasionally (which I am going to start taking everyday).

ryazbeck no supplements here. i think i get sore because i dont eat enough because im so poor.

kingrukus No, no suppliments other than taking Whey occasionally (which I am going to start taking everyday). Careful, I hear that stuffs toxic to your kidney. Make sure you've done atleast a year of research before starting on that crap.

ralyks Careful, I hear that stuffs toxic to your kidney. Make sure you've done atleast a year of research before starting on that crap.

ralyks Careful, I hear that stuffs toxic to your kidney. Make sure you've done atleast a year of research before starting on that crap. my kidneys *ACK* FAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lylemcd I would strongly argue that DOMS is a pretty worthless indicator of muscle damage. Just too much variance there and any researcher who used something so subjective would be doing a pretty bad job of it. Resercher: So, are you sore today? Subject: Yup, my hips feel like I'm a hooker who serviced the fleet last weekend. Researcher (makes mark on clipboard): Yup, he's got that thar muscle damage. Sorry, that's crap. Lyle .

ralyks Careful, I hear that stuffs toxic to your kidney. Make sure you've done atleast a year of research before starting on that crap. Are you serious

Whey protein is dangerous unless taken in VERY small doses.

No muscle pain the next day means I am not working out hard enough?

How do I permanently remove a hair?

How do I permanently remove a hair?

I wasn't sure exactly where to post this question but i figure this forum is the most appropriate where I may get serious replies. I basically have this one single hair growing on my right arm that is long. My arms are generally hairless, but i got this one hair that just keeps growing back. it is very unsightly. It is actually white colored hair (im asian) and it grows about one inch in length. Everytime i cut it or tear it out, it just grows back. It's ugly! Im afraid to cut it or pull it again cuz im afraid it might grow back thicker and thicker and become one of those nasty big thick hairs that can be seen a mile away. I seen on a TV infomercial before that there is this electronic device where you clamp over a piece of hair and you activate it to send a pulse and it supposedly sends an electronic pulse down to the root of hte hair and prevents it from growing back. So basically, my question is, how do i kill this fucker and prevent it from growing back?

just keep plucking it or shaving it. hair doesnt grow back thicker, it's a myth..that's not how your endocrine system works. just keep cutting it

Dht

superbri007 electrolysis, or laser sugery, i believe. But very very expensive. Save your hairs, I bet we'll have an Ice Age in our lifetimes hippy

I keep gettin some random hairs that grow what seems like a inch over night

Electrolysis/lasers. It's one hair, shouldn't be too expensive. See a dermatologist or even a plastic surgeon.

Burn yourself to kill your hair follicle and create forever ingrown hair?

mtnbike4522 I keep gettin some random hairs that grow what seems like a inch over night those monsters started popping up on my shoulders

just wax it/pluck it, you pussy.

~*Pogovina*~ just wax it/pluck it, you pussy. this isnt about the pain. i plucked it a few times and it just grows back. my entire arm is bare except for this one lone hair which makes me look like a freak. i want to remove it permanently.

is it that tought to just pluck it out every other week?

Phlab is it that tought to just pluck it out every other week? for the rest of my life, yes.

I believe scar tissue does not grow hairs, so you can just cut yourself. Just remember it's down the road, not across the street. Or you can just pass a razor over it everytime you take a shower, it can't be that much of an inconvenience. EDIT:If it's white, then it should not be that noticeable anyways.

How do I permanently remove a hair?

Need Help

Need Help

I just ran 2.4k and my muscles really hurt/sore what should i do?

Cramping sore or sore sore?

Hip Hippo Cramping sore or sore sore? Cramping

Try stretching your muscles. If it's really bad put some ice or heat on it.

Hip Hippo Try stretching your muscles. If it's really bad put some ice or heat on it. Thank you.

a banana

Need Help

Creatine Monohydrate VS CEE?

Creatine Monohydrate VS CEE?

Creatine Monohydrate VS CEE? Can anyone explain the difference and sum up the pro/cons of one vs the other? From here I have read the following so far.. 1. 10x more soluble in water than creatine monohydrate. Therefore, it will absorb from the intestines better, achieving higher blood levels faster and preventing the upset stomach that some people get from monohydrate. 2. It's much more stable, won't degrade into creatinine in the stomach. 3. You bloat with monohydrate and do not with CEE Pardon my lack of intellgence, but what does it look/feel like to bloat? Feels like you have eaten too much? Thanks

What else do you need to know, there are like 11ty billion threads on this topic in this forum alone.

CEE is better than mono because I haven't tried mono and am saying this based only on like 3 weeks of CEE usage and have no other clinical facts to prove this whatsoever. So order CEE today.

wasn't there just a study done showing that the products claiming to be CEE didn't really have much or even any CEE in them?

Grouch wasn't there just a study done showing that the products claiming to be CEE didn't really have much or even any CEE in them? Chris called BS on em.. there was a thread with another link in it proving otherwise or some shit.

Ilyusha Chris called BS on em.. there was a thread with another link in it proving otherwise or some shit. mike at 1fast said he was waiting a month to get back the purity results of the stuff he has in stock, so i'm waiting on that before i order it

CEE is mono that is esterfied. It make the creatine able to dissolve completely in water, making it better absorbed and effective at lower doses. Not many studies have been done on cee...but the results speak for themselves imo. I get mine from customnutritionwarehouse because they test every patch they get for purity, because there has been an issue with fake cee.

evi1eddie mike at 1fast said he was waiting a month to get back the purity results of the stuff he has in stock, so i'm waiting on that before i order it http://forum.avantlabs.com/index.php?showtopic=16726

Higher Power CEE was found to contain approximately 0% CEE

christophers really? considering the only place that has a standard for testing is the place mike goes to, how is it possible to get an accurate result? most labs have no clue what theyre doing wrt to CEE, mike has said this althouh it is quite possible it has none http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=416886 misplaced the 1

Creatine Monohydrate VS CEE?

Nike Run TO (Toronto) 10KM run

Nike Run TO (Toronto) 10KM run

Anyone participating in this? I signed up this morning, this will be my first time running anything longer than 5km. I started training for it yesterday based on the 5 week training program provided. It's $50 to sign up and you get 2 dri-fit shirts (one for training and one for the race) among other things. There's lots of festivities over on the island, so it seems like it would be pretty fun. The run is on May 29th, the website has more info... www.runto.com

Nike Run TO (Toronto) 10KM run

Nike Run TO (Toronto) 10KM run

Just picked up my True Protein order v. mini review

Just picked up my True Protein order v. mini review

Just up this 50lb puppy at the post office. It turned out to a beastly thing to carry. The corners give no grip at all as pulls away like cloth, so i ended up carrying it one hand under the box and one hand over to keep its position. It was the longest 1km walk in my life... i dont think my biceps survived So I opened up the box and am greeted with a face full of chocolate powder. I guess they forgot to close the cap as the empty bottle was in one corner and the cap in the other. They gave me a crap load of choclate (to clean up after) but I only got 50g each of the other flavours. I end up mixing the entire banana bottle with just 4lb of whey. I can smell the banana but no taste at all... tastes just like plain. It mixes very well as does all instanized protein. Also, the big bags of whey were closed with a plastic tie cord thing that I just pulled off by twisting. It's a miracle I didn't get a box full whey powder in my face too. I also picked up some chocolate powder from the bottom of the box (about 50g worth) and stuffed it in my mouth because i'm an idiot like that. Tasted chocolately I don't see how it can flavour more than 1lb of whey though Costco is selling 6lb of whey for $30... wish I gone for that



Time to email them those pics and get some sort of a refund

WHere the hell did you order that from? I'm thinking you just bought that from the back of a van..

yah, I get the 5lb from costco for like $21

i really dislike that company

Ill never order from that company just based off of this thread, thats the worst packing job i have ever seen.

I'd be pissed if I got an order like that.

superbri007 that shits ghetto the owner of the company IS called doggcrap

Seriously.. Email them those pics and bitch about their shitty packing, you'll definitely get some sort of compensation.

Mistich i really dislike that company any particular reason? I think a few other people had problem with getting broken stuff with their order too, but at least they respond to email and ship fairly quick. I got my order in ten days.

Phlab Seriously.. Email them those pics and bitch about their shitty packing, you'll definitely get some sort of compensation. I've already have... no responses yet though but i'll post results as it happens

KetchupKing any particular reason? I think a few other people had problem with getting broken stuff with their order too, but at least they respond to email and ship fairly quick. I got my order in ten days. For one, Both of the BSL orders that I have recieved were very bland, and just as expensive if not more than the real BSL back in the good ole days. next, it took them 3 days to ship out both of my orders which isnt what im looking for in a good company. vettedude had ordered something on here that ended up taking 1 month to be delivered to his house, he told me the customer service was horrible....most of the time he couldnt even reach someone to talk to and when he did they pretty much just said they'd ship it out ASAP. ASAP to them was 3 weeks. i dont mean to bash the company all together, but TP < * in my book

they are the only bulk protein store that ships from Canada... they only need to beat out retail stores that sell whey 5lb at a time. (And as of this week, they're aren't even beating them on price )

damn thats nasty. i placed a huge order from them around last november and got it within 4 days, no problems at all

Mistich For one, Both of the BSL orders that I have recieved were very bland, word.

holy fucking get a refund.

KetchupKing they are the only bulk protein store that ships from Canada... they only need to beat out retail stores that sell whey 5lb at a time. (And as of this week, they're aren't even beating them on price ) doesnt SND as well?

looks tasty



dmaestro holy fucking get a refund. that just sent me an email saying they'll send me another bottle of chocolate flavouring and an extra 5lb of their whey. i guess i'm easily pleased

I emailed them twice after placing an order. No response either time. The protein tasted bland and I ended up mixing muscle milk with it.

Just picked up my True Protein order v. mini review

Anyone use Lipovarin?

Anyone use Lipovarin?

I've read its better than trimspa....the only thing I ever had luck with was RFA-1 but that's not available.... can you get lipovarin at GNC?

nobody?

i get lipo 6 at gnc

Lipovarin is pretty good.

buy it online or from the vitamin shoppe

Anyone use Lipovarin?

is rollerblading beneficial at all?

is rollerblading beneficial at all?

well? whats it doing for me...any toning or fat burning?

Any physical activity is better than none Reults depend on if you are trying to speed skate around an ovel for 4 hours or just lazily douching around the park.

rollerblading is a hell of a workout

joy division Any physical activity is better than none Reults depend on if you are trying to speed skate around an ovel for 4 hours or just lazily douching around the park. about an hour of cruising around neighborhoods..going up some hills...going fast....very little lazy douching though

superbri007 no, but I heard that lollarblading is really good

yeees, it gives you nice tone man-glutes

will it burn any body fat, or do any overall toning? or just legs pretty much

it won't burn anything. it'll just give you an onion booty. no but seriously, if you do it with enough intensity, it could be a good cardio activity thats easy on the knees compared to jogging.

Rollerblading is horrible

great workout!

if you have to ask, then no

jackjohnson if you have to ask, then no well its definetely " a workout" since i sweat hard and can run out of breath when im skating hard. jw what it actually does for you....like if it tones or burns any fat.

could be decent cardio.. it all depends on your intensity

I used to be an agro skater. Id skate every day for 6 hours or so in the summer. My legs and abs were crazy Though I doubt youll be jumping onto any rails or crazy business like that.

Do you have to say TONE in every god damn post. NO, it will not TONE your muscle. You will lose weight, uncovering what muscle you may have underneth -- giving the appearence of TONAGE (lol?). It is good cardio though (good on the knees), depending on your entensity.

just go to a damn gym

sr20wop just go to a damn gym I can't stand doing cardio in a gym so I normally rollerblade 2-3 times per week during the summer. Yes it is one hell of a workout if you make it. Actually a girl I work with use to speedskate and her and I would go every weekend and not quit till someone gave up. Some days we would end up doing 20+ miles. If you really want some fun basically skate upright for a couple of minutes and then crouch and try and get as far of a kick as possible for a minute or so and as hard as you can. If you have a friend who bikes try and draft them. Did that with a buddy of mine who raced and I could barely breath after a couple of miles. What muscles you work depend on your stance very similiar to an efx machine. If you are low you are going to notice it more in the whole leg if you are upright more in the middle of your legs.

iwishiwascool I used to be an agro skater. Id skate every day for 6 hours or so in the summer. My legs and abs were crazy Though I doubt youll be jumping onto any rails or crazy business like that. Use to aggressive to and it was amazing how much you really had to stay constrictinged and were squeezing your abs. Especially on rail grinds.

Inline skating is my favorite cardio exercise. What muscles you work and how much you work them depends much on what kind of stance you use when skating and the intensity you skate at. Using proper speed skating form will work pretty much everything in your lower body and back. If you have paved recreation trails that you can just zone out in your skating form, that will be the best. What kind of skates are you using?

Davo Inline skating is my favorite cardio exercise. What muscles you work and how much you work them depends much on what kind of stance you use when skating and the intensity you skate at. Using proper speed skating form will work pretty much everything in your lower body and back. If you have paved recreation trails that you can just zone out in your skating form, that will be the best. What kind of skates are you using? my bauer hockey skates......thats all ive ever used since i was a kid.

I used to go through 2 pairs per season. The set that I ended with were the Razor Cults. They were nice.

Davo Inline skating is my favorite cardio exercise. What muscles you work and how much you work them depends much on what kind of stance you use when skating and the intensity you skate at. Using proper speed skating form will work pretty much everything in your lower body and back. If you have paved recreation trails that you can just zone out in your skating form, that will be the best. What kind of skates are you using? I started rollerblading 12 years ago it was a b-day present from my parents since I wanted something else to supplment my cycling. I basically have sticked with rollerblade brand the whole way. Right now I am on the Rollerblade Aero 2 got an awesome deal on them at a local sporting store that stopped carrying the rollerblade brand. The only problem I have is the boot is uncomfortable and almost makes my foot go numb but after a couple of miles almost like it breaks in and I don't have a problem. I use to have K2 and that was a nice boot. If I could take the Aero 2 skate and add the K2 boot it would have been perfect. What you got?

iwishiwascool I used to go through 2 pairs per season. The set that I ended with were the Razor Cults. They were nice. Even when i was doing agressive I used rollerblade old school with the hard plastic boot. First skate I ever owned. Had a couple sets of wheels and bearing that I would switch depending if I was doing x-training, aggressive, or even playing hockey. God I miss that skate but man it would get hot. Ton of armor on it. Tore through grindplates like it was nothing.

jshively What you got? I have the Rollerblade Lightning 09 2004 model, had them for about a year. They're a five-wheel skate, built for fitness/speed. The boot is amazing, and even after a long (15-20 mile) skate, I hardly feel like I had them on. The only downside to having skates with such a long frame is that you can't do too many 'fun' things, other than going 25-30mph. They just aren't that agile. Plus, you have to pay to play: when my bearings wore out, it cost over $100 to replace them.

You guys are making me miss rollerblading, about 10 years ago I skated just about everywhere

is rollerblading beneficial at all?

Does working legs increase test?

Does working legs increase test?

For example, if one were to only work upper body. Person B would work legs too, and his upper body would be bigger than Person A. Is this true? I've heard it does, but only a very miniscule (and insignificant) amount

oh and i'm looking for a reference to a study too if you hve one

heavy compound movements have been shown to release trace amounts of gh. Very minimal and probably has no effect

heavy amounts of stress on the body such as squats/deadlifts results in an androgen response. (my doc)

well i mean doesnt working out in general do that? so if you're only working out half your body, as opposed to all of your body, wouldnt you get better results from full body?

ryazbeck well i mean doesnt working out in general do that? so if you're only working out half your body, as opposed to all of your body, wouldnt you get better results from full body? i don't know, that's why I made this thread

just do the right thing. work out your legs.

Here is an article that I found about: http://customnutritionwarehouse.com/...articles_id=20

Does working legs increase test?

How to kick higher?

How to kick higher?

How does someone train their legs to kick much higher? I am assuming just stretching your legs out and practicing kicking would do it?

Thats one way to do it...alot of it has to do with your hips being too tight. For example if you can do the splits you'll have an easier time kicking high. Dynamic stretching helps a bit as well, but relaxed and other kinds of stretching are just as important.

All about the flexibility.

relaxed stretching first, then with tension. do both kinds of splits (side and middle). do stretch up kicks to loosen the hamstrings. practice your kicks about a million times. I dunno if this attatchment will work right, I just came back to the board, but this is me at about 19.

Maestro Nobones relaxed stretching first, then with tension. do both kinds of splits (side and middle). do stretch up kicks to loosen the hamstrings. practice your kicks about a million times. I dunno if this attatchment will work right, I just came back to the board, but this is me at about 19. That is really impressive. If I want to kick higher, should I do those stretches everyday? Or can I overexert them?

I dunno I developed the ability over about a year's time. Your body should tell you how much pushing yourself is OK. Don't let yourself get comfortable until you are at your desired amount of stretch, but let yourself reach that point gradually; don't force it. If you work for it, it'll come.

I have trained in several martial arts for quite sometime and I always found that easiest way to improve your kicking height is simply practice kicks, and stretch. Stretch not only your legs, but also your groin, hips, glutes, and sides of abs. A combination of both intensive stretches and a lot of kicking practice will get you there.

stretching is one thing, flexibility is another. So yeah, you've gotta be pretty flexible.

3 or 7

VinSVT 3 or 7

hes right. posts 3 and 7. practice and flexibility.

Socrates How does someone train their legs to kick much higher? I am assuming just stretching your legs out and practicing kicking would do it? are you in martial arts or sumpin(serious, not trying to be a dick). cuz if you wanna become an all around better fighter, there is a very slim chance that in a real world fight you will get the chance to kick someone in the face if thats what you are after. if you are lifting at the same time that can be deleterious to your flexability goals. ive lost about 20% of my flexability in the last few weeks

incubimmer deleterious ,., ohh, fancy word...i like that one

incubimmer are you in martial arts or sumpin(serious, not trying to be a dick). cuz if you wanna become an all around better fighter, there is a very slim chance that in a real world fight you will get the chance to kick someone in the face if thats what you are after. if you are lifting at the same time that can be deleterious to your flexability goals. ive lost about 20% of my flexability in the last few weeks Yeah, actually. I grew up wrestling with my older brother, then wrestled in high school a bit. Took some boxing lessons at a gym for a few months, but gave it up pretty quick. I joined up with a MMA training gym (Springfield Fight Club) a couple months back and have been into it ever since. Going to jail for fighting directly after turning 17 got old REAL fast, and I have always been pretty addicted to fighting sports. I'm going to work on getting my martial arts belts through the military (easy to do at the Reserve Center here), and was going to continue training at the MMA gym and hopefully get set up with some good fights. A few of the guys travel around and fight, so I think it will be good teaching. The reason I want to get better at kicking now is because my friends set me up fights with guys from other towns or other guys for $50 a fight, and I can't get over the adrenaline rush from the fight. My kicks are weak, and when I kick someone in the head, it usually isn't very powerful. I figure I shouldn't do too much leg weight training.

Leo95SE hes right. posts 3 and 7. practice and flexibility. Dang you seriously knew what was going on there.

As long as you continue to train your flexibility separately, leg weight training is fine, how do you expect to kick hard with weak legs? look at cro cop, he ktfo'd so many people with his tree trunk legs... you gotta weight train, just continue to practice your high kicks too!

Maestro Nobones As long as you continue to train your flexibility separately, leg weight training is fine, how do you expect to kick hard with weak legs? look at cro cop, he ktfo'd so many people with his tree trunk legs... you gotta weight train, just continue to practice your high kicks too! I'll make sure to do that then!

How often/ what kind of stretching do you do? Flexibility isn't set in stone, you can change it. There are shitloads of exercises you can do to increase flexibility, especially for legs...your #1 problem is probably your hips being too tight. How far can you go down into the splits? Being able to do the splits isn't necessary for good kicking but it will make it easier.

I should make a pictoral stretch guide

funny you should mention that http://tinyurl.com/cx2s6 http://tinyurl.com/dz4tg

nice links

Leo95SE funny you should mention that http://tinyurl.com/cx2s6 http://tinyurl.com/dz4tg the second link is not working for me. only part of it comes up

right click, save link as.

Leo95SE ohh, fancy word...i like that one no one smiley posts (had 2 add ome words in )

Socrates Yeah, actually. I grew up wrestling with my older brother, then wrestled in high school a bit. Took some boxing lessons at a gym for a few months, but gave it up pretty quick. I joined up with a MMA training gym (Springfield Fight Club) a couple months back and have been into it ever since. Going to jail for fighting directly after turning 17 got old REAL fast, and I have always been pretty addicted to fighting sports. I'm going to work on getting my martial arts belts through the military (easy to do at the Reserve Center here), and was going to continue training at the MMA gym and hopefully get set up with some good fights. A few of the guys travel around and fight, so I think it will be good teaching. The reason I want to get better at kicking now is because my friends set me up fights with guys from other towns or other guys for $50 a fight, and I can't get over the adrenaline rush from the fight. My kicks are weak, and when I kick someone in the head, it usually isn't very powerful. I figure I shouldn't do too much leg weight training. that makes more sense, shit i fight for free fairly regularly (not set up in advance tho), wish i could get $50 2 do it

How to kick higher?

having to force down breakfast?

having to force down breakfast?

I have had a hard time eating breakfast lately. Even after a good night's rest, I wake up, get ready and walk to get to the dining hall and thats a good 15-20 minutes after I wake up. I will take like two bites and either feel full or have some stomach pains. Anyone else have this problem? Anything I should do?

i know what you're talking about, it happens to me sometimes, not exactly sure why it is though, i usually wait a little bit and eat, but im also not bulking, if you're bulking i'd consider just forcing that shit down and toughing out the pain and you'll get used to it.

It happens to me alot I get a big glass of water, chew up my eggs and just wash it down

i'm STARVING as soon as i wake up. to the point where i hafta keep a banana close to me to down before i can even move.

happens to me every fucking day I normally just eat Oatmeal and a banana or something and force down my Creatine, glass of water, fish oil and all taht shit then I eat alot more later

i've just been making shakes...ice, skim milk or water, 2 scoops whey, 1/2cup oats, 2 tbsp peanut butter. Goes down quick and easy and that's like 600 cals.

This happens to me on a daily basis as well... fuckin sucks. The texture of eggs gets absolutely nasty when you are literally choking them down

I used to wake up fucking starving, but my appitite has been fubared for awhile.

i'm like that in the morning too....i just try to compensate by eating more later in the day

Lysine, B12, etc to promote appetite might help

Basically all my life I never ate anything untill noon-3 pm, I was just never hungry...At night I would eat constantly, everything in sight. As long as I don't eat too much at night I'm hungry in the morning

iGNiTE This happens to me on a daily basis as well... fuckin sucks. The texture of eggs gets absolutely nasty when you are literally choking them down werd, 3 eggs max for me in the morning.

iGNiTE This happens to me on a daily basis as well... fuckin sucks. The texture of eggs gets absolutely nasty when you are literally choking them down wow i could never put that into words until you said it. eggs are the worst thing to try and put down...but the other stuff is a lot easier.

my eggs are incredible

I think im just gonna start blending my entire breakfast into a shake and pounding it 5 minutes after I wake up. Anybody ever try to grind up toast and Vector cereal?

SickLife i'm STARVING as soon as i wake up. to the point where i hafta keep a banana close to me to down before i can even move. oh my god, i thought i was the only one. I wake up, grab the banana that I leave next to my bed and eat it.

i cant eat solid food for my first meal of the day, so i always do a shake. its not hard to crap 800-1000 calories into one, which i think is a pretty good start on the day

Ceaze my eggs are incredible my eggs are incredible edible eggs

I'm the same way, takes me awhile till I can eat... try taking a b vitamin complex... and stretching upon waking up...

jaymode I have had a hard time eating breakfast lately. Even after a good night's rest, I wake up, get ready and walk to get to the dining hall and thats a good 15-20 minutes after I wake up. I will take like two bites and either feel full or have some stomach pains. Anyone else have this problem? Anything I should do? im usually still full from the previous night (when bulking). i always have to wait a bit to eat and when i do its usually beef jerky and/or a protein shake for breakfast.

having to force down breakfast?

How long have you been in the game?

How long have you been in the game?

This june will mark my 10th year of working out competitively for bbing in general. What are your gains since you started myself, I've grown 2 inches and gained over 120lbs I was 5'8 116lbs when I started.

ive been reppin compton for about 15years

Just over 3 months now. 6'3" 190 when I started - 6'3" 224 now

Filmboy44 This june will mark my 10th year of working out competitively for bbing in general. What are your gains since you started myself, I've grown 2 inches and gained over 120lbs I was 5'8 116lbs when I started. fuuuck you doubled in weight how old were you when you started? or just tell me how old you are now and ill subtract 10 for you

i started lifitng and controlling my diet a little over a year ago again after not working out or exercising since high school basically. last year i was about 240-250 and at least 30%bf if not more. i got down to about 190 and now i am at 215 and 14% at the moment and dropping. edit - and i regret letting myself go for so long. so anyone young that reads this dont do what i did. i would be so much farther along than what i am now if i had those 2-3 years extra under my belt

far too long for what I've gotten too. I need to scan some pictures of at 6-0 175lbs though.

Undefined fuuuck you doubled in weight how old were you when you started? or just tell me how old you are now and ill subtract 10 for you I am going to be 26 in June...was 16 when I started

7 months. People say I look bigger and more like someone who works out rather than just a "big guy." Whatever, I'm very far from where I want to be.

About 5 years total over a span of 10 years.

just about 1 year

Soularis About 5 years total over a span of 10 years. Is that the Iceman in your av?

offically about 17 months started 6'4" 165 now am 6'4" 225

I started about 4 months ago. I was 6'4" 178 lbs when I started and now I'm 6'4" 201 lbs

almost 3 years seriously after one year of dicking around

15 years, started about 5'2" 119 and pudgy, im 5 9ish and 260 in the offseason and compete about 215

PurEvl 15 years, started about 5'2" 119 and pudgy, im 5 9ish and 260 in the offseason and compete about 215 your interview was praised among the other guys hats off to you

almost 2 years

2.5 months gained 10 lbs newb gains so most of my went up by 1.5x or 2x

somewhere in the neighborhood of a year 6'1" 170 6'1" 230

Filmboy44 your interview was praised among the other guys hats off to you really? thanks man, I really enjoyed talking about bb'ing, it helped alot in the current state im in. Always helps me remember why i do it

PurEvl really? thanks man, I really enjoyed talking about bb'ing, it helped alot in the current state im in. Always helps me remember why i do it where is this interview you speak of i wanna see

gsteclipse97 where is this interview you speak of i wanna see seconded

gsteclipse97 where is this interview you speak of i wanna see i agree

it was a speakerphone convo with more then one person, I did it for justing and his documentry. I was very honored as well, it was nice of him to include me, he didnt have too

so, we are all gonna have some sor tof access to this documentary right?? I hioope so

How long have you been in the game?