The harder I work out - the more hungry I am during the day

The harder I work out - the more hungry I am during the day

I was doing fine with a bowl of cereal and a glass of OJ in the morning and not eating until dinner time... but for the past few days I upped my workout to an extra hour of hard cardio and now i am voraciously hungry during lunch time A few minutes ago i was sitting at my desk, and i had the biggest craving for a salad or something green. Since i was running short on time, i settled for a subway sandwhich, but i havent eaten lunch for a while now. Is this normal or should i supress my desire to eat?

more hungry = hungrier

ryazbeck more hungry = hungrier yeah yeah... same difference

i dont think i've ever worked out early in the morning, but my friend does sometimes and he said hes really hungry all day. and your goals should determine whether or not you should be eating more or less. bulking, slimming?

ryazbeck i dont think i've ever worked out early in the morning, but my friend does sometimes and he said hes really hungry all day. i dont work out in the morning during the week, only during the weekend. But when i workout at night during the week - i work out hard. my goal is to have my shirt soaked in sweat and i have to actually ring it out like a soaked towel

ryazbeck i dont think i've ever worked out early in the morning, but my friend does sometimes and he said hes really hungry all day. and your goals should determine whether or not you should be eating more or less. bulking, slimming? slimming . I am trying to lower my bf%. I am doing pretty damn good too, just gotta stay on course and i dont want to derail it by giving in to hunger

Juggernaut I was doing fine with a bowl of cereal and a glass of OJ in the morning and not eating until dinner time... Is this normal or should i supress my desire to eat? How much do you weigh/how tall are you, what are your goals, etc? Starvation much? edit: damnit i took too long to respond

then if you're gonna eat that snack at lunch try to make it low cal. count your calories www.fitday.com and eat around 2000 cals, with working out and cardio you should lose no problem.

My questions still remain valid. How many calories are you taking in per day though? 1 bowl cereal and a glass of oj is like a couple hundred calories.

ryazbeck then if you're gonna eat that snack at lunch try to make it low cal. count your calories www.fitday.com and eat around 2000 cals, with working out and cardio you should lose no problem. i am doing calorie counting now actually. i am trying to do between 1300-1500 a day for intake

b-stevens My questions still remain valid. How many calories are you taking in per day though? 1 bowl cereal and a glass of oj is like a couple hundred calories. i have a bowl of special K cereal and a glass of OJ for breakfest. For dinner i usually have one of those healthy choice meals that is at a max 500 calories. Maybe some pineapple pieces of an apple when i get home from the gym. Plus more water than jebus to drink

b-stevens How much do you weigh/how tall are you, what are your goals, etc? Starvation much? edit: damnit i took too long to respond i dont know what i weigh now after 4 months of this crazy diet/workout plan i am on. I know for a fact i now can wear a 33 pant size and its loose as hell on me. Last i checked i was 6'0, 185lbs, but then again that was end of janurary

Juggernaut i dont know what i weigh now after 4 months of this crazy diet/workout plan i am on. I know for a fact i now can wear a 33 pant size and its loose as hell on me. Last i checked i was 6'0, 185lbs, but then again that was end of janurary What makes you want to slim down at that weight?

b-stevens What makes you want to slim down at that weight? soccer season. I play forward. The skinnier i am, the faster I get. PLUS - i want a 6 pack so bad

holy crap you need to eat more often!

damn son.. that doesnt even sound like 1000 calories

jonno damn son.. that doesnt even sound like 1000 calories

I just had 4 double cheeseburgers from Mcdonalds.

Girl_Next_Door holy crap you need to eat more often! I have a crappy metabolism .... if i eat it goes straight to my gut, and i really want a washboard stomach

jonno damn son.. that doesnt even sound like 1000 calories its between 1300-1500 a day. I burn probably 600-800 at the gym a night, so i have to intake something

Juggernaut I was doing fine with a bowl of cereal and a glass of OJ in the morning and not eating until dinner time... but for the past few days I upped my workout to an extra hour of hard cardio and now i am voraciously hungry during lunch time A few minutes ago i was sitting at my desk, and i had the biggest craving for a salad or something green. Since i was running short on time, i settled for a subway sandwhich, but i havent eaten lunch for a while now. Is this normal or should i supress my desire to eat? *suspicious* you're joking, right?

Elfling *suspicious* you're joking, right? no... why? edit: I wouldnt come looking for serious advice spouting off bullshit....

cereal and oj lightweight

sounds like you have a horrid diet

Ceaze sounds like you have a horrid diet how so? I am not usually hungry ?

The harder I work out - the more hungry I am during the day

Creatine + Clen

Creatine + Clen

During the ECY stack I had no concerns with [testing my rats with] CEE. Now that Ive moved [my rats] on to slightly more potent agents, I would rather not risk dehydration or the other assumed risks in the combo. Is is safe or should I hold out on [feeding my rats] the CEE till after the cycle? ib4flames.

i'm no pro, but dont creatine and clen do opposite things? i thought creatine helped retain water, and clen helped get rid of it?

not that this has to do with your question but i find this story of clen very alarming and interesting. Ack what a nightmare. 1 gram Clenbuterol was obtained, later it was measured and dissolved into water to make the proper amount ratio per ml. But looky here: Some clenbuterol, what seemed to be very little stayed on the tool which was used to move the clenbuterol from one container to another. Hey there (I thought in stuper), why dont I taste the remain and see what happens. (Can you think of something more ingeniues?--looking back, it was one of my most stupid and dangerous decisions of my life) Apparently an amount of approximately 5 - 8 miligram of clenbuterol was sublingually ingested, possibly more. (normal dose is at the microgram area), for those who dont know Clenbuterol is active at even 100 mcg. with the ~5000-8000 mcg that was ingested, some 50-80 times stronger the active dose, some unwanted effects might occur if you plan to live a healthy life, dont mistake where I have. T+30: Strange feeling, as if consciousness had changed, but not similiar to anything I ever felt. T+1h: Feeling somewhat better than normal (if only I would know what was ahead of me....) Is this clenbuterol i thought? T+2h: Heart rate is higher, but not alarming. T+3h: Eyes are open wide, and face is feeling stretched, something is building up, and fast. T+4h: Eyeballs seem to receive some greenish color besides the normal white... and quite amount of axienty had built up, dizzyness and nausea, but somewhat consciousness enhancement, certainly not a good time. T+5h: feeling quite ill, heart begins to speed up, and for the next 24 hours the heart rate stays at a steady alarming 125-135 beats per minute (WHILE LYING DOWN WITH HEAD ON PILLOW), i could hear my heart with my ear as the vains in my head and the entire body are all swallen up and beating, I can feel the blood pumping intensively, and I feel as I am ready to explode. My girlfriend urges me to get an ambulance, but I disagree, hoping its going to be fine and reassuring her i'm 'okayyyy.' My entire body was dancing to the beats of my heart; and it was the worst tune you could ever imagine. T+6h: From here on after for the next 18 hours, intense pressure in my head and limbs had built up, eyes got more wide open, and skin more stretched. T+12h: It feels as if my heart cant take it anymore as i feel it loosens in some fraile way, and begins to irregularly beat, which is extremely uncomfortable, and quite dangerous. T+13h: I get dehydrated rather easily, and my tempeature is 38 degrees celceus. T+15h: for the past hour the tempeature has risen +1 degree. I am now considering the ambulance theory (in my head), as I feel I cant take much more of this. T+16h: The pressure in the head is unbearable and keeps on increasing, the pain arises as if the skull pressures the brain and there is a psychological feeling as if brain fluid is frying the brain, from the temperature T+17h: A cold shower really helped ... ALOT. T+19h: Another shower helped. T+20h: I'm quite tired and exhusted, but in agonizing head pain fearing taking any sedatives since i dont know what interacts with this and how; i take 750mg Paracetamol. T+21h: Feeling a bit better, but still -- headache is anguishing, I am utterly exhusted and afraid to fall asleep, although possibly, i can. T+24h: Heart rate down to 120 per minute, and tempeature had decreased by two degrees the past two hours, a nice opportunity to get some sleep T+32h: Woke up.... (Thank God, I'm alive!) heart rate is still at a steady 120 beats per minute while lying down #!$#!$#!$!% T+42h: heart rate down to a steady 105 beats per minute t+70h: 65 beats per minute, lying down. For the following week, intense vain, skin, and eye pain was felt, besides the utter exhustion and the sharp pain in the center of the head. Thank God, For He saved me from my stupidity That only my faith kept me going, thougout this living nightmare. There were many side effects during the experience, of pseudohallucenogenic nature: closed and open eye visual effects, very hard stimulation; food was tasteless and meaningless, and would result in vomiting; nothing could be drank besides water, or heartburn would occur, and it did, from drinking Cola, alone. Increased sweating, and increased resperation, hard amphetamiine-like jitterness which lasted throughout the entire horryfing experience, highly-extremely increased metabolic rate, tempeature changes, general change in consciousness, ear popping, and some more things. Overall, This was my first experience with this pseudosteroidical substance, which i didnt take seriously, and i paid the price, and i'm lucky i'm alive to report it. Dont be stupid. If you cant measure something properly, and or not sure of its potency - DO NOT DO IT: as tempting or curiousing as it may be, you might not be as lucky as I was. What a nightmare Thank God its over. for your rats sake ;x

Dunken not that this has to do with your question but i find this story of clen very alarming and interesting. for your rats sake ;x wow i bet your buddy was ripped after that

My rats take it in 20mcg tab form. Not much risk of overdose there. They are at 80mcg today. While in the most general sense they would appear to have opposing impacts, but on a cellular level they have little to do with eachother. My rats are drinking a 1.5-2 gallons of water per day so I think most of the risk is mitigated, but I want to be sure.

IMHO i think that you wont look as good as if you did creatine for like 4 weeks and then ran your clen because w/ clen you are trying to lose bf and look shredded and depending on how you respond to creatine you might have water retention leaving you slightly bloated. cliffsne makes you bigger, the other makes you smaller, so run the big then the small

supposedly that is the advantage of CEE, it eliminates the hydrogen thereby eliminating the water retention. The use would be to retain as much muscle while maintaining a caloric deficit stacked with a potent metabolic enhancer.

iwishiwascool supposedly that is the advantage of CEE, it eliminates the hydrogen thereby eliminating the water retention. The use would be to retain as much muscle while maintaining a caloric deficit stacked with a potent metabolic enhancer. huh i havent done the research on CEE (haha but bought it anyway) well then i guess go for it?

Dunken not that this has to do with your question but i find this story of clen very alarming and interesting. for your rats sake ;x yea that guy was a dope i read that post on another board from him

gsteclipse97 yea that guy was a dope i read that post on another board from him yeah, he admits being an idiot, which i credit him for. but to me, just making that little of a mistake such as, mis measuring, etc and getting thoes sides? its just not worth it to fuck around with in my opinion.

the caffeine is what dehydrates you, not the ephedrine or clen

Dunken yeah, he admits being an idiot, which i credit him for. but to me, just making that little of a mistake such as, mis measuring, etc and getting thoes sides? its just not worth it to fuck around with in my opinion. if you buy the liquid pre diluted instead of makin it yourself then you should have nothing to worry about unless you are a real dope who cant measure correctly. i dont see how anyone could screw it up if you took 10 seconds to measure it and double check

I bought 500g of CEE from bulknutrition today.

How much potassium and taurine are your rats taking?

AznRyda How much potassium and taurine are your rats taking? 5g taurine, just banannas for cramps when I feel them. When I can tell the rats feel them.

i need to supp with magnesium to get rid of the cramps

The first few days were crazy. It wasnt the big muscles... just the lil ones. Id be sitting still for a while and my entire back would cramp up. Or my hands or toes.... ect. I was fine today.

Creatine + Clen

Name food that you eat while cutting/dieting.

Name food that you eat while cutting/dieting.

Just want to see what everyone likes to eat while they are cutting/dieting. I want to know what's good and what's bad. I usually eat Chicken Breast and Tuna. What about Potatos? Are most fruits healthy?

Blue Bell Sugar free popsicles hehe

Just wanted to see what everyone else ate while cutting/dieting. On Sugar Hill Refer to sticky

Eggs, tuna, chicken, turkey, ground turkey, ground beef, steak, beef jerky, vegetables, almonds, peanuts, sunflower seeds, peanut butter, shredded wheat, whole wheat bread, skim milk, etc...

depends on how hard I'm dieting

shastaisforwinners depends on how hard I'm dieting if i'm serious, tuna it is. if i'm not, spicy tuna rolls here i come

im technically cutting right now and im going to go eat some chicken quesadillas.

turkey sandwiches, chicken breast and rice, cereal

Egg Whites All Bran Apples Bananas Almonds (Blanched) Wasa Bread Crackers Flax Bread Chicken Breasts Carrots+Celerey Mushrooms Fat Free Yogurt Ultra Lean Chicken Breast+Turkey Breast (Deli Sandwhich Meat) Lean Steak Brown Rice Unsweetened Apple Sauce

cereal, beer

turkey

CLA as a sup.

anything, just less of it

Low fat cottage cheese, chicken, tuna, lean beef, skim milk, olive oil, egg whites, asparagus, green beans, spanish, protein powder.

i dont know but im hungry as hell right now..and i still have the taste of whey in my mouth.

egg whites/chicken breast with oatmeal and hot sauce Also ate tuna too. Pretty boring diet. Love eating back at maintainence.

eggs whole wheat bread tuna chicken turkey corn green beans peas apples bananas oats celery carrots mrp's whey protein peanuts

D-GUy egg whites/chicken breast with oatmeal and hot sauce Also ate tuna too. Pretty boring diet. Love eating back at maintainence. mm hot sauce. the only thing as far as "dressing" goes in my fridge that's 0,0,0,0,0 everything

I use the asian hot chilli oil which is like 5 calories for every tablespoon of the stuff. Though when I was dieting down I was using alot of oatmeal, still do though now though, guess it's force of habit.

chicken, tuna, sperm, wheat bread, mustard, carrots, green beans, peas, corn, lean steak, turkey, 100%whey protein powder, strawberries, bananas, egg whites, and I get a free day every week to eat whatever i want.

pop tarts

i had chick fil a on friday

nic379 chicken, tuna, sperm, wheat bread, mustard, carrots, green beans, peas, corn, lean steak, turkey, 100%whey protein powder, strawberries, bananas, egg whites, and I get a free day every week to eat whatever i want. Sperm?

Foods that I like, lower portions and healthier versions (lite/sugarfree/etc...) i don't push myself too hard to eat superclean or only certain things. I already eat pretty clean as it is, minus a cheat meal here or there...

egg whites like a mug. you can get low fat/carb protein powder, any lean chicken and beef, Non Fat Carb Countdown Milk (0g fat, 3g carbs, and like 14g protein per cup)

Name food that you eat while cutting/dieting.

ive been experiencing this weird eating pattern...

ive been experiencing this weird eating pattern...

hey guys ive been working on cutting since late january and ive been seeing some gradual results. ive changed my diet from junk food, to lesser junk foods to a more healthy diet. lately, ive been focusing on keeping things in moderation while trying to maintain my healthy diet. everyday, i eat a cottage cheese and tuna sandwhich for lunch, breakfast is shredded wheat and cottage cheese, a myoplex bar for snack.. soemtimes fruit and trail mix... and then for dinnner, i eat some kind of meat with rice or anything that i can tell wouldnt be too unhealthy for me. this past week or two, my apetite has been changing. every two hours, i get hungry.. like i gotta eat something but i cant eat too much. my stomach shrank i guess and i can only eat so much in one sitting, but after, i get hungry again. and for some reason, i have to walk or do someting after each meal. has anyone experienced this? cliffs: after four months of cutting, my apetite is changing and craving more food.

Whats your body fat? Maybe its your choice of food too. Some types of food aren't as fulfilling.

well.. i started at 29% i havent taken a test since i started so im not sure what im at now. today i woke up kinda late so i couldnt really make my food. but i was able to eat... -a bag of trail mix -one plain tuna and cottage cheese sandwich -rice with some grilled pork and egg (im not sure if this is too bad for you) -vietnamese sandwich - grilled pork

You might not be eating enough. Do you count your calories?

i dont count my calories like i used to.. i figured the meal would work around 300-400 each time.. but youre right, i might not be taking in enough calories?

not enough calories and no "fillers" really. when in doubt up your aqua intake. it may help offset some of your hunger.

aight ill try drinking more water

too many simple carbs.. eat more low GI complex carbs. No white bread on those sandwiches, get ezekiel bread or stone ground whole wheat bread. Dont eat white rice, eat brown rice.. and only in limited amounts etc.

ive been eating the 12 grain breads by orowheat. as for rice, well.. yea i eat white rice

ive been experiencing this weird eating pattern...

Post-bulking *PICS* of me v.imnowfatlikechristophers

Post-bulking *PICS* of me v.imnowfatlikechristophers

Ok, these first pics are from October, I was about 200lbs (6'1"). This was after about 5 months of cutting. I have been bulking hardcore since then and am now at 230 lbs. I'm taking next week off for Spring Break then dieting all spring and summer. Here are pics taken today. So there they are. Being thsi fat gives me plenty of motivation to cut. I can't wait to get back to eating healthy, mixing in more physical activity, and overall just feeling better.

live strong! Nice gains Post your very very very starting pic for some motivation to the light weights here

Excellent Work Werdna. Excellent gains. I admire people like you who can bulk and cut with hard work.

How long have you been training?

shit, ur still thin even in the bulking pictures, i need to post some of my fat ass whenb i weighed 265...

you should stay fat for awhile before cutting

I would have been happy with the body you had in the first picture, damn.

get fatter

wow, quite a difference, how have your numbers changed?

holy shit. good bulk

you got you some love handles like me

Welsh0913 live strong! Nice gains Post your very very very starting pic for some motivation to the light weights here

Ceaze you should stay fat for awhile before cutting why?

Your teeth are very very white

Werdna why? More fat = more gains

Welsh0913 Your teeth are very very white Poor photoshopping. I do it all the time!

nice progress broly

amazing, are body types are so much alike. I look like your current pics right now as well. You don't look like you have a lot of fat around your waist, but its there isn't it? Thats how I am. Looks like your neck/chin area got a little fat on it, thats the only thing pissing me off about bulking.

SickLife holy shit. good bulk .

What are you gonna cut back down to?

i have those same board shorts good job bulking

any gains on your lifts?

Woah.. nice work, fatmo.

Good Job on gaining but like you said you don't look 230

have your gains gone up respectively? if not, hang out at fattyville for a while

Post-bulking *PICS* of me v.imnowfatlikechristophers

Fast food diet?

Fast food diet?

I usually eat 1-2 meals per day and usually unhealthy(burgers etc). What are some ok places for a picky eater to try and change up my mentality.

The grocery store. 'Nuff Said.

Honestly, if you want a healthy place to eat and you're picky (I'm assuming you're wanting to lose weight) you have no other choice than to make a life change and start learning how to cook and eat healthy.

subway?

walmart, they sell a good size rotisseri wow i suck at spelling chicken for $3.99

subway, jambajuice

Subway is terrible. Whats up 3,500mg of sodium per sub.

Phlab Subway is terrible. Whats up 3,500mg of sodium per sub. that's what deli meat does for you

salt isnt bad for you, never has been, i eat so much god damn salt its insane, i have my whole life, i love it and its never hurt me.

christophers whats wrong with some sodium, its actually beneficial to athletes/bb'rs pre contest diet guru scot abel suggested 2g per liter of water consumed daily it strongly varies by person. If you were to eat a couple of those subs a day that would add up quick, + all the sodium from the other BS. Not everyone on here the lifts is an athlete. Some might lift and sit in a office all day, therefore not needing the surplus of sodium

ryazbeck salt isnt bad for you, never has been, i eat so much god damn salt its insane, i have my whole life, i love it and its never hurt me. victim #1 of hypertension

I know there are benefits of it, I've always put around 500mg in my PWO shake.. but too much, like anything - is not a good thing

I'd love to know how it doesn't create hypertension, because there are many studies out there that would definately say otherwise

looking.......!

I don't have any reputable places to search. I searched yahoo for some links, there's tons of newspaper articles and shit, but no studies to back it. For the average person though, that much sodium is entirely too much. Maybe just because I'm a little bias because hypertension is quite common in my family.. I'm actually borderline to hypertension, 135-140 depending on the day and my sodium intake is fairly low

so basically it's saying if you're active consume lots of salt. If you're not, then don't

here is my bacon cheese burger body Ive been eating like crap for years, somehow my cholesterol was ok @ last check, but when Im not flexing after a full meal, the 8 pack is fading away

basically acclude, what you need to do is stop being lazy, go to the grocery store, buy tons of healthy food, and buy some of those cheap tupperware to take along and make meals, lots of them at night and bring food with you in a plastic sack. i do it everyday as well as many people on this board do.

The Acclude here is my bacon cheese burger body Ive been eating like crap for years, somehow my cholesterol was ok @ last check, but when Im not flexing after a full meal, the 8 pack is fading away 8 Pack? At most I can see a 2 Pack with two 1/2 packs... You need to bulk, just healthier.

Idyfohu 8 Pack? At most I can see a 2 Pack with two 1/2 packs... You need to bulk, just healthier. used to be

ha, i love how everyone is convinced salt will kill you. i've always been active. honestly the only problem salt has ever given me is a little diarrhea. thats because your kidneys flushes that shit right out.

The Acclude I usually eat 1-2 meals per day and usually unhealthy(burgers etc). What are some ok places for a picky eater to try and change up my mentality. i like McD's salads and yogurt parfaits

ryazbeck ha, i love how everyone is convinced salt will kill you. i've always been active. honestly the only problem salt has ever given me is a little diarrhea. thats because your kidneys flushes that shit right out. i dont like salt because it makes me retain water.

Idyfohu Honestly, if you want a healthy place to eat and you're picky (I'm assuming you're wanting to lose weight) you have no other choice than to make a life change and start learning how to cook and eat healthy. This is true. I bring a cooler to work with me every day with my food..you simply do better if you know exactly what's in your lunch.

subway is about the best of the bunch. i get a footlong turkey (double meat usually) on wheat and make 2 meals out of it. togos tuna sammich is also good

Fast food diet?

Had a fascinating lecture today in Nutrition of Aging class...

Had a fascinating lecture today in Nutrition of Aging class...

We talked about calorie restriction and it's relation to life span. Apparently there are monkeys and mice on restricted calorie diets that live 2-4x longer than regular monkeys. Low cal/high nutrient diet drastically slow down the aging process, but the reasons are unknown. I suggested to my teacher it was because hormones like testosterone and IGF are lower in a caloric deficit, and she didn't even know that happened. You guys heard anything about it? Any opinions, reasons why it exists? I found it a pretty interesting lecture whereas I usually fall asleep in class.

Is it the same study that had monkeys and mice eat only every other day?

I thought it was something about free radicals

similarly why vegans/vegitarians tend to live longer, they consume less calories.

I actually heard about this a year or two ago, but it was people not mice who were experimenting on themselves. Quite frankly, they may live longer but they sounded a bit depressed about having to eat so little. Perhaps less calories=slower metabolism=less work on internal organs and such=longer life?

I was watching Penn & Teller Bullshit the other day, and they had on a guy that was on a big caloric deficit (or at least really low cal)...he was starting to get osteoperosis

I blame it on mcdonald's I blame it all on mcdonald's

i think when one of my profs covered it, he mentioned the reduced reproductive capability on caloric restriction. because energy isn't diverted to reproductive systems, things are easier for the body.

tize who wants to live to 100 anyway i would. if i were healthy.

Werdna We talked about calorie restriction and it's relation to life span. Apparently there are monkeys and mice on restricted calorie diets that live 2-4x longer than regular monkeys. Low cal/high nutrient diet drastically slow down the aging process, but the reasons are unknown. I suggested to my teacher it was because hormones like testosterone and IGF are lower in a caloric deficit, and she didn't even know that happened. You guys heard anything about it? Any opinions, reasons why it exists? I found it a pretty interesting lecture whereas I usually fall asleep in class. The authors of that study should have some discussion on the result

evi1eddie i think when one of my profs covered it, he mentioned the reduced reproductive capability on caloric restriction. because energy isn't diverted to reproductive systems, things are easier for the body. we're going to die sooner if we more? shit i hope I survive into my 30s

Had a fascinating lecture today in Nutrition of Aging class...

Flax or Fish Oil

Flax or Fish Oil

what up.... Ok I've been reading a lot about both fish and flaxseed... their benefits and what not. It goes back and forth saying flax is better...and fish is better... In your experience's what do you like better fish or flax... both health and cutting results.

take both

fish is higher omega 3 levels flax is more balanced 3,6,9

SteveO fish is higher omega 3 levels flax is more balanced 3,6,9 taking both at same time or alternate it....

Like christophers said if you HAVE to pick one make it Fish Oil, if not take both.

what about them fish burpss

QuePuto what about them fish burpss take em before bed

QuePuto what about them fish burpss or freeze them

QuePuto what about them fish burpss The ones I get have this special coating on them so they don't completely disolve until they reach the lower intestine (supposidly). I forget the name of the coating, but I got this big bottle of them at Sam's Club. Although I never had any fish stank from the uncoated capsules.

Draco The ones I get have this special coating on them so they don't completely disolve until they reach the lower intestine (supposidly). I forget the name of the coating, but I got this big bottle of them at Sam's Club. Although I never had any fish stank from the uncoated capsules. I get the enteric coated ones at Sam's Club, too.

CrackSeed I get the enteric coated ones at Sam's Club, too. the enteric coating smells kinda like marshmallows but i buy the omega complex from Sam's club: Borage, Flax, Fish, and Safflower Oils all in one capsule I take two in the morning and two before bed, i usually get one or two fish burps about 30 minutes after taking em

CrackSeed I get the enteric coated ones at Sam's Club, too. Sam's club eh... damn pay for another membership....hmmm

christophers if you pick one, then fish oil

Been on Fish oil for almost a month now and have yet to get these "fish burps"

Im new to this fish/flax stuff...how is this for the good balance of intake... take 6 fish gelcaps and 6 flax caps daily... too little too much.

Flax Seed Benefits vs. Fish Oil Benefits Flax seed oil benefits are numerous, and as such flax seed has been recommended in recent years as an essential part of a healthy diet. However, new evidence has emerged that although flaxseed is important, fish oil might be an even better source of Omega-3 fatty acids. What are flax seed oil benefits and how can it help you? Flax seed, also known as linseed, is an ancient crop that has been harvested all over the world. Its therapeutic properties have long been touted, as ancient peoples used it to soothe abdominal pains and aid digestion. Flax seed oil contains Omega-3 fatty acids, which have incredible immunity boosting qualities, meaning they can help your body fight off illness and disease. They also contain anti-inflammatory properties which may help manage depression, cancer and even slow the aging process. Most people are Omega-3 deficient, which is why it is so important to supplement your diet with them. The main flax seed oil benefits lie in its ALA fatty acid content. However, in order to be optimally effective ALA must be converted to long-chain Omega-3 fats in the body, and many people, especially the elderly, do not have efficient internal mechanisms to achieve this. What is a better source of Omega-3 Fatty Acids? Recent studies have shown that fish oil may be a better source for the Omega-3 fatty acids that your body needs. Fish oil, harvested from cold water fish, contains the fatty acids DHA and EPA. Research points to the fact that DHA and EPA have more therapeutic value than ALA found in flax seed oil. Also, DHA and EPA do not have to be converted, as they are already long-chain Omega-3 fats and are easily absorbed in the body. So the Omega-3 fatty acids in fish oil are better for your health than those found in flax seed oil, because they are more easily utilized by your body and are more powerful and therapeutic. You can increase flax seed oil benefits by substituting or adding fish oil to your diet. How Can You Find A High Quality Fish Oil Product? Only fish oils contain the special benefits of DHA and EPA Omega-3 fatty acids. So it's important that you find a high quality fish oil product so you can get the maximum health benefits. Some things to keep in mind: 1) Natural fish oils are oftentimes contaminated with heavy metals such as mercury. 2) Most fish oil in capsule form does not come from the country where it is harvested, meaning there are often additives to make sure it stays fresh through all the extra handling and processing. 3) Many fish oils contain low levels of DHA, which is the most important component. Therefore, you need to find a pure fish oil product that does not have any of the drawbacks mentioned above.

Flax or Fish Oil

starting weight training...

starting weight training...

hey guys, i'm 22, 5'7" and at 140lbs, i've never really done any weight training but i would really like to start...i'm kinda in shape at the moment, i like to run a lot, i do anywhere from 10-15 miles a week...i know it's a long shot but i'm kinda hoping to have the build of a running back or something close... also, what kind of supplements are good for someone starting out? i'm a full time college student so I can't always eat healthy (or eat at all ) thanks guys!

TruBloodTransAm i know it's a long shot but i'm kinda hoping to have the build of a running back or something close... then don't run so much

TruBloodTransAm i'm a full time college student so I can't always eat healthy (or eat at all ) That won't cut it, and it's also not true. A good tupperware set is your best friend. I'm a full-time college student and it can work.

well what kinda routine do you'll recommend for someone starting out?

Ceaze then don't run so much Yeah, focus on speed exercises if you want to be or look like a running back.

speed exercises?

TruBloodTransAm well what kinda routine do you'll recommend for someone starting out? I'd recommend hills or incline treadmill training for the speed, and wind sprints for endurance. If you have access to resistance bands and someone to help you, you can do that as well. That's for the running part, I'll let someone more knowledgable on the weights advise you there.

Davo Yeah, focus on speed exercises if you want to be or look like a running back. He might've meant don't do as much cardio

starting weight training...

Gym goers urged to drink beer

Gym goers urged to drink beer

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...tylehealthbeer Thought it was interesting

Sign me up

Clearly this is a fucking joke -- or prank.:weaksauce:

im a member KEKEEKKE OMGZ

you son of a bitch, i already made this thread http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1756867

I'm in

in a campaign launched by the nation's main association of producers of the alcoholic beverage. heh this isn't biased at all

i'll drink to that

it says it helps prevent dementia not in me it doesn't

I've got a friend of portuguese ethnicity. He works out and eats healthy and is in great shape and still has a 'portuguese' gut

Gym goers urged to drink beer

Ever mix ON whey with mcdonalds soft serve?

Ever mix ON whey with mcdonalds soft serve?

So good!

ever mix vodka with the sonic slushies? even better

SteveO ever mix vodka with the sonic slushies? even better I like vodka w/ the cherry limeade the best

ever mix players extreme with nothing?

ever suck a black mans dick for coke?

jonno ever suck a black mans dick for coke? *cough* i think you might be alone on that one...

youre eating McDonalds soft serve? thats REAL healthy.....

i like vodka covering my stomach.

DCCapen mmm i want vodka slushi now

Moonwalker youre eating McDonalds soft serve? thats REAL healthy..... ibchristophers

Moonwalker youre eating McDonalds soft serve? thats REAL healthy..... .....

Moonwalker youre eating McDonalds soft serve? thats REAL healthy..... could be worse...

Moonwalker youre eating McDonalds soft serve? thats REAL healthy..... healthy if you wanna lift big.

Moonwalker youre eating McDonalds soft serve? thats REAL healthy..... from what i know deznuts never eats like that. once and awhile is not going to cause health issues

breyers or edys>* ice cream

Ever mix ON whey with mcdonalds soft serve?

so i'm projecting 415g of protein for today

so i'm projecting 415g of protein for today

nothing wrong with this right? granted i'm sure a lot of it won't be used.

Then why so much?

what are you planning on eating?? i'm doing good to get around 120 a day

eat big, get big

dank eat big, shit big fixed

Most profesionnals on this board advice me and others to go around 1g per pound per day . I love high protein foods, so proly go alot more than that

let me guess youre around 150lbs?

You will have to JIHAD the shitter later buddy. It won't be pretty either... probably a case of the green apple splatters.

if your about 300 and 8% your right on track. Keep it up bro

Dos Equis4 You will have to JIHAD the shitter later buddy. It won't be pretty either... probably a case of the green apple splatters. Actually I have the opposite problem with super high protein intake... its like I'm laying down cinder blocks.

im 195. i know it's overboard but i like high protein foods, it's not on purpose

PurEvl if your about 300 and 8% your right on track. Keep it up bro people need to get calories somehow, eating all those damn carbs can be sickening. I consume a little over 500, because it's the only way to get a decent amount of calories for the day

2 cans of tuna, 3 protein shakes, 2 chicken breasts, 15 egg whites .... doesnt sound like too much but it sure as hell adds up p.s. - i cooked 15 egg whites to have over several days, but they were damn good and i was hungry.... i ate em all like a fat kid.

aenz 2 cans of tuna, 3 protein shakes, 2 chicken breasts, 15 egg whites .... doesnt sound like too much but it sure as hell adds up p.s. - i cooked 15 egg whites to have over several days, but they were damn good and i was hungry.... i ate em all like a fat kid. i hard boil 6 eggs a day and then just eat the whites. 3 before work out and 3 after.

SteveO people need to get calories somehow, eating all those damn carbs can be sickening. I consume a little over 500, because it's the only way to get a decent amount of calories for the day bro we cant even use you as an example, I have never needed more the 4500 to grow nor has anyone else I compete with, and we are 220 with sub 5%. Your a genetic freak and not in a good way.

SteveO people need to get calories somehow, eating all those damn carbs can be sickening. I consume a little over 500, because it's the only way to get a decent amount of calories for the day if you're eatting protein in excess just for calories why not consume more healthy fats since per gram it has more caloies?

ST33LR4T if you're eatting protein in excess just for calories why not consume more healthy fats since per gram it has more caloies? I personally enjoy alot of protein. I would only eat meat and eggs if I could.

ACURA TL-S I personally enjoy alot of protein. I would only eat meat and eggs if I could. your toilet would get

ACURA TL-S I personally enjoy alot of protein. I would only eat meat and eggs if I could. Then you would have no to little energy and life would suck

Neo22 Then you would have no to little energy and life would suck The inuit and eskimos lived (and still living) life well enough without carbs

christophers protein is a very inefficient source of fuel But it tastes so good.

Neo22 Then you would have no to little energy and life would suck Ya, I would probably throw some potatoes in various forms in there. Maybe some cereal.

eddscat The inuit and eskimos lived (and still living) life well enough without carbs thgere bodies have adapted centuries to allow them to survive with what they have. For instance, an old geology prof who worked in tehy artic told us there is a meat, raw caribou I think, that they can eat, but the rest of us can't becuase of bactria in th meat

Dragon thgere bodies have adapted centuries to allow them to survive with what they have. For instance, an old geology prof who worked in tehy artic told us there is a meat, raw caribou I think, that they can eat, but the rest of us can't becuase of bactria in th meat All those peeps on the atkins are'nt dieing

do you guys carry fans with you, to dispose of the putrate smell coming from you ass with that much protein?? Try a little brown rice and potatoes with your meals, they are filling and are great energy resources!! I cant afford to shit out that much protein, no matter how good it tastes!

so i'm projecting 415g of protein for today

Dumb question

Dumb question

I recently started a new job and I dont have access to a fridge/cooking equipment. Its bag and box lunches all the way. Since I dont feel like eating cold chicken all the time I was considering makeing my diet staple eggs. Is this a good or bad idea? Lets say I eat 5 hard boiled eggs for lunch everyday whats the calories going to look like? I already eat 5 for breakfast with a slice of toast. I looked on my egg cartons and there is no dietary info so any help would be great. I am thinking of just makeing it a nice dozen eggs that I eat everyday. IE 6 for breakfast w toast, 6 for lunch, baked chicken/tuna/salad something like that for dinner. CLIFFS : how many calories are in a egg with yolk, and without yolk if at all possible.

I did a quick google and found this does it appear accurate to all you f&ners? Egg White 17 calories Egg Yolk 59 calories Fried Egg 92 calories Hard-Boiled Egg 76 calories Poached Egg 76 calories Scrambled Egg 100 calories (includes addition of milk in recipe)

youre gonna get sick of eggs fast

sounds about right

there are between 60-70 calories per egg

crucialkc youre gonna get sick of eggs fast no i wont i love eggs. then again im only eating 2.5 dozen a week right now. Are there any negatives i should be worried about eating so many eggs?

Filmboy44 there are between 60-70 calories per egg Yeah but believe it or not, whenever you cook eggs, the amount of calories increases very very slightly

the protein to cal seems a little low should I maybe throw a can of tuna in at lunch to?

Silver85327 no i wont i love eggs. then again im only eating 2.5 dozen a week right now. Are there any negatives i should be worried about eating so many eggs? you're only eating 2.5 doz per week, and you're talking about eating 7 doz per week. HUGE difference. other than salmonella, which I doubt you'll get, I don't see what could be wrong with it

crucialkc Yeah but believe it or not, whenever you cook eggs, the amount of calories increases very very slightly which is why I said between 60-70...everything is variable

Silver85327 the protein to cal seems a little low should I maybe throw a can of tuna in at lunch to? never can get too much tuna

crucialkc you're only eating 2.5 doz per week, and you're talking about eating 7 doz per week. HUGE difference. other than salmonella, which I doubt you'll get, I don't see what could be wrong with it I give him a week before eggs make him sick, 7 dozens is too much, that can't be healthy. I say suck it up and eat your cold grilled chicken sandwich and other cold foods.

RenaultFreak I give him a week before eggs make him sick, 7 dozens is too much, that can't be healthy. I say suck it up and eat your cold grilled chicken sandwich and other cold foods. i back this

how much protien does an average chicken breast have? a can of tuna?

RenaultFreak I give him a week before eggs make him sick, 7 dozens is too much, that can't be healthy. I say suck it up and eat your cold grilled chicken sandwich and other cold foods. right, and there are more things out there other than eggs and chicken to eat for protein sources.. get yourself a damn tub of protein, some turkey and fish for crying out loud

Inferno69 how much protien does an average chicken breast have? a can of tuna? both are around 35ish

Inferno69 how much protien does an average chicken breast have? a can of tuna? dunno about hte tuna...cause I dont' eat it, but chicken...8oz = 40-50grams

RenaultFreak I give him a week before eggs make him sick, 7 dozens is too much, that can't be healthy. I say suck it up and eat your cold grilled chicken sandwich and other cold foods. i only work 4 days a week 10 hours a day. so im talking 5 dozen a week

alright, so I should get tons of protien a day... do lots of cardio and some shit with freeweights (still need an answer to my question in my other thread) and I'll be loosing weight fast? What about carbs? Should I try eating as little as I can or what?

Silver85327 i only work 4 days a week 10 hours a day. so im talking 5 dozen a week his post still applies

Inferno69 alright, so I should get tons of protien a day... do lots of cardio and some shit with freeweights (still need an answer to my question in my other thread) and I'll be loosing weight fast? What about carbs? Should I try eating as little as I can or what? you're a long ways off from losing weight fast my friend...first spend a few days in the archives reading about weight gain weight loss and working out and cardio and nutritional facts, diets, etc.

Filmboy44 you're a long ways off from losing weight fast my friend...first spend a few days in the archives reading about weight gain weight loss and working out and cardio and nutritional facts, diets, etc. I've been doing that for the whole weekend

Filmboy44 his post still applies so ya think i should rotate? like 6 eggs on monday chicken breast for lunch dinner. then eggs for b eggs for l the like eggs for b t for lunch etc? im concerned with my food going bad sitting in 100 degree weather for 6 hours rather than the protein i am getting.

Silver85327 Are there any negatives i should be worried about eating so many eggs? you're gonna have alotta nasty farts. edit : on that note, i just farted. and it was pretty sulpherous.

Silver85327 so ya think i should rotate? like 6 eggs on monday chicken breast for lunch dinner. then eggs for b eggs for l the like eggs for b t for lunch etc? im concerned with my food going bad sitting in 100 degree weather for 6 hours rather than the protein i am getting. OT: how many workers? dunno there but here if the company has over 10 workers they need to supply a good eating/heating/fridge room, maybe you all should ask for at least a fridge and a microwave. Even hard boiled eggs can go bad after 6 hours on 100 degree weather. I think you should rotate them with another 5-6 different meals, cold sandwiches, cold salads or take in consideration not carrying your own food but eating in a nearby restaurant/dinner.... edit: 5 dozens per week is still too much

Dumb question

Genetics?

Genetics?

Or am I some kind of freak I'm 19, 5'7" and I weigh 145 lbs. I don't know what my body fat is. I am completely ripped though. I wouldn't lie as I want a legitimate answer, and I'm obviously not doing this to brag, but I'm really cut. I have never really worked out, and the only sit ups I have done were the ones I had to do to pass PE in HS, but I have really defined abs. Only recently have I started working out, I first started benching 130 30 times in sets of 10, and in a month I can comfortably bench 170 30 times and not get sore. My diet is terrible, whatever cereal is in the cupboard for breakfast, fast food/occasional deli sandwitch for lunch, and anything from spaghetti to steak for dinner with random snacks inbetween. I don't maintain a healthy diet at all, for now. Anyway, my main question is, is this genetics? I know not everyone can eat what they want, when they want and still ahve a body like mine. Is it all metabolism? I'm also kinda new to the working out thing, does anyone have any useful links to workout routines? I mainly want to do my upper body, but I want to keep my legs in proportion. Thanks in advance

uhh why are you doing 30 reps and 10 sets for bench. 300 reps on bench for a workout?

I don't know what the fuck I'm doing to be totally honest.

read the stickies. it is genetics that you got owned with such a short stature.

joy division read the stickies. it is genetics that you got owned with such a short stature.

you arent special you are skinny

joy division it is genetics that you got owned with such a short stature.

riiiight

what a gay thread

lol

DCCapen yea, you're a twig Uh, no shit. Why do you think I asked for advise?

i'm not sure i believe the 130 bench 30 times for sets of 10 at all when you first started working out at your size

What I meant was I put up 130 30 times, in 3 different sets, or whatever they're called. As I said before, I don't know what I'm doing.

Like 10 - 3 minute break - 10 more - 3 min - 10 more

A true freak of nature! 145 lbs RIPPED do your friends call you DIESEL and SWOLE?

P7 What I meant was I put up 130 30 times, in 3 different sets, or whatever they're called. As I said before, I don't know what I'm doing. yeah. what you said before was 130 lbs 30 reps for 10 sets...which means you would have done it 300 times. i understand you now

SteveO A true freak of nature! 145 lbs RIPPED do your friends call you DIESEL and SWOLE? dude i'm crunk but this is funny shita

+1 for more Bench Press, Curls and Ab workouts...

I don't know about you guys, but I'm obviously not doing this to brag, but I'm really cut made me laugh a little.

SteveO A true freak of nature! 145 lbs RIPPED do your friends call you DIESEL and SWOLE?

Gutrat I don't know about you guys, but made me laugh a little. me too. I immediately had the urge to quote it.

I guess I'll take my questions to a legitimate forum from now on.

this forum is legitimate. if you didnt post a bunch of BS for us to laugh at then we wouldnt make fun of you. i think your question was better off i'm really skinny and defined and i started working out and my bench has gone up and i have a shitty diet. how do i stay so skinny? is this genetics?

I wonder if he gets lots of girls.

ryazbeck this forum is legitimate. if you didnt post a bunch of BS for us to laugh at then we wouldnt make fun of you. i think your question was better off i'm really skinny and defined and i started working out and my bench has gone up and i have a shitty diet. how do i stay so skinny? is this genetics? your age. i ate TONS everyday, anything and everything, maybe like 4000 calories or somehting very high, my diet wasn't clean, lots of jack and mcd, drank a lot and smoked, etc. my body fat was 12-13% and had six pack.. and im a female. its not like that for me any more. obviously, many years have passed by.

Genetics?

Here is my deal, anyone with any knowlege on body structure...read this

Here is my deal, anyone with any knowlege on body structure...read this

Ok, I wish i had pics to tell the story.... My upper chest is fine, i can see improvements (line down the middle) and my "pecs" developing nicely...my arms are fine, my legs are fine.... The problem comes with the lower chest/ "triangle groin area" It looks like i have ample amounts of fat around these areas....but i am the healthiest eater around plus i work-out everyday and i am petty freakin active walking around.... is cardio my answer?

wont go away until you cut

If you have fat around your belly, you need to lose it, and you can't spot reduce. Eating healthy != weight loss. Cardio, eat less, and try some abdominal tightening exercises (google).

gyno?

Groin gyno.

2lowintegra gyno? YES! gyno on his abs! BRILLIANT!lc

jonno YES! gyno on his abs! BRILLIANT!lc that's my excuse

ralyks Cardio, eat less, and try some abdominal tightening exercises (google). ^^^ By 'lower chest', do you mean abdominals/obliques? It sounds like you need cardio and core exercises.

do squats on an exercise ball-its a wonderful core exercise =/

You've been on F&N forever dude, would've thought you'd know by now that the only way to get rid of fat is to cut it (and belly / lower torso fat is the last to go).

toconnx You've been on F&N forever dude, would've thought you'd know by now that the only way to get rid of fat is to cut it (and belly / lower torso fat is the last to go). yes, i just vented

Here is my deal, anyone with any knowlege on body structure...read this

Hi, Six pack is the goal here.

Hi, Six pack is the goal here.

Hey F&N I'm 6'3 211 ib's last i checked i was 15.4% body fat, i know its horrible, i need to tone up, i've been lifting every other day, I'm focused on working on my abs, what i eat and how i eat are my two major concerns. I eat three times a day, in the morning i have strawberries and bananna shake. I keep my calories low, i exercise daily run a mile every other day. Any suggestions? I haven't done any intense crunches or sit ups, I think i'm doing them totally wrong anyway. thanks for your help

Run for your life.

Start doing HIIT and keep lifting. Burn more calories than you eat.

awful diet..... eat protein

the knowledge you seek can be found in the stickies go forth towards enlightenment

shastaisforwinners the knowledge you seek can be found in the stickies go forth towards enlightenment

heh. he said the word "tone"

I think u are going to have to do longer cardio sessions then running a mile.

kodiak I think u are going to have to do longer cardio sessions then running a mile. I'm in the process of starting a work out. I just do this for kicks

HIT! do it!

go_duke21 Start doing HIIT and keep lifting. Burn more calories than you eat. I've heard this advice more then once. Sounds about right, easier said then done. Burn more calories than you eat? is that healthy?

The rest of the day i eat whatever, i need a steady diet with protein. I'm searching forums for links for good protein.

Tropic Burn more calories than you eat? is that healthy? It's fine within reasonable bounds

Tropic Burn more calories than you eat? is that healthy? you do realize.. that you burn calories by just sitting around throughout the day...... right? you dont need to burn off 2000 calories or whatever while working out

GIMME TEH SEX PAXX!!!21lc

Tropic I've heard this advice more then once. Sounds about right, easier said then done. Burn more calories than you eat? is that healthy? You realize that sitting on your ass you burn anywhere from 1500-God knows how much depending on the person. You have alot to learn, but it doesn't really matter because if you are only trying to get abs you are undoubtedly doing it as an attempt to get more pussy into your otherwise miserable life and as such will be giving up in the near future.

Atenza6i heh. he said the word "tone" ha ha ha NOT ON THIS BOARD! It kinda goes like this: running you will burn calories while running and shortly there after. LIFTING - wit teh biggah muscles, you will burn calories all day and NIGHT...therefore more fat loss.



6'3 211 @ 15% is not horrible. That's about where I am and you can see some ab-age.

Oh by the way, you're a tool

ACURA TL-S You realize that sitting on your ass you burn anywhere from 1500-God knows how much depending on the person. You have alot to learn, but it doesn't really matter because if you are only trying to get abs you are undoubtedly doing it as an attempt to get more pussy into your otherwise miserable life and as such will be giving up in the near future. great post. abs != pussy at least not any pussy that I'd want..but if you're looking for an STD infected cumrag whore..then go for it

Atenza6i heh. he said the word "tone" I think, and im serious, every single "new" member that started posting in the last month has used the word "tone" in their posts.

IB130lbbagofshit

8 minute abs.

man the nerve on some noobs. my friend came up to me and asked if he could work out with me during spring break. he takes out 1ad pills and says he wants to take them for 2 months and then stop. his exact words were "I want to gain muscle and then just stop working out." I looked at him and didn't even say anything. just left.

Hi, Six pack is the goal here.

Cabage soup cleansing

Cabage soup cleansing

Well folks I started my "cabage soup cleansing" on Monday. Got the regiment from a doctor at the Heart institute here in town. Not doing it to loose weight (I feel I'm right where I should be). I'm just looking to detoxify my system naturaly Just wondering if anyone else on this forum has done this cleansing and how did it work out for you? Ju

i don't believe in that crap

This brings back painful memories

http://forums.offtopic.com/showpost....3&postcount=23

hahaha fuck, my mom and my dad did that shit back in like 1995 and it didnt do shit for them.

i dont see the point. If you want your system cleaned out, go get a colonic cleanse.

Ceaze i don't believe in that crap .

dmaestro hahaha fuck, my mom and my dad did that shit back in like 1995 and it didnt do shit for them. Shit is about all it did for me I did a vege soup one that was tomato based and I didn't shit solid for months after. My gut hasn't been the same since then but I've been told that I have IBS so probably just coincidence that that was the change point.

Cabbage soup diet is, from all I know, absolute crap. So are most detox diets.

Dually noted crew! thanks for the input . Ju

Julu Dually noted crew! thanks for the input . Ju Wow..a perky new poster who didn't go up in flames immediately!

theres a right way to ask questions and a wrong way. We only flame noobs who ask stupid questions and are rude.

Elfling Wow..a perky new poster who didn't go up in flames immediately! LOL. Meh you take the good with the bad. People have to learn not to take things personally sometimes. I asked a question to get feedback, and that's what I got . No one said anything bad about me personally, so it's all good. Now on an new note! I exercise very regularly and during the week eat very healthy. Just wondering what arm exercise with light weights I can do to tone the region around the underarm, where the arm bends (not sure if I'm discribing it correctly ) Ju

Julu LOL. Meh you take the good with the bad. People have to learn not to take things personally sometimes. I asked a question to get feedback, and that's what I got . No one said anything bad about me personally, so it's all good. Now on an new note! I exercise very regularly and during the week eat very healthy. Just wondering what arm exercise with light weights I can do to tone the region around the underarm, where the arm bends (not sure if I'm discribing it correctly ) Ju Hum. Underside of the arm as in..triceps?? Above or below the elbow?

Basically where your armpit folds. I'm doing well with all other regions of my body, tricepts are coming along nicely . Just that little naggin part of the armpit fold

Julu Basically where your armpit folds. I'm doing well with all other regions of my body, tricepts are coming along nicely . Just that little naggin part of the armpit fold Sounds like that's probably more of a body-fat issue?

Well I'm 29, 5'4", 117 pounds and at 17% body fat. but you're most likely right. Just one of those parts I just might have to live with, cause I'm pleased at where I'm at right now... Again thanks for helping ju

Elfling Sounds like that's probably more of a body-fat issue? since genetics and size pretty much determine how a muscle looks, any kind of toning is pretty much a BF issue. The less BF you have covering your muscle, the more 'toned' it looks. just for ref, it sounds like it would be the posterior delt (Pic), teres major (Pic) or teres minor Pic). In which case these exercises might help get them bigger. [url]http://www.exrx.net/Lists/ExList/BackWt.html#anchor125439[url] and [url]http://www.exrx.net/Lists/ExList/ShouldWt.html#anchor1934542[url]

Julu Well I'm 29, 5'4", 117 pounds and at 17% body fat. but you're most likely right. Just one of those parts I just might have to live with, cause I'm pleased at where I'm at right now... Again thanks for helping ju I have those too. I think it is partly due to having narrow shoulders. Instead of the lower outline of my chest going all the way up to my armpits, it stops at the fat folds. Sucks!

Thanks Dragon! The "Arnold Press" looks like something that might be helpful! And Socrates...sucks to be us

Cabage soup cleansing

What are some healthy foods to get at a messican restarount?

What are some healthy foods to get at a messican restarount?

cinco de mayo and all.

40oz margarita pitchers. Nobody goes to eat Mexican on Cinco De Mayo for health reasons.

I was thinking a bucket of coronas, with some shotz, and a couple big ass fat burritos, but I doubt that will be healthy.

screw that, it's cinco de mayo. live it up.

aenz screw that, it's cinco de mayo. live it up. fuk yeah

i get beef fajitas for 2 like once a week from pappasitos...soo damn good

i had a boatload of chile colorado and carne asada for lunch today

Fajita's with no tortillas? Not really healthy, but there's no bread and beans and rice and shit. Just meat and vegetables and oil for the most part. Fuck if I know. Most mexican places will have a salad of some sort.

ENCHILADAS! sp there are no healthy mexican foods

get tacos without the shell, meat or cheese

What are some healthy foods to get at a messican restarount?

Cold Cereal vs. Oatmeal

Cold Cereal vs. Oatmeal

Alright, so here is a good match up. According to the "Diets (The Second Course)" thread, cold cereals are viewed as breakfast candy and oats are beloved. Oats are oats but there are many cold cereals out there. What is the best cold cereal out there? Currently I am eating: Special K: serving size = 1 1/4 cup. 110 cal. 5 g protein. 22 g carbs. 0 g fat. Vector: serving size = 1 1/4 cup. 215 cal. 5.5 g protein. 44 g carbs. 2.8 g fat. This is in comparison to: Instant-Oatmeal Packets Quaker Regular Oatmeal "With 100% Whole Grain Quaker Oats" "No Sugar Added" Serving = 1 pouch (32 g) . 120 cal. 4 g protein. 21 g carbs. 2 g fat. So which one is better?

I"m not sure which one is better. Isn't the cold cereal more simple carbs and the oatmeal complex carbs????

Fruity Pebbles

Not sure about this, but my best guess is that Oatmeal give you a steady insulin release for a longer period of time (making you feel fuller, longer). As for the Vector cereal and such, mostly sugar, which we all know gives you a large insulin spike (not keeping you full for long). Please, someone correct me if i'm wrong...

Gutrat, that's pretty much it. Plus oatmeal has more fiber than most cereals = feel full longer.

More fiber. Plus you can use water + oatmeal instead of milk + cereal

Kashi cereal

Special K is shit and doesnt give you anything. If you have to eat a cereal go with one really high in fibre like Raison Bran. Oatmeal is the best to eat though.

oatmeal>* unless you're just in a cereal mood, in that case cocoa crispies/fruity pebbles>*

superbri007 Kashi heart healthy Kashi cereal or Oatmeal > Special K Special K has no fiber and also has High fructose corn syrup..i used to be addicted to Special K

go_duke21 Special K is shit and doesnt give you anything. If you have to eat a cereal go with one really high in fibre like Raison Bran. Oatmeal is the best to eat though. Another good one is Grape Nuts. But oatmeal > cereal. Oats are one of the purest forms of fiber/carbs, so eat up.

You shouldn't use the oatmeal in packets..that's about as bad as breakfast cereal. Regular, plain minute oats or even regular, plain quick oats would be infinitely better. I put cinnamon and a packet of splenda in mine to make it taste better. EDIT: unless, of course, you do have the packets of true plain oatmeal, no sugar, no nothin added; in which case it's a convenience factor. But it's way cheaper to buy the big cardboard tubs of oatmeal and measure it out yourself.

What do you guys think of Weetabix? Slightly better than most cold cereals?

lucky charms

What about 1 1/4 cups of Total Cereal + skim milk?

I have 1/2 cup of All Bran and 1/2 cup of Skim Milk when I eat cold cereal. 1/2 cup of All Bran has 48% of the daily reccomended Fibre intake on a 2000 Calorie/day diet

niXon I have 1/2 cup of All Bran and 1/2 cup of Skim Milk when I eat cold cereal. 1/2 cup of All Bran has 48% of the daily reccomended Fibre intake on a 2000 Calorie/day diet But how on earth is 1/2 cup of cereal filling?

superbri007 i had 2 bowls of count chocula with marshmellows oh, and I've been eating a cinnamon coffee roll every other day for the past month or so...... my gut is getting huge, time to eat cleaner whats going on here superbri

xpinchx But how on earth is 1/2 cup of cereal filling? Its not thats why you also have 4 eggwhites, mixed with 1 cup of mushrooms or the cereal and 3/4 cup of yogurt.

niXon Its not thats why you also have 4 eggwhites, mixed with 1 cup of mushrooms or the cereal and 3/4 cup of yogurt. .5 cup of oatmeal + a lot of water is more filling.

AznRyda .5 cup of oatmeal + a lot of water is more filling. Have you ever had All Bran ?

niXon Have you ever had All Bran ? Yes, it sucks compared to oatmeal.

niXon Have you ever had All Bran ?

niXon Have you ever had All Bran ? that stuff is horrible

Cold Cereal vs. Oatmeal

Need Help Gaining Weight and Muscle

Need Help Gaining Weight and Muscle

Okay here is my problem I'm a 28 year old male and I'm skinny as all hell. I could pass for 16 probably to be honest. I have tried and tried to gain weight but just can't. I eat and eat and eat and nothing really. I don't really have access to a gym so I have to make do with those weight benches you buy from the store to work out with. This is all good and fine but all it's doing is toning me out not really gaining any mass or muscle. It's downright embarassing to be as skinny as I am and I was curious if anyone knows of any products or excersises or something I can do to get some meat on my bones? I don't want to be like friggin Hulk Hogan or anything but to be in shape and not a twig would be really nice. Thanks for any help you guys can offer without flaming the shit out of me lol.

You THINK you eat a lot. Trust me, I did too. Eat at least 5-6 times a day, REAL food. Chicken, pastas, fish, lots of protein. And you're not going to get big if you don't lift hard. Period. Look around, there are some good writeups. Also, check your PMs

get into competitive eating

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Thanks for the help guys. I really appreciate it.

Fabian You THINK you eat a lot. Trust me, I did too. Eat at least 5-6 times a day, REAL food. Chicken, pastas, fish, lots of protein. And you're not going to get big if you don't lift hard. Period. Look around, there are some good writeups. Also, check your PMs how much muscle gain

strangerthanfiction how much muscle gain A lot man I"m 5'9 weight abotu 120 if that. I need to gain some weight and some muscle. I just u kno a slender man's build but healthy you know?

Need Help Gaining Weight and Muscle