My breakfast *PICS* :noes:

My breakfast *PICS* :noes:

modeling that shit huh?

how many cals? doesnt look like much

that bulk nutrition shaker sucks mad dick

Crappy camera.

wheres the food?

please tell me that OJ and not raw eggs...

My breakfast *PICS* :noes:

Had a fascinating lecture today in Nutrition of Aging class...

Had a fascinating lecture today in Nutrition of Aging class...

We talked about calorie restriction and it's relation to life span. Apparently there are monkeys and mice on restricted calorie diets that live 2-4x longer than regular monkeys. Low cal/high nutrient diet drastically slow down the aging process, but the reasons are unknown. I suggested to my teacher it was because hormones like testosterone and IGF are lower in a caloric deficit, and she didn't even know that happened. You guys heard anything about it? Any opinions, reasons why it exists? I found it a pretty interesting lecture whereas I usually fall asleep in class.

Is it the same study that had monkeys and mice eat only every other day?

I thought it was something about free radicals

similarly why vegans/vegitarians tend to live longer, they consume less calories.

I actually heard about this a year or two ago, but it was people not mice who were experimenting on themselves. Quite frankly, they may live longer but they sounded a bit depressed about having to eat so little. Perhaps less calories=slower metabolism=less work on internal organs and such=longer life?

I was watching Penn & Teller Bullshit the other day, and they had on a guy that was on a big caloric deficit (or at least really low cal)...he was starting to get osteoperosis

I blame it on mcdonald's I blame it all on mcdonald's

i think when one of my profs covered it, he mentioned the reduced reproductive capability on caloric restriction. because energy isn't diverted to reproductive systems, things are easier for the body.

tize who wants to live to 100 anyway i would. if i were healthy.

Werdna We talked about calorie restriction and it's relation to life span. Apparently there are monkeys and mice on restricted calorie diets that live 2-4x longer than regular monkeys. Low cal/high nutrient diet drastically slow down the aging process, but the reasons are unknown. I suggested to my teacher it was because hormones like testosterone and IGF are lower in a caloric deficit, and she didn't even know that happened. You guys heard anything about it? Any opinions, reasons why it exists? I found it a pretty interesting lecture whereas I usually fall asleep in class. The authors of that study should have some discussion on the result

evi1eddie i think when one of my profs covered it, he mentioned the reduced reproductive capability on caloric restriction. because energy isn't diverted to reproductive systems, things are easier for the body. we're going to die sooner if we more? shit i hope I survive into my 30s

Had a fascinating lecture today in Nutrition of Aging class...

GNC Super Whey...

GNC Super Whey...

Is it any good? I am currently taking it. Its some blue berry flavor. It really tastes good. I just take it an hour after working out. It says I should be getting about 40g of protein. Should I take more throughout the day? Thanks for any info.

How much does it cost?

Draco How much does it cost? like $35 for 14 servings (the small tub) but i like the flavor so much, i might go back and buy the big tubs "Mega WheyT combines 40 grams of whey protein per serving with 5 grams of glutamine and 3 grams of branched chain amino acids BCAA. "



deznutz thanks for the input...

i picked some of it last month when GNC was having a big sale... I take it about an hour before my lift and about 30 minutes after... i got the multi berry flavor, or whatever... it was 26 bucks for the 5 pound jug... pretty much the only reason why i got it... i hate GNC

and how much do you way? you should be getting about 1.5-2g's of protein per pound of body weight

MaineSucks and how much do you way? you should be getting about 1.5-2g's of protein per pound of body weight i weigh about 180-185 lbs

illustrious like $35 for 14 servings (the small tub) but i like the flavor so much, i might go back and buy the big tubs " Bleh, way to much $.

Draco Bleh, way to much $. so whats a better alternative?

illustrious so whats a better alternative? optimum nutrition

aenz optimum nutrition dot only reason I bought the GNC whey is that it was on sale... and my parents gave me a GNC gift card for Christmas. I hate GNC. online store = your friend. best tasting protein IMO is ProLab's Advanced Whey... tastes like Chocolate cotton candy and only has 3g's of carbs, only 25g's per scoop, tho and its usually cheap... the Vitamin Shoppe by my house had 5lbs for 26 bucks... bodybuilding.com's store is selling a 2lb jug for 18 right now. do some research on the net, there are so many protein companies/flavors/options out there. trail and error

best times to take are in the morning, since your body is depleted, and after your workout. if the protein is an isolate it will release throughout the day and you can take your whole server in the morning, then one after your workout. if it isnt an isolate you might want to take the servings in a broken up manner. i think the average person can make use of about 25g of protein per hour.

MaineSucks dot only reason I bought the GNC whey is that it was on sale... and my parents gave me a GNC gift card for Christmas. I hate GNC. online store = your friend. best tasting protein IMO is ProLab's Advanced Whey... tastes like Chocolate cotton candy and only has 3g's of carbs, only 25g's per scoop, tho and its usually cheap... the Vitamin Shoppe by my house had 5lbs for 26 bucks... bodybuilding.com's store is selling a 2lb jug for 18 right now. do some research on the net, there are so many protein companies/flavors/options out there. trail and error does the pro lab's advanced whey mix well? this mega whey mixes so well with water, i dont have to add anything at all.

GNC Super Whey...

Hoodia

Hoodia

Just ordered some as a back-up for some serious cutting (thank you Ceaze for teh help)..I'm anxious for it to get here, should be interesting! Day 3 of protein and veggies..I feel surprisingly good!

appetite suppresant

Where did you get it from? Im reading Lyle's crash diet and Ill be starting it Monday. Im gonna need something to kill my hunger. Ive looked at bulk's website and it seems to be getting bad reviews.

bulk nutrition sells it

Ceaze bulk nutrition sells it Bulk's has some pretty bad reviews.

Bromocriptine works better than anything OTC anyway

superbri007 wtf is hoodia? an extract from a south african cactus

People either love it or hate, there is no inbetween. We would offer it caps, but start to cause patent issues if we do that

tize wtf is this guy thats mike, owner of 1fast400

tize i dont believe tis true

It is true.

tize wtf is this guy tize, will you fucking think before you type? shit...

What kind did you get? There is quite a lot of hoodia that's going around that's not what is considered the proper "type."

Hoodia

damn blenders own

damn blenders own

so I drink my shakes usually by mixing them with a spoon, I've thrown up while drinking shakes but I sitll do it to tuff it out, they taste like shit, clunky, etc well today I tried a blender...holy shit, went down smooth and it was good

My shaker bottle went to shit and my roomate had one of these. Alot easier and quicker clean up than a blender. I think I'll just use it from now on.

Abit My shaker bottle went to shit and my roomate had one of these. Alot easier and quicker clean up than a blender. I think I'll just use it from now on. I have a rival

Abit My shaker bottle went to shit and my roomate had one of these. Alot easier and quicker clean up than a blender. I think I'll just use it from now on. I think my gf has one of those? The dolphin or the rabbit?

Abit My shaker bottle went to shit and my roomate had one of these. Alot easier and quicker clean up than a blender. I think I'll just use it from now on. do they use it on their teeth or their pussy?

Mass I think my gf has one of those? The dolphin or the rabbit?

Abit My shaker bottle went to shit and my roomate had one of these. Alot easier and quicker clean up than a blender. I think I'll just use it from now on. Thats the one I have and I love it. Especially the grinding attachment, works great on oats

i plan to pick up a blender today

Get 1 of those Magic bullets from Tv. I been using it for like 9 monthes. The other day it broke and they sent a new one in le a week. They have a lifetime warrenty.

I got one of them...slightly different tho...works great

sounds like too much cleanup on all of those... i usually pound my shakes in about 2 min, quick rinse out my shaker and go.

deznutz did it have the word pocket in it?

Mass I think my gf has one of those? The dolphin or the rabbit? my g/f bought her sister a dolphin for x-mas

Looks like a corndog stick to me!

AznRyda Looks like a corndog stick to me! yea, wtf?

WTF is that?

yeah i don't understand why everyone doesn't use a blender. i got one for $20, one the best purchases i've made. It takes seconds to clean too if you have one of those hand-spray things in your sink.

meh. i have a nalgene bottle. get water from the refrigerator dispenser, measure to 12oz on the side markings, 2 scoops on whey, close, shake, chug, rinse, done. easy enough for me.

J Shmoke WTF is that? .

i have a cuisinart

Ceaze i have a cuisinart my mom uses those to cut up ingredients for the korean foods she makes...like pine nut and vinegar sauce for jellyfish, or spinach or carrots. that thing is huge... over kill for a few ounces of a proteinshake?

sounds like the picture used to be that of a vibrator... and then got edited to a picture of a corndog stick =) i just use this cheapo shaker cup that i got from bulk nutrition.

ACURA TL-S I have a rival that skinny stick is your rival? owned

Atenza6i my mom uses those to cut up ingredients for the korean foods she makes...like pine nut and vinegar sauce for jellyfish, or spinach or carrots. that thing is huge... over kill for a few ounces of a proteinshake? I used to bust out the blender each time i wanted a shake, now i just grab the shaker, pour in water, powder, maybe a strawberry or two and shake the hell out of it

i have never used a blender for a shake. i do use a coffee grinder for my oats though

damn blenders own

thinking about starting an ECY stack V.11tybillion repost i know

thinking about starting an ECY stack V.11tybillion repost i know

I know it's a topic here every day but i wanted to get some advice. I'm doing good with my cut but would like to do better. :impatient: I think i have my diet done pretty well. im getting 2000-2500 cal a day 200-300g protein and about 70%/30% carbs/fat. I lift MWTF and 7 days befor i hit the same groop cardio on that days off and nothing on sunday, i also cheat for sunday dinners. is the stack going to help me alot of am i doing enough as is? again im happy with the results but if the stack is going to speed it up considerably ill try it. what do ya guys think? clifffs for the lazy: my diet/workout is good, is the stack worth it?

im saying if im getting my 2-3 pounds a week, is this going to increase that by any real amount?

Demize im saying if im getting my 2-3 pounds a week, is this going to increase that by any real amount? 2-3 pounds sounds a bit ghigh, the ECY does not burn the fat so much as it decreases hunger...

i think ill try it for a cycle. so what should i get? id like to go with most pure shit. links to products PLEASE

wtf dude

Demize i think ill try it for a cycle. so what should i get? id like to go with most pure shit. links to products PLEASE i went with vasapro, Mistich recomended it, alot of people are out of it ATM, I went with yohimbine from bulk nutrition, and cafiene from them aswell.

Demize i think ill try it for a cycle. so what should i get? id like to go with most pure shit. links to products PLEASE Clcik here



Demize I know it's a topic here every day but i wanted to get some advice. I'm doing good with my cut but would like to do better. :impatient: I think i have my diet done pretty well. im getting 2000-2500 cal a day 200-300g protein and about 70%/30% carbs/fat. I lift MWTF and 7 days befor i hit the same groop cardio on that days off and nothing on sunday, i also cheat for sunday dinners. is the stack going to help me alot of am i doing enough as is? again im happy with the results but if the stack is going to speed it up considerably ill try it. what do ya guys think? o clifffs for the lazy: my diet/workout is good, is the stack worth it? How much do you weigh? How much carbs and how much fat do you have per day?



I think you need more fats in your diet. Too much protein.

well i ate some pizza today lol weight= 190

just stick with your diet..

Neo22 I think you need more fats in your diet. Too much protein. I don't think he has *too much* protein at all.

should i do some e just to get bonkers on the weights once a week? one week i go bonkers on arms/abs next week legs etc ect. @ once a week will i build a tolerance?

i love teh protein, eat some raw eggs and red meat, flip out and kill some weight!

GilgaMesH I don't think he has *too much* protein at all. Compared to his fats and carbs he does.

Neo22 I think you need more fats in your diet. Too much protein. he's right, this will be an unsuccessful cut without dietary changes. you may find that you end up with less lbm/fat mass. according to your fitday log, your ratios are 10%fat, 27%carb, and 63% protein. if you're adding protein powder on top of that, the ratios are more skewed with way too much protein. you need more carbs and fat if you want to lose fat instead of muscle. even with that much protein, your body will be burning it as the primary fuel instead of releasing fat to burn.

i think you're asking for low blood sugar problems and i'd be surprised if you can maintain your current lbm thru this cut with the thermo

Well today im going to add some home made cookeis to my diet infact im eating one right now! would adding some friut and nut throughout the day get my carb/fat levels where they should be?

Demize Well today im going to add some home made cookeis to my diet infact im eating one right now! would adding some friut and nut throughout the day get my carb/fat levels where they should be? I'd go for between 60-80g of fat daily. YOU need fat when you are cutting. It should be around 25% of your intake.

vettedude 2-3 pounds sounds a bit ghigh, the ECY does not burn the fat so much as it decreases hunger... it increases lipolysis

Ceaze it increases lipolysis

Neo22 I'd go for between 60-80g of fat daily. YOU need fat when you are cutting. It should be around 25% of your intake. are you serious? for women too? i'm taking lipo 6 and i've been more concious about eating more protein and cals...but i'm still trying to cut down on my carbs/ fat. is this wrong? god im so confused

BrickTamland i started it today im pretty fucking jittery from the last 200mg of caffeine but i'm supposed to take another 200mg with ephedrine now give it a few days. my first day i was cracked out. now i can feel the energy, but i dont feel the sides at all.

thinking about starting an ECY stack V.11tybillion repost i know

Bulk Nutrition is having a sale

Bulk Nutrition is having a sale

1fast400 These should start sunday. If we can hit the next price teir on these items these prices will remain constant. AAKG 1000g 59.99 200g 14.99 phenibut 15.99 30g 39.99 100g 170.00 500g CM 75g 9.99 200g 19.99 500g 44.99 CEE 5.99 100g 19.99 500g 34.99 1000g ALCAR 6.99 75g 24.99 500g 47.99 1000g BCAA's 22.99 500g bcaa/cm combo 29.99 (500g+75g cm) gaba 4.99 100g evodimine 24.99 25g .

Get some CEE..

Creatine Ethyl Ester

Phenibut!

Thanks for the post, I've been thinking about trying their ALCAR. ALCAR is Acetyl-L-carnitine may help with fat loss boost energy help with memory and concentration. May being the operative word. I've been taking 500 mg a day and do seem to notice some differences.

Bulk Nutrition is having a sale

lets talk Jerky

lets talk Jerky

I'm trying to eat real clean right now and was wondering how bad jerky is for you. I know its a great source of protein, but how loaded with sodium is it? Is it somthing I can incoropate into my diet every day? or a treat? Also, over at www.smokedmeats.com where I order, they have salmon jerky, any dietary info on that?

Usually a lot of sodium. Look up the nutritional info.

I'm no jerky-ologist but I believe smoked jerky has less sodium than your traditional cured jerky.

it's pretty salty

Beef jerky is an awesome snack. The salmon jerky probably has similar nutrition content, maybe a tiny bit less fat (beef jerky doesn't have much to begin with).

what?

damn $34 a lb? i thought the 4 oz bags for 5 bucks was expensive too. i love beef jerkey, i dont give a fuck about sodium either but i can't afford it

Just get a dehydrater and make your own. Tastes alot better and probably ALOT better for you.

tize make your own, i did it once very easy and tastes so good is that post in the archives?

lets talk Jerky

One of the best workouts I've ever tried

One of the best workouts I've ever tried

I just started Bas Rutten's Mixed Martial Arts work out and it is amazing. I want my workouts to be a challenge everytime, and this one is. When watching the instructional DVD it didn't seem like it would kill me as much as it did. I suggest you all check it out, www.basrutten.tv

I've come close to buying many times, I already have a fairly structured workout so maybe when I make some changes. I've heard only great reviews from it

You too huh? I uh "purchased" it myself and it kicks my ass. Even the 2 minute rounds are killing me, and I'm only doing the boxing/thai boxing routines at this point. The all around fighting workout is HARDCORE.

I'm getting seriously tired of your bullshit, cut it out or I will definitely fuck you up.

I get to have a 2 time iranian pancrase champion /former olympic wrestler yell at me during conditioning- at least in the rutten tapes you can cheat and take a rest

they make you do pretty hard stuff for martial arts. this week just to warm up it was holding a med ball over your head and then hopping in a squat about 60ft. everyone was dead by 30ft and we've done this lots of times before

cavefish I'm getting seriously tired of your bullshit, cut it out or I will definitely fuck you up. thats great

Aluyminyum they make you do pretty hard stuff for martial arts. this week just to warm up it was holding a med ball over your head and then hopping in a squat about 60ft. everyone was dead by 30ft and we've done this lots of times before todays training: warm up/stretch/etc. 14 rounds- 3 minutes each, 15 seconds in between Rounds 1-2 = shadow boxing Rounds 3-6 = bag work Rounds 7-10 = pad work Round 11 = sprints w/stepping Round 12 = sprints w/shuffleing Round 13 = jump rope w/knee ups Round 14 = Jump rope w/single leg (5 on each leg) Then 45 minute non-stop "road work" consisting of: Jogging, reverse jogging, sprinting, shuffle in/outward, sidestep in/outward, bear crawls, crab walks, toe ins, toe outs, hops (feet together), zig-zag inward/outward all around the room, never stopping - clockwise then counter clockwise... then jog to the center and 15 more minutes of: Front/back, side to side, switch hips, quick steps, dive bombers, mountain climbers, hops (in place). My legs hurt

cavefish You too huh? I uh "purchased" it myself E. link?

joy division todays training: My legs hurt you should start a training log http://forums.offtopic.com/forumdisp...ysprune=&f=147

velamint you should start a training log http://forums.offtopic.com/forumdisp...ysprune=&f=147 Kind of impossible to recreate it in a thread on account of our trainer tells us when to do things, its always timed...also alot of the lifts/movements require proper form that you don't want to attempt without being shown but... for example the strength training day is all oly lifts with special weights (one handed); snatch/press/cleans/etc. etc....then there are things like slaloms and turkish getups which have multiple steps to them and are really hard to explain.

I wish there was an mma gym around here...although when I'm not injured any more I'd like to start taking bjj and boxing

yeah I've never seen any place that was so serious about conditioning. Classes are at least 3 hours long, 3 times a week. It takes lots of dedication

joy division Damn! That's a pretty serious routine. How long have you been training? I'm just now making the switch from boxing to MMA.

thats intense. 3 hours, you better be sore!

illmatix Damn! That's a pretty serious routine. How long have you been training? I'm just now making the switch from boxing to MMA. I trained for over a year at the same place back in 2003-2004. I just started up again in january of this year after taking time off for school/work/personal deals. Yeah soreness pretty much rocks me if I don't get proper sleep and nutrition- the trainer makes us go to a nutrition class and we have to set up our own diet. Right now I'm eating ~380g carbs, ~230g protein and ~67g fats.

One of the best workouts I've ever tried

Ab help w/newcomer

Ab help w/newcomer

Ive just recently started lifting and brought back my running routine (going on 3 weeks of progress now). I was dormant from the health/fitness routine for about 2 years. Im naturally predisposed to being an athletically built guy, but it seems that even though im down to 166lbs, I cant get my abs back into the shape they once were. Here is a pic of what they look like now. They can be more defined if I flex, but in thier natural state they seem a bit flabby. Im eating about 3k cal per day, working out mildly and downing about 150g of protein. Im not looking to gain alot of muscle mass, but some gains are good. I havent been cutting at all. Is there a good way to get larger abs instead of just losing the weight around them to show them more? On to the pics number 1 show the place that has some def. and good strength (natrual state in pics) Number 2 show area that is flabby and soft. No matter how much I run or how many forms of situps I do, I cant get muscel to form there. Any thoughts?

your abs ahve fat over them, you want em to be more "defined" you are going to have to loose weight, wich is not gonna happen on 3k cals a day.

vettedude your abs ahve fat over them, you want em to be more "defined" you are going to have to loose weight, wich is not gonna happen on 3k cals a day. cal suggestion for a 166lbs 22 year old who works out the basic muscle groups every day? Run about 2 miles ever other day, too. I know you guys are far more informed than I, and im open to suggestions.

notstock93 cal suggestion for a 166lbs 22 year old who works out the basic muscle groups every day? Run about 2 miles ever other day, too. I know you guys are far more informed than I, and im open to suggestions. i suggest reading those majic posts at the top of the forum labbeled stickies and deleating this thread before you get flamed to death, and scared away. or just e-mail that guy named christophers, a hoby of his is making routines and giving out dietign advice, he obnly answers PM's as he is too bussy to post.

vettedude i suggest reading those majic posts at the top of the forum labbeled stickies and deleating this thread before you get flamed to death, and scared away. or just e-mail that guy named christophers, a hoby of his is making routines and giving out dietign advice, he obnly answers PM's as he is too bussy to post. well, I searched under abs, and the threads above deal with general nutrition (which are fantastic threads, BTW) but they are geared more towards the hardcore F&N guy. at any rate, I read the fat loss guide, but im getting conflicting stories from other nutritionists (I work at a gym) about the cal intake.They say 3k calorie intake is pretty much the max for an active guy looking to lose weight, this forum says 11-12x your body waight (no more than 1,900-ish cals for me) Thats why I asked. No need to get hostile. Im already getting everything else pretty much right in that guide (sans a few grams of protein)

notstock93 well, I searched under abs, and the threads above deal with general nutrition (which are fantastic threads, BTW) but they are geared more towards the hardcore F&N guy. at any rate, I read the fat loss guide, but im getting conflicting stories from other nutritionists (I work at a gym) about the cal intake.They say 3k calorie intake is pretty much the max for an active guy looking to lose weight, this forum says 11-12x your body waight (no more than 1,900-ish cals for me) Thats why I asked. No need to get hostile. Im already getting everything else pretty much right in that guide (sans a few grams of protein) uhh well, there stuff is not working, i dont really see how anything up there is hardcore, it is all pretty straitforward and applies to anyone. Your "friends" dont know what they are talkign about.

vettedude uhh well, there stuff is not working, i dont really see how anything up there is hardcore, it is all pretty straitforward and applies to anyone. Your "friends" dont know what they are talkign about. Alright, I didnt post here to for you to condescend to me. I hear one thing, I read another. Just wanted some advice, not someone telling me that its not working. I have a hard time beleiving things that I read on the net and just wanted some informed suggestions.

vettedude is pretty much right. the bottom line here is nothing about your abs, its about the layer of fat over them. now what you knwo you need to do is lose fat, and if you look on the main page it says "Sticky: want to lose fat? L I F T W E I G H T S" and "Sticky: Basic Newb Guide to Fat Loss" so obviously thats where you'd look. if you actually read it you'd know it has everything you need to know and you wouldnt be making this thread

notstock93 well, I searched under abs, and the threads above deal with general nutrition (which are fantastic threads, BTW) but they are geared more towards the hardcore F&N guy. at any rate, I read the fat loss guide, but im getting conflicting stories from other nutritionists (I work at a gym) about the cal intake.They say 3k calorie intake is pretty much the max for an active guy looking to lose weight, this forum says 11-12x your body waight (no more than 1,900-ish cals for me) Thats why I asked. No need to get hostile. Im already getting everything else pretty much right in that guide (sans a few grams of protein) well think about that for a second. does it make sense that a flat amount of 3000 calories would be some kind of special fat-loss limit for any active guy? Why would the numbers be the same for someone who is 150lbs vs someone who is 250? Your calorie requirements are based on your size, and then fine-tuned based on your genetics. So you start at 11-12x bodyweight, track your results, and adjust up or down from there.

Chris3G well think about that for a second. does it make sense that a flat amount of 3000 calories would be some kind of special fat-loss limit for any active guy? Why would the numbers be the same for someone who is 150lbs vs someone who is 250? Your calorie requirements are based on your size, and then fine-tuned based on your genetics. So you start at 11-12x bodyweight, track your results, and adjust up or down from there. THAT is the kind of answer that makes sense to me. I have no nutritional background, so the things that are painfully obvious to everyone here dont even occur to me. Thank you very much for helping me see. Im going to start on a 1,900 cal/day diet and continue my current "mild" routine.

you could crank up that "mild" routine to "vigorous" and burn more calories!

ryazbeck you could crank up that "mild" routine to "vigorous" and burn more calories! I may do that, but right now im audtioning for a part that requires me to not be overtly athletic looking. I don't want to endanger my chances of landing a part if I can help it.

Ab help w/newcomer

Is this diet even going to do anything for me?

Is this diet even going to do anything for me?

I am currently 162 lbs about 6'1" and fed up with it. So I am fully commited to put some weight on. I have tried before, I lifted for 8 months really hard, I got stronger, but only a couple pounds bigger, I'm hoping because I never really added to my diet. So here is what I'm starting on now: Morning:25g protien shake 25g can of chicken breast Oatmeal or cream of wheat, a bagel, some fruit, whatever the caffeteria has Lunch:Whatever school is serving, usually a decent meal, hamurger or something. Dinner:Again whatever school is serving, pasta, pizza, chicken, whatever it is I can eat a lot of it. 50g protien shake Obviously I will be lifting throughout the week, I feel I have a good workout that gets my full upper body and some legs throughout the week. I am not worried about putting on fat, in fact I would welcome a few % more body fat. So if anyone has anymore suggestions on what I should be doing that would be great. Thanks for the help.

If you wanna gain weight stop eating like a pussy and start downing more than 2000 calories.

I'm pretty sure I get more than 2,000 a day. I eat tons for dinner, but thats really the only time I can eat till I can't eat anymore.

If you're a hardgainer you may have to take up to 4000-7000 calories a day, depends on your metabolism, start your calories out at 3500-4000 and eat that amount for a week and see if you gain any weight, if you dont, add another 500 everyday for another week and repeat the process until you start gaining, it ain't rocket surgery

Wow, 3 meals a day... try 6 or 7 full course meals.

That's a great meal plan for losing weight

http://forums.offtopic.com/showthrea...hreadid=699488

Well its hard while living on a school campus. I have about 35 hours of classes a week, no fridge, and minimal food storage. I'm eating everything in sight though. I figure I'm doing about 3500 every day this last week. I just don't know what to eat, besides massive amounts of PB&J sandwiches.

...i'm pretty sure I'm no expert in bulking(trying to cut) but eat anything and everything...you're trying to get BIGGER...go stuff your mouth with burgers or something?

FlameBox Well its hard while living on a school campus. I have about 35 hours of classes a week, no fridge, and minimal food storage. I'm eating everything in sight though. I figure I'm doing about 3500 every day this last week. I just don't know what to eat, besides massive amounts of PB&J sandwiches. unless you have been counting calories for a while you dont have an accurate gauge as to "how many calories you ate." believe me, its very easy to stuff your face multiple times a day and be barely breaking 2k calories. find nutrition labels, get on fitday, whatever you have to do in order to track caloric intake. get familiar with the nutrition content of foods you eat daily and keep a list. gaining weight can be laborious but if you put in the time you will see results. good luck!

35hrs of class? How? How many credits is that? You are going to need to eat a lot more than that. Buy canned foods and keep your room stocked. If you want it bad enough you will make it work.

Going to school? Get a George Foreman grill and a membership to Costco. Boneless, Skinless chick breasts are you friend. While you're at it get some burgers, too.

do you feel hungry at any time of the day? if so, you could be eating more

xpinchx Going to school? Get a George Foreman grill and a membership to Costco. Boneless, Skinless chick breasts are you friend. While you're at it get some burgers, too. Like I said, no fridge room, so that means no freezer room. No where to even use a grill. But thanks for the help guys, I got some good ideas on what to be working on now.

FlameBox Like I said, no fridge room, so that means no freezer room. No where to even use a grill. But thanks for the help guys, I got some good ideas on what to be working on now. George Forman grill...Its tiny.

FlameBox Like I said, no fridge room, so that means no freezer room. No where to even use a grill. But thanks for the help guys, I got some good ideas on what to be working on now. can you take extra food fro the cafeteria? i mean say you go at lunch...eat alot..and take a plate to go for your next meal. then t dinner eat alot..and take another plate to go.

FlameBox Like I said, no fridge room, so that means no freezer room. No where to even use a grill. But thanks for the help guys, I got some good ideas on what to be working on now. You can get a moderate-sized Foreman Grill for around $10-$15 that will easily fit anywhere in your dorm. You can cook your shit on your computer desk if you want to. As for no room for a fridge, just how small is your dorm? Pics? IMO that would be most beneficial for you if you could eat in your dorm. It'd be better than the crap they serve at the cafeteria. Probably cheaper, too, but I don't really know.

Is this diet even going to do anything for me?

Good place to buy whey protein near Toronto/Guelph/Waterloo?

Good place to buy whey protein near Toronto/Guelph/Waterloo?

I don't want to buy my protein online, and I would like to get some ON Whey protein. I live in Guelph, but everywhere I look has other brands. I think I might get some Muscle Milk (, for taste) and some ON Whey...if I can find it. Any help?

? http://www.supplementscanada.com/pop...ein_mixed.html

Sport Nutrition Depot has ON whey. I dunno about prices though.

Sports Nutrition Depot in Waterloo. $41.99 canadian for a 5lb tub of ON whey

the internet?

Maestro Nobones the internet? hes anti internet.

ryazbeck hes anti internet. and yet he poses this question on an internet message board. the mind boggles.

Maybe he doesn't want to pay online.

timberwolf Maybe he doesn't want to pay online. oh you mean he has that paranoia thats like so 5 years ago?

ryazbeck oh you mean he has that paranoia thats like so 5 years ago? Actually saw on the news that many still are. Or maybe he doesn't have his own credit card. Though there is paypal though you still need a credit card to create an account.

yea, i work tech support for dial up and DSL and the only people dumb enough to call are the ones who still live out in the woods, hardcore rednecks and hicks and shit. they think there are hackers running rampant trying to access their computer and that they are stealing all their information from their computers etc. oh yeah, old people, ollllld.

Yeah, sport nutrition depot is where I get my stuff...it has the best prices that I could find.

timberwolf Or maybe he doesn't have his own credit card. Though there is paypal though you still need a credit card to create an account. Bingo. edit: and I'm not "anti-internet" , ryazbeck besides, even if I could buy online, I'd still probably buy locally unless I could get really good savings online

there's a SND warehouse in the plaza right beside U Waterloo campus

online is the way to go for cheapest prices.

Good place to buy whey protein near Toronto/Guelph/Waterloo?

New CEE?

New CEE?

I just got my new batch of CEE from 1Fast and this one tastes A LOT different. My last batch was REALLY salty, this batch is REALLY bitter. Two totally different tastes. Both still taste like shit. Anyone else experience this also?

Yup our new material is the shit. They are perfecting the process of making this stuff, finally. That begins to happen when you order enormous amounts (we source for others as well). We explained to them how ass tasting the first batches were and that we had to fix that in order to continue growth

My kilo from custom nutrition warehouse taste sour as hell. nasty shit.

IbOJ

Mine taste like lemonade.

superbri007 discount please uhhh he just dropped the price and yeah there is a noticeable difference between the first batch i got from 1Fast and the recent stuff

I don't feel like starting another thread. How many grams of CEE do you guys take a day?

iCe I don't feel like starting another thread. How many grams of CEE do you guys take a day? 1 teaspoon twice a day

New CEE?

I can't gain weight

I can't gain weight

I'm 5'10 130ish but i've lost 20 pounds since the summer. I can't put on weight. My waist is size 28 and my figure is enviable by some females. I've tried supplements and they have worked but i'm now somewhat intolerant to milk, so that rules out my old stash. Is it something to do with my weird metabolism? I'm 23, Asian, everyone in my family is not overweight. My diet has a decent amount of carbs as we rotate western/eastern style meals on a daily basis. I can binge eat like a mad man and gain next to nothing. See nutrition specialist?

meet or beat this everyday for a month. You'll gain at least 5 lb by the end of the month. Do it for a year and you'll be at 200lb this time 2006.

if you want it bad enough, you'll eat enough to meet your goals

You'd be surprised what you can put in a blender, but whatever you do, don't try to put a Powerbar in there. I swear to god the blender was about to explode. http://home.earthlink.net/~hardgainer/

I'm 5'8 and i started at 130...(Last fall) I started working out maybe 2 months ago. And if anything (im 145 now.) The best way to gain weight is to eat a LOT. Eat eat eat. And Lift. LIFT HEAVY WEIGHTS. Try to limit cardio as much as possible.

how in the shitfuck did you lose 20 lbs from 150 at 5'10?

If *I* can gain weight, anyone can. 6'2 135 - 6'2 170 in 5 months. Granted I lost it all when I got mono, that's still a lot of weight. If you want a mental image, I looked like a holocaust victim before I manned up and started eating (in addition to the lifting that wasnt doing me any good until i hit a caloric surplus)

you can gain weight /thread and possibly yourself

sr20wop you can gain wight /thread and possibly yourself

KetchupKing meet or beat this everyday for a month. You'll gain at least 5 lb by the end of the month. Do it for a year and you'll be at 200lb this time 2006. It'll take a while to get to this, but eat slightly more every day and you'll work your way up to being able to eat that much.

you saying if you eat quarter pounders with supersized french fries 3 times a day with a large milk shake on the side you won't gain any weight? I'd fucking kill to be in your position.

SpicyMcVoodoo you saying if you eat quarter pounders with supersized french fries 3 times a day with a large milk shake on the side you won't gain any weight? I'd fucking kill to be in your position. i'd fucking kill to not be in my position

eat a 5 pound plate you'll gain 5 pounds

I've eaten 4 pounds of food in one sitting before... weight did not change in the morning

i know how he's feeling. but still gotta eat. eat lots, lift big, get big.

When I was in HS (all 4 years) I weighed a steady 110 pounds. I HATED it, I was painfully skinny and it actually would get me into trouble (they thought I had an eating disorder ) I tried everything, even that weight gainer powder drink and drinking ensure Unfortunately I never managed to gain any weight by these methods. I eventually gained weight when I was married and got knocked up My metabolism just finally slowed down. (funny thing is, that's how I knew i was preg- I gained 10 pounds in the first month and it tipped me off that something was going on) I honestly worried that I had a mild thyroid disorder and my doctor had even suggested it at one time. I certainly hope this isn't the case but you may want to have it looked into. Good luck and don't get knocked up!

Phlab If you want a mental image, I looked like a holocaust victim that sums up what I looked like at 110 pounds and 5'8". I don't look healthy under 125.

oh, and you sound just like my little brother. he looks like noXens before pic If you figure out how to do it, let me know so I can pass the info along

yogfx seems to be the only person to have said it... Eat more, and then eat more after that, do this consistently and you will gain weight.

I know this is not a popular choice, and rightfully so... But have you looked into weight gainers? They aren't the healthiest thing out there for you but they certainly do work. Being a slave of corporate America when bulking I resort to those (along with other stuff) to help me put on weight. Just recently I went from about 134 to 150 in about 2 month using heavyweight 900 instead of protein.

ChosenGSR I know this is not a popular choice, and rightfully so... But have you looked into weight gainers? They aren't the healthiest thing out there for you but they certainly do work. Being a slave of corporate America when bulking I resort to those (along with other stuff) to help me put on weight. Just recently I went from about 134 to 150 in about 2 month using heavyweight 900 instead of protein. Weight gainers aren't necessary IMO. From ALL the threads in F&N, I'm surprised not many people just post here and just say EAT. That's all he has to do. The #2 piece of advice here (#1 being DL and Squat) is to fucking EAT. SO JUST EAT. Thats ALL. EAT EAT EAT BABIES, CHICKENS, DOGS, CATS, anything that you can possibly eat. (But try to eat clean...) edit: you say you can binge eat. Well binge eat 5 times a day. Hit the weights 4 times a week. Do little to NO Cardio. And stay disciplined and motivated. Stick to your schedule and don't cheat. There is no easy way to bulk if youre like a super ectomorph....

y0gfx Weight gainers aren't necessary IMO. From ALL the threads in F&N, I'm surprised not many people just post here and just say EAT. That's all he has to do. The #2 piece of advice here (#1 being DL and Squat) is to fucking EAT. SO JUST EAT. Thats ALL. EAT EAT EAT BABIES, CHICKENS, DOGS, CATS, anything that you can possibly eat. (But try to eat clean...) edit: you say you can binge eat. Well binge eat 5 times a day. Hit the weights 4 times a week. Do little to NO Cardio. And stay disciplined and motivated. Stick to your schedule and don't cheat. There is no easy way to bulk if youre like a super ectomorph.... I completely agree with you, however certain schedules do not give you the ability to eat 24/7 as required when bulking I spend 8-9 hours at work and about 2-3 hours on the road each day, so having a shake with me helped me big time to pack on some weight. Again, I am not pushing the idea of weight gainers. Just give him some food for thought. I know I wouldn't of been able to do without, not with my schedule

superbri007 anyone advocating the use of N02 can suck my wang

I've also had a very tough time gaining weight. fOr while I thought if I just took steroids I could gain. But really it just takes willpower to be dedicated. I eat till I am completely full. wait an hour or something then lift heavy. WAit a day or two...do again. In the meantime I take Enlarge2 shakes in between meals, meal replacement shakes as snacks, and I eat huge portions. when you get that totally stuffed feeling your metabolism actually slows down a bit. Mine is always through the roof. Try to eat a few big meals instead of many small meals. many small meals keeps your metabo up. And do less reps, more weight for muscle gain. Im fairly new to lifting but IVe found that this method really helps me to gain weight. My jeans are almost too tight to wear now, which is crazy, a few months ago they would fall off me.

KetchupKing meet or beat this everyday for a month. You'll gain at least 5 lb by the end of the month. Do it for a year and you'll be at 200lb this time 2006. Very, very true. If you're lifting to gain muscle, your diet should contain: 59% Carbs, 28% fats, and 13% proteins. KetchupKing is pretty much correct. Also, try drinking half a gallon of whole milk per day. (I have heard GREAT things from this.)

I can't gain weight

Bulk Nutrition = 1Fast400?

Bulk Nutrition = 1Fast400?

Are these the same company/website? Im sure this has been covered before but couldnt find anything referencing it when I searched.

nope two different companys BN copied 1fast I think they are in the middle of a lawsuit about it now

DCCapen WTF? STFU What would you know about suppliments? Do you even workout

order from 1fast400, the people at bulk nutrition are dicks

DCCapen actually yes I do, and I know all I personally need about them The point in the post was that they are the same company. I almost doubted myself for a min until I double checked the log history at the site and the owner.

Jeff Coleman order from 1fast400, the people at bulk nutrition are dicks ripping off 1fast like that

i just read like 10 pposts a few hours ago about this shit

DCCapen And here Jeg was, just being facetious, I thought he was just a moron. I'm a little bit of each

Jeg



1fast it is then, thanks for the replies



Um, same company.

I ordered from 1fast400 and they sent me a free bulk nutrition t-shirt...

dingo I ordered from 1fast400 and they sent me a free bulk nutrition t-shirt... theyre sending me a free gym bag

I'm both, I guess I have identity problems

1Fast400 I'm both, I guess I have identity problems

Bulk Nutrition = 1Fast400?

Bulk Nutrition Customers

Bulk Nutrition Customers

Is there a possibilty that they threw in a free mixer? I want one

FrozynFyre Is there a possibilty that they threw in a free mixer? I want one yes, i always got free shakers

Always gotten free shakers but I just use them as cups

i usually get free ones and give them to friends because they leak everywhere. Out of the 5 or 6 shakers i have gotten, all of them have leaked

Jeff Coleman i usually get free ones and give them to friends because they leak everywhere. Out of the 5 or 6 shakers i have gotten, all of them have leaked where did you get a good one at

http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=857 look at the first bullet

it works the first time but then the rubber seal usually falls out

man I wanted one taht would work more than once

Just go to wal mart and buy a shaker. I just use an old slim fast one

KLoWnPR109 Just go to wal mart and buy a shaker. I just use an old slim fast one I will just use this special blender shake thing that fits into cups and mixes it there thats if the shaker doesnt last

i actually use the tornado blender when i have to take protein with me http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=20679

SpeedyGST i actually use the tornado blender when i have to take protein with me http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=20679 are you serious

FrozynFyre are you serious surprisingly? yes.

SpeedyGST surprisingly? yes. does it work?

FrozynFyre does it work? it works perfect for my ON whey, but some of the thicker protein mixes it does struggle a bit.

and how much liquid can it hold?

princess0fdiabl0 and how much liquid can it hold? the one i have holds around 12oz of water and comes with an ac adapter...i got it at walmart for less than 10$

tize i think u gotta get protein powder and put OT in comments No, they just give whenever they have in stock.

hopefully they threw in a t-shirt on my last order

Everyone rips on the shakers... I use them all the time. If you take the rubber seal out and be sure to screw the top on right they don't leak at all. I use 6 of them this way and none of them leak.

just screw on extra tight, always works for me

took me about 15 minutes to get the rubber seal back in mine, since then no problems... /shrug.

am i the only one that figured out u can mix whey easily with a wire wisk in a normal cup? i hate washing shaker cups or the blender so if im at home thats what i do. works like a charm.

Bulk Nutrition Customers

Best brand of protein to buy for the money... and where?

Best brand of protein to buy for the money... and where?

need to buy more protein... where should i buy it and what type should i buy?

Vitamin world brand is cheap and tastes good. 17g/scoop i do two scoops.

I use ISOXP Chocolate formula, 45g protein/50g scoop, tastes great, average price for protein in my city.

look into optimum nutrition its pretty much the preferred brand on here because it is cheap and has a fair amount of protein per serving 23g if I'm not mistaken. I have the 10lb bag right now

www.allthewhey.com

ON 10lb bag>* It tastes so good. Once it hits your lips

ON 100% whey is pretty decent, can't beat the price really massnutrition.com has it for the cheapest I've seen, though I prefer to order with 1fast400.com

can you get ON stuff at local nutrition stores?

XsLiCk can you get ON stuff at local nutrition stores? Yes but it is a rip off there. I saw the 5lb ON 100% at GNC for $49 You can get a 10lb for cheaper @ 1fast400

I buy my ON 100% at 1fast400 its like $25 or something

5lb ON @ Vitamin Shoppe right now for $30

5lb ON is like $30 at vitamin shoppe. It's good as far as price and protein content but it tastes terrible compared to the Designer that i used to use.

I wish people would listen to me about ABB Pure Pro, it's fucking great, no clumps in a shaker and mixes great with water. http://nutripeak.com/abbpuprowhpr.html 2 scoops = teh win

ON is the best ive ever had

ON is pretty good compared to the rest, price wise and taste wise. I normally buy 2 tubs of protein, one tub is usually Muscle Milk for home. The other tub I keep at work, and I usually try something different.

before black star labs turned all nazi, they were the best deal and had the best whey *sigh

I like "justwhey" but it really isn't cheap comparatively, I'm getting my shipment of ON today so I'll let you know if it sucks

I bought a 5lb tube of EAS Myopro Strawberry for $21 off www.dpsnutrition.com 2 weeks ago - 22g/scoop

I just switched to Chicago Nutritions protein and really like it and was taking Beverly before that. I buy everything local just because the guy is a really good guy. I pay about 30 bucks for 2.5lbs on average. I know that is really more than I could get online but well I like to support the locals.

Mass before black star labs turned all nazi, they were the best deal and had the best whey *sigh you can just order from trueprotein.com with the BSL flavoring

10lb bag ON protein from 1fast400.com

For any of you british guys head over too www.myprotein.co.uk They sell flavourless (no additives, just 100% whey) whey at 70%, 80% or just isolate. You can choose to add additives but I choose not too cos it's healthier (ibGayHomo) plus it really does'nt taste bad at all, like a fairly barky and rough vanilla flavour. They also sell tons of other supplements and if you buy in bulk (over £50) and it's a bulk discount item then you get 10% off. I get all my whey from there (I get 80% cos I'm a cheap bastard) God I sound like a sales clerk

cbrpimp i paid 24.00 for a 5lb at vitamin shoppe as part of their monthly special I saw it on monday at that price. GNC pisses me off.

www.apexfitness.com has the best tasting protein shakes EVER. You don't even know. They are thick and omg goodness. Unfortunately my gym stopped saling them, so until my debit card comes, I am using Muscle Milk. I can order things online with a debit card, right?

Ceaze you can just order from trueprotein.com with the BSL flavoring hollaaaaaaaa i dont use any other protein

Best brand of protein to buy for the money... and where?

Im on abcbodybuilding forums V. CEE

Im on abcbodybuilding forums V. CEE

They say that CEE is teh lose and I should of got mono whateva

The forums there have gone to hell ever since the jesus freaks took over. Almost all of the really knowledgable people got the hell out of there when swearing became a bannable offense.

FrozynFyre They say that CEE is teh lose and I should of got mono whateva because CEE isn't really backed by science is what they say

Zaffir The forums there have gone to hell ever since the jesus freaks took over. Almost all of the really knowledgable people got the hell out of there when swearing became a bannable offense. yeah that is why I don't really care for the forums anymore. It's all people stressing 2g of sugar, "I put too much whey in my shake, oh no!"

SteveO because CEE isn't really backed by science is what they say Hm...kinda like religion! The irony is delicious.

cavefish Hm...kinda like religion! The irony is delicious. True Story.

cavefish Hm...kinda like religion! The irony is delicious. yeah to a point. It's kinda funny how they say it's a site based on science and they completely disagree with the scientist about religion. I still like all their articles and exercise tabs, but the forums have gone to shit

SteveO yeah to a point. It's kinda funny how they say it's a site based on science and they completely disagree with the scientist about religion. I still like all their articles and exercise tabs, but the forums have gone to shit Think you'd get banned for bringing that up?

nathanbx Think you'd get banned for bringing that up? probably

nathanbx Think you'd get banned for bringing that up? Absolutely. Someone asked if wanking regularly helped/hurt his bodybuilding goals. He was banned for it.

Zaffir Absolutely. Someone asked if wanking regularly helped/hurt his bodybuilding goals. He was banned for it.

Zaffir Absolutely. Someone asked if wanking regularly helped/hurt his bodybuilding goals. He was banned for it. that's sad

Zaffir Absolutely. Someone asked if wanking regularly helped/hurt his bodybuilding goals. He was banned for it.

christophers abcbodybuildings articles are not backed by a dicks worth of science, especially the nutrition ones, at least from what i've looked at as mentioned before, mosto f their articles resort to "well arnold/insert bb'r did it, so..!" where do you read most of your articles at?

Did ABCBODYBUILDING have the "online training log" before OT? Or did we copy it from them?

Gutrat Did ABCBODYBUILDING have the "online training log" before OT? Or did we copy it from them? a lot of sites had it before OT did, though I dont know which of the two had it first

Gutrat Did ABCBODYBUILDING have the "online training log" before OT? Or did we copy it from them? it's not really a crazy new idea.. i'm sure lots of forums have that

Im on abcbodybuilding forums V. CEE

some max attemtp vid clips and pics *NWS*

some max attemtp vid clips and pics *NWS*

did a lecture today on PLing for my class, and had me and my co-facilitators max out in class. make sure you have a divx codec to play these clips. 405 squat by my friend Jason. sure it's not textbook perfect, but still a strong guy nonetheless:http://bboywind.com/jason%20squat.avi 315 bench by me. got stapled by 335 it's pathetic that i'm repping 285 but can't max 335 bench.http://bboywind.com/edbench.avi 205 x 6 seated military press:ibcrosseyed: http://bboywind.com/edmilitary.avi and lastly...NWS pic of me in briefs

leave your damn head on the bench preemo

jesus you're ripped

christophers jason needs to: 1) have one of you watch him from the side, and call depth when he hits it. he didn't hit depth, atleast from that angle 2) place the bar lower, if hes squatting with that stance the bar should be placed lower. all around he looks loose, too, you can tell his shoulder blades arent retracted and he chest isn't up lol same exact words of advice i would give to him after watching the clip

You're a strong dude..

BTW, i need some advice on my freakin lockout. during my attempt today, my elbows started shaking, thats a first for me. and also lockout has been my sticking point lately. i've tried 3 & 4 board presses, DE with 60% band tension, and tricep lockouts, and 335 is still eluding me

PreemO BTW, i need some advice on my freakin lockout. during my attempt today, my elbows started shaking, thats a first for me. and also lockout has been my sticking point lately. i've tried 3 & 4 board presses, DE with 60% band tension, and tricep lockouts, and 335 is still eluding me Slow cheat negatives with 335?

look at what my spotter does at 5 secs when i'm doing my set

PreemO BTW, i need some advice on my freakin lockout. during my attempt today, my elbows started shaking, thats a first for me. and also lockout has been my sticking point lately. i've tried 3 & 4 board presses, DE with 60% band tension, and tricep lockouts, and 335 is still eluding me leave your head down, and learn to drive with your feet more, some arch is needed when going full bore. Drive through the weight

PurEvl leave your head down, and learn to drive with your feet more, some arch is needed when going full bore. Drive through the weight Check out this artice, Preemo: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do...70881&pageNo=0

yeah i used to have a better arch but my lower back is still an issue

the asian chick is yawning as you bench

Also, maybe you should widen your grip a bit..

AngryGuy the asian chick is yawning as you bench she looks like shes got something wrong with her ear or something. speaking of which, the class is like 75% wimmen. and quite a good amount of hotties too

PreemO she looks like shes got something wrong with her ear or something. speaking of which, the class is like 75% wimmen. and quite a good amount of hotties too It'd be funny if she told you to move over and proceeded to rep 400. what class is it?

although impressive, i think the prob is more at the beginning of the bench.. you didnt have a clean start, so that may have caused the arm wobble. like pur said, drive through it. start controlled then blast, not the other way also should your arms be that angled? id think a bit more in line with shoulders, but im not sure about that.. :/

AngryGuy It'd be funny if she told you to move over and proceeded to rep 400. what class is it? heh funny you ask. at Cal we have a program called Decal, which stands for democratic education at Cal, and basically undergraduates can teach interest-specific classes to other undergrads for a non-letter grades. In the squat vid clip, the other two guys you see including myself are facilitators of the course. i'm the head facilitator (instructor). i also named the course after this forum: Fitness & Nutrition. I figure if i have an opportunity pass on the knowledge of what I've acquired throught my experience, this forum, my classes, and help them out, i should make the most of it. everytime i hit the gym i see guys who looked like me when i first started lifting, and it's rewarding for me to duplicate my results in another individual. i taught this class last semester which was really fun. but this semester, for one reason or another, there's such a disparity in male:female enrollment its krazy.

MCB: molecular and cellular biology

Bio major, eh? Me too.. not pre-med though..

yup hopefully early next year

holy. fucking. shit. are you natural?

transistor holy. fucking. shit. are you natural? yes. and to those who believe otherwise, if i was on gear, i'd be MUCH bigger. i'm pretty lucky to have a small waist and joints, allowing for greater taper for all my muscle groups. its all an illusion. proof? current stats: 5'6.5" ( ), 152lbs

Damn, PreemO. What did you start out at? How long did it take you to progress to where you are today?

started at 110lbs, 3.5 years experience now. this should provide some inspiration to all the lightweights who label themselves as "hardgainers": you can never eat enough. and never use your "fast metabolism" as an excuse for not being able to gain weight.

PreemO started at 110lbs, 3.5 years experience now. this should provide some inspiration to all the lightweights who label themselves as "hardgainers":[img]http://uploads.offtopic.com/files/befored3.jpg[img] you can never eat enough. and never use your "fast metabolism" as an excuse for not being able to gain weight. Very awesome.

some max attemtp vid clips and pics *NWS*

If you know your going to get totally trashed tonight...

If you know your going to get totally trashed tonight...

What would you do? Take a few protein shakes before? I know im going to be drunk tonight

protein shake with 4 tablespoons of olive oil in it, and drink another protein shake after you drink and like 3 glasses of water. you'll be super duper a-okay

just mix 12oz beer with 1 scoop of whey and enjoy x 10 when i get drunk i remember to eat something, usually some cottage cheese or some sort of protien before i pass out, and drink one big glass of water and take another to bed with me.

^^

i wouldnt worry about it.. just get plenty of water before bed. maybe down some milk?

jonno i wouldnt worry about it.. just get plenty of water before bed. maybe down some milk? Im lactose intollerant.... thats why i switched from water to milk for my protein shakes.....

deznutz Im lactose intollerant.... thats why i switched from water to milk for my protein shakes..... scratch that then

honestly... this is all you need to know about hangovers etc. http://health.howstuffworks.com/hangover.htm

deznutz Im lactose intollerant.... thats why i switched from water to milk for my protein shakes..... soy milk!

Lots of water while drinking and lots more right before bed. Take 2 advil before you hit the sack as well. One of my most successful drinking nights happened when I was about 18 - I had 2 big macs right before my friend's party, and drank like a fucking beast and felt smooth all night (no crazy spikes and dips in drunkedness) and felt great in the morning. So drink lots of water and eat more than you normally do before the party and you're all set.

Children's Ped-A-Lite. Best stuff ever created for eliminating hangovers. Drink some before going to bed/passing out. Wake up and have some more.

im not worried about hangovers....more about the nutrition aspect... maybe i should eat less for dinner, that way i can have more cals when i drink?

1 beer is barely more alcohol than a shot = 100 - 150 cals 1 shot of liquor is barely less alcohol than a beer = 70cals, 0carbs,0fat,0protein. Alcohol is its own calorie.

I wouldnt even waste my time trying to eat right or goto the gym that night or the next 2 days...its pointless

Smoke a joint in the morning...

I am always fine to work out the day after I drink. Just eat good and drink lots of water and you are perfectly fine.

"Headaches result from dehydration because the body's organs try to make up for their own water loss by stealing water from the brain" man fuck that

Alcohol + Dairy = bad news For me at least

PurEvl I wouldnt even waste my time trying to eat right or goto the gym that night or the next 2 days...its pointless

Ru-21

As an experience alcoholic take my advice- protein slows the synthesis of alcohol, so eat that before you start drinking (usually a bunch of tuna or a steak or some chicken wtfever...). Before you go to bed, and if you are really drunk this can be hard to do, but try to get 4-5-6 glasses of water pounded. Thats all there is too it, if you don't drink the water you are fucked. Eating tons of bread won't soak it up or anything so don't bother. Another thing I found that helps out is to have pre-made healthy foods out for when you get the munchies, with your inhibitions down its easy to want to go grab fast food or something shitty...you will regret it the next day and feel like a fat ass. Just make something and put it in the fridge so later when you are stumbling around it will seem like a burried treasure and you can devour it

alcohol is 7 calories per gram, but the body doesnt use it for exercise. It's also a diuretic. Being drunk won't do anything do your muscles, just factor in the calories, and make sure you drink water and burn the Cals. eat less today so you are more easily affected by the alch...then eat more tomorrow after you've pissed it out.

joy division As an experience alcoholic take my advice- protein slows the synthesis of alcohol, so eat that before you start drinking (usually a bunch of tuna or a steak or some chicken wtfever...). Before you go to bed, and if you are really drunk this can be hard to do, but try to get 4-5-6 glasses of water pounded. Thats all there is too it, if you don't drink the water you are fucked. Eating tons of bread won't soak it up or anything so don't bother. Another thing I found that helps out is to have pre-made healthy foods out for when you get the munchies, with your inhibitions down its easy to want to go grab fast food or something shitty...you will regret it the next day and feel like a fat ass. Just make something and put it in the fridge so later when you are stumbling around it will seem like a burried treasure and you can devour it as an experienced alcoholic I can say that just chugging water before bed and not eating anything works just fine. fuck the protein you're body doesnt want to digest MORE while you're sleeping...its already working hard on the alcohol.

Z PYRATE as an experienced alcoholic I can say that just chugging water before bed and not eating anything works just fine. fuck the protein you're body doesnt want to digest MORE while you're sleeping...its already working hard on the alcohol. and when you wake up with piss all over yourself, remember that

if you really care about the nutrition aspect of it, don't drink

If you know your going to get totally trashed tonight...