Hard Boiled Eggs

Hard Boiled Eggs

This is like the next best thing! I just have them lined up in the fridge -- when I get hungry crack one open and eat it. How much protein is in these babies? Anyone else do this? They are the perfect snack! Googled it and eggs have approximently 6.25g of protein each...does sound reasonable?

perfect snake?

Oh god...i'm laughing so hard...i'm crying...

mmm, i love them, I cook them and just eat the whites though

tize I think they are nasty, try getting an acceptable amount of protein from them at once.... I do..I eat 6 egg whites a day

egg whites..sure. the protein is in the whites, the cholesterol is in the yolks...

make deviled eggs for spice. damn they are good.

Elektra egg whites..sure. the protein is in the whites, the cholesterol is in the yolks... there is protein in the yolk too

DEF there is protein in the yolk too That may be but I sure don't want that cholesterol...the whites are all protein and no fat.

Elektra That may be but I sure don't want that cholesterol...the whites are all protein and no fat. why not?

pokesteve i think there are more than 6 grams of protein per egg, i can't eat 10 jumbo eggs without being really full... thats only 60 grams of protein? impossible. i can eat 2 cans of tuna no problem. gram for gram of protein, their is about 20-25X the amount of fat in eggs as there is in tuna

About half the protein is in the whites,about half in the yolk.

Dragon gram for gram of protein, their is about 20-25X the amount of fat in eggs as there is in tuna and?

SteveO and? no and. My point was, he feels fuller on the 60g of protein from eggs because of the fat in the eggs that is not present in the tuna

tize that's like 18grams of protein...chump change not for me

Dragon no and. My point was, he feels fuller on the 60g of protein from eggs because of the fat in the eggs that is not present in the tuna well u can't eat tuna every meal of the day because of the mercury content, so you need other alternatives. There's nothing wrong with consuming whole eggs

SteveO well u can't eat tuna every meal of the day because of the mercury content, so you need other alternatives. There's nothing wrong with consuming whole eggs I'm not saying you should. pokesteve i think there are more than 6 grams of protein per egg, i can't eat 10 jumbo eggs without being really full... thats only 60 grams of protein? impossible. i can eat 2 cans of tuna no problem. I was merely out out to Poke that the reason he feels more full from the eggs than he does from the tuna (with an equivalent amount fo protein) is mainly due to the extra fat in the eggs. I wasn't sugegsting that he (or anybody) should only be eating tuna all meals of the day or that there is anything wrong with eating eggs.

Elektra That may be but I sure don't want that cholesterol...the whites are all protein and no fat. cholesterol in eggs is not bad for you. Recent studies have shown this and there have been threads on here stating that it isnt bad for you either.

blood cholesterol is mainly a function of genetics. Dietary cholesterol plays only a very minor part.

Eggs are good for you:View this and become enlightened. http://www.wimp.com/egg/

stealthrapt0r why not? Because everybody produces all the cholesterol that the body requires to function. Anything more is just extra. You won't find it in the plant world...none at all ever. Cholesterol Content of Common Foods --John Robbins http://www.webdietitian.com/document...arycholesterol

BuckNut cholesterol in eggs is not bad for you. Recent studies have shown this and there have been threads on here stating that it isnt bad for you either. If it's not too much trouble could you give me a reference? I'd like to know more....

That was great. http://www.wimp.com/egg/

what the mother fuck was that?

that was pretty funny.

Hard Boiled Eggs

Thinking about Fat Fast type short term diet

Thinking about Fat Fast type short term diet

Anybody have any experience, or know any females (so unlikely) that have tried a short-term, really drastic diet? I'm thinking of something like T-mags Fat Fast, or the Draper Tuna and Water binge, something like that..just to get kick-started and get myself going again. It just never seems to be quite the same experience between guys and girls when it comes to dieting

girls seem to do well they combine diet and excerice with nolva

Mass girls seem to do well they combine diet and excerice with nolva If I thought I could get away with it, I'd be soo tempted to try *something* just to see; it gets frustrating chipping away bit by bit with slow results. Yes, it's the best way and all but...rawr.

If you lose any more than ~2lbs a week you will be losing muscle as well. It's just not healthy. Do it the right way, you'll be happier in the end.

It would work, but if you keep your diet in check you will lose fat just fine. Anyone that isn't losing fat when dieting (short of a very few with medical problems) isn't doing something right. And if you have trouble keeping your calories down during a normal diet what makes you think you will be able to do something like a PSMF without cheating on a regular basis.

ACURA TL-S It would work, but if you keep your diet in check you will lose fat just fine. Anyone that isn't losing fat when dieting (short of a very few with medical problems) isn't doing something right. And if you have trouble keeping your calories down during a normal diet what makes you think you will be able to do something like a PSMF without cheating on a regular basis. True; I'm just interested in something drastic for a few days to "jump-start" at least mentally. I eat pretty darn clean, went back to keeping my food journal as I have at other times, yet there's this point at which I seem to stick and the bodyfat just isn't budging despite more HIIT, different times, different lifting cycles..

Elfling True; I'm just interested in something drastic for a few days to "jump-start" at least mentally. I eat pretty darn clean, went back to keeping my food journal as I have at other times, yet there's this point at which I seem to stick and the bodyfat just isn't budging despite more HIIT, different times, different lifting cycles.. Less HIIT, more incline treadmill walking. BTW, I am suprised that if you are dedicated enough to have a food journal that you are having any trouble. What is an example of your daily intake?

*cough cough nolva and some triacana*

below setpoint maybe... what's your bodyfat %?

ACURA TL-S Less HIIT, more incline treadmill walking. BTW, I am suprised that if you are dedicated enough to have a food journal that you are having any trouble. What is an example of your daily intake? Basic day lately has been: 1) 1/2 cup oatmeal, 1 scoop pp 2)1 can tuna 3) 2 lean turkey sausages, broccoli 4) 2 sticks string cheese, apple 5) protein pancake/lean turkey burger/lean beef/veggies With different variances, it's coming out to 1600-1800 calories a day. I *think* what's been tripping me up lately is the little column to the right which is extras: 2 hershey's kisses, 1 peppermint patty has been the norm lately. I was trying to go for eating a little bit every day and staving off binges but somehow I'm wondering if that ~100 calories is really what's tripping me up. Workout regimen is 5 days of weights, 6 days of cardio- 4 of the cardio days are interval running. Seriously, after 5 years of working out and working on my nutrition I would *think* I'd be seeing better results. I gave up on the treadmill incline walking..it was giving me calf problems and I like running better anyways.

Thinking about Fat Fast type short term diet

anti depressents - gain weight?

anti depressents - gain weight?

I'm not gaining weight from it, but i'm wondering when they say a side effect is gaining weight. does that mean that your appetite gets bigger so you eat more, or it messes with your digestive system? or you just *shrug* gain weight? i'm not sure what i'm on, supposed to be a new form of "celexa" edit: Lexapro

has to do with that, being an ssri, inhibiting enzymes and several other things, supplement with EFAs and vitamin E

some antidepressants do cause some weight gain. remeron is notorious for it. find out what you take and look up the side effects

superbri007 i take flouxetine which is generic prozac, and I would say I've kept my weight under control. Damn, if gaining weight was the case, that would be great for bulking, but it doesnt' work like that. I think gaining weight applies to those not physically active I've been on 20mg 2x daily for about 3 months now. Noticed in the paperwork Kaiser gave me, that fluoxetine is also used prescribed as an appetite suppressant. I've gone from around 200lbs to 185-190 since I started taking it. Dunno about the other ones though.

Generally the weight gain is associated with fluid retention, in rare cases it has been shown that certain drugs can slow down the bodys metabolism.

Dr. Feel Good Generally the weight gain is associated with fluid retention, in rare cases it has been shown that certain drugs can slow down the bodys metabolism. i don't want that!

Its Lexapro

lexapro and its parent drug celexa can certainly cause weight gain, and are notorious for giving people night terrors/nightmares.

My eating habbits didnt change but when I started taking Paxil, I packed on 40 lbs or so in about 6-8 months. I hit they gym but struggled to lose weight which had always been easy for me before. I quit which was a nightmare, Im still trying to lose the extra weight and I seem to be weaker than ever despite my diet and routine.

what is lexapro's cause of weight gain though? i'm watching my weight very carefully, and if it starts to stay the same or rise (i've been loosing for quite some time now) then i'm getting off it.

ttt

the jury is out as to the exact cause of weight gain in patients who take SSRI's and SNRI but some theories include ...increased appetite, may cause drops in basal metabolism, hormonal changes....

Aluyminyum some antidepressants do cause some weight gain. remeron is notorious for it. find out what you take and look up the side effects I gained 40 pounds on Luvox. Stopped taking that and was put on Remeron--I became a walking eating machine...so, I took up running and don't keep fat food in the house. It's a constant "be depressed" or "be fat" battle. (Water or the Wave). Neither side appears to be winning.

OT knows a lot more about antidepressants than i thought.

superbri007 cause half of us are depressed Yeah, it's kinda disturbing.

superbri007 my dad on the otherhand takes 50 mg of Zoloft, and he doesn't workout, so he packed on some weight, but now he's lost 20 lbs and is getting it back under control i take zoloft as well. It causes some serious food cravings that are hard to ignore. oddly enough it went away with a higher dose.

superbri007 I should just get a PHD in psychology and start to make break-through progress on depression/anxiety, etc. Especially for American's. we're all emo now. There is a biological/scientific model in psychology and they all hold that these conditions are due to an imbalance in brain chemicals, and to fix them you need medication to balance it back out. I on the other hand think that over time, It will cause a domino effect on generations to come. Our kids will probably be born with less serotonin. I think Anti-depressants are just going to cause slow changes in our DNA, and this is coming from someone who has tried many different ones. I think the only way to break depression, is Normal Sleep, Diet, Exercise, healthy activities, and thinking positive /rant ps. and why the fuck am I in college for Criminal justice to become a cop and just lock people up, rather then be a psychologist/sociologist and help people out. Our depression "epidemic" isn't going to cause more depressed children. Evolution doesn't work like that. I go to the gym a lot and eat healthy, but that doesn't mean my son will be naturally athletic. If i take drugs to make my dick 12" long, my son isn't going to be born with a third leg. I feel like shit most of the time, I do all the "right" things - eat right, exercise, sleep well, etc. - but still feel like crap. "Think positive" worked for a while; i'd get over whatever i was upset about and life was dandy. But that stopped making me feel better and i got sick of lying to myself - I wasn't getting any happier, things still sucked as much as they always had. I have a feeling this is all caused by a fundamental problem in my life, something that needs to be fixed. I wonder how many people are the same and just take the "easy" way out by popping pills? Of course that's all speculation. When/if that problem is ever fixed i'll know if I am right, or if my head is fucked up. Fun fact: an hour of exercise three times a week is shown to have about the same effect on people as mild antidepressants. P.S. go psychology/sociology then

superbri007 I find that during and after exercise I feel great, but its the rest days in between I feel depressed, and in the morning when I first wake up. well, what are you doing for your depression, because I'm assuming you have it. And I still think that medication is not the right way to go about things, eventhough it can get people back to a somewhat normal lifestyle. I'm like a woman on a "heavy" PMS day in the gym, i vary from feeling awesome to being pissed off to not caring at all, all within my workout. About 80% of the time i feel a LOT better afterwords though. Anytime i take a break from the gym for a week or so i just about go insane. I'm doing nothing other than the standard eat well, excercise, sleep, etc. and trying to fix what i think is making me depressed. I'll start popping pills if that doesn't work. Some people really do have a serious disorder, but i dont think that's my problem. At least i hope it isn't.

anti depressents - gain weight?

v8 juice

v8 juice

Is V8 juice good for you? I love the stuff and just bought some of the low sodium kind. I was wondering if it had any benefits to drinking it.

I hope this is a joke. Compare the label to Pepsi.

a liquid vegetable in a can just doesn't make sense, that's like drinking a steak through a straw or chewing water

did someone say juice

Yes, V8 is good for you.

spicy hot v8 kicks ass

SoKo a liquid vegetable in a can just doesn't make sense, that's like drinking a steak through a straw or chewing water im not using it as a replacement for veggies. I just drink it because I like it

jonno did someone say juice That's what I was thinking.

BuckNut im not using it as a replacement for veggies. I just drink it because I like it Yes V8 is very good for you. Make sure you drink a great deal of water during the day as well.

v8 juice

Do you guys put any stock in supplements?

Do you guys put any stock in supplements?

I've never really seen any studies that support the theory that they would help in muscle growth and such, seems like an easy way out. Like a magic pill sort of thing. What do you guys think?

there's a ton of literature on the positive effects and general safety of creatine

therealdeal I've never really seen any studies that support the theory that they would help in muscle growth and such, seems like an easy way out. Like a magic pill sort of thing. What do you guys think? Apparently you haven't read any studies.

ACURA TL-S Apparently you haven't read any studies. Hence the question.

therealdeal I've never really seen any studies that support the theory that they would help in muscle growth and such, seems like an easy way out. Like a magic pill sort of thing. What do you guys think? You mean, you never bothered to educate yourself before forming your opinion... wtg

therealdeal I've never really seen any studies that support the theory that they would help in muscle growth and such, seems like an easy way out. Like a magic pill sort of thing. What do you guys think? You didn't look very hard.

yes, yes i do.

christophers i dont understand the question. what "supplements"? aas? Stuff like 'natural growth hormone,' shit that you see at GNC. I mean, I would think that if the supplement in question actually worked it would be advertised as having clinically tested etc.

Creatine and protein is it. The suppliment industry is not regulated by the FDA, who knows what you are getting, they can say whatever they want in advertising and claims. Most studies done were performed by the company selling the product so draw your own conclusions.

christophers you have to be specific wrt what supplements yiou are asking about. "natural gh" = shit. but creatine = good, 1 of the most researched supplements out there in general, literature doesnt support very many supps. this is basically all literature supports in most cases: -creatine -whey -post workout drinks -fish oils -ephedrine + caffeine what it doesn't support but is popular: -bcaa's -glutamine what works for me but isnt supported: -bcaa's what works the best evar: -aas. in most research aas provides better gains in FFM than training does. i can't wait! Oh ya, I wasnt reffering to ephedrine or creatine or even whey or fish oils. I watched TUF the other night and there wa this hilarious ad with chuck lidell promoting some 'xyience' supplements, and I checked some of it out and they have like 'fat burning mix' but its ephedrine free.

DCCapen This thread is like someone going into a political debate and asking the people there to tell them about politics before he has anything of his own to say I would actually compare it more to reading a newspaper about politics before jumping to conclusions. A guy like christophers could tell me more in a couple minutes than I could possibly learn over hours and hours of research. I'm sorry, but your analogy is terrible.

pass the test please

christophers you have to be specific wrt what supplements yiou are asking about. "natural gh" = shit. but creatine = good, 1 of the most researched supplements out there in general, literature doesnt support very many supps. this is basically all literature supports in most cases: -creatine -whey -post workout drinks -fish oils -ephedrine + caffeine what it doesn't support but is popular: -bcaa's -glutamine what works for me but isnt supported: -bcaa's what works the best evar: -aas. in most research aas provides better gains in FFM than training does. i can't wait! read this, then read it again, then write it down, then read it tomorrow

christophers most otc supps have minimal at best effects, just get some tests if you want a real effect Where do I sign up for studies like this?

assuming the black spots are motor neurons, look at how much more robust they are in B than A; also the fiber's area has increased considerably. gonna be a lot more power generated after the test en..

what are the side effects of test?

christophers what it doesn't support but is popular: -bcaa's -glutamine what works for me but isnt supported: -bcaa's well, there is some research in support of leucine (and its role in signaling the mTOR pathway)

Ceaze well, there is some research in support of leucine (and its role in signaling the mTOR pathway) AV

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GTPBR what are the side effects of test? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!! Get the fuck out and never ever come back. In fact forget that you have ever been on F&N, reformate you computer and go back to using AOL.

Do you guys put any stock in supplements?

went up to 80's

went up to 80's

Increased my weight on my DB press to 80's. Love getting stronger.

nice work man sitting, or incline?

flat bench

i've never done those on a flat bench, i prefer the bar i usually only do them inclined since the bar kills my shoulders with that range of motion

my incline db press is at 65's since it hurts my shoulders

i just bumped my flat bench to 225 last night, ill have to try the db's next time to see how that works

i gotta try the bench for my max this week or next

bb i mean

Gamblor Increased my weight on my DB press to 80's. Love getting stronger. I know the feeling. How many reps? I can do about 5 with 85's.

with my shoulder probs i cant max out, don't want to risk another surgery for the sake of seeing how much i can do

Mugwump I know the feeling. How many reps? I can do about 5 with 85's. i did 65x8 70x8 75x8 75x8 80x7

Gamblor i did 65x8 70x8 75x8 75x8 80x7 Impressive. I remember watching some guy do 50 lb DB shoulder presses and thinking to myself that I'd never get that far. And here I am doing 65 lb presses. <--- still a lightweight but whatever

i miss working out stupid cold my bench has hit a wall though

congrats, i can only get about 3 reps on the 80s on a good day

what are the reasons for doing flatbench db's compared to a bar? i guess it works the smaller stability muscles but other than that what does it do?

cootercritter what are the reasons for doing flatbench db's compared to a bar? i guess it works the smaller stability muscles but other than that what does it do? You answered your own question.



iwishiwascool You answered your own question. .

i just find it more comfortable doing the db rather than the bar

NoXeN i miss working out stupid cold my bench has hit a wall though I hit a plateau a month or so ago. Try what I call "shock therapy," or overtraining your muscles for one week or so. An example of one of my shock therapies. Shock Therapy, Day 1: chest + tricep Barbell Chest Press 10 5 5 5 20 Barbell Tricep Press 10 5 5 5 20 Barbell Incline Press 10 5 5 5 20 Barbell Overhead Tricep Extension 10 5 5 5 20 Cable Fly 10 5 5 5 20 Shock Therapy, Day 2: chest + tricep Dumbbell Chest Press 10 5 5 5 20 Dumbbell Tricep Extension 10 5 5 5 20 Dumbbell Incline Press 10 5 5 5 20 Dumbbell Overhead Tricep Extension 10 5 5 5 20 Cable Fly 10 5 5 5 20 That's doing the same muscle group two days in a row. You want to "break" your muscles, but you don't want to injure them.

Gamblor Increased my weight on my DB press to 80's. Love getting stronger. damn you you are beating me by 5 lbs. i did 75 x 8 last time so tomrow when i do chest i am going to go for the 80's hopefully!!

Gamblor i just find it more comfortable doing the db rather than the bar db's give me a greeater range of motion.. i cant go down all the way with the bar because it bothers my shoulder so i like to use db's also

baseball17c damn you you are beating me by 5 lbs. i did 75 x 8 last time so tomrow when i do chest i am going to go for the 80's hopefully!! DO IT!!!

how long yuo been lifting? just curious

I have been on and off throughout college, i would work out for 2 months, then stop for 2, then go for 2 then stop for 2. I didn't really straighten my shit out until january when i found this F&N and it gave me motivation. I have been going strong since January 1st.

went up to 80's

Curious, IS it ok to ask where to find PH's on this site???

Curious, IS it ok to ask where to find PH's on this site???

Im looking for some PH's, but dont know if its ok to ask for them on this site Can a mod verify this for me??????

or how bout you listen to everyone and try to find some real gear and that you can't do here

call them "candy" thats how f&n rolls

oh, and the real deal is "soda"

well i need candy then

sr20wop call them "candy" thats how f&n rolls I need some "candy" for my "research". That sounds about right

if anyone can help me out, please pm

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superbri007 you can get "candy" from the "baby" and the baby is not the back door of a GNC and you don't steal candy from babies

I know a guy that still has some. He bought out my stock the last day we sold them. I'm not at work now, but when I get there, I'll post some info on him if you want.

either that or PM mike he has 2 bottles of s1+ and doesnt lift anymore

Asking where you can find PH's is the same thing as asking where you can find test, dbol, etc. In other words, don't do it. Discussion of PH's, steroids, etc is fine. Just don't ask where to get them, try to sell them, etc.

head to a steroid forum, and befriend someone that knows their shit

Curious, IS it ok to ask where to find PH's on this site???