I am starting the Christophers base routine tomorrow.....

I am starting the Christophers base routine tomorrow.....

Thats right, you heard it...#'s will probably start out small, but i dont give a damn anymore....no more f'n around! Time to get big.

Hate to jump on the bandwagon, but I think I'm going to try it too....Although my numbers are already around 250/400/400...hmph who knows what I'll do.

keep us updated, i wanna know if its good for everyone else, i may try it.

on week 2 so far, numbers are steadily increasing from what they used to be. Or maybe i just wasn't pushing myself as hard as i could?

I am starting the Christophers base routine tomorrow.....

Chest sore after back+biceps day.. here is my log, what am I doing wrong?

Chest sore after back+biceps day.. here is my log, what am I doing wrong?

I'm guessing my form is screwed up on one of these excersies. This has never happened before. Also note that I just added the pullups this week I've never done them before (cant see how this could be it though). ---- Back, Biceps Heavy Weights 3 second negative on work sets 2 warmup sets 5 min warmup (running) Assisted Pull-Ups, wide grip - 4 sets of 6 Bent Over Rows, Barbell - 2 WU sets 8x30, 5 sets 8x65 6x80 4x90 2x100 12x30(burnout set) Bicep Curls, DBs standing - 2 WU sets 8x10, 4 sets of 8x15 8x15 8x15 4x20 +3 Supersets of EZ-bar curls 8x35 8x35 8x35 Crunches - 4x15xbw ---- One thing is the weight for my bent over rows needs to come down big time next week.. at 90lbs my form is terrible I can't bring it all the way up.. (you bring it up to your waist not your chest, right?) Thanks

The exrx guy's form isn't great on a lot of his gif demonstrations. Your chest probably hurts because of pullups.

Ilyusha Your chest probably hurts because of pullups. OK the more I think about it this is probably it.. this is the first time this has happened and its the first time I've done pullups. Thanks

one more question... my abs are never sore the next day or just plain ever. Not even a little bit. Is this not good or is it accecptable? I know soreness doesn't = good workout but I'm just wondering if I am working them hard enough. I do 4 sets of 15 cruches 3 times a week.

sometimes my chest only gets sore 2 days after maybe yur just gettin sore from chest day?

NormanNormal one more question... my abs are never sore the next day or just plain ever. Not even a little bit. Is this not good or is it accecptable? I know soreness doesn't = good workout but I'm just wondering if I am working them hard enough. I do 4 sets of 15 cruches 3 times a week. my abs never get sore... im pretty sure they recoup really quick

sr20wop sometimes my chest only gets sore 2 days after maybe yur just gettin sore from chest day? nope thats definitely not it

sr20wop my abs never get sore... im pretty sure they recoup really quick ok cool.. thanks

Lets see here...you have never had a specific muscle group hurt from a specific set of exercises. You add in another exercise, and another muscle group hurts...odds are this exercise is the culprit :duh: Just messing around, it was probably the pullups broly. Never complain when your muscles are sore, that means they are getting stronger

Z PYRATE Never complain when your muscles are sore, that means they are getting stronger But don't think that just because they aren't sore that you can go ahead and keep working them and overtraining them...

if your abs don't hurt, you're not doing enough

my abs always hurt after a big ab session

weighted decline crunches = sore abs

Chest sore after back+biceps day.. here is my log, what am I doing wrong?

Growing taller?

Growing taller?

Is there a way i can grow taller, i thought about getting nutrition and sleep as well as huge intakes of calcium anything else i should know?

other than hormone injections, you'll grow as far as your genetics will take you

what about weight lifting doesnt that stunt your growth?

acceptance > you

Mike McDermott I wish I was a little bit taller... ...wish I was a baller...

oh really. i wanna paper mat. how about that. ibthreadlocked

Atenza6i oh really. i wanna paper mat. how about that. ibthreadlocked And a six four Impala

how old are you? your growth plates may have closed already. If this is the case, you can at least work on your posture.

I highly dislike being a shorter person (5' 8") but I am getting over it. it's what God gave me and theres nothing I can do about it. Just go to the gym and build big muscles to compensate

damiand ...wish I was a baller... I wish I had girl that looked good, I would call her.............

LEX XIV how old are you? your growth plates may have closed already. If this is the case, you can at least work on your posture. what's the range for the ages they close at? and average closure age??

Whats this growth plate? I'm 19 and 5'8"....(I'm asian )I wanna be 6'3" :O

Till what age does the body grow again? Last i heard it was 25. Im 6'2" at 18 years old, i dont want to grow any more.

Best you can hope for is follow a typical bodybuilder's bulking diet. I would'nt skip the weight lifting. It will only stunt growth if you lift stupidly large amounts of weight, it will probably help by increasing you testosterone levels and thus making you grow taller. Of course supplementing with calcium will help, but an actual calcium deficency won't stunt your growth. You won't need to worry about this anyway if you're following a proper bulking diet with all the vitamins and minerals properly supplemented. It makes sense, a bodybuilders aim is too increase cell devolpment to the maximum amounts and the same is with people who want to grow taller. Go to the doctor if you want you're growth plates checked. I'm short, but I won't ever grow any taller. I've just learnt to except it. It has advantages e.g. I can pull bigger weights in the gym. In this day and age, height really is only a problem in social situations.

DTR rex I highly dislike being a shorter person (5' 8") but I am getting over it. it's what God gave me and theres nothing I can do about it. Just go to the gym and build big muscles to compensate thats what most short guys do

isn't too much calcium bad for you? something about your bones being calcified, whatever that means.

BlkGS3 Till what age does the body grow again? Last i heard it was 25. Im 6'2" at 18 years old, i dont want to grow any more. I'm 6'3 (turning 18 on the 28th) and if I grow another inch, I'm gonna get my legs removed.

who? what's the range for the ages they close at? and average closure age?? I have searched through many medical websites and many of them differ slightly in their numbers. What was generally said was that men stop growing in their early 20's and some as late as 25. Women tend to stop at 19 to 21. A simple body calculator for men (inches):Your height potential = (Height of Mother + Height of Father + 5)/2 For example, my calculated height 68.5 inches (5'8.5") and my actual height is just under 5'9" at 20 years old 68.5" = (60" + 72" + 5)/2 Check out this link for more info and a body height calculator: http://www.teengrowth.com/index.cfm?...ubdesc=Puberty Be skeptical of what you read on the net.

y0gfx Whats this growth plate? I'm 19 and 5'8"....(I'm asian )I wanna be 6'3" :O Im asian and 6'04" There are a lot of downsides to being taller... As well as a plethora of great ones... keep that in mind when I have to buy a coach airline ticket, go to mexico, buy clothes, eat and have to arch my back in some restaurants with the low decor.

You can always have your legs broken then seperated so they can grow longer.

Grouch And a six four Impala :word:

NoXeN thats what most short guys do LOL Although at this point i GUESS i'm satisfied w/being 5'8" (I'm taller than some of my friends ) My goal IS to become broly. However. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be TALL and BROLY, is there? edit: And to that average thing. My dad is 5'2" and mom 5'3". I'm way past my potential... edit2: make that 5'2" + 5'8 /2....5'5 average? [site makes me add 6 to my mom to assume she was a man ]

17 y/o korean and 5'8'' here, parents are 5'2'' and 5'6''

short isn't as bad as most guys and shallow girls make it out to be. I like a guy to be close to my height. (5'8") it makes perfect

~*Pogovina*~ short isn't as bad as most guys and shallow girls make it out to be. I like a guy to be close to my height. (5'8") it makes perfect I banged the shortest girl ever two nights ago Needless to say, it was awesome. 5'1"

Growing taller?

bench press

bench press

my left shoulder gets a sharp pain when i bring it all the way down to my chest, if i go like4 inches about my chest, it doesnt hurt, any way to fix this or what should i do

yea i have this problem too, didnt know that tucking your elbows in would fix it though gotta try that next time at the gym

I am not a fan of benching.

tize i bet you're a fan of listening to APC in a dark closet how did you guess?

2 board press

bench press

Ok, is this a good routine, v. Im a moron.

Ok, is this a good routine, v. Im a moron.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/luis10.htm I do this 4 days a week, excersize 1, mon fri. excersize 2, tuesday and thursday.

lose fat, gain muscle mass, get stronger are my goals.

If you're juicing maybe.

killerZees loose fat, gain muscle mass, get stronger are my goals. one of your goals is to have loose fat? i kid i kid

for your goals its fine just getting in shape is not that complicated and there are no super duper extra secret special kgb workouts to do. Just lift weights, eat right, rest, repeat.

Ok, is this a good routine, v. Im a moron.

The best myspace thread evar!!!1

The best myspace thread evar!!!1

Sorry about all the outside thread posting, but main forum fitness threads simply don't happen enough to be entertaining. Anyone who knows anything about M1t, Ph's, and steroids needs to take a quick look at this. http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...20050428131429 Some quick highlights The starter M1T, Does anyone know if this pill is still legal to take? I got it from Total Fitness like 4 weeks ago and have already done a 2 week on-2 week off cycle. I have now been told that this M1T pill is illegal to take in the United States of America. The lackies i have 5 bottles of 20mg lol i took hawthorne berry, milk thistle w/ cranberry extract ill be alright...worse comes to worse ill get surgery! :P would takin an anti estregen while on your cycle affect the positive effects of m1t..? i am on cycle right now.? and how long does m1t stay in your system.. and when i stop takin it.. will i lose all mass/strength gains..? reply back please.. oh yeah.. where can i get an anti estregen..!? This site is better than collegehumor.

i can only read about 1 or 2 posts at a time before I started or at teh absolute idiocy in the threads

The best myspace thread evar!!!1

is it ok to work out when sick?

is it ok to work out when sick?

my whole family is sick with the runny nose, sore throat, congestion crap. i noticed this morning at the gym that my workout was twice as hard to do as usual and i think it's because i'm getting sick as well. i have a runny nose but that's it so far. it's ok if i still go to the gym tomorrow right? its my cardio day and i'm trying to lose weight so i really want to go but not if it's going to hurt me

i'd stay home for a couple of days and just keep your diet in check

i say its fine to work out when your sick... might be as hard... but it just makes me feel like ive accomplished more when i do it...

I actually enjoy working out when I'm sick, as it makes me feel a lot better. Make sure to drink extra water though.

XsLiCk i say its fine to work out when your sick... might be as hard... but it just makes me feel like ive accomplished more when i do it... i've heard that when you work out it lowers your immune system for a short time. is this true? if so that would just make me get even sicker.

I usually go when I'm sick, put i get nowhere close to my max numbers, and i don't do cardio.

dude, when your sick your body uses EVERYTHING you have towards your immune system, so if you're not fully recovered from a workout then you're weakening your immune system because your body has to use resources for recovery as well. rest, sleep fucking sleep and eat easily digestible foods. are we talking about like a fever here? cuz if we are, stay warm as hell and take hot baths, eat alot of vitamin C, and help flush it out. just dont workout, a few days getting well is better than risking it getting worse and being out for longer. you're not gonna lose any gains.

not a good idea as stated above

ryazbeck dude, when your sick your body uses EVERYTHING you have towards your immune system, so if you're not fully recovered from a workout then you're weakening your immune system because your body has to use resources for recovery as well. rest, sleep fucking sleep and eat easily digestible foods. are we talking about like a fever here? cuz if we are, stay warm as hell and take hot baths, eat alot of vitamin C, and help flush it out. just dont workout, a few days getting well is better than risking it getting worse and being out for longer. you're not gonna lose any gains. who are you talking to im a girl, and its a runny nose...no fever. no infection as someone else mentioned...just a runny nose.

superbri007 your a girl and you are in the "pussyfeelgood club"? as opposed to the pussyhurt crew

I'm with the others who said it's not a good idea. Rather take a few days off and get lots of rest so you can return to full health sooner. I tried to tough it out at the gym when I got sick last month and what was just a routine common cold ended up taking over a week to go away. Rest up

superbri007 I have mixed opinions. I have been lifting with bronchitis for the past month...and I wonder why I still have bronchitis So part of me says it keeps your immune system low. But when I don't lift, I feel depressed and anxious, which also lowers the immune system. so its 6 of one, or half a dozen of the other now I'm on a 5 day anti-biotic for my infection I've had some bad luck with my lifting schedules the past few months from injuries and colds Oh well, once spring comes by, no more flu season, no more being cooped up in college dorm rooms with the heat blasting and germs spreading yeah im kinda torn too. i get sad just thinking about not going to the gym tomorrow. but i don't want to get sicker either. i'm drinking OJ to boost my immune system. and i saw a commercial for these new immune system boosting drinks...so i might go get some of those.

Larry Lex I'm with the others who said it's not a good idea. Rather take a few days off and get lots of rest so you can return to full health sooner. I tried to tough it out at the gym when I got sick last month and what was just a routine common cold ended up taking over a week to go away. Rest up ok. i hate this...i really want to go o well, i better rest

I think its okay...depending on how sick you are. I like to for psychological reasons. I would just stick to light cardio though at most. Working out with weights supposedly taxes the immune system in the hours following the workout.

timberwolf I think its okay...depending on how sick you are. I like to for psychological reasons. I would just stick to light cardio though at most. Working out with weights supposedly taxes the immune system in the hours following the workout. i would just walk on the treadmill for 90 mins....the most intense would be a brisk 3.6 mph walk on a incline of 7.

cbrpimp I dont so i dont get people at the gym sick that's where i got sick....damn people not cleaning off the freaking machines after they use them but i dont thin i would get anyone sick from using a treadmill that i wpie off afterwards

superbri007 just cause you see it on tv doesn't mean its going to work get some echinacea, vitamin C + zinc lozenges, and get some low acid OJ don't hit me...o wait..slap me harder i have the lozenges and dayquil (my SO is sick so he bought it) and i've been drinking OJ.

cold - yes sick - no

nic379 that's where i got sick....damn people not cleaning off the freaking machines after they use them but i dont thin i would get anyone sick from using a treadmill that i wpie off afterwards Isn't there some viruses that are supposedly mostly found in gyms? You should get back at them by not wiping.

the people at your gym are going to hate you when you get them all sick.

timberwolf Isn't there some viruses that are supposedly mostly found in gyms? You should get back at them by not wiping. I clamp 45 lb plates under my armpits while rubbing my ass crack along the bar and coughing on the bench press.

timberwolf Isn't there some viruses that are supposedly mostly found in gyms? You should get back at them by not wiping. i'm not a mean person though i wish i was...but i'm not. i even went out and bought my own antibacterial wipes so i could clean after myself. I'm kind of an ass about it though....i make sure EVERYONE that is even remotely near me sees me cleaning up after mylsef so that they might think "hey i should do that too"

Silver85327 the people at your gym are going to hate you when you get them all sick. i hate them for getting me sick...and no two wrongs dont make a right...but i dont think i will get anyone sick....i wipe after myself and i dont talk to or breath on anyone

superbri007 your one of those girls my aim screen name is the same as this name you bolded the wrong part the "my SO" part should have been

i worked out a couple times when i was sick, all it did was make me feel worse and increase the length of the cold

is it ok to work out when sick?