How much protein for my bulking diet?

How much protein for my bulking diet?

The rule that goes 1.5 x your body weight (140 x 1.5) = 210 g of protein = 2800 cals per day. I don't think that is good enough. I want to go from 140 lbs to 180 lbs as fast as possible without hurting myself. I will be basing my meal plan on a 30% cals protein/50% carbs/20 % fat. How many grams of protein can I eat each day to get from 140 lbs to 180 lbs as fast as possible without hurting my liver/body? Thanks.

If you want to gain 40lbs, you are going to need to load up on as many calories as possible. So that should be an adequate amount of protein. But you need to be eating somewhere in the area of like 7 or 8k calories a day.

dexterium How many grams of protein can I eat each day to get from 140 lbs to 180 lbs as fast as possible without hurting my liver/body? You think too much. Mike4831 But you need to be eating somewhere in the area of like 7 or 8k calories a day.

ralyks You think too much. Thinking is important. And by the way, 30% of calories of 7000 calories is 525 grams. That would kill me lol.

dexterium Thinking is important. And by the way, 30% of calories of 7000 calories is 525 grams. That would kill me lol. No Just Eat everything you can Don't worry about all those stupid percentages.

go_duke21 No Just Eat everything you can Don't worry about all those stupid percentages. One thing that I have noticed by a lot of body builders here is that they tend to like to dirty bulk a bit too much. I can understand the night out where you chow down everything in pizza hut but overall I think that some guys are "building skyscrapers out of rubbish". I mean honestly, there is a science to anabolism and percentages to matter when you want to have optimal growth, especially for us "regular builders" who don't have the genetics of Lee Priest nor the money to buy steroids. Not that I would take them anyway as that would take the fun out of body building in itself.

dexterium The rule that goes 1.5 x your body weight (140 x 1.5) = 210 g of protein = 2800 cals per day. I don't think that is good enough. I want to go from 140 lbs to 180 lbs as fast as possible without hurting myself. I will be basing my meal plan on a 30% cals protein/50% carbs/20 % fat. How many grams of protein can I eat each day to get from 140 lbs to 180 lbs as fast as possible without hurting my liver/body? Thanks. I'd recommend that you take in as much as possible in the course of about 8-10 meals a day. If you're lookig to go up 40lbs as fast as possible then you need to eat. and dexterium is right, stop consuming all the cals youc an get...shit if that were the case I'd run to BK and eat 5000 cals in 1 sitting and be fine. Be smart about what you take in.

Filmboy44 and dexterium is right, stop consuming all the cals youc an get...shit if that were the case I'd run to BK and eat 5000 cals in 1 sitting and be fine. Be smart about what you take in. People here try and eat the basic good foods but to bulk it is a lot easier to just take in 5000 cals from BK along with all the other good foods. It sounds like dexterium is a BB so I can understand his wanting to keep it fairly clean and regimented but I just eat whatever the hell I want and it seems to be doing fine. I do have a gut now though.

dexterium The rule that goes 1.5 x your body weight (140 x 1.5) = 210 g of protein = 2800 cals per day. I don't think that is good enough. are you saying you intend to take in 2800 calories per day or are you saying you think 210g of protein is 2800 cals?

b-stevens are you saying you intend to take in 2800 calories per day or are you saying you think 210g of protein is 2800 cals? it looks like hes implying 210g of protein = 2800 calories just eat lots of it. Don't worry about numbers. To make a diet do this: plug in foods that you like into 8-9 meals a day, get a good balance of carbs fats and protein and worry about the numbers afterwards because you control the quanities going in and out

SteveO it looks like hes implying 210g of protein = 2800 calories just eat lots of it. Don't worry about numbers. To make a diet do this: plug in foods that you like into 8-9 meals a day, get a good balance of carbs fats and protein and worry about the numbers afterwards because you control the quanities going in and out You didn't read all of my initial post. I said that this would be a result of a 30% protein, 50% carb, 20% fat meal plan. 1.5 x 140 = 210 g of protein. 210 * 4 = 840 calories from protein. 840 cals divided by 30% = 2800 overall calories. And by the way, to the person that said that I need to eat because I am only 130 lbs also didn't see that I said my body weight is 140 lbs.

dexterium You didn't read all of my initial post. I said that this would be a result of a 30% protein, 50% carb, 20% fat meal plan. 1.5 x 140 = 210 g of protein. 210 * 4 = 840 calories from protein. 840 cals divided by 30% = 2800 overall calories. And by the way, to the person that said that I need to eat because I am only 130 lbs also didn't see that I said my body weight is 140 lbs. You need to be a little more careful with your equal signs. If you considered 210g of protein 2800 cals you would be assuming you'd take in a whole shitload of calories and then we would have another person claiming to eat 15 thousand calories a day. No flames intended.

b-stevens You need to be a little more careful with your equal signs. If you considered 210g of protein 2800 cals you would be assuming you'd take in a whole shitload of calories and then we would have another person claiming to eat 15 thousand calories a day. No flames intended. So does anyone know how much protein a 140 lb person can take in without damaging their liver?

dexterium So does anyone know how much protein a 140 lb person can take in without damaging their liver? more than you can eat

I have a question for you. It seems like all you do is research. Have you even started working out and eating more?

I have not began anything yet. Besides, my stuff from bodybuilding.com hasn't arrived yet... whey and stufff... Trust me edmang, my nutrition was so screwed up that I needed this research.

dexterium So does anyone know how much protein a 140 lb person can take in without damaging their liver? eat until your skin turns yellow

too much bodybuilding.com. seriously. % ratios are fucking retarded. 1g -1.5g/lb of protein is plenty. If you don't belive that, find me a study that says otherwise. so say something like this (it's been beaten to death on here already):1.5g/lb of protein 25% of more calories from fat carbs to fill up the rest if you don't like that, eat more fat/protein and less carbs. The point is that more protein at the same calorie level isn't going to magically build more muscle. Your body will simply convert it to fuel and/or fat. Your kidneys are NOT going to be hurt by eating excess protien, it's been shown time and time again. Seriously, at 140lbs, you don't need to be micromanaging your diet, especially if you want to go up in weight as quickly as possible. Make sure you get enough protien, get your EFA's, and just eat a fucking ton.

shastaisforwinners too much bodybuilding.com. seriously. % ratios are fucking retarded. 1g -1.5g/lb of protein is plenty. If you don't belive that, find me a study that says otherwise. so say something like this (it's been beaten to death on here already):1.5g/lb of protein 25% of more calories from fat carbs to fill up the rest if you don't like that, eat more fat/protein and less carbs. The point is that more protein at the same calorie level isn't going to magically build more muscle. Your body will simply convert it to fuel and/or fat. Your kidneys are NOT going to be hurt by eating excess protien, it's been shown time and time again. Seriously, at 140lbs, you don't need to be micromanaging your diet, especially if you want to go up in weight as quickly as possible. Make sure you get enough protien, get your EFA's, and just eat a fucking ton. fucking I was reading to much BB.com, and I was clean bulking, trying to count my carbs and shit and was getting no where just fucking eat

dexterium Thinking is important. And by the way, 30% of calories of 7000 calories is 525 grams. That would kill me lol. I think it was Christophers who said the more calories you have in your diet, the less important a really large amount of protein is.

How much protein for my bulking diet?

what sauces do uuse??

what sauces do uuse??

Well, i was thinking, what does everyone put on all there food, like condiments and such?? I use ketchup and chipotle tabasco, on almost everything, and some sweet baby ray's barbecue sauce..

BBQ Sauce on all meat.

A1 makes everything better.

Sweet Baby Rays Soy Sauce

Grouch A1 makes everything better. I used to like that stuff when I was younger, and then I tried it on some steak in the past week or two and i thought it was fucking disgusting. I guess I just love steak too much to butcher it with that shit.

Grouch A1 makes everything better. hell yeah, i put A1 on everything. my parents think im weird cause i put it on their porkchops.

christophers i also steal sweet and sour sauces from various fast food resteraunts. Yup, how come you can never find the same good sauce in bottles at the store

Xtreme2k2 Yup, how come you can never find the same good sauce in bottles at the store werd, i wish i could find that stuff bottled...

I use nothing

Mustard BBQ Sauce

some of this sweet honey bbq shit from HEB oh and mayo aka man juice

Ketchup, mustard, tobasco, Soy. Mayo I used to use alot but after reading the label i wont touch the stuff anymore.

vettedude Well, i was thinking, what does everyone put on all there food, like condiments and such?? I use ketchup and chipotle tabasco, on almost everything, and some sweet baby ray's barbecue sauce.. Hows the sled working out for you? I still wanna make one.

Whitecheddar Ranch!!!

Silver85327 Hows the sled working out for you? I still wanna make one. I'm obviously not vettedude, but I actually spent most of this afternoon calling around at scrap yards and steel distr/warehouses to see how cheap I could find the materials for. The first place I called wanted 63 dollars for just the 1/4x21x24 plate of steel, so I was like fuck that and called probably 20 more places. The highest price I was quoted for just the plate was 90 fucking dollars... but I finally got ahold of somebody in the area that had a 50 dollar minimum sale rule and he said he would just do it for 50 dollars... He said for what I would be using it for Hot-rolled low-carbon steel would be fine and it would be 37 lbs (some people were quoting me 90 cents a lb for the steel so I figure I had a 20 or so dollar leeway before I actually hit 50. After getting off the phone I decided to call him back and order up 15 inches of 2" piping, the wall thickness I chose was about 1/4 inch (figured I could always fill it with something to strengthen it if it was weak). He never got bac to me on pricing of that because they didnt stock it but I figure 50 to 60 dollars total for parts... have somebody from school weld it for me and either find somebody to bend it for near free or cut the 3 inches and have it welded at an angle. I should have all the materials and everything put together by next weekend. ibholyfuckinglongpost edit: I'm going to call him up tomorrow and see if he found out pricing on the pipe and have him put the order in.

awesome, u should have bought 1.5" ID tubing, that stuff is right at 2" od, and people normally carry it in stock. I waslucky, and had a few options open for building my sled, my pops is in the industrial sector of town, and knows alot of people around here, so he was just gonna get one of his friends to give me the crap, but i was like what the hell is the fun in that, Shit is way ebtter when u build it with ur own two hands. But as far as sled work goes, it has gone great, i need to go get another plate for dragging, cause i can do two plates + the sled [pretty easilly, and i can stand straight up while doing it, i dunno if the way o have my rope configured is making this easier or not, but regaurdless, i am gonna need mopre plates for the home gym in the future anyway.

Actually any kind of ranch, I can/do drink that shit from the bottle, especially the cheese varieties/garlic/and bbq styles!

I have around 300 pounds worth of plates just sitting at my dads house that I never use and a 45 # bar. I bought them years ago and never used them. I want to buy a bench and start useing them fawkers. I dunno though I may be moveing to Nebraska/Iowa in a month so I am leary of gathering to much shit cause I dont want to haul it all up there.

I forgot but how much are you pulling on your sled right now?

Silver85327 I forgot but how much are you pulling on your sled right now? i started with two plates/ 90 pounds on the sled and thats what i did the last time i pulled it

I figured you would be pulling more than that. Your a pretty big dude.

siracha / siracha with butter. Most of everything else I eat is quality food so it usually doesn't need any addatives.

3-4 different types of hot sauce I add to almost everything.

lol by the timei made it to the end of this thread, i forgot that it was about sauces and not sleds. lol. i really dont use many/any sauces on anything. mayo on sandwiches (minimal to keep it from being real dry), lil barbeque sauce on anything that comes off the grill.

pepper, chilli oil, chilli sauce

what sauces do uuse??

Unfit - New comic

Unfit - New comic

http://dilbert.com/comics/unfit/



it is set in a gym from the makers of dilbert, i thought it was appropriate

yeah and I agree...its the mentality many follow..."if i workout I can still do this and that because I'm working out"

Filmboy44 yeah and I agree...its the mentality many follow..."if i workout I can still do this and that because I'm working out" if i benched yesterday, i can eat a bag of chips-ahoy today. and now that i mention it, i miss chips-ahoy.

this comic just started on monday, so it'll be interesting to see where it goes and if it lasts a long time



"I get to wear sneakers to work"

this isn't F&N related, but this one made me laugh more than anything



SoKo this isn't F&N related, but this one made me laugh more than anything

That comic doesn't seem too funny.

I think it's pretty funny





added to faves

Unfit - New comic

Bow flex any good?

Bow flex any good?

I have a gym membership, it cost me $30 a month, And i dont find time to go there when i would prefer when they are open. So I was looking into getting something like bowflex or another system if recommended. I could do it on my own time and save money over all. Ideas?

It's a machine weight. No.

It's a machine weight. No. edit : posted on my brothers account as paintballer, switched to my account and posted the same, and remembered I don't know his pw to delete comment

Plastic piece of shit

delete thread RUN

Dad bought one and I use it every once in awhile. Works alright but no where close to real weight. However it does do one thing that I havent noticed free weights do it make you might for complete control of the movement. but id stay with a gym membership



My girlfriend's dad bought one. I couldn't tell you how well it works because they only used it for the first week they had it.

better than nothing......but the gym is the best

you better off with a rack, bench and DBs

xpinchx My girlfriend's dad bought one. I couldn't tell you how well it works because they only used it for the first week they had it. isnt that what they all do?

...I think they're great!!!!! .....for hanging your clothes on

if you can't find the time to go the gym, then you're not motivated enough to do this. It's not so much of an equipment problem, i'm sure it's possible to make decent gains on a bowflex...but you just don't have the right attitude to do it. Most likely you'll buy the thing, use it for 2 weeks, and then it will sit collecting dust.

Contrary to popular belief here in OT, it is a decent system IF you are A BEGINNER. That said, anything is decent if your a beginner. I used to have one and it no doubt helped me build a decent base back starting out days. You have to bust your butt on it to get sore and I pretty much only used it for benching. Real free weights and a gym are the best by far though.

resistance will get you stronger. Doesn't really matter where it comes from.

they key isnt what machine, its how often you use it.

Kotchy or another system if recommended. I could do it on my own time and save money over all. Ideas? power rack, bench, barbell, weights, dumbells.

Beason However it does do one thing that I havent noticed free weights do it make you might for complete control of the movement. engrish?

Bow flex any good?

Hm..explanation on this?

Hm..explanation on this?

I do chest + tris once a week...I did it last week (monday) but that was the only day I worked out. Had knee surgery so I was stuck at home the whole week Anyways, at the gym today, I did BB 155x10, 165x8, 165x6. Last week when I did it I could only get about 4 or 6 on the last two sets. The week before, I got 4 on the 165 sets. Explanation for this? Is it possible that the week "off" from everything else let my muscles recover?

Overtraining.

Wouldn't doubt it..but still, sad if that's so.

knucks Wouldn't doubt it..but still, sad if that's so. Well then there's your answer. You aren't giving your muscles enough time to recover. I had the same problem with DB shoulder press a few months ago.. after not pressing for 2 weeks, I came back 10lbs stronger per DB.

How is a week not enough time to recover? Nothing going well for me in life.

knucks How is a week not enough time to recover? Nothing going well for me in life. What kind of volume are you doing per day/week, and how many times per week are you working your chest?

Ilyusha What kind of volume are you doing per day/week, and how many times per week are you working your chest? Not sure what you mean by volume..but I do this/similar to this once a week (Monday): flat bench (bb or db. i change it up here and there) incline bench (db) decline (smith) dips incline wide grip(machine) flys (once in a while..not really consistent with them)

knucks Not sure what you mean by volume..but I do this/similar to this once a week (Monday): flat bench (bb or db. i change it up here and there) incline bench (db) decline (smith) dips incline wide grip(machine) flys (once in a while..not really consistent with them) That looks like too much already.. how many sets/reps do you do per exercise?

3. today was a crappy day for me as I didn't want to over-do it on the first day back: flat bench (bb): 155x10, 165x8, 165x6 incline bench (bb..i hate doing this but my wrist has been bothering me): 95x10, 105x10, 105x8 decline (smith): 25s x 10, 30s x 10, 40 x 8 incline (machine): 60 (on each side) x 8, 60 x 8, 60 x 10, 60 x 10 i usually do 4 or 5 exercises for chest

I would do no more than 3-4 exercises with 3-5 sets each per week.

Hm..explanation on this?

Justin er filmy says to get the smaller one...

Justin er filmy says to get the smaller one...

I dunno. Got fitted by some stupid whore for my tux. 48 fits arms / shoulders and chest, but I could put like 3 basket balls under there. Filmy said to get a 44 and just relax because I'll only be wearing it for a short time. I think I could rip the 44 if I coughed really hard but it will look better. STupid cunt that fit me for it was like "golly the problem is that you're so big up here and not down here" Me = "I think your parents are related"

so you're not big "down there", eh?

GilgaMesH so you're not big "down there", eh? you know what I mean

fat man in a little cooooooaaat

SoKo fat guy in a little cooooooaaat Fixed.

sorry

44"? I had one of those when I was 20, no way you will make it bro, get the 48 and grow a back

I would get the bigger one. I got a 46 because it didn't look stupid (whole basketball thing you are talking about) and everytime I put it on I feel like I am going to rip the arms to shreds. The pants fit like a charm though since the suit came with 43 inch pants and they had to be fitted or else I would look like a real tard. I would just live with having the chest look stupid. It takes me a good minute to put my coat on without ripping it.

PurEvl 44"? I had one of those when I was 20, no way you will make it bro, get the 48 and grow a back It isnt the back that causes the problems, it is the lack of beer belly.

PurEvl 44"? I had one of those when I was 20, no way you will make it bro, get the 48 and grow a back Grow a back? back ain't the problem. I'll have to grow pregnant to fit in it.

trancezj Grow a back? back ain't the problem. I'll have to grow pregnant to fit in it. beer my brother beer

PurEvl beer my brother beer I think we all know I have no problem with that.

PurEvl beer my brother beer mmmmm beer

Oh that happened to me at my buddies wedding last fall. The rental place got me into a 50 Regular. When I put it on, totally fit in the shoulders and arms....not at all in the waist....asked them what they can do and they said 'nothing'..... With that said (if you can't find an 'athletic cut coat'), just make sure it will look good in pictures and then take the darn thing off ASAP.... Oh, and if they are having vests under, MAKE SURE that's the right size, cuz that's what you will be wearing all night

same problem with my brothers wedding as I told you already. I went in and took 3 coats...50, 48 and 46...the 46 comes short as shit even the long...the 48 looks too tight and the lapels actually flare out. The 50 fits fine in the chest and arms but the waist is like Trance said....4-5 basektballs

but Trance, get the 44 for picturs only and scrape it when you sit down...really you'll thank me later in the pics pics can't tell if you're uncomfortable

Filmboy44 but Trance, get the 44 for picturs only and scrape it when you sit down...really you'll thank me later in the pics pics can't tell if you're uncomfortable I'm afraid if I cough it'll explode. Maybe I'll go for the 46 and be kinda comfy and kinda stooopid looking.

trancezj I'm afraid if I cough it'll explode. Maybe I'll go for the 46 and be kinda comfy and kinda stooopid looking. its obviously your choice, but get the 44 long, which will hae a tad more room...the 46 will look like a big bag, the 48 is stupid the coat I"m wearing right now for a suit is a 48 but its tailored to fit inside which is great...but before it was tailored it looked rediculous...

When I went suit shopping I had the same experience, I went with the 44 instead of the 46 and just got the 44 tailored on the sides so it would give a tapered look

38 jacket, 28 pants. thank got for suit seperates.

SickLife 38 jacket, 28 pants. thank got for suit seperates. try 50/R with 32/34 waist

I went back this morning.. 44 is a no go. It looks like a spandex type coat standing still. 46 will have to work. It's still gunna be big, but I can't do the 44 at all.

get a different cut then. Go with the double flap back and the long, it will fit fine

wear sweatpants

Trance, I wore a 48 for my wedding in February. I looked like I was wearing a freakin robe. It was huge around my waist, but still a little snug around my shoulders and back. The girl at the shop told me I needed to quit working out. I told her to quit talking (then I told her I was kidding, so she wouldn't fuck up my tux on purpose). I chose a Ralph Lauren tux, and they didn't come in an Athletic cut. Get the 48 and don't worry too much. You won't have the jacket on all night and when you do, everybody is going to have their arms around you taking pictures. You won't notice. My suits have to be tailored and they look good when they are done properly. They are athletic cut, but still too damn big around the belly area. They make your shape stand out better when they are tailored and make your back look huge.

Justin er filmy says to get the smaller one...

is this mental or what?

is this mental or what?

i have been changing my eating habits lately and working out. well i felt kinda weak at the gym this morning and it pissed me off and put me in a bad mood all day. Then i ate 3 ccokies at my moms because i was depressed and they were homeade and smelled so good and i'm such a fucking pussy for doing that. then i had a lean peice of steak and 1/2 a plain baked potatoe. well, ever since the cookies i've been feeling nauseated. so i ate the steak and potatoe because i still need to eat for energy. well, the nauseau hasen't gone away yet. is this just mental cause i fucked up my diet and i'm becoming a purger or something? i dunno. i feel stupid. it's just been a rough day i'd like to think it's mental. /rant

what?

i've found that after not eating sweets.. when i finally do, they make me feel sick especially cookies. i've stopped eating them altogether try cookies another time if you want.. my guess is that they'll make you feel sick again

Maybe the eggs she used were bad

Maybe the cow had Mad Cow Disease

Dude, its 3 cookies. Get over it.

I could see them making you feel nauseous for a few hours if you havent eaten sweets in a long time but not the entire day. When I drink coke I always feel sick afterwards if I haven't drank it in a while.

probably a little bit of both. The gulit of eating cookies and probably not eating much.

AmCo probably a little bit of both. The gulit of eating cookies and probably not eating much. this is what i decided too. i really did feel nauseated after I ate them....but then 6 hours later when I posted this it had to hae been mental. I'm actually kinda glad that I felt that way because it shows I'm trying to be strict and hard on myself. Othertimes, I wouldn't have cared abit and just said...eh, i'll start over tomorrow, and went and binged. This time I pulled myself back together and ate right afterwards.

sprite Dude, its 3 cookies. Get over it. yeah yeah..it's 3 cookies..... it wasn't so much about the cookies, but more about how I let myself do it.

i ate a box of mac & cheese with 3 glasses of pepsi

Ceaze i ate a box of mac & cheese with 3 glasses of pepsi fuck you fat ass

nic379 yeah yeah..it's 3 cookies..... it wasn't so much about the cookies, but more about how I let myself do it. Don't get hung up on this. If it really bothers you that much, just try to forget it and move on. Take the day off from your diet, it sounds like you need to.

christophers OCD this is not dexterium

is this mental or what?