Sunday, December 15, 2013

Mini F&N meet in Santa Cruz CA April 9th?

Mini F&N meet in Santa Cruz CA April 9th?


There is a strong man event going on in santa cruz. Lets show these fatties what crunking is all about. http://norcalstrongman.com/OtherContestInfo.html

Anniversary weekend.. can't make it.

Ilyusha Anniversary weekend.. can't make it. I kid I kid.

Grouch I kid I kid. Funny thing is that I *might* be in Monterey/Carmel with her if I decide to get hotel reservations for Fri->Sat. Maybe I can sucker her into going to SC for a bit..

i can probably make it more details besides ones listed on the ws?

Cobra Commander i can probably make it more details besides ones listed on the ws? i dont have any. i just know a guy who is doing it

will there be koolaid and watermelon served? if thats the case I may attend.

I was thinking of drinking some beer that day at this great brew pub in SF. But if a fair number of people start signing up to come, I'll mob down there too.

cazzone I was thinking of drinking some beer that day at this great brew pub in SF. But if a fair number of people start signing up to come, I'll mob down there too. Where in SF?

Toronado... lower Haight. Bawmb.

cazzone Toronado... lower Haight. Bawmb. You should check out Milk on lower Haight as well..

Ilyusha You should check out Milk on lower Haight as well.. Milk.... meh. I'm done trying to be hip or whatever the kids are these days. I goto Toranado for the beer. www.toranado.com

cazzone Milk.... meh. I'm done trying to be hip or whatever the kids are these days. I goto Toranado for the beer. www.toranado.com I didn't know you were old, mang. That site doesn't work..

Ilyusha I didn't know you were old, mang. That site doesn't work.. yeah cazzone is old.

Ilyusha I didn't know you were old, mang. That site doesn't work.. http://www.toronado.com/ Belgian Beer > *

Grouch yeah cazzone is old. Well, too old to hangout with wankstas tryna "holla at beezys" while "slumpin" the brand new "cuts" off the "King Nicky" album


















Mini F&N meet in Santa Cruz CA April 9th?

Squat problem

Squat problem


I have this problem with my legs. For one thing, i'm what they call "bull legged". However, for some strange reason, my "tibia" -- the shin bone -- is rotated a bit more than normal. Meaning my toes stick outwards a bit more -- which makes my knee point a bit inwards. Now, the problem is that my knee naturally doesn't go over my toes. Does anyone else have this problem? Something about tibia torsion... if you guys really don't understand, i'll maybe get some pics...

i'm lost maybe pics would help

External tibia torsion to be exact. or outtoeing?

well, ur toes should be pointed outwards, and also, your knees should not pass your toes.

Thanks Vettedude. I know though...the question was -- Does anyone else have this problem?

Gutrat Thanks Vettedude. I know though...the question was -- Does anyone else have this problem? i dont see what the problem is???

Hmm, its hard to explain... well, it isn't really... its just my knee doesn't line up with my toes... so its hard to line them up properly during a squat. () -||- <-- Me ||/ Understand now?

tize try paint i'm tired right now, i'll do it tommorow when I can...gnight guys

tize wrong and wrong.

what abput the whole sitting back thing, your knees should be behind ur toes if you are sittign back.

tize http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do...itan?id=603563 tize, the article fails to explore the delicacy of the knee joint, compared to the stability of the hip joint and presence of fibrocartilage in the lower back. While they might throw a large number at you, it is well possible the joints can sustain that extra force better than the knee joint can sustain the extra force it recieves with exaggerated coronal translation of the knee joint

What uh huh? Eric has drawn his own conclusions in this article, although he does quote the researcher as saying it only 'may' benefit appropriate joint loading.

I've sent Eric an email about this, if you are interested here it is: Hi Eric In this article you say that your knees should infact travel over your knees in a squat, citing the research of Fry, Smith and Schilling. There are a couple of issues I'd like to raise with you. If I get the chance tomorrow, I will read the actual journal article, as I have no e-access too it, only print Firstly, the measurement of torque is questionable in itself in this experiment. The reason being, by looking at the photo you replicate in your article, the pictured subject obviously has learnt the motor skill with his knees passing the toes, which you yourself state, " In the second condition, movement wasn't restricted at all; they squatted normally, and the knees passed the toes " The athlete, therefore when provided with physical guidance to perform a motor skill with different pattern than what he is used too, will ofcourse perform a sub-standard movement with unbalanced loading on joints, he will perform it as a beginner, in a 'step-by-step, poorly coordinated manner" (Henry and Rogers, 1960)' The wooden board changes the movment the athelte is useful, and provides a different set of intrisic feedback, therefore ofcourse he will show abormal joint loading when presented with this physical block. If an athelte is trained to squat without his knee translating over his foot from the start of the squatting experience, then, without doubt, he would produce less abnormal force distribution. Similary, if he was forced to squat with his knees over the toe, he would probably put excessive force into the knee joint. The other issue I'd like to raise is that you have not compared the stability and strength of the knee joint vs hip joint. We know the hip joint is very anatomically stable when compared to the knee joint, even just looking at its anatomical position tells us this. It should be able be able to withstand the forces better than the knee joint. One should also look at where this "myth" originated, if there was little occurance of knee complaints of squatters, then researchers would not have looked at how to reduce this. I could be well and truly wrong, but I'd like my arguments debunked if I am

tize what his reg date Put your mouse over my username, you'll see I have a smaller UID than you

If youre gonna disagree with my view point fine, just when I call you on it, atleast say something that sounds like fact, not just jump on a bandwagon. Just because eric says its so doesnt make it so, hey, I could be making myself look like an idiot and be completly wrong, but atleast ive presented an argumented view




















Squat problem

So apparently gripper work DOES help with holding strength

So apparently gripper work DOES help with holding strength


I've been working with the CoC trainer for just few days now....when i got it i was struggling for a few reps in each hand and now i can get 20 good reps, left and right. Today i was able to deadlift and hold 285 double overhand and 335 over-under without any problem at all, whereas before grip always became an issue with these weights. Granted my grip sucked to begin with and we're not talking about a lot of weight here, so i'd imagine at some point the difference between crushing strength and holding strength will start to be more apparent. But if you are a beginner and have grip issues like i did, picking up one of these grippers may be something to try. Guess it's time to order the # 1 too

werd its the bomb... i'm still having issues with #2, but gimme a few months

I'm still on the trainer. I can close it with my right hand 3-4 times, I can almost close it with my left hand. I'm a lightweight

im working on teh 200lb one now. kicking my ass

What site are you guys ordering from?

I ordered the #1 and I've been working on it for almost a month now and I still can't all the way close it, I can come within about a centimeter for about 20 reps but I can't close it all the way.. My grip is fairly good though, I can hold over 400 for shrugs, but I can't fucking close a #1..

It sort of seems like if my hands were a little longer I would be able to close it a lot easier..

7th Ninjai What site are you guys ordering from? same question

i got the trainer used from someone on here, but i guess i'll order the # 1 direct from ironmind.. www.ironmind.com

is the combo deal still going on? i'm interested in the trainer and the 1 just to test it out edit: and because I'm weak






























So apparently gripper work DOES help with holding strength

Whey Protein or Creatine ?

Whey Protein or Creatine ?


Which is more valuable to new muscle growth for non-religious weight lifters who exercise regularly and lift twice a week Max? Is there another supplement (other than Multi-V) that is more vital ???

If your diet is protein deficient, then the whey protein would be more beneficial. If you are already getting adequate protein through whole foods, then creatine would be more beneficial. It goes without saying that you should be using a good MV, and supplementing EFA's.

sprite If your diet is protein deficient, then the whey protein would be more beneficial. If you are already getting adequate protein through whole foods, then creatine would be more beneficial. It goes without saying that you should be using a good MV, and supplementing EFA's. good info! I did say in my first post anything else other than "Multi-V", meaning i already use a good one but would want to look into something to help in gaining muscle growth. What is "EFA"? And why does that guy want to kill me, all i do i eat googles for breakfast nothing more nothing less

id go as far to say if you arent real involved stay away from creatine

Opi id go as far to say if you arent real involved stay away from creatine Hmm i was an athlete but was never really informed on body enhancers so i never took them. What is bad about Creatine other than the occassional cramp through dehydration?

ok Is An essential Fatty Acid , the same thing as Omega 3 and 6 i have been reading or hearing about so much lately? If so, i always read about it as a mental or Neuro affects rather than physical supplement? What is it good for?

CoronaBottle ok Is An essential Fatty Acid , the same thing as Omega 3 and 6 i have been reading or hearing about so much lately? If so, i always read about it as a mental or Neuro affects rather than physical supplement? What is it good for? Do some research dude, these are basic questions. Fish Oil: http://www.1fast400.com/?ingredients_id=19 Flaxseed Oil: http://www.1fast400.com/?ingredients_id=58

tize waste of money, time if you arent active dot

sprite Do some research dude, these are basic questions. Fish Oil: http://www.1fast400.com/?ingredients_id=19 Flaxseed Oil: http://www.1fast400.com/?ingredients_id=58 Well, not really. Some o fthe info you provided me really don't even answer my question. "Flaxseed oil can help preven breast cancer", how will this help me gain muscle?

It won't help you "gain muscle", it will, however, help with body composition. There are two paragraphs on this in the Fish Oil article. Different products as a means to the same end.






























Whey Protein or Creatine ?

Alright I am addicted to proving people wrong on myspace.

Alright I am addicted to proving people wrong on myspace.


Christophers, do most PL routines have shrugs incorporated?

Look at a Metal Militia workout or anything by Mike Miller...hold on let me find a link.

Mike Miller Wednesday we'll do shoulders and tons of shrugs. Shoulders and traps are an integral part of your bench pressing. I do trap bar shrugs. I start with 135 pounds for 100 reps, 225 for 75 reps, 315 for 50 reps, 425 for 25 reps, then 515 for 15 reps. Then I'll alternate with straight bar shrugs and work up to 495 where I use a little of my body weight to heave the bar up. Then I'll hold it there for five seconds. I'll go up to 600 pounds and do the same thing, letting my arms hang down low to get a good pull on my traps. Then I grab the 135 pound dumbbells and do shrugs, four sets of thirty, really strict. After that I superset front raises and side raises. Tons of assistance work for shoulders! Not exactly typical of everybody, the guy is a damn beast.

I love the look of large traps, and I try to shrug with really strict form and slow negatives and pauses and such. It's extremely taxing, and after 3 sets of 20 with DB's, I'm spent. I dunno why, but it's the most grueling exercise for me. Should I do more trap work?

ACURA TL-S Christophers, do most PL routines have shrugs incorporated? hahaha acura, i was thinking of asking the same question here to prove that fag wrong ;x i feel the same way as your thread title as well.

Ilyusha I love the look of large traps, and I try to shrug with really strict form and slow negatives and pauses and such. It's extremely taxing, and after 3 sets of 20 with DB's, I'm spent. I dunno why, but it's the most grueling exercise for me. Should I do more trap work? wait so your only shurggin 20 lb dumbells?

20 reps and to believe that they thought powerlifters did not juice, LOL

cavefish Not exactly typical of everybody, the guy is a damn beast. Starting in may I will be training with him

Even in the dave tate intermdiate routine he has shrugs in there. Jim Wendler wants to be arrested for having to large traps

515 is lightweight

pokesteve i dunno about anybody else but after deads my traps are fucking DEAD Mine never hurt after I dead

pokesteve i dunno about anybody else but after deads my traps are fucking DEAD Hitching is bad mmmkay?

ohh god, the lates jewel, lol

From: Stacey Date: Apr 13, 2005 11:53 PM Subject: ha Body: look at yourself..no wonder you talk shit loser..you wish you could have my life

my responses:ohh god, are you serious.... lol, DIAF so, anythign else you have to say, because that was fuckign weak, you are seriously a retarded person, have u ever had your IQ checked? You would probably not be suprised at how low it was.

vettedude From: Stacey Date: Apr 13, 2005 11:53 PM Subject: ha Body: look at yourself..no wonder you talk shit loser..you wish you could have my life ' shes ugly hahdhdhaha that makes it so much better

vettedude From: Stacey Date: Apr 13, 2005 11:53 PM Subject: ha Body: look at yourself..no wonder you talk shit loser..you wish you could have my life Stacey "The Joker" Tarantino.

Ilyusha Stacey "The Joker" Tarantino. holly shit, they are fucking twins http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...&categoryID=52 thats the thread that started this...

you guys have way too much time

dmaestro you guys have way too much time This man speaks the truth.

Ilyusha Stacey "The Joker" Tarantino. I was thinking "sandra bernhardt impersonater"

I'd say so.

omg




Alright I am addicted to proving people wrong on myspace.

Grippers

Grippers


Well since i guess the GB fell though i decided just to pay the full price for the heavy grips. Was only $69.99 shipped. I cant wait to get them

Why the hell did you pay so gattdamn much?

tize waste of money you coulda got an 8ball, almost No, you douchebag. He could have bought an 8th of weed. An 8-ball of coke is at least 2 times that.

Well i got my VA check today so i was not worried about saving a few bucks..

An 8th of ganj for $70 better be better than best. 8ths usually run 45-60, depending on quality and who you know.

If you close the 300 I will personally fly my ass over to idaho and stomp a mud hole in you.

Ilyusha An 8th of ganj for $70 better be better than best. 8ths usually run 45-60, depending on quality and who you know. My network sucks right now, only have one homie that I pick up quarters to o's from. Need more variety.

Perplexed Grouch, how does a HG150 compare to CoC#1? And a HG200 to a CoC#2? 150 is just a tiny bit harder than a trainer 200 is about a 1.

Perplexed My CoC trainer came today.. I think I shoulda started with the #1, I can already close it 5+ times with each hand no trainer is just right. The 1 is a beast for most grip noobs.

Grouch no trainer is just right. The 1 is a beast for most grip noobs. Do you use chalk for plate hub lifts?

b-stevens Do you use chalk for plate hub lifts? no i dont. not on the plates that i use for it. but most of the newer plates I've tried you almost have to.

Ilyusha An 8th of ganj for $70 better be better than best. 8ths usually run 45-60, depending on quality and who you know. 1/8 goes for about $25-30 bucks canadian here... and we have some of the best shit

dc213 1/8 goes for about $25-30 bucks canadian here... and we have some of the best shit California

dc213 1/8 goes for about $25-30 bucks canadian here... and we have some of the best shit 30 canadian is like 358 american, dude.

well i got them today

mtnbike4522 well i got them today winnar!!!!11one Now what can you close.

I can get the 200 about 3/4in from closed 300 i can hardly budge

mtnbike4522 I can get the 200 about 3/4in from closed 300 i can hardly budge not bad though. the 200 is about a coc1. Thats where I pretty much was when I started. I can get the 300 down to 1/4 inch though now.

Perplexed So which one is about equal to a CoC2? the 250 is close, like a 1.8 the 300 is like a 2.6












Grippers

So I've been through a shitload of proteins in my time....................

So I've been through a shitload of proteins in my time....................


and nothing compares or comes close to the taste of muscle milk chocolate milk.......sure its packed with sugar........but out of all shakes this is by far the best tasting hands down.

It should be for all the fat it has.

~stangzorized~ It should be for all the fat it has.

with water? or milk

Patrick Bateman and nothing compares or comes close to the taste of muscle milk chocolate milk.......sure its packed with sugar........but out of all shakes this is by far the best tasting hands down. Ever tried Biotest Grow? Shit's great!

ON choc is yummy to me plus it's cheaper

with skim milk, trying to get some mass, but upping the cardio as i do it.

it's bad ass, just too many calories.

Try Cytogainer. Less sugar, less fat, more quality carbs.

t3nchi Ever tried Biotest Grow? Shit's great! have to agree, was surprised how well it tasted...

nice av

Is your muscle milk pretty thin and liquidy? Mine is. My old stuff used to be really thick....

true that with milk i had one earlier today best sdhake ever...god now i want some muscle milk...nothing better

Strawberry is good shit... but like every one said fats make it good. I split ON Choc. and MM Straw every day... just so I don't get sick of the ON

Musclemilk's Cookies and Cream for me...

Yeah I just finished up a tub, good stuff.

This shit tastes good : edit: double chocolate of course

GTP This shit tastes good : edit: double chocolate of course

GTP This shit tastes good : edit: double chocolate of course You should be banned for posting up gnc shit.

Muscle Milk Bannana is good shit as well. I also tried Muscle Milk Smores, it was...OK I just placed an order through trueprotein.comwith the BSL flavoring, it was pretty cheap. Can't wait to try it.

justwhey chocolate is really the best i've ever had

GTP This shit tastes good : edit: double chocolate of course

Mystery Guest Muscle Milk Bannana is good shit as well. I also tried Muscle Milk Smores, it was...OK I just placed an order through trueprotein.comwith the BSL flavoring, it was pretty cheap. Can't wait to try it. please let us know how it tastes. ive gone through 30lbs of trueprotein without the BSL flavoring and it's been gross. still have 20lbs left

terse please let us know how it tastes. ive gone through 30lbs of trueprotein without the BSL flavoring and it's been gross. still have 20lbs left bsl flavoring is the bomb

gsteclipse97 bsl flavoring is the bomb Too bad true protein charges an arm and a leg for it.

So I've been through a shitload of proteins in my time....................

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