So real ephedra may be back on the market again soon.

So real ephedra may be back on the market again soon.

beaten to death yesterday

11teenth post.

Seeing as how it was banned for a reason, is getting ephedra back on the market a good thing?

there will still be idiots using it, and people abusing it.... so i just give it some more time before the media demonizes it again and it becomes illegal again... btw.. does that judges ruling mean it iwll be legal again? or is it just a smallstep?

dunfieldc Seeing as how it was banned for a reason, is getting ephedra back on the market a good thing? they banned it since you can't outlaw stupidity

the ruling doesn't necessarily mean it will be back on the market

the FDA can still reban it, they just need to find new language that won't get struck down

So real ephedra may be back on the market again soon.

Do I have this westside routine correct?

Do I have this westside routine correct?

Do you do 3 weeks of the max effort lifts(im starting with squat) then take a break for a week and start over with a new exercise? or is there something else i do during that week?

omg

size18boarder omg . *11tyzillion

yeah dood, youll be swole in no time

sr20wop yeah dood, youll be swole in no time um ok wtf thanks for answering the question

One of these limitations is that you can¹t train above 90% for more than three weeks at a time, or your body will begin to shut down because of the high demands being placed on it. Since the maximal effort method involves working up to one-rep, your training capacity is up to 100%. We avoid the high demands and potential for overtraining by switching the max effort exercise every 1 to 3 weeks does that mean to simply change the max effort exercise and continue or do i take a break dickheads

sans_pants One of these limitations is that you can¹t train above 90% for more than three weeks at a time, or your body will begin to shut down because of the high demands being placed on it. Since the maximal effort method involves working up to one-rep, your training capacity is up to 100%. We avoid the high demands and potential for overtraining by switching the max effort exercise every 1 to 3 weeks does that mean to simply change the max effort exercise and continue or do i take a break dickheads yes.... sample:ME bench Boardpress 3weeks pinpress 3weeks floorpress 3 weeks MES GM Squat DL

vettedude yes.... sample:ME bench Boardpress 3weeks pinpress 3weeks floorpress 3 weeks MES GM Squat DL excuse me for never doing a westside routine before

sans_pants excuse me for never doing a westside routine before err, its just sorta never indicated any other way...

it was just a question

sans_pants does that mean to simply change the max effort exercise and continue or do i take a break it means change the exercise. But skipping the ME exercise every 4 weeks isn't a horrible idea.

Ceaze it means change the exercise. But skipping the ME exercise every 4 weeks isn't a horrible idea. thanks man

Ceaze it means change the exercise. But skipping the ME exercise every 4 weeks isn't a horrible idea. I've gotten into the habit of taking a week off after every 2 three week ME cycles.

Natezilla I've gotten into the habit of taking a week off after every 2 three week ME cycles. i've gotten into the habit of taking every other month off

Ceaze i've gotten into the habit of taking every other month off BUT HOW WILL YOU GET TONED?

y0gfx BUT HOW WILL YOU GET TONED? Pepsi and pop-tarts are great fat mobilizers!

Petition for Sticky!

y0gfx Petition for Sticky! there is allready a thread or two in the archives about this plus a 4 part article by dave tate on t-mag

Ceaze i've gotten into the habit of taking every other month off welcome to the lazy mans club

Jeg1983 there is allready a thread or two in the archives about this plus a 4 part article by dave tate on t-mag LOL No i meant sticky for Pepsi and pop-tarts are great fat mobilizers!

y0gfx LOL No i meant sticky for Im a moron

Do I have this westside routine correct?

So grouch, what do you think of the ivanko gripper?

So grouch, what do you think of the ivanko gripper?

http://www.ivanko.com/products/html_...pper_info.html



For $34 shipped thats one hell of a deal. The small incriments are what really peaked my interest. I was gonna buy some of the coc grippers but I think I am gonna pick this up instead.

i might pick this up. But that's been around for a long time and it's never been as popular as the CoC... i'm sure there's a reason for it

probably cause it looks ugly and doesn't look nearly as good as the CoC's.

damn i think im going to purchase these, i was going to get some CoC but i wasnt sure what resistance, this solves that problem

its big and bulky, thats one problem with it...

Jeff Coleman damn i think im going to purchase these, i was going to get some CoC but i wasnt sure what resistance, this solves that problem they aren't the same either... coc's axis of rotation is much closer to the hand... its not identical

Large portions of grip enthusiast have it. It's a good piece of equipment. HUGE range of adjustability and you can add more springs to it. It's biggest down fall is that the handles are rather thin, flat and slick so it can be a little tough to get comfortable with. You will definitely want to wrap it in athletic tape. Most people use it for heavy negatives though by closing it with 2 hands and releasing it with 1. There are imitation ones on EBay but I have no idea on the quality of them. I wouldn't mind having one but it's not something that I really need at this time.

http://www.angelfire.com/ar/mathgod/...ergripper.html For those planning on getting it, here's a weight calculator. I have some thick foam padding I can add so it sounds like the perfect thing for me. I can't wait to get mine

So grouch, what do you think of the ivanko gripper?

FS, candy

FS, candy

I have 1 - bottle of ergopharm product for sale. PM me. iblock

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8/10 for creativity.

I'm selling bans, keep posting threads like this for more info.

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Man this bulking

Man this bulking

Man this bulking shit is killing me. Ive never eaten so much in my life, and Im only on week 1. 3k - 4k+ calories a day is a killer. I think I need to mix up a couple more shakes into this "eat all the fuck you can, and more" diet.

Jsweet Man this bulking shit is killing me. Ive never eaten so much in my life, and Im only on week 1. 3k - 4k+ calories a day is a killer. I think I need to mix up a couple more shakes into this "eat all the fuck you can, and more" diet. or just eat denser foods, or man the fuck up, it aint hard to eat!!

It gets easier the more you do it. At least for me.

3-4k isnt even that much

im currently sitting bored. so im making a pot of pasta.

try 6 smaller meals instead of 3 big ones 500-650 cals each the ecy of bulking. edit: careful though, its been banned...

yeah, get high a lot and eat shitloads of sweets, you'll get your calories just fine

I had trouble getting over 4k til my stomach grew. Eventually I was making two 1100 cal shakes a day (1 cup oats, 1.5 vit d. milk, 3 scoops whey, 2 tbsp oil or pbutter) in addition to a couple good sized meals. Those shakes REALLY help. Eventually I got used to 'em and managed to eat a decent sized meal, and then throw one back right afterwards.

I just ate over 1k calories in 15 minutes, man the fuck up.

evi1eddie the ecy of bulking. edit: careful though, its been banned... I fucking hate smoking up cause i get all kinds of hungry, and I can't resist food when I'm baked So I eat, then I sleep.

jonno 3-4k isnt even that much my power lifting friend eats about 12 k a day, 6'3 350 ish.

cj48045 my power lifting friend eats about 12 k a day, 6'3 350 ish. Damn... That dude is huge! What kind of BF% is that?

Mike McShit garry frank = the hulk lou ferrigno = the hulk

I can't say I understand why people have problems bulking.. that's the easy part

no way, cutting is way easier

Ceaze no way, cutting is way easier Maybe with a knife.

trancezj Maybe with a knife. it's even easier than that

garry frank's diet: Breakfast 20 Egg White Omelet 4 Egg Yolks 4 Cups of Rolled Oats 2 Bananas 4 Tablespoons of Flax Seed Oil Multivitamin Packet 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes 24 ounces of Water Mid Morning Snack 4 Scoops of Whey/Miscellar Casein Protein Formula 32 ounces of Skim Milk 1 cup of Cottage Cheese 4 tablespoons of Flax Seed Oil 24 ounces of Water 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes 10 grams of Glutamine Peptides Lunch 1 pound of lean skinless Chicken Breasts 4 cups of Brown rice 4 Cups of Salad 6 Tablespoons of Olive oil 24 ounces of Water 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes 10 grams of Glutamine Peptides Mid Afternoon Snack 4 Scoops of Whey/Miscellar Casein Protein Formula 32 ounces of Skim Milk 4 tablespoons of Flax Seed Oil 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes 10 grams of Glutamine Peptides Dinner 2 pounds of Lean Sirloin Steak 4 baked potatoes 4 cups of Green Salad 6 Tablespoons of Olive Oil 20 ounces of Water 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes Pre-Workout 1 pound of Chicken Breasts 4 Cups of Sweet Potatoes 4 tablespoons of Flax Seed Oil 20 ounces of Water 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes 10 grams of Glutamine Peptides During Training Anthony's Secret "Training Formula" 64 ounces of Water Post-Workout 24 ounces of Water Anthony's Secret Post Workout Formula containing over 15 different Ingredients 1000mg of Vitamin C Bedtime Meal 4 Scoops of Whey/Miscellar Casein Protein Formula 32 ounces of Skim Milk 4 tablespoons of Flax Seed Oil 2 Cups of Cottage Cheese 1000mg of Vitamin C 10 grams of Glutamine Peptides Digestive Enzymes http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/anthony33.htm

Ceaze it's even easier than that Plasma torch?

christophers i feel like such a girl dieting. haha, yeah, especially when you eat out somewhere.

Mike McShit 12k he was north americas strongest man 99 so lick me !

i bet he shit a small baby giraffe 3 times daily

Just finished up my GNC Weight Gainer 1849 or w/e, recommend me a decent tasting weight gainer I can supplement into my diet.

christophers when i went from 180 some to 220 i ate 6000-7000 cals a day easy everyday of "CLEAN" food. that ws too much food for me and my metabolism but still. bulking is fun shit. dieting is so fucking gay, i feel like such a girl dieting. If you were to do it again, would you keep calories the same? less? not care about the type of food as much?

Jsweet Just finished up my GNC Weight Gainer 1849 or w/e, recommend me a decent tasting weight gainer I can supplement into my diet. Real Gains has been good for me.

Man this bulking

attn:brolys

attn:brolys

do you guys do anything physical besides weightlifting? like sports? discuss.

snowboard in winter

christophers i play ping pong occasionaly you're also the CA m+m eating champion

i was really athletic before i found counter strike my sophmore year in HS

Basketball, volleyball, run and I will play anything else at any chance I get. Weightlifting is new to me.

I like to play pool sometimes when I'm drunk

wrestled for my college last year, train jiu jitsu at Dave Terrells academy when i can afford it

I used to ski but thats about it I was gonna play rugby this year but I realized I don't like team sports

snowboarding in the winter, motorcycling, golf and planning to learn to scuba dive in the summer

oh.. i golf too

Baseball= best activity ever. True story^^

snowboarding, paintball and martial arts. i'm thinking about taking up brazilian jiu jitsu.

nope

tenis, basqeubol, climbing, running, whitewater kayaking, soccer

I used to play hockey, but now I don't

Mistich i was really athletic before i found counter strike my sophmore year in HS Haha well i'm not the only one. I do a little running and i'm hoping to get back into mountain biking before too long.

i play all sports, well pretty much all

I play pool, darts...both my parents and inlaws have pools, so i will be swimming alot over the summer. I use to play basketball and cheerleading in HS.

golf/baseball

I golf and play hockey every once in a while. During the winter I ref hockey on a regular basis. Oh, I also ride motorcycles which gets pretty tough if you are riding hard.

evi1eddie i'm thinking about taking up brazilian jiu jitsu. ...LA has some good academys

i play basketball w little brother or tee off my deck into the field at night. im considering making use of the soccer field in the summer.

wrestling, bball, baseball, football, frisbee golf...shit you name it ill play

Running, football, maybe baseball in a few weeks.

basketball edit: if the non 46' vertical black guys arent playing

attn:brolys

HP_84 approves quinoa. only grain with complete protein.

HP_84 approves quinoa. only grain with complete protein.

"Quinoa has excellent reserves of protein, and unlike other grains, is not missing the amino aicd lysine, so the protein is more complete (a trait it shares with other "non-true" grains such as buckwheat and amaranth). The World Health Organization has rated the quality of protein in quinoa at least equivalent to that in milk." http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshel...523,74,00.html for canadians to get this shit, hit up your local bulk barn. they sell organic quinoa, it seems expensive for the amount you get, but when you cook it, the shit blows up. also, it doesn't taste bad at all either...has a very nice texture. looking forward to christoff entering this thread to recommend m&m's instead.

i have better lifting technique than you

Grouch i have better lifting technique than you i doubt it. but that's not the point of this thread.

Nutrition Chart Quinoa/1/2 cup dry Calories 318 Total fat (g) 4.9 Saturated fat (g) 0.5 Monounsaturated fat (g) 1.3 Polyunsaturated fat (g) 2 Dietary fiber (g) 5 Protein (g) 11<---complete protein, unlike oats. Carbohydrate (g) 59 Cholesterol (mg) 0 Sodium (mg) 18 Riboflavin (mg) 0.3 Vitamin E (mg) 4.1 Copper (mg) 0.7 Iron (mg) 7.9 Magnesium (mg) 179 Manganese (mg) 1.9 Phosphorus (mg) 349 Potassium (mg) 629 Zinc (mg) 2.8

HP_84 i doubt it. but that's not the point of this thread. no no I really do. even in my diet i still lift more than you. and finally, no one cares what this thread is about because you are a douche bag.

Grouch no no I really do. even in my diet i still lift more than you. and finally, no one cares what this thread is about because you are a douche bag. dont make me come to gilroy. i pay you and goatboy a visit. i doubt it would be hard to find your ugly mug.

HP_84 dont make me come to gilroy. i pay you and goatboy a visit. i doubt it would be hard to find your ugly mug. Come get it you prepubescent little bitch.



Grouch Come get it you prepubescent little bitch. i got some candy for you.

fyi.. i strike like a ninja, you wouldn't even know what hit you.

HP_84 i got some candy for you. No it works the other way around. Remember you're the little girl and I'm the predator.

I'd eat that shit if it makes you strong enough to military press your own bodyweight

:wtfpentuphomosexualdesires:

Ilyusha:wtfpentuphomosexualdesires: HP_84 is a MAN!!!???

Grouch No it works the other way around. Remember you're the little girl and I'm the predator. HP_84 fyi.. i strike like a ninja, you wouldn't even know what hit you. ninja bitch. you could be 6 feet 10 300lbs for all i care. but when you see that 5'9'' mother fucker pop out of your closet in the middle of the night attacking your head with a baseball bat, then you'll know who the real predator is...bitch.

This is the gayest thread I've ever seen.

Are you 12?

HP_84 ninja bitch. you could be 6 feet 10 300lbs for all i care. but when you see that 5'9'' mother fucker pop out of your closet in the middle of the night attacking your head with a baseball bat, then you'll know who the real predator is...bitch. you really fucked up this thread.

HP_84 approves quinoa. only grain with complete protein.