Growing taller?

Growing taller?

Is there a way i can grow taller, i thought about getting nutrition and sleep as well as huge intakes of calcium anything else i should know?

other than hormone injections, you'll grow as far as your genetics will take you

what about weight lifting doesnt that stunt your growth?

acceptance > you

Mike McDermott I wish I was a little bit taller... ...wish I was a baller...

oh really. i wanna paper mat. how about that. ibthreadlocked

Atenza6i oh really. i wanna paper mat. how about that. ibthreadlocked And a six four Impala

how old are you? your growth plates may have closed already. If this is the case, you can at least work on your posture.

I highly dislike being a shorter person (5' 8") but I am getting over it. it's what God gave me and theres nothing I can do about it. Just go to the gym and build big muscles to compensate

damiand ...wish I was a baller... I wish I had girl that looked good, I would call her.............

LEX XIV how old are you? your growth plates may have closed already. If this is the case, you can at least work on your posture. what's the range for the ages they close at? and average closure age??

Whats this growth plate? I'm 19 and 5'8"....(I'm asian )I wanna be 6'3" :O

Till what age does the body grow again? Last i heard it was 25. Im 6'2" at 18 years old, i dont want to grow any more.

Best you can hope for is follow a typical bodybuilder's bulking diet. I would'nt skip the weight lifting. It will only stunt growth if you lift stupidly large amounts of weight, it will probably help by increasing you testosterone levels and thus making you grow taller. Of course supplementing with calcium will help, but an actual calcium deficency won't stunt your growth. You won't need to worry about this anyway if you're following a proper bulking diet with all the vitamins and minerals properly supplemented. It makes sense, a bodybuilders aim is too increase cell devolpment to the maximum amounts and the same is with people who want to grow taller. Go to the doctor if you want you're growth plates checked. I'm short, but I won't ever grow any taller. I've just learnt to except it. It has advantages e.g. I can pull bigger weights in the gym. In this day and age, height really is only a problem in social situations.

DTR rex I highly dislike being a shorter person (5' 8") but I am getting over it. it's what God gave me and theres nothing I can do about it. Just go to the gym and build big muscles to compensate thats what most short guys do

isn't too much calcium bad for you? something about your bones being calcified, whatever that means.

BlkGS3 Till what age does the body grow again? Last i heard it was 25. Im 6'2" at 18 years old, i dont want to grow any more. I'm 6'3 (turning 18 on the 28th) and if I grow another inch, I'm gonna get my legs removed.

who? what's the range for the ages they close at? and average closure age?? I have searched through many medical websites and many of them differ slightly in their numbers. What was generally said was that men stop growing in their early 20's and some as late as 25. Women tend to stop at 19 to 21. A simple body calculator for men (inches):Your height potential = (Height of Mother + Height of Father + 5)/2 For example, my calculated height 68.5 inches (5'8.5") and my actual height is just under 5'9" at 20 years old 68.5" = (60" + 72" + 5)/2 Check out this link for more info and a body height calculator: http://www.teengrowth.com/index.cfm?...ubdesc=Puberty Be skeptical of what you read on the net.

y0gfx Whats this growth plate? I'm 19 and 5'8"....(I'm asian )I wanna be 6'3" :O Im asian and 6'04" There are a lot of downsides to being taller... As well as a plethora of great ones... keep that in mind when I have to buy a coach airline ticket, go to mexico, buy clothes, eat and have to arch my back in some restaurants with the low decor.

You can always have your legs broken then seperated so they can grow longer.

Grouch And a six four Impala :word:

NoXeN thats what most short guys do LOL Although at this point i GUESS i'm satisfied w/being 5'8" (I'm taller than some of my friends ) My goal IS to become broly. However. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be TALL and BROLY, is there? edit: And to that average thing. My dad is 5'2" and mom 5'3". I'm way past my potential... edit2: make that 5'2" + 5'8 /2....5'5 average? [site makes me add 6 to my mom to assume she was a man ]

17 y/o korean and 5'8'' here, parents are 5'2'' and 5'6''

short isn't as bad as most guys and shallow girls make it out to be. I like a guy to be close to my height. (5'8") it makes perfect

~*Pogovina*~ short isn't as bad as most guys and shallow girls make it out to be. I like a guy to be close to my height. (5'8") it makes perfect I banged the shortest girl ever two nights ago Needless to say, it was awesome. 5'1"

Growing taller?

bench press

bench press

my left shoulder gets a sharp pain when i bring it all the way down to my chest, if i go like4 inches about my chest, it doesnt hurt, any way to fix this or what should i do

yea i have this problem too, didnt know that tucking your elbows in would fix it though gotta try that next time at the gym

I am not a fan of benching.

tize i bet you're a fan of listening to APC in a dark closet how did you guess?

2 board press

bench press

Ok, is this a good routine, v. Im a moron.

Ok, is this a good routine, v. Im a moron.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/luis10.htm I do this 4 days a week, excersize 1, mon fri. excersize 2, tuesday and thursday.

lose fat, gain muscle mass, get stronger are my goals.

If you're juicing maybe.

killerZees loose fat, gain muscle mass, get stronger are my goals. one of your goals is to have loose fat? i kid i kid

for your goals its fine just getting in shape is not that complicated and there are no super duper extra secret special kgb workouts to do. Just lift weights, eat right, rest, repeat.

Ok, is this a good routine, v. Im a moron.

The best myspace thread evar!!!1

The best myspace thread evar!!!1

Sorry about all the outside thread posting, but main forum fitness threads simply don't happen enough to be entertaining. Anyone who knows anything about M1t, Ph's, and steroids needs to take a quick look at this. http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...20050428131429 Some quick highlights The starter M1T, Does anyone know if this pill is still legal to take? I got it from Total Fitness like 4 weeks ago and have already done a 2 week on-2 week off cycle. I have now been told that this M1T pill is illegal to take in the United States of America. The lackies i have 5 bottles of 20mg lol i took hawthorne berry, milk thistle w/ cranberry extract ill be alright...worse comes to worse ill get surgery! :P would takin an anti estregen while on your cycle affect the positive effects of m1t..? i am on cycle right now.? and how long does m1t stay in your system.. and when i stop takin it.. will i lose all mass/strength gains..? reply back please.. oh yeah.. where can i get an anti estregen..!? This site is better than collegehumor.

i can only read about 1 or 2 posts at a time before I started or at teh absolute idiocy in the threads

The best myspace thread evar!!!1

is it ok to work out when sick?

is it ok to work out when sick?

my whole family is sick with the runny nose, sore throat, congestion crap. i noticed this morning at the gym that my workout was twice as hard to do as usual and i think it's because i'm getting sick as well. i have a runny nose but that's it so far. it's ok if i still go to the gym tomorrow right? its my cardio day and i'm trying to lose weight so i really want to go but not if it's going to hurt me

i'd stay home for a couple of days and just keep your diet in check

i say its fine to work out when your sick... might be as hard... but it just makes me feel like ive accomplished more when i do it...

I actually enjoy working out when I'm sick, as it makes me feel a lot better. Make sure to drink extra water though.

XsLiCk i say its fine to work out when your sick... might be as hard... but it just makes me feel like ive accomplished more when i do it... i've heard that when you work out it lowers your immune system for a short time. is this true? if so that would just make me get even sicker.

I usually go when I'm sick, put i get nowhere close to my max numbers, and i don't do cardio.

dude, when your sick your body uses EVERYTHING you have towards your immune system, so if you're not fully recovered from a workout then you're weakening your immune system because your body has to use resources for recovery as well. rest, sleep fucking sleep and eat easily digestible foods. are we talking about like a fever here? cuz if we are, stay warm as hell and take hot baths, eat alot of vitamin C, and help flush it out. just dont workout, a few days getting well is better than risking it getting worse and being out for longer. you're not gonna lose any gains.

not a good idea as stated above

ryazbeck dude, when your sick your body uses EVERYTHING you have towards your immune system, so if you're not fully recovered from a workout then you're weakening your immune system because your body has to use resources for recovery as well. rest, sleep fucking sleep and eat easily digestible foods. are we talking about like a fever here? cuz if we are, stay warm as hell and take hot baths, eat alot of vitamin C, and help flush it out. just dont workout, a few days getting well is better than risking it getting worse and being out for longer. you're not gonna lose any gains. who are you talking to im a girl, and its a runny nose...no fever. no infection as someone else mentioned...just a runny nose.

superbri007 your a girl and you are in the "pussyfeelgood club"? as opposed to the pussyhurt crew

I'm with the others who said it's not a good idea. Rather take a few days off and get lots of rest so you can return to full health sooner. I tried to tough it out at the gym when I got sick last month and what was just a routine common cold ended up taking over a week to go away. Rest up

superbri007 I have mixed opinions. I have been lifting with bronchitis for the past month...and I wonder why I still have bronchitis So part of me says it keeps your immune system low. But when I don't lift, I feel depressed and anxious, which also lowers the immune system. so its 6 of one, or half a dozen of the other now I'm on a 5 day anti-biotic for my infection I've had some bad luck with my lifting schedules the past few months from injuries and colds Oh well, once spring comes by, no more flu season, no more being cooped up in college dorm rooms with the heat blasting and germs spreading yeah im kinda torn too. i get sad just thinking about not going to the gym tomorrow. but i don't want to get sicker either. i'm drinking OJ to boost my immune system. and i saw a commercial for these new immune system boosting drinks...so i might go get some of those.

Larry Lex I'm with the others who said it's not a good idea. Rather take a few days off and get lots of rest so you can return to full health sooner. I tried to tough it out at the gym when I got sick last month and what was just a routine common cold ended up taking over a week to go away. Rest up ok. i hate this...i really want to go o well, i better rest

I think its okay...depending on how sick you are. I like to for psychological reasons. I would just stick to light cardio though at most. Working out with weights supposedly taxes the immune system in the hours following the workout.

timberwolf I think its okay...depending on how sick you are. I like to for psychological reasons. I would just stick to light cardio though at most. Working out with weights supposedly taxes the immune system in the hours following the workout. i would just walk on the treadmill for 90 mins....the most intense would be a brisk 3.6 mph walk on a incline of 7.

cbrpimp I dont so i dont get people at the gym sick that's where i got sick....damn people not cleaning off the freaking machines after they use them but i dont thin i would get anyone sick from using a treadmill that i wpie off afterwards

superbri007 just cause you see it on tv doesn't mean its going to work get some echinacea, vitamin C + zinc lozenges, and get some low acid OJ don't hit me...o wait..slap me harder i have the lozenges and dayquil (my SO is sick so he bought it) and i've been drinking OJ.

cold - yes sick - no

nic379 that's where i got sick....damn people not cleaning off the freaking machines after they use them but i dont thin i would get anyone sick from using a treadmill that i wpie off afterwards Isn't there some viruses that are supposedly mostly found in gyms? You should get back at them by not wiping.

the people at your gym are going to hate you when you get them all sick.

timberwolf Isn't there some viruses that are supposedly mostly found in gyms? You should get back at them by not wiping. I clamp 45 lb plates under my armpits while rubbing my ass crack along the bar and coughing on the bench press.

timberwolf Isn't there some viruses that are supposedly mostly found in gyms? You should get back at them by not wiping. i'm not a mean person though i wish i was...but i'm not. i even went out and bought my own antibacterial wipes so i could clean after myself. I'm kind of an ass about it though....i make sure EVERYONE that is even remotely near me sees me cleaning up after mylsef so that they might think "hey i should do that too"

Silver85327 the people at your gym are going to hate you when you get them all sick. i hate them for getting me sick...and no two wrongs dont make a right...but i dont think i will get anyone sick....i wipe after myself and i dont talk to or breath on anyone

superbri007 your one of those girls my aim screen name is the same as this name you bolded the wrong part the "my SO" part should have been

i worked out a couple times when i was sick, all it did was make me feel worse and increase the length of the cold

is it ok to work out when sick?

Official: New Years 2005 Challenge! Come on in and register!

Official: New Years 2005 Challenge! Come on in and register!

I guess I'll be organizing this new challenge.. I suppose it should go for a few months (I'm guessing 12-16 weeks), I'll settle that within the first few posts and edit this. Anywho, I want your Username/Real Name/Height/Weight/Big 3 (Squat, DL, Bench)/and a frontal picture and a picture of your back. I will put together an Excel spreadsheet and post it on my site: http://www.countinginfinity.net Post your picture here or mail it to me with "OT Fitness Challenge" in the subject, along with your username and stats and I will put them on the page for easy hosting, so there arent any by the time this challenge is over. When the allotted time has expired, I will post all of the pictures/stats (both old and new) on my site along with a poll; we will vote for who has improved the most, both in strength gains and in size gains. The winner in each category will receive a tub of whatever protein mix or supplement/item they want <$35 from me (they can choose it from 1fast400 or bodybuilding.com, just email me your address if you happen to be the winner). Well, get eating..get lifting. Good luck! Also, I'm eligible since it's a public vote EDIT: Once you've submitted all the stats/pics/etc to me, go ahead and repost it here so everyone knows what they're up against! EDIT 2: Start and Ending Dates. The official start date begins ONE WEEK FROM TODAY, January 10th, 2005. You may edit your posts and emails between now and then, but after that deadline, you're done. The competition will last Until April the 10th, unless a majority of people have a problem with a 3 month challenge. You will be INELIGIBLE if you do not email me your stats, along with posting them here. I repeat: if i dont have them, you're not in! The Spreadsheet will be updated DAILY on my site. EDIT 3: Pictures/Poses actually, you can pose however you want, but that's the pose you will need to do again for comparisons. i.e. Lat spread now, lat spread then. You can submit up to 2 pictures. Let the games begin. (well, on the 10th ) All of this is subject to change until the 10th when EVERYTHING becomes final. SEND ALL EMAILS TO mikefear@gmail.com

I'll go first, come on in..the water's warm Height: 6'0 Weight: 147 lbs Bench 1RM: 145 Squat 1RM: 185 Deadlift 1RM: 255 edit: pics now

tize whats poses do you need? teh one in my av and the same of the back actually, you can pose however you want, but that's the pose you will need to do again for comparisons. i.e. Lat spread now, lat spread then. You can submit up to 2 pictures. I will edit this into the main post.

tize what do YOU get if YOU win Height: 5'8 Weight: 177 lbs Bench 1RM: 240 Squat 1RM: 285 Deadlift 1RM: 265 you guys can pool in and get me something

when is the official start date?

I think it should be in a week or two because that is when my lower back should be all better.............

KLoWnPR109 I think it should be in a week or two because that is when my lower back should be all better............. I fucked up my shoulder last night I just rememebered I dont have a camera anymore for a while.

KLoWnPR109 I think it should be in a week or two because that is when my lower back should be all better............. Check Edit 2

sounds good i will go for max's during this week and will post on the weekend

Height: 6'4.5" Weight: 200-205 lbs (I stay within that range consistently now) Bench 1RM: 225 Squat 1RM: 300 Deadlift 1RM: 355

Height: 5'11 Weight: 164 lbs Bench 1RM: 135 Squat 1RM: ??? (will find out) Deadlift 1RM: ??? (will find out)

height: 5-10 weight: 195 bench 1rm: no clue, but not much squat 1rm: same deadlift: same

height: 5'8 weight: 155 bench: 205 squat: 275 deadlift: 375

what's ur email addy

Height: 5'8 Weight: 160 lbs Bench 1RM: 205 Squat 1RM: 225 Deadlift 1RM: 225

I need to take pics, i will tomorrow. I yoyo-ed last time and am hoping that the lack of holidays and related stress will help.

indianghetto69er what's ur email addy check the post.

I'm down, and maybee i'll max this week...

mike check the post. whoops... pics sent

Any fatties entering? Or just people trying to bulk up?

EDIT for pics and info 6'1" 211 lbs on the home scale as of this post. I'm still slowly upping my weight since I don't know what I can't put up. So I guess I'll go by reps. 135x6x2 bench 195x6x3 squat 225x6x2 regular dl Trying to get my form down on everything. I did max 315 on dl a couple weeks ago, with what must have been god awful form. Goals? Less body hair Lose most of my gut I don't know what's realistic goal wise, but... 205x6x2 bench 275x6x2 squat 305x6x2 dl That would be great IMO. 3 months? Only two pics for the contest? I understand if you're hosting them, but how about 1 front, 1 back, 1 legs? Bunch of pics from me... Will use first two for the contest.

SilverJettaGLX Any fatties entering? Or just people trying to bulk up? I'm a fatty, I have Mike's body plus 70 pounds of fat. True story!

SilverJettaGLX Any fatties entering? Or just people trying to bulk up? did you not see my post? 5-10, 195... I wanna actually LOSE 15 pounds in the next 3-4 months.

tize 15lbs is easy if thats your goal drop shit weight, maybe put on some better weight. Id really like to be ~ 175 or so and a heck of alot leaner... I feel like im on my way already... havent had a soda or any fast food in about a week... im off of both... and this has NOTIHNG to do with newyears... I just decided to knock em both out.

93CivicEX drop shit weight, maybe put on some better weight. Id really like to be ~ 175 or so and a heck of alot leaner... I feel like im on my way already... havent had a soda or any fast food in about a week... im off of both... and this has NOTIHNG to do with newyears... I just decided to knock em both out. take it one day at a time, a week is amazing!

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What are the advantages of clean bulking?

What are the advantages of clean bulking?

I read through a bunch of the noob thread and it doesnt spell it out, but it seems that it helps you gain more LBM weight, and overall gives you better nutrition. Is that about right? What are everyone's experiences clean bulking vs. dirty bulking? Sorry if this is a repost, I can't search.

Clean bulk = Less work when cutting.

I know what they are, I'd like to know what the relative advantages/disadvantages are of each.

why would progress be slowero n clean foods? doesn't it just boil down to # of cals?

A lot of people think it doesn't make a difference. How much of the excess weight goes to lean body mass and how much goes to fat is mostly determined by genetics. 80%. Its your P-ratio.

So basically with dirty bulking you put on more fat and less muscle? Am I interpreting that right?

food is all comprised of the same chemicals, 'clean' foods are not some magical form of chemicals that adds muscle without fat. The greater the carloric surplus the greater the fat gain, but also the greater the muscle gain. Its just going to be easier going far over the caloric maintenance level on 'dirty' foods. If you counted calories on a dirty bulk and a clean bulk and ate the same level of calories, I'm quite confident the fat gains would be relatively unnoticable

Bulking:Dirty Bulk = More Fat, More Muscle, Less Time Clean Bulk = Less Fat, More Muscle, More Time Cutting:Dirty Bulk = Takes Longer to loose the bf, keep more muscle mass Clean Bulk = Less bf to cut, could loose more muscle mass during cutting process than dirty bulk

christophers I agree with wazzle26

clean bulking will result in either really slow/no gains. if you seriously want to put on mass and get stronger, just eat balls to the wall. enjoy yourself too, eat fries and hamburgers and pie and shit. that makes the subsequent cutting a lot easier.

Sweet, I think dirty bulking is the way to go for myself personally. I think I am just going to eat pretty much normally but just add in stuff like chocolate bars, burgers, more pop, pizza. Want to add 10 pounds by July. Edit: I assume you just mean it makes the cutting easier because you'll have only been on strict diet for 6 months instead of 12...I'm hoping it'll make cutting easier because I won't be gaining a bigger appetite, but rather just an addiction to sugar, therefore I'll get cravings but not hunger pains when I cut.

Clean bulking is a slow process no doubt...I believe its for people who have already achieved some sort of serious muscle mass though. I think most kids in here need to eat clean 3-4 days and pig out the rest. Kind of a 50 50 mix. EVeryones afraid of getting fat...well to get to were i am I got huge/strong bloated and fat. Then cut it all off with hardcore diets. You do this over a few times and you come back leaner/denser and better everytime at the same offseason weight. Thats how I get to 260 and still stay 12%ish nowadays. disclaimer... Pl'ers are exempt as usual

PurEvl Clean bulking is a slow process no doubt...I believe its for people who have already achieved some sort of serious muscle mass though. I think most kids in here need to eat clean 3-4 days and pig out the rest. Kind of a 50 50 mix. EVeryones afraid of getting fat...well to get to were i am I got huge/strong bloated and fat. Then cut it all off with hardcore diets. You do this over a few times and you come back leaner/denser and better everytime at the same offseason weight. Thats how I get to 260 and still stay 12%ish nowadays. disclaimer... Pl'ers are exempt as usual nah pl'ers aren't exempt, I plan on going hard until I hit around 230lb, then cut down and maintain strength.

So....what do you guys recommend us newbies do for bulking? Clean or dirty?

I like diry bulking

dirty bulking just sounds more fun

did you guys find you got a lot of stretch marks during your bulking phases?

Rebs clean bulk = looking skinny all the time.. fixed

and i agree with Pur, i think the clean bulking route is for people who are already fairly big and just want to maintain their lean physique while adding muscle and strength slowly. but for the vast majority of people here, i think "dirty" bulking is the way to go and it's not as if you eat nothing but saturated fat...i still ate oatmeal all the time, plenty of omega3's etc.

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I think I will be doing a hybrid of clean/dirty bulking as I want to keep a steady ratio of fat and muscle. Here is the kicker, I bet I could do it fast. For instance, me, who is currently doing 2200 calories, will be going to a 5000 calorie diet to do it crazy fast. The way that I would do it is with steel cut oats, protein powder, dextrose/other sugars, egg whites, tuna, fish oil/flax seed oil pills, no fruits, daily vitamins to make sure I got all of my stuff, cassein protein, skim milk instead of water on steel cut oats and a good 5 litres of water a day. You see, all you have to do is know some shit about insulin and how to use the bodie's most anabolic hormone. By adding dextrose to every meal, you make sure that your food is "absorbed faster". Holy shit I can't wait till I start my bulking phase.. sugar... that is one of the problems though, you get cravings.

dexterium I think I will be doing a hybrid of clean/dirty bulking as I want to keep a steady ratio of fat and muscle. Here is the kicker, I bet I could do it fast. For instance, me, who is currently doing 2200 calories, will be going to a 5000 calorie diet to do it crazy fast. The way that I would do it is with steel cut oats, protein powder, dextrose/other sugars, egg whites, tuna, fish oil/flax seed oil pills, no fruits, daily vitamins to make sure I got all of my stuff, cassein protein, skim milk instead of water on steel cut oats and a good 5 litres of water a day. You see, all you have to do is know some shit about insulin and how to use the bodie's most anabolic hormone. By adding dextrose to every meal, you make sure that your food is "absorbed faster". Holy shit I can't wait till I start my bulking phase.. sugar... that is one of the problems though, you get cravings. are you shitting me?

dexterium I think I will be doing a hybrid of clean/dirty bulking as I want to keep a steady ratio of fat and muscle. Here is the kicker, I bet I could do it fast. For instance, me, who is currently doing 2200 calories, will be going to a 5000 calorie diet to do it crazy fast. The way that I would do it is with steel cut oats, protein powder, dextrose/other sugars, egg whites, tuna, fish oil/flax seed oil pills, no fruits, daily vitamins to make sure I got all of my stuff, cassein protein, skim milk instead of water on steel cut oats and a good 5 litres of water a day. You see, all you have to do is know some shit about insulin and how to use the bodie's most anabolic hormone. By adding dextrose to every meal, you make sure that your food is "absorbed faster". Holy shit I can't wait till I start my bulking phase.. sugar... that is one of the problems though, you get cravings. Sugar to every meal and no fruits...let me know how that works out.

good point.

christophers ya, its up to you. however the person who gains mroe muscle/fat will pretty much always be the one to progress faster, especially if he lose fat fast ala werdna or the kid in our gym. also due to: more weight gain -> more strength -> more strength = more microtrauma = more muscle again, its individual.. but most people simply cannot think long term. its all short term. thats the biggest fault i see daily. shit I think my bodyfat varies with what I've eaten in the last 2 hours. no joke.

What are the advantages of clean bulking?