Thursday, November 28, 2013

inner thigh..

inner thigh..


i noticed that it is not developing as much as my outer one. is there a squat variation to hit it? or should i just keep squating? thanks guys

Do you mean your groin?

you have been lifting how long?

i have a pretty wide stance on squats, and it seems to be hitting there.

steroids.

Socrates steroids. stop being an idiot today

Joser i noticed that it is not developing as much as my outer one. is there a squat variation to hit it? or should i just keep squating? thanks guys whats your bf like? you may just not be seeing your muscle under the jiggly

PurEvl you have been lifting how long? 8 months, i see development on the outer thigh than the inner. when i flex it, i see mass and the "cutness" on the outside but none on the inner part.

gsteclipse97 whats your bf like? you may just not be seeing your muscle under the jiggly im really skinny, i used to be 112, i got up to 142. im about 5'3-5'4.5

Joser 8 months, i see development on the outer thigh than the inner. when i flex it, i see mass and the "cutness" on the outside but none on the inner part. If you went deep on your squats you wouldn't have that problem. Now quit doing quarter squats.

ACURA TL-S If you went deep on your squats you wouldn't have that problem. Now quit doing quarter squats. unless you're using a really wide stance while squatting, you're not effectively hitting the adductor group which makes up most of your inner thigh

Joser im really skinny, i used to be 112, i got up to 142. im about 5'3-5'4.5 thats a large variance in height.

AznRyda thats a large variance in height. High heels.

Ceaze unless you're using a really wide stance while squatting, you're not effectively hitting the adductor group which makes up most of your inner thigh I am guessing he is referring to the vastus medialis, not the adductor group.

ralyks High heels.

AznRyda thats a large variance in height. sorry im really short.. oh well i can live with it..haha and BTW thanks for the input, i wish i can post pics but digicam is currently out of action

Do you guys ever squat with 10lb plates under your heels?

Gutrat Do you guys ever squat with 10lb plates under your heels? Like arnold? Only when I want bad knees

KetchupKing Like arnold? Only when I want bad knees Arnold doesn't have bad knees.

just a bad ticker

deadlifts will help

ill chime in...take it or leave it... in order to build inner thigh mass ... when your doing seated and/or lying leg curls...keep ur legs touching at all times....as hard as u can keep your legs together and and point your toes inward...almost if not overlapping eachother... doing that with heavy sets is gunna give you exacty what you need....garunteed!



severedties ill chime in...take it or leave it... in order to build inner thigh mass ... when your doing seated and/or lying leg curls...keep ur legs touching at all times....as hard as u can keep your legs together and and point your toes inward...almost if not overlapping eachother... doing that with heavy sets is gunna give you exacty what you need....garunteed! umm this is ass backwards....pointing your toes inward and putting your legs together will increase stress on the biceps femoris, while pointing them outward will increase the stress on the semimembranosus and semitendinosus


inner thigh..

Create a typical meal plan for me!

Create a typical meal plan for me!


I'm eating better... but i want to lose more weight along with working out and eating better would definitely help. no "where are your nudes" or i will shoot you.

yes. you must not know me around here.

anyone can help??

height and weight?

5'7'' 120

Have you read the weight loss stick

drinkdran0 yes. you must not know me around here. sh0w ur n00dz!!! read the stickies

gonna be tough, and you might want to take a multi-vitamin

drinkdran0 anyone can help?? Read the stickies.

evi1eddie gonna be tough, and you might want to take a multi-vitamin weak, i've done a 1000 cal diet when I was 6'1" 215, ha, with no multivitamins, just flax seed oil.

evi1eddie gonna be tough, and you might want to take a multi-vitamin What'd you use to make those?

Bottom one is www.fitday.com don't know what the top one is.

the top one would be Microsoft Excel

ryazbeck weak, i've done a 1000 cal diet when I was 6'1" 215, ha, with no multivitamins, just flax seed oil. yeah but she's probably new at this. i had excel set for -2 lbs a week at first but i didn't think she would hang with 1100 cals a day.

drinkdran0 5'7'' 120 you seem too skinny as is. why are you trying to lose weight?

bump for the lurkers the excel spreadsheet is from the archives and i've posted the link 11ty times http://home.socal.rr.com/aznthug/Cal...Calculator.zip the calorie tracking site allows you to enter and save your own custom foods with the nutritional information. it's free to register. while cutting i don't eat anything unless it falls within my allowed calories and nutritional split. www.fitday.com put the two together and there's no excuse to be unable to lose or gain as much weight as you want.

create it yourself you fat lazy ass

ryazbeck weak, i've done a 1000 cal diet when I was 6'1" 215, ha, with no multivitamins, just flax seed oil. uh, you win?

DCCapen uhhh that calc says i ought to eat 2900 calories a day, yeah thats too much weight, and bulking or cutting?

evi1eddie weight, and bulking or cutting? It says I need 2800 to maintain at 150 lbs. no way.

AznRyda It says I need 2800 to maintain at 150 lbs. no way. sounds about right. i'm your height and at 150 i was eating 3500-4000 to bulk.

what is your target weight? are you lifting? do you look that bad? i've seen girls roughly your height and weight, and they never looked fat






Create a typical meal plan for me!

Hang Clean & Press

Hang Clean & Press


Anyone have a vid or animated gif of this exercise?

Ah, here we go... http://www.menshealth.co.uk/videos/p...clean/mov.html

hmmm lots of decent clips http://www.menshealth.co.uk/videos/

Draco Ah, here we go... http://www.menshealth.co.uk/videos/p...clean/mov.html I saw that when I was searching for you. To be honest, that lift is garbage. Maybe the weight is too light, but when you clean you gotta generate enough power so you are on your toes at the top of the lift. The only time you see a lifter not get to his/her toes, is when the weight is too heavy and they front squat it. Even then the power generated is enough to cause a heavy stomp upon the come down and catch.

The guy in that vids heels come off the ground, look at it closesly. Even though he is using a light weight, his form isn't that bad. Although I admit he doesn't explode with it like you see O-lifters do.

cavefish The guy in that vids heels come off the ground, look at it closesly. Even though he is using a light weight, his form isn't that bad. Although I admit he doesn't explode with it like you see O-lifters do. yeah, you are right, the example vid isnt too great still, his bar speed seems so slow. I dont think it demonstrates the idea behind a clean very well.

Yeah, someone needs to dig up that Shane Hammon GIF where he cleans 500+

That's a hang pull and press. A clean uses minimum pull where the bar barely changes in height. Like this


































Hang Clean & Press

Going back to the gym

Going back to the gym


Whats up F&N. From the Art & Photography forum I was trolling... willg133 and damn i was almost expecting something from OT...you know what the nicest forum on here is? the fitness forum with all the meatheads....not what you would expect but its the truth...go cook up some noodle soup for yourself haha, thought that was funny. anyways. I posted up the picture of my back with the dam hickeys on it from the acupuncture and acupressure garbage after I hurt my back about two weeks ago. I couldn't walk without pain for a few days, and finally I can move around without feeling any pain. There is still a bit of discomfort when I move my body into certain positions, but for the most part I'm okay now. I stopped lifting for the past two weeks (parents grounded me from going to the gym). I still kept an okay diet, but it seems like I've gained back a bit of water weight from not doing my 45 minutes of cardio as I was used to, 4-5 times a week. Starting today, I'm gonna go to the gym and see how things feel. I'm gonna take another week or two off from squat/dead to make sure things are healed up. I hurt it really bad because about 3 weeks ago, I had a minor back injury, then tried to do squatting as normal a week later, totally screwing over my back. I dont wanna make the same mistake again. Oh and trust me, I'm so anxious to get back to do squats. I'm so eager I flex my quads at home thinking "dam im losing too much muscle" When I get the chance, I'll put up some progress pics. In Feb I used to be around 227. about 3 months later, now, i'm about 215, with most of my muscle still there. Now that I lost a bit of fat, my disproportionality of my left and right lat is much more apparant. also, i can see a "sex" muscle developing on my right side of the body, but not my left. weird. Its good to be going back. Now that I think of it, I'm gonna head out to my gym now.

i've been off for about a month now cause of my work schedule, but i can't wait to get started again next week














































Going back to the gym

quick question v.dl/squat

quick question v.dl/squat


ideally, should your squat and d/l 1RM be the same/close to the same. or should the DL be significantly greater than your squat?

from the numbers ive seen, usually the DL is about 10-20% greater than the squat. but numbers dont scale down well to newbies, not saying you are, but like i DL 260ish and squat 200.

princess0fdiabl0 from the numbers ive seen, usually the DL is about 10-20% greater than the squat. but numbers dont scale down well to newbies, not saying you are, but like i DL 260ish and squat 200. yeah i've noticed that too but for some reason i DL 275 and squat 275 maybe it's my grip thats preventing me from DLing more

sr20wop yeah i've noticed that too but for some reason i DL 275 and squat 275 maybe it's my grip thats preventing me from DLing more no, you should be able to squat mroe than u DL

vettedude no, you should be able to squat mroe than u DL orly

depends on your weight...lighter lifters tend to have their deadlift approach their squat weight but no matter what your squat should always be higher. The heavier you are the lower your deadlift will be in comparisson to your squat but i doubt thats something you need to worry about

GOGZILLA depends on your weight...lighter lifters tend to have their deadlift approach their squat weight but no matter what your squat should always be higher. The heavier you are the lower your deadlift will be in comparisson to your squat but i doubt thats something you need to worry about oh alright thanks broly

Ignore my post.

GOGZILLA depends on your weight...lighter lifters tend to have their deadlift approach their squat weight but no matter what your squat should always be higher. The heavier you are the lower your deadlift will be in comparisson to your squat but i doubt thats something you need to worry about Damn, when I lifted for football I must not have done something right... I was deadlifting 405 and Squatting 340ish Ooops

GOGZILLA depends on your weight...lighter lifters tend to have their deadlift approach their squat weight but no matter what your squat should always be higher. The heavier you are the lower your deadlift will be in comparisson to your squat but i doubt thats something you need to worry about that makes no sense. how can you say that when its a matter of fact that many people do deadlift more than they squat?






























quick question v.dl/squat

Getting a few things cleared up...

Getting a few things cleared up...


Alright, I'm going to be really dedicated to loosing weight.... I'll buy myself a CrossTrainer and some sets of dumbells for now. I'll be eating as much protien as I can, I'll cut down on the fatty shit. I'll stop going to McDonalds (don't really like it, jsut convienient) and other fast food places and I'll pack my own lunches. I stopped drinking soda a few months ago and I haven't had any regular pepsi in like a month Tomorrow I plan on going shoppin for some food Heres my list on what to get so far, feel free to make any changes/additions. Eggs Peanut Butter Low Fat/No Fat Mayo Tuna Chicken Breasts 1% Milk Protien Shakes (if theres any at my grocerie store) Bananns Apples Oranges Carrots Lettuce Oatmeal Cereal No Fat Yogurt Steak Green Tea Brown Bread Okay, so starting tuesday my day will go like this, although I'm not sure if I should do 20-30 minutes of cardio in the morning when I wake up or after in the evening. Breakfast ~ Oatmeal or Eggs or Cereal and a protien shake Lunch ~ Tuna Sandwich w/ Brown Bread Dinner ~ Chicken Breasts w/ Potatoes or something Plz give me some suggestions on my daily meals.... Also, what are some excersizes that are effective with just dumbells? Sorry for all the stupid questions

bump

*sigh* grocery list looks ok. cottage cheese is agreat source of protein as well. just get the low fat kind. i mix mine with some low fat yogurt and that way i get some carbs and protein in one easy snack. I eat about 5 small meals a day because I find that it works best for me. It keeps me from getting really hungry and wanting to binge. also get sirloin or a lean type of steak. you want natural peanut butter, not jif or peter pan or any of that stuff. you don't need cereal. you can eat oatmeal, eggs, lean ham, wheat toast, and so much more for breakfast, don't eat cereal. mustard is better than mayo. also you can get sugarfree applesauce that is good. it's a little tart because it' made out of granny smith apples, but its better than a hard apple, at least to me. when you go shopping, look at cals/fat/carb/ and protein content of the stuff you buy. the more protein the better, the less cals the better. also since you are dieting, i would get the 100% myoplex whey from EAS. it has very low carbs and cals and fat. with 22 g of protien. eat some strawberries or an orange with your shake, thats a snack.

grandgirl *sigh* grocery list looks ok. cottage cheese is agreat source of protein as well. just get the low fat kind. i mix mine with some low fat yogurt and that way i get some carbs and protein in one easy snack. I eat about 5 small meals a day because I find that it works best for me. It keeps me from getting really hungry and wanting to binge. also get sirloin or a lean type of steak. you want natural peanut butter, not jif or peter pan or any of that stuff. you don't need cereal. you can eat oatmeal, eggs, lean ham, wheat toast, and so much more for breakfast, don't eat cereal. mustard is better than mayo. also you can get sugarfree applesauce that is good. it's a little tart because it' made out of granny smith apples, but its better than a hard apple, at least to me. when you go shopping, look at cals/fat/carb/ and protein content of the stuff you buy. the more protein the better, the less cals the better. also since you are dieting, i would get the 100% myoplex whey from EAS. it has very low carbs and cals and fat. with 22 g of protien. eat some strawberries or an orange with your shake, thats a snack. I can't stand cottage cheese, and mustard with tuna is a nono I'll get the apple sauce and that kind of steak, whats the myoplex whey? Protien shake? how much is it? I've noticed that I used to never have the time for breakfast before and I'd get REALLY hungry at lunch so I would over eat I'll take your suggestion and not buy any cereal Also, what about the dumbell question, what excersizes should I do on what days? Thanks for your great response

Inferno69 I can't stand cottage cheese, and mustard with tuna is a nono I'll get the apple sauce and that kind of steak, whats the myoplex whey? Protien shake? how much is it? I've noticed that I used to never have the time for breakfast before and I'd get REALLY hungry at lunch so I would over eat I'll take your suggestion and not buy any cereal Also, what about the dumbell question, what excersizes should I do on what days? Thanks for your great response I can't stand cottage cheese either, that's why I mix it with yogurt. It;s so much easier than cooking a chicken breast or steak or eggs. I can take it with me already mixed up. It tasted just like yogurt, just with clumps in it. http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=1524 http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=82 this sis the one i got. a 5lb jug of chocolate. but i've heard good things about the first link, it's just kinda expensive.

Inferno69 Sorry for all the stupid questions they aren't stupid, they've just been discussed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over..... and over. Seriously, at least 25% of the posts in F&N are almost IDENTICAL to yours. Please read them.

shastaisforwinners they aren't stupid, they've just been discussed over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over..... and over. Seriously, at least 25% of the posts in F&N are almost IDENTICAL to yours. Please read them. hey everyone is new at some point. i was. i like dit when people actually talked to ME and not another poster.

grandgirl hey everyone is new at some point. i was. i like dit when people actually talked to ME and not another poster. I understand what your saying, I'm just pointing out that he's not asking for anything specific to his needs. What he wants to know is the same thing that's already covered in the stickies and a billion other posts That's hy I wasn't mean to him, just trying to get the point across that this forum + the archives have way more/better information than he's going to be able to get from a single post.



I found the other day that cottage cheese with some jelly is really good. Keep in mind it doesn't take much at all so don't overdo it.

is it even possible to get into really good shape with just dumbells and a cross trainer?

why get a crosstrainer? I hope you accomplish you goals man, it'll be tough, don't give up. I would seriously read a lot more posts around this forum tho...

Do you not have transportation? Joining a gym will be the best idea...

MSUSpartan why get a crosstrainer? I hope you accomplish you goals man, it'll be tough, don't give up. I would seriously read a lot more posts around this forum tho... This is a crosstrainer: yeah, I won't give up

MSUSpartan Do you not have transportation? Joining a gym will be the best idea... thats my problem, I'm low on teh monies and the gym is pretty far away...

that crosstrainer gotta cost more than a year's membership fee to the gym! I joined the local YMCA... 20 bucks a month

MSUSpartan that crosstrainer gotta cost more than a year's membership fee to the gym! I joined the local YMCA... 20 bucks a month yeah, its a good deal for a YMCA membership, but the closest one is downtown and I'm all the way on the outskirts of the city, with no car.

instead of spending $400 on the cross trainer why not get a power rack, barbel and bench, and run outside instead?

evi1eddie instead of spending $400 on the cross trainer why not get a power rack, barbel and bench, and run outside instead? And for protein i'd reccommend a 10lb bag of ON whey ( i like chocolate)

evi1eddie instead of spending $400 on the cross trainer why not get a power rack, barbel and bench, and run outside instead? cause for some reason I run longer on a cross trainer [and I don't know what to do with the barbell and the bench, etc. ]

Inferno69 cause for some reason I run longer on a cross trainer [and I don't know what to do with the barbell and the bench, etc. ] if it's harder running outside it probably means you'd burn more calories and be done faster that way. and if you're not sure what to do with free weights, http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html don't make it so hard for us to help you. you ask for good advice and when you get it, you come up with excuses to not follow it. if you were REALLY serious about this, right now we'd be telling you to slow down, that you were working too hard and going to extremes, but instead, everyone's telling you that you aren't even *planning* to do enough. doesn't that tell you something?

Excersizes evi1eddie if it's harder running outside it probably means you'd burn more calories and be done faster that way. and if you're not sure what to do with free weights, http://www.exrx.net/Lists/Directory.html don't make it so hard for us to help you. you ask for good advice and when you get it, you come up with excuses to not follow it. if you were REALLY serious about this, right now we'd be telling you to slow down, that you were working too hard and going to extremes, but instead, everyone's telling you that you aren't even *planning* to do enough. doesn't that tell you something? don't get your panites all up in a bunch anyways, thanks for the link, I appreciate it does running burn more fat then walkin the same distance? by the way, for the link you gave me what are some you recommend that I do and on what days? I'm not coming up with excuses not to follow it, cause' trust me... I wanna loose weight I'm reading the South Beach Diet right now... says that I shouldnt eat ANY carbs for 2 weeks, even the good carbs (fruit) and I'll loose like 7-14 lbs, then I add more carbs into my diet, etc. I'm strugglin with thinking up meal ideas for my day without eating the same shit everyday: Chicken Breasts, Steak, Apples, Oranges, Banannas, Eggs, Tuna and Oatmeal I'll probably get a log in teh subform set up so I can track my progress Thanks for your help man, and trust me... I'm dedicated to loosing weight

diet honestly i think its just easier to go by calories than keeping track of what you can and can't eat like with south beach etc. maintenance calories are how many cals you should eat to keep your body weight as it is, therefore if you consume less calories, you'll lose weight. if you consume more, they are stored as body fat and you gain weight... but i guess you already know all about that http://home.socal.rr.com/aznthug/Cal...Calculator.zip that excel spreadsheet should tell you how many calories to aim for everyday to lose weight. losing anything more than 2-3 lbs a week is not generally considered healthy. diet alone, without cardio or lifting, is sufficient on its own to induce weight loss. www.fitday.com is free to register and will help you keep track of every calorie you eat, and the nutrition split between protein/fats/carbs. the calorie calculator spreadsheet will tell you how many grams of each you should be aiming for. cardio you don't need to go overboard. burning 500 calories doing cardio 3x a week is enough. for a rough estimate of how much physical activity it would take to burn 500 calories: http://www.primusweb.com/cgi-bin/fpc/actcalc.pl does running burn more fat then walkin the same distance? first of all, cardio is mostly about increasing the deficit between calories you are taking in and your maintenance calories, the deficit which you create through your diet. increasing your calorie deficit by doing cardio 3x a week for 500 cals a pop should be sufficient. secondly, don't think about running vs. walking in terms of distance, but time spent doing it. 30 mins of running will burn more calories than 30 mins of walking. weight lifting for the purposes of losing weight, this is much better than cardio because not only are you burning calories while actually performing the activity, but you're also burning more calories over the next two days as your muscles rebuild. this doesn't really occur with cardio. also, a significant portion of weight being lost from dieting is from muscle. weightlifting during this caloric deficit may not cause an increase in muscle mass, but it will help to minimize muscle loss. christophers' base routine: http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1574598 ^ you'd definitely need a power rack for that. and for god's sake it's "losing" not "loosing!" gym time, later

Diet: Don't do any nocarb/lowcarb/nofat/lowfat trendy diet shit. It's all bullshit and after you stop the diet, the weight will come back on. Just eat clean. I know it can be hard and frustrating, but just do it and you wil benefit in the long run. You won't lose any weight by eating no carbs for 2 weeks. Any water weight that you do lose will come right back on after you stop. Eat 5 small meals throughout the day. Stick to clean protein sources (boneless skinless chicken breast, cottage cheese, lean beef, tuna, salmon, eggs, etc. Simple carbs: whole wheat/wholegrain bread products, fruits, veggies, veggies, and more veggies. fats: keep your fat intake from food low. You'll want most of your fat from supplements (fish oil, flax seed oil) to benefit you the most. This is a lifestyle change, not a diet. If you eat clean foods like I listed above, you will lose weight. Also, you seem confused about protein shakes. You make protein shakes, you don't buy them. Go to www.1fast400.com and get some ON 100% Whey. 5 lbs should be fine to get you started off and find a good flavor. Chocolate seems to be everyone's favorite. Mix in 2 cups of your whey, 1 1/2 cups fat free skim milk, 1/2 a bannana, 1 tbs or more of natural peanut butter. Blend that shit up, add some ice, and chug the motherfucker down. Protein bars can be okay if you're on the go or don't have time to prepare one. For exercising, don't bother with the cross trainer - it will be a complete waste of your money. If you're going to throw that much money out there - get a real olympic barbell, an olympic bench, a set of dumbells, and of course a weight set. If you have money left over, get a power rack. These 5 items will do much more good for you than any AS-SEEN-ON-TV contraption ever will. If someone here will help you put a routine together, and you follow it strictly, you will burn fat 5x faster than any cardio can, and you'll be putton on muscle at the same time. It's just better. If you have any more quesetions I can probably point you in the right direction.

xpinchx Diet: Don't do any nocarb/lowcarb/nofat/lowfat trendy diet shit. It's all bullshit and after you stop the diet, the weight will come back on. Just eat clean. I know it can be hard and frustrating, but just do it and you wil benefit in the long run. You won't lose any weight by eating no carbs for 2 weeks. Any water weight that you do lose will come right back on after you stop. Eat 5 small meals throughout the day. Stick to clean protein sources (boneless skinless chicken breast, cottage cheese, lean beef, tuna, salmon, eggs, etc. Simple carbs: whole wheat/wholegrain bread products, fruits, veggies, veggies, and more veggies. fats: keep your fat intake from food low. You'll want most of your fat from supplements (fish oil, flax seed oil) to benefit you the most. This is a lifestyle change, not a diet. If you eat clean foods like I listed above, you will lose weight. Also, you seem confused about protein shakes. You make protein shakes, you don't buy them. Go to www.1fast400.com and get some ON 100% Whey. 5 lbs should be fine to get you started off and find a good flavor. Chocolate seems to be everyone's favorite. Mix in 2 cups of your whey, 1 1/2 cups fat free skim milk, 1/2 a bannana, 1 tbs or more of natural peanut butter. Blend that shit up, add some ice, and chug the motherfucker down. Protein bars can be okay if you're on the go or don't have time to prepare one. For exercising, don't bother with the cross trainer - it will be a complete waste of your money. If you're going to throw that much money out there - get a real olympic barbell, an olympic bench, a set of dumbells, and of course a weight set. If you have money left over, get a power rack. These 5 items will do much more good for you than any AS-SEEN-ON-TV contraption ever will. If someone here will help you put a routine together, and you follow it strictly, you will burn fat 5x faster than any cardio can, and you'll be putton on muscle at the same time. It's just better. If you have any more quesetions I can probably point you in the right direction. You guys are soo much helpful then the folks in the main OT Anyways, you said chug that mofo down... well is that cause' it's nasty? It sounds pretty good Now you've got me thinkin to get that other stuff instead of a cross trainer.

Getting a few things cleared up...

CEE Loading are you supposed to do it?

CEE Loading are you supposed to do it?


I know you dont have to on any Creatine but with CEE is it even needed I was going to load for the first few days but I heard otherwise anyone know?

so I dont load

tize just kidding load sucka damnit stop confusing me



tize well it depends on your goals fuck it im loading for 3 days fuck it I dont care if I waste creatine damn

Theres absolutely no need to load it.

cavefish Theres absolutely no need to load it. fine no loading then

I reload every time.

god damnit! im confused

dont worry about loading

Don't listen to anything tize says, and don't load CEE. And for the record I am using CEE, fucknaut.

tize ive partied out in colleyville before, house fool of fags wanted to beat me up by the time i was done 8)

tize just kidding load sucka i'll take a load on your chest

jonno i'll take a load on your chest in for PICS

FrozynFyre in for PICS you want some too? you are the person who bought me my first av

jonno you want some too? you are the person who bought me my first av I bought so many back in the day I kind of remember

tize wanna buy me one maybe

tize i like this one too much and you know, its me man. i wont let anyone take that from me I was gonna do it to Im not even joking but you said it fucking owned yourself

stupid tize

tize but i need to wait until i find the perfect av ever ya know? like mine? well it's perfect if you know who is in the av

tize yeah urs is good, but i need something perfect to me like my current one...something timeless your current one is holy shit.. dude use the hat pic as your av








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