Will redbull or bawls hurt my gains?

Will redbull or bawls hurt my gains?

I'm bulking and lifting....if I take a redbull or bawls... www.bawls.com daily, will it hurt my gains at all?

quickone I'm bulking and lifting....if I take a redbull or bawls... www.bawls.com daily, will it hurt my gains at all? i had to stop drinking my lost energy drinks because I started taking Lipo6. I miss them sooooo much.

Fuck Energy Drinks.

water. drink water.

Sometimes durin school or work I need them to keep me goin and awake

nic379 i had to stop drinking my lost energy drinks because I started taking Lipo6. I miss them sooooo much. OMG i love lost!!!

forum95 OMG i love lost!!! OMG noone ever knows what it is.....a total of 2..yes only 2 stores in my area sell it.

ideeosinkruhcee water. drink water. I do but I can't drink it for energy

I never heard of lost. I will have to keep an eye out for that. What does the can look like?



i know what lost is i invest in their company

Don't think it would hurt much, get the sugar-free redbulls. But if you're looking for energy, why not just pop a caffeine pill and be done with it. Much cheaper alternative.

Fuck no it won't! I slam a Redbull before I workout all the time!

yes, you're going to end up looking like pokesteve

just do what makes you happy dude. you obviously know its questionable. but here i am eating a cheese danish. & i'm not worried

nic379 OMG noone ever knows what it is.....a total of 2..yes only 2 stores in my area sell it. Lost is really good... Its all over the place out here :shrug: but thats probably because Lost was originally a surf company started out here in So Cal. Its the same brand as the surf stuff

sweetcheeks Don't think it would hurt much, get the sugar-free redbulls. But if you're looking for energy, why not just pop a caffeine pill and be done with it. Much cheaper alternative. I try and stay away from nutrasweet/splenda/sucralose etc....plus I dont like the way sugar free stuff tastes. And idk...I like the taste of that stuff + energy=

Full Throttle, I love. Tastes exactly like the clear opaque gummy bears.

I about you just sleep more?

BuckNut I never heard of lost. I will have to keep an eye out for that. What does the can look like?

superbri007 is it that good, I figured it was just like monster or rockstar energy I think it's the best tasting stuff out there. And I don't know if it was all in my head, but it seemed like it made me feel better than all the other ones as well.

Psyc0 Lost is really good... Its all over the place out here :shrug: but thats probably because Lost was originally a surf company started out here in So Cal. Its the same brand as the surf stuff yeah i read that on the can. stupid texas no surfing people

Natezilla I about you just sleep more? Well I have school most nights until 10:30....then I go home get there by 11...and I still have to eat and do whatever...probably get to bed around 12...then I have to wakeup at 4:50-5:00 for work.

only time i drink red bull is with vodka! and no thats not while working out! hehe

see av for best energy drink

Will redbull or bawls hurt my gains?

Elbow pain?

Elbow pain?

Ok, since my last thread got locked http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1773124 (which was a joke, though I actually did that routine) I wanted to ask you guys a question. 2-3 weeks ago after reaching a new max on bench, I started getting some (fairly) dull pain in my elbow. It definetely feels like it is in the tendon or joint or something, or at least it isnt muscular. One of the weirder, more specific times it hurts is if my elbow is totally folded (forearm parallel to bicep), which happens when im in bed. I tried doing some light db curls today and even that resulted in some pain. And yeah, I should see a dr, and if its not better in a week or so I'll make an appointment. So, have any of you guys experienced similar pain, and if so, what was it? PS, I also have some back/leg/stomach injuries, which is why my workouts are so weaksauce

tize you goin heavy? or is your volume/intensity too high? or is your form a shitbath in a church house like I said, I had reached a new max on bench, so I was going relatively heavy. form was fine, and I was doing christophers, so maybe volume was a little high from what I was used to, but I had been doing the routine for some time previous to the injury. either way, I'm more concerned with what the injury is now, since it doesnt appear that I'll be able to get back into a similar routine in the forseeable future.

if it is inflamed think tendonitis tennis elbow may also be a possible case

Cobra Commander if it is inflamed think tendonitis tennis elbow may also be a possible case that's what I was thinking. I just took some ibuprofen, so I'll see what happens.

tize what kinda warm ups you do son usually 8 reps or so of significantly lighter weight, and usually some bar only reps before that

Elbow pain?

Best way to build some muscle(sp?)?

Best way to build some muscle(sp?)?

Well I've come to a point in my life I want to improve my muscle mass without the use of any crap that will ruin any internal organs ( aka I wont do power protien shakes at all or steriods). I'm pretty average kid around stomach chest legs, not overweight little under weight ( wish I had a pic )... but my arm muscle mass is REALLY REALLY low. Anyone have any ideas of the best method to boost this? Right now I'm lifting weights every day for about 20 minutes doing sit ups push ups and the weights. Any help would be great

read the stickies. but bascially, lift heavy and eat alot. Oh, and there is absolutely nothing bad or dangerous about protein powder.

power protein shakes = kidney and lung failure. steroids = heart and testicular cancer

I've heard bad stories about some of the protein powders. Or maybe that is the energy drink powders. Anyways ok so eat and lift

PreemO power protein shakes = kidney and lung failure. does Nlarge2 count? http://gymratz.co.uk/bodybuilding-su...nts/item47.htm

so does your kidneys and liver get messed up when you eat a can of tuna or chicken breast or a steak? Just read stuff and become informed.



and do squats low and with out the damn pad on the bar.

you need to do some post cycle therapy if you're considering protein powder

Is this an ae?

Yea one of my friends used to drink protein shakes all the time. Now he's dead.

Snowman Yea one of my friends used to drink protein shakes all the time. Now he's dead. Oh my fucking god

Snowman Yea one of my friends used to drink protein shakes all the time. Now he's dead. BWAHHAHAHA!!

Dude, I am so with you on this. I tried drinking power protein shakes and for a while everything was going pretty great. After about 3 weeks of use I noticed that there was something wrong with my penis. So I went to the doctor and found out that I had protein-induced foreskin lesions. Fucking crazy shit man.. don't drink the protein shakes.

Snowman Yea one of my friends used to drink protein shakes all the time. Now he's dead. what brand?

Ilyusha Dude, I am so with you on this. I tried drinking power protein shakes and for a while everything was going pretty great. After about 3 weeks of use I noticed that there was something wrong with my penis. So I went to the doctor and found out that I had protein-induced foreskin lesions. Fucking crazy shit man.. don't drink the protein shakes. wtf...i thought i was the only one. i was just always too embarassed to bring it up to my parents, but my school nurse checked it out and said "yep, its definitely the protein". something about imbalanced amino acid synthesis messing with testosterone gains that affected my genital disformity... ilyusha, where is your doctor located? Pm me with their #. i need some medical attention...

Atenza6i wtf...i thought i was the only one. i was just always too embarassed to bring it up to my parents, but my school nurse checked it out and said "yep, its definitely the protein". something about imbalanced amino acid synthesis messing with testosterone gains that affected my genital disformity... ilyusha, where is your doctor located? Pm me with their #. i need some medical attention... PM sent. I think there needs to be something done.. like a warning on the labels or something.

You guys are awful.

I used to take protein but now I just stick to m1t.

Ilyusha PM sent. I think there needs to be something done.. like a warning on the labels or something. thanks. this is why i frickin love OT. from here, i learned how to take steroids safely while completely getting rid of my manboobs. my penis however, is turning into a clitoris. gosh, i hate this hormonal imbalance that protein put me on. i knew estrogen was really good for me, but i didnt think that too much of it would cause side effects. btw if you want some advice: 1. try not to take protein. it has lots of side effects. surprisingly, large amounts of lettuce will help tone your body. listen to me, i said tone. i know you want that. right? tone. dont forget it. 2. breathing technique is crucial. during the day if you focus on your breathing, making them deep breaths and full exhales, it actually helps you optimize the amount of calories burned when idle, while maximizing muscle growth. 3. take progress pictures of your penis. if you find it shrinking over time, cut down on the protein. especially if you see small scabs like ilyusha and i are experiencing. good luck bro, i hope to hear good news in a few days.

DCCapen My doctor told me that if I didnt quit drinking protein shakes he would report me to insurance and they wouldnt renew when the time came around you're joking right?

chlywly you're joking right? No. Dead serious. My doctor told me the same thing. I'm now on protein parole. They check my blood every week for traces of protein.

Gutrat No. Dead serious. My doctor told me the same thing. I'm now on protein parole. They check my blood every week for traces of protein. dude, just be glad someones helping you stay away from protein. i was so addicted to the protein shakes cuz they were so delicious, chunky and everything. until i started seeing the lesions...

Atenza6i dude, just be glad someones helping you stay away from protein. i was so addicted to the protein shakes cuz they were so delicious, chunky and everything. until i started seeing the lesions... I still get shaky when I walk by a GNC. I can't believe they let places like that stay in business.

curious, whats ae (serious question) stand for? it seems to be the equivelent of a "troll" on other forums.

Best way to build some muscle(sp?)?

shin splints

shin splints

I play basketball and I've had shin splints for a while now. I stretch, ice them, take anti-inflammitories, whatever. even after I rest for a week or two and they go away, they always come back after a couple more times of playing. what more can I do to treat the shin splints? what exercises/stretches can I do to prevent them?

do you have flat feet? don't ice them!!! if anything, you want to add some heat to relax the muscle!!! looks like this is a defintely a WARM UP issue! if it does get better when you rest and it happens when you start playing again, you defintely need to wark up properly.. warm up first, and stretch gently before you start your actual game... that helps.. im assuming you also started to play basketball... its not like you were playing basketball all these time and all of a sudden your get shin splits! eventually, you won't need to do stretching and the shin stretching goes away.. but ur legs have to get used to it first... a lot of my clients suffer from this once they start running, jogging, etc, etc.. and most of the time, its from not warming up properly or they have flat feet, etc, etc my suggestion to you is to properly warm up and gently take time to stretch b4.. if you give me detail info, i can give u more suggestion........

I get the same thing when running. What do you mean by flat feet?

maybe you need more cushioned shoes

look at your shoes, get some more cushioning inserts

is the pain on the front or inside part of the shin?

I saw some McDavid neoprene braces specifically for that. Maybe you shoudl try it out.

wood is the pain on the front or inside part of the shin? inside most of the time

I got some insoles for my old shoes, that didn't help, so I got new shoes. these ones are cushy and feel fine.

devilangel do you have flat feet? don't ice them!!! if anything, you want to add some heat to relax the muscle!!! looks like this is a defintely a WARM UP issue! if it does get better when you rest and it happens when you start playing again, you defintely need to wark up properly.. warm up first, and stretch gently before you start your actual game... that helps.. im assuming you also started to play basketball... its not like you were playing basketball all these time and all of a sudden your get shin splits! eventually, you won't need to do stretching and the shin stretching goes away.. but ur legs have to get used to it first... a lot of my clients suffer from this once they start running, jogging, etc, etc.. and most of the time, its from not warming up properly or they have flat feet, etc, etc my suggestion to you is to properly warm up and gently take time to stretch b4.. if you give me detail info, i can give u more suggestion........ my feet are pretty flat icing them is the one suggestion I've gotten from everyone I know who has had shin splints (people who play basketball and people who play other sports). I always stretch my calves before playing. not sure what stretch I'd need to do to prevent the shin splints. MikeMurder I saw some McDavid neoprene braces specifically for that. Maybe you shoudl try it out. where could I get one? there's a GI Joes around my house that would probably have them, but I don't know of any places like that around school.

devilangel don't ice them!!! if anything, you want to add some heat to relax the muscle!!! Shin splints are on the bone, not any muscle.

You gotta do these walk exercises. Get an area where you can walk like 20 feet back and forth. Do each one of these walks back and forth: walk on your heals walk on your tip toes walk on the inside of your feet walk on the outsides of your feet We used to do them in track practice all the time for shin splints. They work great. You might feel a little weird doing them though.

Davo Shin splints are on the bone, not any muscle. No. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...e:shin+splints

Davo Shin splints are on the bone, not any muscle. I decided to look it up:http://my.webmd.com/content/article/80/96441.htm "Treatment for shin splits includes rest, massage, ice, stretching, and strengthening." I guess I'll keep icing them

Gamblor You gotta do these walk exercises. Get an area where you can walk like 20 feet back and forth. Do each one of these walks back and forth: walk on your heals walk on your tip toes walk on the inside of your feet walk on the outsides of your feet We used to do them in track practice all the time for shin splints. They work great. You might feel a little weird doing them though. does it matter if I have shoes on?

on the bone? Hell no.

raded inside most of the time this is most likely caused by overpronation (foot rolls inward). first thing you will want to do is get a shoe and/or orthotic that will support your arch and help keep your foot from rolling inward. do you have flat fleet or low arches?

Ilyusha No. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-USfficial&oi=defmore&q=define:shin+splints Still considered a bone injury. Regardless, heat is not a good treatment.

wood this is most likely caused by overpronation (foot rolls inward). first thing you will want to do is get a shoe and/or orthotic that will support your arch and help keep your foot from rolling inward. do you have flat fleet or low arches? my feet are pretty flat. I'm going to go out and look for some orthotics later today.

do it without shoes on

we used to do then with a mat on the floor too

rest and better shoes.

Carnifex Shin splints can be caused by the separation of your calf from the muscle in front, generally because the calf is much stronger, so walk on your heels or find something to strengthen the muscle of the shin. It could also be micro fractures but it doesn't sound like it in your case. Also, it could just be shitty shoes / lack of proper stretching and warm up. thank you! thats exactly what i mean on my original post... proper stretching, warm up, building necessary muscles, proper shoes, etc.. about the iceing... if you gonna do that, you have to alternate with heat as well, the more blood goes through the problem area, the better off you will be.. but since i really dont' know the exact detail of your problem and how and when it all started and goes away, etc.. so you figure out accordingly with the information below... generally:Ice treatment is most commonly used for acute injuries. If you have a recent injury (within the last 48 hours), where swelling is a problem, you should be using ice treatment. Ice packs can help minimize swelling around the injury. Decreasing swelling around an injury will help to control the pain. Ice treatments may also be used for chronic conditions, such as overuse injuries in athletes. In this case, ice the injured area after activity. Never ice a chronic injury before activity. Heat treatments should be used for chronic conditions to help relax and loosen tissues, and to stimulate blood flow to the area. Use heat treatments on chronic conditions, such as overuse injuries, before participating in activities. Do not use heat treatments after activity, and do not use heat after an acute injury. good luck!

I've been looking into calf/shin braces. are there specific ones I could wear while playing or could I use any of them while playing?

raded where could I get one? there's a GI Joes around my house that would probably have them, but I don't know of any places like that around school. any sports/atheltic store.

shin splints

ON Whey Mint Chocolate taste...?

ON Whey Mint Chocolate taste...?

I like the regular chocolate, but kinda of getting tired of it. Anyone try the mint chocolate? Love or hate it? Whats your favorite flavor?

love it

I love mint but didn't really like the ON chocolate mint flavor. It was like a chemical mint flavor

I have both ON chocolate and mint. I like them both. Mint a lil bit better.

ON Strawberry > *, bitches.

i like the chocolate. i get tired of vanilla or strawberry

I lubberz teh choc mint

its good

Thats the one im using now.. tastes damn good

I don't really taste the MINT in my mint chocolate. I can smell it though...

Yea I also can barely taste the mint but smell makes it seem like it is going to taste like choclate mint ice cream.

I am getting tired of my ON choclate.

On Sugar Hill The only flavor I've tried is cookies and cream and it tastes pretty damn good. Tha FUCK?! CnC is the most awful whey flavor i've ever had. Chocolate mint smells like minty chocolate, but i couldn't really taste a difference.

On Sugar Hill The only flavor I've tried is cookies and cream and it tastes pretty damn good.

ON Whey Mint Chocolate taste...?

Injured again v.mylifesucks

Injured again v.mylifesucks

Well, about a year ago i was doing deadlifts, i was on my 4th set and was trying to go huge, on my 6th rep i felt a pinch in my lower spine. About an hour later i could barely walk i was in so much pain. It took me 5 minutes just to tie my shoes for weeks. After TONS of money spent on physical therapy and chiropractors, i finally was getting back on track. I had lots of xrays and scans done and it was determined that i damaged a lot of muscle tissue in my lower back. That was 1 year ago. 2 days ago i was doing squats, last week i did 365 for 6 reps on my 4th set, so i was going to do the same this week, i always keep good form, but i feel that my long torso (im 6'2"), puts a lot of pressure on my lower back no matter how hard i try. And on my 3rd rep i felt the same feeling i felt a year ago. The pain is pretty much 24/7, when i sit, walk, try to bend down, brush my teeth, etc. So now my back is totaly fucked again, all that money and rehab and physical therapy for nothing. I will never do deadlifts or squats again, no matter how perfect my form is, this shit always seems to happen, and its not worth tearing my lower back again. Sorry just had to rant

Sorry man. Hope it gets better faster than last time..

i can't do them either. Some people just weren't made to DL

I feel where you're coming from...I fucked up my back putting in an air conditioner last summer (I had before doing deads but it always got better), and it was fairly constant pain since then...it started getting better, and then i hurt my lower back again doing squats. just recently went to the dr, he thinks its a muscular thing. starting physical therapy next month

yeah I fucked my back up along time ago and it seems to be getting better now, I just hope it improves in a hurry cuz I feel like a fucking douche doing curls and extensions

velamint I feel where you're coming from...I fucked up my back putting in an air conditioner last summer (I had before doing deads but it always got better), and it was fairly constant pain since then...it started getting better, and then i hurt my lower back again doing squats. just recently went to the dr, he thinks its a muscular thing. starting physical therapy next month Good luck man, the physical therapy got way to expensive for me, i spent 300$ in 1 month. I first went to a chiro, but i realized that it was bullshit, he tried to feed me a line "My job is to keep your lower back and spine alligned while your tendons and muscle tissue heal" ...what a crock of shit, i didnt feel any improvement from going to him. The stretches work really good, but i think it really just takes time, even though it had been a year, i was still careful, i still have never done deadlifts since the first time, i would have never thought that squats would have been the thing to re-tear my back again.

do you wear a belt?

at least u know what messed up ur back. i'm still clueless as to how i injured mine cuz i haven't done a max attempt on squats or deadlifts this year

The same thing happened to me doing squats about 4 months ago, I took a week break with muscle relaxers, anti-inflams, stretching.. haven't had the pain since. You just need to take it easy on the weight.

Ceaze do you wear a belt? i have one, but never wear it.

PreemO at least u know what messed up ur back. i'm still clueless as to how i injured mine cuz i haven't done a max attempt on squats or deadlifts this year he wasn't maxing either

Injured again v.mylifesucks

Extreme Pure Protein Drink?

Extreme Pure Protein Drink?

Anyone use these? Product Description -41 grams of Whey Protein Isolate (WPI) and L-Glutamine -Only 6 grams of carbs -Only 180 calories Instructions Drink 30 minutes after workout or drink as a nutritional supplement. Supplement Facts Serving Size: 1 bottle (20oz) Servings Per Container: 1 Amount Per Serving % Daily Value Calories 180 Total Fat <0.5g 0% Cholesterol 4mg 1% Chromium 20mcg 17% Sodium 320mg 13% Potassium 120mg 3% Total Carbohydrates 6g 2% Protein 38g 76% Amount Per Serving % Daily Value Extreme Pure Protein Complex 41g * Whey Protein Isolate L-Glutamine Are they any good? Would any of you recommend these? Thanks in advance

Found it here http://www.vigorousliving.com/woexpupr2210.html

I guess no one has tried this? Seems to be pretty good besides price

Extreme Pure Protein Drink?