Shoulder press with the high seat or the low one?

Shoulder press with the high seat or the low one?

Which would be better? It seems like the high back seat (the reclining one) gives better support, where as the fixed low seat makes you bend your back.

I feel the same way.

I can lift more with a higher seat....its because your putting more of your back and chest into the exercise.....with the lower seat, your restricting only your shoulders to push the weight up. Lower the weight and use the lower seat.

tize i like to stand so i can bend with my knees and really kick the weight up Push Press

I occasionally do shoulder press sitting on the floor. It is *impossible* to cheat in this position..just be prepared to get some dumb looks

Elfling I occasionally do shoulder press sitting on the floor. It is *impossible* to cheat in this position..just be prepared to get some dumb looks never thought about doing that I'd probably fall over or something stupid

i like the low seat

the low seat at my gym has foot bars on it, so I can press up against those and dig myself into the seat. the others do not. I like to low back seat

shastaisforwinners Push Press I love push presses, I just incorporated them into my shoulder workout to switch things up.

I like a low back.

Shoulder press with the high seat or the low one?

Clothes worn during Weightlifting/Running or Jogging

Clothes worn during Weightlifting/Running or Jogging

anyone know if it's good better to workout in sweatpants and sweatshirts compared to say a wife beater (aka a-shirt) and shorts? you sweat more. your body temperature is higher so your muscles are warmer. does this help lose fat? or does it also help lose muscle? do you lose more calories this way? i imagine it would be better to wear warm clothes if your trying to lose weight, but how about if your just trying to tone your abs, and stay cut, but add muscle mass?

oh my. yeah the ONLY way to TONE your abs is to do around 500-890 crunches a day, otherwise you will just have a flabby tummy all the time. You can also spot reduce fat, like in your love handles, by using special massage oils. But be careful, if you eat too much protein your muscles will eat away and you will be left with nothing but bone and fat. Muscles can be eaten away and grown really easily but its really a fine line. watch out for that- check the noob sticky on how to turn FAT right into MUSCLE!

No, you don't lose more calories by bundling up or wearing anything to help you sweat more. All you're doing is sweating off water weight which will come RIGHT back and you risk dehydrating yourself or making yourself pass out or worse. The reason you DO see people doing this at all is they're wrestlers/boxers trying to make a weight cut; they sweat off a lot of weight very quickly, do their fight, and it comes right back the next day. They do this *hopefully* under supervision with their coaches though. Dress for the weather/gym..shorts, tshirt, pants and tshirt, whatever; clean up your diet and lift heavy.

joy division oh my. yeah the ONLY way to TONE your abs is to do around 500-890 crunches a day, otherwise you will just have a flabby tummy all the time. You can also spot reduce fat, like in your love handles, by using special massage oils. But be careful, if you eat too much protein your muscles will eat away and you will be left with nothing but bone and fat. Muscles can be eaten away and grown really easily but its really a fine line. watch out for that- check the noob sticky on how to turn FAT right into MUSCLE! If you're going to be sarcastic, at least give some sort of hint. Noobs get confused easily.

Weeeeeeeeeeee

i've been told that spot reduction does not work. u cant lose weight or fat in one area of the body by targeting them. fat comes off evenly from all the fat stores in the body. 500-800 crunches seems excessive. i do about 50 ab rolls, 50 crunches, and 50 leg lifts (roman candles), a day. i hope this will work, do you other guys agree? along with running a mile or two a day. PS: im not fat or nearly overweight at all. im 5'11" and i weight 160lbs. i do have a 6 pac, but its not as defined as i want. and it only appears when i flex. otherwise its really faint. my top 4 pacs are alright, I need to shave that fat from the bottom two pacs located right below my belly button. anyone have suggestions.

Elfling No, you don't lose more calories by bundling up or wearing anything to help you sweat more. All you're doing is sweating off water weight which will come RIGHT back and you risk dehydrating yourself or making yourself pass out or worse. The reason you DO see people doing this at all is they're wrestlers/boxers trying to make a weight cut; they sweat off a lot of weight very quickly, do their fight, and it comes right back the next day. They do this *hopefully* under supervision with their coaches though. Dress for the weather/gym..shorts, tshirt, pants and tshirt, whatever; clean up your diet and lift heavy. thus why boxers usually gain 8-15lbs between the time of the weigh in and the time of the fight.

BlissWitMyBlizz! i've been told that spot reduction does not work. u cant lose weight or fat in one area of the body by targeting them. fat comes off evenly from all the fat stores in the body. 500-800 crunches seems excessive. i do about 50 ab rolls, 50 crunches, and 50 leg lifts (roman candles), a day. i hope this will work, do you other guys agree? along with running a mile or two a day. PS: im not fat or nearly overweight at all. im 5'11" and i weight 160lbs. i do have a 6 pac, but its not as defined as i want. and it only appears when i flex. otherwise its really faint. my top 4 pacs are alright, I need to shave that fat from the bottom two pacs located right below my belly button. anyone have suggestions. have lots of sex

scrawny guys who wear wife beaters in the gym make me sad actually, any guy that wears a wife beater out in public makes me sad....

Alt+F4 If you're going to be sarcastic, at least give some sort of hint. Noobs get confused easily. What's the problem with that

Your shoelaces matter more than your clothes when working out.

Clothes worn during Weightlifting/Running or Jogging

protein shake and the liver

protein shake and the liver

my friend keeps telling me that its bad for your liver. could he be right? discuss.

Joser could he be right? no

i drink on average 3 shakes a day, 2 scoops each. Ive done this for about the past 2 years. I just got my liver/kidney/cholesterol/blood lipids/blood pressure checked from the doctor, and everything is perfect. Tell your friend not to get his news from the media

Jeff Coleman i drink on average 3 shakes a day, 2 scoops each. Ive done this for about the past 2 years. I just got my liver/kidney/cholesterol/blood lipids/blood pressure checked from the doctor, and everything is perfect. Tell your friend not to get his news from the media ai ai captain

wow i thought my friends were dumb

deznutz wow i thought my friends were dumb probably the same type of kid who gets wasted every week

Joser my friend keeps telling me that its bad for your liver. could he be right? discuss. what is there to discuss? your friend is a fucking idiot.

Ceaze probably the same type of kid who gets wasted every week i get wasted 4 times a week and my liver is fine

mike i get wasted 4 times a week and my liver is fine how do you know? And i wonder why you have low test

mike i get wasted 4 times a week and my liver is fine Liver transplant patients < * They are in the worst condition out of anyone in the hospital. Don't drink 4 times/week dude.

I think alcohol lowers testosteron production. Don't get wasted 4 times a week. What's the point really?

Ilyusha Liver transplant patients < * They are in the worst condition out of anyone in the hospital. Don't drink 4 times/week dude. meh, if that were the case than 50% of college would need a transplant by graduation =p

mike meh, if that were the case than 50% of college would need a transplant by graduation =p Most are white males in their 40's who come from small towns in the northern part of California. Mostly Redding and the areas around there.. it sucks man. Liver transplants are a bitch, and most can thank alcoholism for them.

mike meh, if that were the case than 50% of college would need a transplant by graduation =p i'll be in teh hospital next to you broly

whats with F&N broly's drinking....

I dont drink like that anymore but first, the gains ive seen by stopping have been less then spectacular, and two, I'd be lying bad if i said i don't miss those days.

smoke weed!!!1! no calories+no side effects+no addiction+much better, non hungover feeling-the price(for non growers)=teh win.

incubimmer smoke weed!!!1! no calories+no side effects+no addiction+much better, non hungover feeling-the price(for non growers)=teh win.

mike i get wasted 4 times a week and my liver is fine why would you drink that much if your were truly serious about training, especially when compounded with low test?

incubimmer smoke weed!!!1! no calories+no side effects+no addiction+much better, non hungover feeling-the price(for non growers)=teh win. not too mention, its a great aid for bulking

HYEEEEYEYEYYEYEYE smoke weed every day.

Dragon not too mention, its a great aid for bulking and it makes you stupid as fuck (no offense)

SteveO and it makes you stupid as fuck (no offense) For.. like.. 2 hours bro.

Ilyusha For.. like.. 2 hours bro. right.. everyone I know that smokes is stupid as shit. Most people will say the same except for the ones that smoke it, and don't actually see the handicap setting in because it's a slow process

SteveO right.. everyone I know that smokes is stupid as shit. Most people will say the same except for the ones that smoke it, and don't actually see the handicap setting in because it's a slow process I got my best best marks at university the last 2 years when I smoked regularly, and I'd now consider my sucessful engineer doing what I love. I've also know engineers who were 'A' students through HS and university who were regular smokers. So please don't generalize just because you know a couple of people who got stupid

protein shake and the liver

last call for selling a bench shirt

last call for selling a bench shirt

before i put it on ebay. its a brand new inzer. size 46. sizing here: http://www.inzernet.com/how_to.htm also have a new size 3 groove briefs, if anyone's skinny enough for them $35 shipped for the shirt. $15 shipped for the briefs. thanks

You must be swimming in that shirt

Jeg1983 You must be swimming in that shirt no. actually, it's too small. it fits my arms ok, but my lats are too big.

SickLife no. actually, it's too small. it fits my arms ok, but my lats are too big. Then you are not trying hard enough to get it on I am 220 and I can fit into a 46

damn, i wish u where bigger, i ended up with a 52 sirt

Jeg1983 Then you are not trying hard enough to get it on I am 220 and I can fit into a 46 i can get it on. with 15 minutes & 2 people helping. but it cuts off my circulation real bad. & i can't lift my arms out in front of me at all.

Thats how its supposed to fit

You just need to break it in, put it on wear it let it warm up and then bench a bit with it. Just go as low as you can with the shirt on, you will eventually break it in.

Jeg1983 You just need to break it in, put it on wear it let it warm up and then bench a bit with it. Just go as low as you can with the shirt on, you will eventually break it in. it's not a matter of going low. i literally can't even pull my arms out in front of me. they just hang at my sides.

You just need to play with it. The shirt is not to small

vettedude damn, i wish u where bigger, i ended up with a 52 sirt Bro do you have any pics? I just get the impression that you are this massive dude. I dunno measurments if you dont want to do pics and numbers would be awsome.

Jeg1983 You just need to play with it. The shirt is not to small well, regardless. i already have a 48. so i'm selling the 46.

Silver85327 Bro do you have any pics? I just get the impression that you are this massive dude. I dunno measurments if you dont want to do pics and numbers would be awsome. i am tiny.. look in my log...

vettedude i am tiny.. look in my log... K then. That puts my curiousness to ease. I just pictured a Christophers JR when I thought about your posts.

last call for selling a bench shirt

curiosity has me of what christophers looks like...

curiosity has me of what christophers looks like...

he is always giving advice... saying what to do and what not to do... a pic of christophers so we can see if it is legit or not?

/ib hislatpicturesmakeyoufaintanddiscourageyoufromever liftingeveragainbecausethatiswhathappenedtohalfoft hisforum

he knows what hes talking about, believe it. /thread

lol...wasnt there an official F&N post your pics thread? we should make a new one, im sure everyones got newer pics. sticky it?

IBhaha



seriously... i mean i trust that he knows what he is talking about... just wanna see if he uses his own advice...

did someone say drama?

Ceaze are you serious?

Mike McDermott He is a powerlifter, not a bodybuilder. But I'm sure that he is very sexy. Where do you work out at in gville?

XsLiCk are you serious? almost as serious as your obesity.



interesting... im not being a dick about this either i really was curious...

cus he has given me a lot of advice...

Ceaze hahahahahahahaha, thats me in the offseason, I diet pretty hard for shows

christophers edit: I call bullshit.

christophers Lies even for a fat body hes fucking enormous. You could advertise on that thing

christophers wow.

damn!

right, that guy easily looks 300 lbs

404 mohawk not found.

hmmm, in for more pics

If that's Chris then sweet..

wouldn't it be better to not know what he looks like? the advice is all more than helpful for me personally.

i've seen 2 pics of him and i've talked to him on the phone i just need his e-autograph

curiosity has me of what christophers looks like...

Time for new running shoes

Time for new running shoes

I don't care about cost, but I have a high arch, so I need something that will accomodate that. Any suggestions? BTW, these will only be used for running, nothing else.

I like teh Asics for running.

Go to a specialty store Usually they'll have you try on about 4 to 5 different types of shoes. Jog in them outside a bit. for example: right foot- Adidas, left foot Nike go jog a bit outside a bit and see which one feels best and then narrow it down from there. edit- I use Adidas Supernova Control, but my arch isn't that high.

i wear new balance and orthodics when I run

yeah there are many running stores that will do a gait and foot analysis for free.

bryan2137 i wear new balance and orthodics when I run DING! I am partial to New Balance 587s. Maximum motion control and shock absorption. Especially for behemoth runners like me. I may step up to the 991s once I wear my 587s out.

i got a pair of nike air max moto's for 53 bucks when footlocker had a 30 percent off sale. Good deal good shoes.

not the best looking but they are super duper comfortable

new balance 766 seem to be good.

jordan not the best looking but they are super duper comfortable That is what I have now, but I am wondering if there is better.

http://www.phase4orthotics.com/ best 20 bucks you can spend on your feet/knees, give it a try.

Girl_Next_Door Go to a specialty store Usually they'll have you try on about 4 to 5 different types of shoes. Jog in them outside a bit. for example: right foot- Adidas, left foot Nike go jog a bit outside a bit and see which one feels best and then narrow it down from there. edit- I use Adidas Supernova Control, but my arch isn't that high. only worthwhile advice in this thread. I wear aisics gt 2100s for trainers and mizuno speed for sprint spikes.

Time for new running shoes

It's Legs Day :wtc:

It's Legs Day :wtc:

I desperately want bigger legs but I hate working them out because I pay for it the next couple days . I'm just going to man up and hit them hard, pray for me .

Dr. Feel Good I desperately want bigger legs but I hate working them out because I pay for it the next couple days . I'm just going to man up and hit them hard, pray for me . Just man up and do it. The pain goes away after a couple of workouts.

gosideways Just man up and do it. The pain goes away after a couple of workouts.

leg day for me too

I have chicken legs so I am starting to work them twice a week. I love doings legs now.

leg day is the best day

my legs still feel like murder after monday's workout. i just will myself through the next days until they don't hurt anymore.

last time i worked out legs i had a horrible pain behind my thigh, but only on my right leg....was this due to not stretching enough or incorrect form?

sounds like form

They dont really hurt anymore after youve been working out for a while, they'll get sore but it wont be the pain like the day after your very first leg workout

squats > *

evi1eddie squats > *

eliktronix last time i worked out legs i had a horrible pain behind my thigh, but only on my right leg....was this due to not stretching enough or incorrect form? I usually warm up for a minute or two on one of the cardio machines

Just got back from the gym and I'm exhausted! I hit everything really hard today but my legs aren't quivering like they did last week so I don't think I'll be quite as sore as I was last week. I do love the feeling I get after a good legs workout though!

eliktronix last time i worked out legs i had a horrible pain behind my thigh, but only on my right leg....was this due to not stretching enough or incorrect form? i'd go with incorrect form

It's Legs Day :wtc: