So making a shake with 2 scoops of ON is a bad idea right...

So making a shake with 2 scoops of ON is a bad idea right...

I could kill a moose with my wind right now.

2-3 scoops + CEE + water = drinktilyoustink

I use 2 scoops and have no gas

i use 2 scoops 3 times a day

You guys are such pessimists. Having gas just makes for funny situations.

i use two scoops of ON... 2ce a day...

then again i fart and shit a lot...

fiber farts>protein farts

XsLiCk then again i fart and shit a lot... 2 scoops 4 times a day = wow

I have 2 scoops a day max

No 4 scoops no care

I used to take 6 scoops a day and the gas wasn't THAT bad

tize i like to hold my farts in until im in class ill walk by someones face and fart or ill let it loose on the elevator I prefer to crop dust the circuit training area of the gym.

D-GUy fiber farts>protein farts high fibre/protein diet farts >*

Chris3G i use 2 scoops 3 times a day Werd... my shits are the best theyve ever been since I've been on ON Whey. I have a lil gas ... but no more than I'd have otherwise with the stuff I eat.

Dragon high fibre/protein diet farts >* ya I'm with you there...

So making a shake with 2 scoops of ON is a bad idea right...

how do you lose face fat?

how do you lose face fat?

pretty much under your chin and under the cheek area... i've tried jogging, and ive lost some weight and can see the difference in the stomach area, but my face looks the same

read the sticky

lower your calorie in take (eat less), raise your calories burned (exercise more). you can't pick and choose what fat you'll lose. read the sticky at the top of the page for more info. EDIT : christophers' sticky http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1561528

fat is burned globally! If it wasnt u could chew gum everyday and lose the fat from your face.

cool thanks

i suppose you can build up facial/jaw muscle by chewing lots of hard ass gum and maybe get more definition once you bring the fat off. sorta like lifting weights to tone up?

May sound wacky, but my face look a little leaner if I add a quite bit of good fat to my carb meals e.g. A tablespoon of flax and 2 tablespoons of olive oil with some rice and a protein source. It's healthy fat so don't worry about the calories, they're needed . Try it for one meal, it seems to work for me, it may not for you edit - I have abolsutely no science here, just my own personal experiance to what works for me.

ryazbeck i suppose you can build up facial/jaw muscle by chewing lots of hard ass gum and maybe get more definition once you bring the fat off. sorta like lifting weights to tone up?

get bigger traps

kronik85 lower your calorie in take (eat less), raise your calories burned (exercise more). you can't pick and choose what fat you'll lose. read the sticky at the top of the page for more info. EDIT : christophers' sticky http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1561528 .

ryazbeck i suppose you can build up facial/jaw muscle by chewing lots of hard ass gum and maybe get more definition once you bring the fat off. sorta like lifting weights to tone up? wow

sucking 11ty cox and proper diet

NoXeN sucking 11ty cox and proper diet

face fat loss is just one of those nice side effects of proper dieting

Face fat is another thing somewhat controlled by genetics. Look at Marshall Faulk -- one of the best athletes in the NFL a few years ago. He looked like a beer bum in the face.

wow, my face fat is the first to go. I think the tummy fat will be the slow last.

I've always wondered this too, I'm went from 18% to ~14% and my face didn't really change, still chubby, someone said if I get under 10% I should see a bigger difference.

its hard to notice changes by looking at yourself unless it was a huge change. Ask someone who hasnt seen you in awhile. QBoost Controllers I've always wondered this too, I'm went from 18% to ~14% and my face didn't really change, still chubby, someone said if I get under 10% I should see a bigger difference.

when i went from 200 > 180 i didnt notice any changes from my face but everyone toldme i lost weight.

you lose face fat first....

ever seen those really fat chicks with thin faces/jawlines.......its like that...they've got a ways to go

danknuggs you lose face fat first.... Everyone doesn't lose fat at the same places first, sorry.

nathanbx Everyone doesn't lose fat at the same places first, sorry. in general...

i dont lose face fat until im 6% and under

If it hasn't been covered, stop drinking alcohol. I did and people notice the difference.

how do you lose face fat?

Christophers, about your Core strength routine.

Christophers, about your Core strength routine.

I did my squats and DL today as well as BB Bench press I am assumeing this is what you meant not DB BP, and my Incline DB press. I know what you meant with everything except the squats Should I be doing a conventional squat, or what? On the DL should I be doing Romanian, conventional, sumo or what Bro? When it comes time for me to do lunges should I be doing them bare ( i doubt this ) with a DB, or BB. Should I be doing a short stroke lunge or just a standard lunge? Im sorry for the questions, and I am sure I am overthinking this I just want to make sure I do it right.

Silver85327 I did my squats and DL today as well as BB Bench press I am assumeing this is what you meant not DB BP, and my Incline DB press. I know what you meant with everything except the squats Should I be doing a conventional squat, or what? On the DL should I be doing Romanian, conventional, sumo or what Bro? When it comes time for me to do lunges should I be doing them bare ( i doubt this ) with a DB, or BB. Should I be doing a short stroke lunge or just a standard lunge? Im sorry for the questions, and I am sure I am overthinking this I just want to make sure I do it right. Romanian deadlift is different then conventional and sumo.

Gutrat Romanian deadlift is different then conventional and sumo. No shit really ( Sarcasim )

Coventional and Sumo seem pretty similar to me other than the wider stance with the Sumo. Anyways. Romanion is off the wall I dont really want to try it unless I am supposed to be doing it.

I don't get how RDL's are "off the wall"...

Silver85327 No shit really ( Sarcasim ) Well, if you know, then why On the DL should I be doing Romanian, conventional, sumo . Well if it's different, so why compare them all? It would have been better if you asked, Should I be doing conventional or sumo? Also, should I be doing Romanian? Well, I don't want to argue or anything but do whatever you feel is good. For me, sumo is alot easier then conventional. Anyways, your not supposed to do anything. Just ease up on the weight a bit (for romanian), since it is a tiny bit harder on the back (anecdoctal evidence). Are you tall?

5'11" - 6'0" I havent measured in forever since like 10th grade. Sorry about the wording in my first post. I though you were just trying to be a smart ass in your first post hence the no shit. Sorry Bro.

D-GUy I don't get how RDL's are "off the wall"... They just look really difficult on this site http://www.bsu.edu/webapps/strengthlab/exercise.asp I mean they show the dude bringing the weight about a foot out from his body looks like its a good way to get hurt.

summo or conventional should work, it should nto matter, be sure to rotate the two, do bothg, not one or the other. Squats should be box or normal. use a BB or DBs, either will work, i dunno the difference in lunges, i never do em, i would say do whatever u feel works the best.

Since you brought it up what is the point of the box in the box squat? Is it just used as a " stop your just right go back up " type thing or what?

The new AV kicks ass Vettedude

Silver85327 Since you brought it up what is the point of the box in the box squat? Is it just used as a " stop your just right go back up " type thing or what? www.elitefts.com go to articles, click on loue simons, and read his box squating article.

yeah basically read every article on elitefts

Christophers, about your Core strength routine.

Anyone doing this? it take a man!

Anyone doing this? it take a man!

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cyberpump24.htm

Demize http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/cyberpump24.htm Jonno does it..

holy shit, i think ill try but thats fucking insane

Ilyusha Jonno does it.. ...death

20 rep squats

i think id puke all over some bitch on the treadmills

my training partner tried it one time with front squats. Looks hard/fun.

20 rep squats is a good cardio workout

jonno 20 rep squats is a good cardio workout says your heart ready to jump out of your chest and home

Arnold's routine calls for a 20 rep 1st set for squat. Damn that routine was crazy fun.

i do 5 sets of 12 squats...kills me every time..think thats too much? i hear high reps are good for legs and i have been making good gains by doing it

christophers my rep chart 6-8 cardio 3-5 strength singles - what god intended fixed

I don't think i can do 1 squat right now, yet 20

cbrpimp how much weight do you use? this shit looks intense/fun If its what I think it is... You're supposed to use a weight you can do barely do 10 for but squeeze out 20 by taking a few deep breaths inbetween reps. I do these for a few weeks and then wimp out and change my rotune.

LOL... I attempted 20 rep rest pauses last night with 405... I hit 19, but i could no longer breathe... I could have finished it, if i could have gotten some air in my lungs... Definitely a brutal set none the less... NOT good for the CNS though, so must be used sparingly... But that set was a comedown after working up to 617 for 4... So if I had done it fresh would prolly have been telling a different story...

Perplexed Pics of you? ...

tize oh yeah i tried that before, HST is harder 15 rep everything

Achaotic Blend LOL... I attempted 20 rep rest pauses last night with 405... I hit 19, but i could no longer breathe... I could have finished it, if i could have gotten some air in my lungs... Definitely a brutal set none the less... NOT good for the CNS though, so must be used sparingly... But that set was a comedown after working up to 617 for 4... So if I had done it fresh would prolly have been telling a different story... k

Achaotic Blend LOL... I attempted 20 rep rest pauses last night with 405... I hit 19, but i could no longer breathe... I could have finished it, if i could have gotten some air in my lungs... Definitely a brutal set none the less... NOT good for the CNS though, so must be used sparingly... But that set was a comedown after working up to 617 for 4... So if I had done it fresh would prolly have been telling a different story... oh boy

Perplexed Pics of you? I would if i could figure out to post a pic... I have no pics other then whats on a personals site, but not posting that for obvious reasons...

Achaotic Blend I would if i could figure out to post a pic... I have no pics other then whats on a personals site, but not posting that for obvious reasons... http://uploads.offtopic.com/ enjoy and welcome my powerlifting friend

PurEvl oh boy Ok... well i see where this thread is going... So I regret mentioning it... Keep in mind that I am 245 lbs... I was wearing knee wraps, a lifting belt, and squat suit from the early 80's... I apologize for coming off like I was gloating, I was just really pumped after my workout last night...

Achaotic Blend Ok... well i see where this thread is going... So I regret mentioning it... Keep in mind that I am 245 lbs... I was wearing knee wraps, a lifting belt, and squat suit from the early 80's... I apologize for coming off like I was gloating, I was just really pumped after my workout last night... april fools!!!!

PurEvl http://uploads.offtopic.com/ enjoy and welcome my powerlifting friend Thanks Bud! Well here is one from the my last bench comp: I actually have another competition coming up on Sunday, so i should be able to throw up another soon... I am at work right now, but i will get some better shots later on...

Achaotic Blend Thanks Bud! Well here is one from the my last bench comp: I actually have another competition coming up on Sunday, so i should be able to throw up another soon... I am at work right now, but i will get some better shots later on... How much were you benching there?

Anyone doing this? it take a man!

back arch and chest involvement in bench press

back arch and chest involvement in bench press

if a powerlifting arch is used on a bench press is there less chest and more shoulders involved or what? i am hearing varying things from people at the gym, bbers and plers alike

someone explain quick!

This article is your friend. http://www.ruggedmag.com/index.php?t...ticle&i=16&a=4

flat back holla!

back arch and chest involvement in bench press

Help me remember something v.1fast order

Help me remember something v.1fast order

A short while back a fellow f&n member posted some pics of his 1fast400 order. In that order there were a couple of different flavors of Isolate, Grape and watermelon. I'm about to place an order but I can't find that product anywhere. I looked in the past threads but I can't find it there either. Does anyone remember this post??? or am I just crazy.

christophers substance wpi? thats it, i havent tried watermelon but i tried grape. flavor is good but it doesnt mix very well

that's it...Thanks brolys

Help me remember something v.1fast order

Anyone have a problem with their stomach being too big?

Anyone have a problem with their stomach being too big?

I wish it were a little smaller. Not the actual outward appearance, but the capacity for food. I like to eat until its painful, that limit is way too high for me. I can hold an ass load of food. it was smaller when dieting, but its huge now. :-x Anyway to make it smaller aside from eating smaller meals throughout the day?

AznRyda I wish it were a little smaller. Not the actual outward appearance, but the capacity for food. I like to eat until its painful, that limit is way too high for me. I can hold an ass load of food. it was smaller when dieting, but its huge now. :-x Anyway to make it smaller aside from eating smaller meals throughout the day? drink alot of liquids, should help to keep you feeling full, i know the feeling i could eat a large pizza and 12 wings and not think about it.

christophers thick waist = big squat he wasn't referring to waist size, if you read his post

christophers ah shit

hot dog eating contest!

I eat truck loads of food like its nothing! I think all this drinking of water made my stomach huge. I drink a liter in a couple minutes. ;o

AznRyda I wish it were a little smaller. Not the actual outward appearance, but the capacity for food. I like to eat until its painful, that limit is way too high for me. I can hold an ass load of food. it was smaller when dieting, but its huge now. :-x Anyway to make it smaller aside from eating smaller meals throughout the day? I feel the same way. I sometimes wish I didnt have to eat so damn much to get full. Not only am I always the last one eating but it gets expensive too. And its also sucks when you are on a diet, but good when you bulk.

Anyone have a problem with their stomach being too big?