So grouch, what do you think of the ivanko gripper?

So grouch, what do you think of the ivanko gripper?

http://www.ivanko.com/products/html_...pper_info.html



For $34 shipped thats one hell of a deal. The small incriments are what really peaked my interest. I was gonna buy some of the coc grippers but I think I am gonna pick this up instead.

i might pick this up. But that's been around for a long time and it's never been as popular as the CoC... i'm sure there's a reason for it

probably cause it looks ugly and doesn't look nearly as good as the CoC's.

damn i think im going to purchase these, i was going to get some CoC but i wasnt sure what resistance, this solves that problem

its big and bulky, thats one problem with it...

Jeff Coleman damn i think im going to purchase these, i was going to get some CoC but i wasnt sure what resistance, this solves that problem they aren't the same either... coc's axis of rotation is much closer to the hand... its not identical

Large portions of grip enthusiast have it. It's a good piece of equipment. HUGE range of adjustability and you can add more springs to it. It's biggest down fall is that the handles are rather thin, flat and slick so it can be a little tough to get comfortable with. You will definitely want to wrap it in athletic tape. Most people use it for heavy negatives though by closing it with 2 hands and releasing it with 1. There are imitation ones on EBay but I have no idea on the quality of them. I wouldn't mind having one but it's not something that I really need at this time.

http://www.angelfire.com/ar/mathgod/...ergripper.html For those planning on getting it, here's a weight calculator. I have some thick foam padding I can add so it sounds like the perfect thing for me. I can't wait to get mine

So grouch, what do you think of the ivanko gripper?

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Man this bulking

Man this bulking

Man this bulking shit is killing me. Ive never eaten so much in my life, and Im only on week 1. 3k - 4k+ calories a day is a killer. I think I need to mix up a couple more shakes into this "eat all the fuck you can, and more" diet.

Jsweet Man this bulking shit is killing me. Ive never eaten so much in my life, and Im only on week 1. 3k - 4k+ calories a day is a killer. I think I need to mix up a couple more shakes into this "eat all the fuck you can, and more" diet. or just eat denser foods, or man the fuck up, it aint hard to eat!!

It gets easier the more you do it. At least for me.

3-4k isnt even that much

im currently sitting bored. so im making a pot of pasta.

try 6 smaller meals instead of 3 big ones 500-650 cals each the ecy of bulking. edit: careful though, its been banned...

yeah, get high a lot and eat shitloads of sweets, you'll get your calories just fine

I had trouble getting over 4k til my stomach grew. Eventually I was making two 1100 cal shakes a day (1 cup oats, 1.5 vit d. milk, 3 scoops whey, 2 tbsp oil or pbutter) in addition to a couple good sized meals. Those shakes REALLY help. Eventually I got used to 'em and managed to eat a decent sized meal, and then throw one back right afterwards.

I just ate over 1k calories in 15 minutes, man the fuck up.

evi1eddie the ecy of bulking. edit: careful though, its been banned... I fucking hate smoking up cause i get all kinds of hungry, and I can't resist food when I'm baked So I eat, then I sleep.

jonno 3-4k isnt even that much my power lifting friend eats about 12 k a day, 6'3 350 ish.

cj48045 my power lifting friend eats about 12 k a day, 6'3 350 ish. Damn... That dude is huge! What kind of BF% is that?

Mike McShit garry frank = the hulk lou ferrigno = the hulk

I can't say I understand why people have problems bulking.. that's the easy part

no way, cutting is way easier

Ceaze no way, cutting is way easier Maybe with a knife.

trancezj Maybe with a knife. it's even easier than that

garry frank's diet: Breakfast 20 Egg White Omelet 4 Egg Yolks 4 Cups of Rolled Oats 2 Bananas 4 Tablespoons of Flax Seed Oil Multivitamin Packet 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes 24 ounces of Water Mid Morning Snack 4 Scoops of Whey/Miscellar Casein Protein Formula 32 ounces of Skim Milk 1 cup of Cottage Cheese 4 tablespoons of Flax Seed Oil 24 ounces of Water 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes 10 grams of Glutamine Peptides Lunch 1 pound of lean skinless Chicken Breasts 4 cups of Brown rice 4 Cups of Salad 6 Tablespoons of Olive oil 24 ounces of Water 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes 10 grams of Glutamine Peptides Mid Afternoon Snack 4 Scoops of Whey/Miscellar Casein Protein Formula 32 ounces of Skim Milk 4 tablespoons of Flax Seed Oil 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes 10 grams of Glutamine Peptides Dinner 2 pounds of Lean Sirloin Steak 4 baked potatoes 4 cups of Green Salad 6 Tablespoons of Olive Oil 20 ounces of Water 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes Pre-Workout 1 pound of Chicken Breasts 4 Cups of Sweet Potatoes 4 tablespoons of Flax Seed Oil 20 ounces of Water 1000mg of Vitamin C Digestive Enzymes 10 grams of Glutamine Peptides During Training Anthony's Secret "Training Formula" 64 ounces of Water Post-Workout 24 ounces of Water Anthony's Secret Post Workout Formula containing over 15 different Ingredients 1000mg of Vitamin C Bedtime Meal 4 Scoops of Whey/Miscellar Casein Protein Formula 32 ounces of Skim Milk 4 tablespoons of Flax Seed Oil 2 Cups of Cottage Cheese 1000mg of Vitamin C 10 grams of Glutamine Peptides Digestive Enzymes http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/anthony33.htm

Ceaze it's even easier than that Plasma torch?

christophers i feel like such a girl dieting. haha, yeah, especially when you eat out somewhere.

Mike McShit 12k he was north americas strongest man 99 so lick me !

i bet he shit a small baby giraffe 3 times daily

Just finished up my GNC Weight Gainer 1849 or w/e, recommend me a decent tasting weight gainer I can supplement into my diet.

christophers when i went from 180 some to 220 i ate 6000-7000 cals a day easy everyday of "CLEAN" food. that ws too much food for me and my metabolism but still. bulking is fun shit. dieting is so fucking gay, i feel like such a girl dieting. If you were to do it again, would you keep calories the same? less? not care about the type of food as much?

Jsweet Just finished up my GNC Weight Gainer 1849 or w/e, recommend me a decent tasting weight gainer I can supplement into my diet. Real Gains has been good for me.

Man this bulking

attn:brolys

attn:brolys

do you guys do anything physical besides weightlifting? like sports? discuss.

snowboard in winter

christophers i play ping pong occasionaly you're also the CA m+m eating champion

i was really athletic before i found counter strike my sophmore year in HS

Basketball, volleyball, run and I will play anything else at any chance I get. Weightlifting is new to me.

I like to play pool sometimes when I'm drunk

wrestled for my college last year, train jiu jitsu at Dave Terrells academy when i can afford it

I used to ski but thats about it I was gonna play rugby this year but I realized I don't like team sports

snowboarding in the winter, motorcycling, golf and planning to learn to scuba dive in the summer

oh.. i golf too

Baseball= best activity ever. True story^^

snowboarding, paintball and martial arts. i'm thinking about taking up brazilian jiu jitsu.

nope

tenis, basqeubol, climbing, running, whitewater kayaking, soccer

I used to play hockey, but now I don't

Mistich i was really athletic before i found counter strike my sophmore year in HS Haha well i'm not the only one. I do a little running and i'm hoping to get back into mountain biking before too long.

i play all sports, well pretty much all

I play pool, darts...both my parents and inlaws have pools, so i will be swimming alot over the summer. I use to play basketball and cheerleading in HS.

golf/baseball

I golf and play hockey every once in a while. During the winter I ref hockey on a regular basis. Oh, I also ride motorcycles which gets pretty tough if you are riding hard.

evi1eddie i'm thinking about taking up brazilian jiu jitsu. ...LA has some good academys

i play basketball w little brother or tee off my deck into the field at night. im considering making use of the soccer field in the summer.

wrestling, bball, baseball, football, frisbee golf...shit you name it ill play

Running, football, maybe baseball in a few weeks.

basketball edit: if the non 46' vertical black guys arent playing

attn:brolys

HP_84 approves quinoa. only grain with complete protein.

HP_84 approves quinoa. only grain with complete protein.

"Quinoa has excellent reserves of protein, and unlike other grains, is not missing the amino aicd lysine, so the protein is more complete (a trait it shares with other "non-true" grains such as buckwheat and amaranth). The World Health Organization has rated the quality of protein in quinoa at least equivalent to that in milk." http://www.wholehealthmd.com/refshel...523,74,00.html for canadians to get this shit, hit up your local bulk barn. they sell organic quinoa, it seems expensive for the amount you get, but when you cook it, the shit blows up. also, it doesn't taste bad at all either...has a very nice texture. looking forward to christoff entering this thread to recommend m&m's instead.

i have better lifting technique than you

Grouch i have better lifting technique than you i doubt it. but that's not the point of this thread.

Nutrition Chart Quinoa/1/2 cup dry Calories 318 Total fat (g) 4.9 Saturated fat (g) 0.5 Monounsaturated fat (g) 1.3 Polyunsaturated fat (g) 2 Dietary fiber (g) 5 Protein (g) 11<---complete protein, unlike oats. Carbohydrate (g) 59 Cholesterol (mg) 0 Sodium (mg) 18 Riboflavin (mg) 0.3 Vitamin E (mg) 4.1 Copper (mg) 0.7 Iron (mg) 7.9 Magnesium (mg) 179 Manganese (mg) 1.9 Phosphorus (mg) 349 Potassium (mg) 629 Zinc (mg) 2.8

HP_84 i doubt it. but that's not the point of this thread. no no I really do. even in my diet i still lift more than you. and finally, no one cares what this thread is about because you are a douche bag.

Grouch no no I really do. even in my diet i still lift more than you. and finally, no one cares what this thread is about because you are a douche bag. dont make me come to gilroy. i pay you and goatboy a visit. i doubt it would be hard to find your ugly mug.

HP_84 dont make me come to gilroy. i pay you and goatboy a visit. i doubt it would be hard to find your ugly mug. Come get it you prepubescent little bitch.



Grouch Come get it you prepubescent little bitch. i got some candy for you.

fyi.. i strike like a ninja, you wouldn't even know what hit you.

HP_84 i got some candy for you. No it works the other way around. Remember you're the little girl and I'm the predator.

I'd eat that shit if it makes you strong enough to military press your own bodyweight

:wtfpentuphomosexualdesires:

Ilyusha:wtfpentuphomosexualdesires: HP_84 is a MAN!!!???

Grouch No it works the other way around. Remember you're the little girl and I'm the predator. HP_84 fyi.. i strike like a ninja, you wouldn't even know what hit you. ninja bitch. you could be 6 feet 10 300lbs for all i care. but when you see that 5'9'' mother fucker pop out of your closet in the middle of the night attacking your head with a baseball bat, then you'll know who the real predator is...bitch.

This is the gayest thread I've ever seen.

Are you 12?

HP_84 ninja bitch. you could be 6 feet 10 300lbs for all i care. but when you see that 5'9'' mother fucker pop out of your closet in the middle of the night attacking your head with a baseball bat, then you'll know who the real predator is...bitch. you really fucked up this thread.

HP_84 approves quinoa. only grain with complete protein.

lifting early in the morning?

lifting early in the morning?

who does it? what's your daily schedule like? here's my problem: getting up early to workout isn't working since my brain isn't awake enough to say "NO DONT GET BACK IN BED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" I wake up and hit the snooze at 5:30, 5:39, 5:48, 5:57, etc until about 7am. And this is after going to bed anywhere from 9pm to 11pm. I'm too lazy/unmotivated. The other morning we had to get up early to make a doc appointment for our new baby. I went to bed at 12:30-1am. 5:30, the alarm went off and I was out of bed and in the shower by 5:32. I NEED MOTIVATION... maybe i'm going to have to slap a pic of arnold right behind my alarm clock.

I always lift in late afternoon, usually around 8pm. An hour or so after I eat dinner. More food in me seems to give me more energy, plus im wide awake from being up the whole day. Afterwards I go for a 2 mile jog and come home beat and go to bed

heh, i usually wake up at alike 4:30am and eat breakfast, then hit up the gym around 5:15 or so.

I get up at 4:30am, lift at 6:15, finish around 8, shower, and I'm at work by 8:30-9. I go to bed around 9-9:30 and I still have problems getting out of bed, but I know if I don't, I won't have time to go in the afternoon and I'm not the type of person who can just skip a workout without a good reason

I can't lift early in the morning, my body is not ready to go and my joints just ache when I try to go heavy

Jeg1983 I can't lift early in the morning, my body is not ready to go and my joints just ache when I try to go heavy

Jeg1983 I can't lift early in the morning, my body is not ready to go and my joints just ache when I try to go heavy yeah. it sucks. thats why i used to do at night. but i only seem to have time early now. so i'm kinda stuck not knowing what to do

I wake up at around 8am and workout around 9 or 9:30. I think I'm the only one here though that never has breakfast before I workout. Actually experimented with breakfast before workouts and just felt lethargic

timberwolf I wake up at around 8am and workout around 9 or 9:30. I think I'm the only one here though that never has breakfast before I workout. Actually experimented with breakfast before workouts and just felt lethargic when i have made it to the gym in the morning, it's never after eating. i hop out of bed, put shoes and workout clothes on, head to the gym.

I can't even wake up for my 11 o clock class. I can't imagine trying to do something physical any earlier than noon

I get up at 4:30 for my first hour session of cardio on the stepmill

timberwolf I wake up at around 8am and workout around 9 or 9:30. I think I'm the only one here though that never has breakfast before I workout. Actually experimented with breakfast before workouts and just felt lethargic There's no way I could do that. I eat around 5:15 and it takes me about another hour to get dressed, walk the dog, and get to the gym next to my work. I'm well on my way to being digested at that point, but not sleepy.

With the nice weather slowly coming on, I'm feeling less and less inclined to go to the gym after work cause I would rather spend the time on/tinkering with my bike. I've started slowly getting my body used to working out in the morning before work. Last week I woke up early once, this week it will be twice, etc, until my body gets used to getting up before 6 every day.

KLoWnPR109 I can't even wake up for my 11 o clock class. I can't imagine trying to do something physical any earlier than noon i know your pain....just imagine having to get up for an 8am ever morning for a semester because thats the only time the classes you need are being offered

timberwolf I wake up at around 8am and workout around 9 or 9:30. I think I'm the only one here though that never has breakfast before I workout. Actually experimented with breakfast before workouts and just felt lethargic you're crazy dude.. i could never work out with nothing in me. but obviously it's workin for ya

timberwolf I wake up at around 8am and workout around 9 or 9:30. I think I'm the only one here though that never has breakfast before I workout. Actually experimented with breakfast before workouts and just felt lethargic wtf, no preworkout food at all? damn, that could mean everything i know about weight training is bullshit if you can get away with that and be in the shape youre in. or maybe you have freaky genetics and you'd be 100 lbs bigger if u actually ate before you worked out

Give me your modship, then be a real borly and hit the gym. Once your prove your broliness we can oil wrestle for it.

you can't blame yourself most people won't get up after a workout on 5 hours of sleep

up at 6:30, in the gym by 6:50 or so, and then at work by 9. im a nite person, i hate mornings but i wanna succeed so i do it cause it works best for my schedule. i grumble and cuss all around the house in the morning as i am getting ready

Undefined wtf, no preworkout food at all? damn, that could mean everything i know about weight training is bullshit if you can get away with that and be in the shape youre in. or maybe you have freaky genetics and you'd be 100 lbs bigger if u actually ate before you worked out:dunn: I sip a protein shake throughout my workout. And still eat immediately after...

I used to lift in the morning. Biggest issue was the pre-workout meal. I'd have my breakfast of oats and 6 eggs at about 6, work out at about 7:30-8.

Good god, I couldn't imagine lifting/doing anything physical when I first wakeup in the morning. I am a zombie until maybe the 2nd or 3rd hour of being awake.

i lift at around 8pm, by the time it gets to 8pm i feel real tired/sluggish

went again this morning, and with the help of some caffeine, had a pretty good fuckin workout.

lifting early in the morning?

Is it OK to work the......

Is it OK to work the......

small muscles first?? Ive been doing the usual routine since I started 2 years ago (eg. chest then triceps,back then biceps). Since you're not supposed to stick to the exact same routine as far as large first then small, I was thinking of doing the smaller muscles first for a change.

you've been training for 2 years? stats?

i always train large muscle group first. so if chest/tris, go with chest first. If you train tri's first your presses will lag

werd, why would you do this. you just change exercise/order of exercises. your chest and back would lag horribly.

If you train the big parts first, you wont have to waste time warming up the smaller parts. if you arent going to do that, why not split up the days... i.e. bis/chest day somethin day backs/tris day that way you get to hit the same body parts twice as often with the same effort. You still get to hit each bodypart full force each day without any other part lagging behind.

Jeff Coleman i always train large muscle group first. so if chest/tris, go with chest first. If you train tri's first your presses will lag If there is anything lagging its my bi's and tri's. My chest, back and traps are of good size and I dont think my arms are proportioned with the rest of my body.. Maybe because Ive been sticking to the same routine?

Ro Cobra If there is anything lagging its my bi's and tri's. My chest, back and traps are of good size and I dont think my arms are proportioned with the rest of my body.. Maybe because Ive been sticking to the same routine? Do rack presses for tri's.

only time i train small muscles first before the large muscles is when i do circuit training.. but if not, you should finish your bigger muscles first though.. but you are right, you need to constantly change your routine, do different things! why don't you train chest and back one day, shoulders and arms(bis, tris) the other day, for example.

really depends on what you are trying to achieve if by smaller muscles you mean isolation exercises, and you are trying to be a bodybuilder then sure why not....for a little while. One situation where working component muscles first in a powerlifting/oly lifting situation is when you have a clear weakness. Obviously if you are failing in a squat or the receiving phase of a clean because of a lack of core stability, you would want to devote more training time and effort to things like gm's, weighted hpers, saxons, standing crunches, zerchers, rev hypers, etc.

devilangel why don't you train chest and back one day for example.

Jeff Coleman i was suggesting changing his routine to something else.. although i can see why your face cuz back alone is pretty intense anyways.

NHB_GnP really depends on what you are trying to achieve if by smaller muscles you mean isolation exercises, and you are trying to be a bodybuilder then sure why not....for a little while. One situation where working component muscles first in a powerlifting/oly lifting situation is when you have a clear weakness. Obviously if you are failing in a squat or the receiving phase of a clean because of a lack of core stability, you would want to devote more training time and effort to things like gm's, weighted hpers, saxons, standing crunches, zerchers, rev hypers, etc. yup, i agree. all depends on your goal!

NHB_GnP really depends on what you are trying to achieve if by smaller muscles you mean isolation exercises, and you are trying to be a bodybuilder then sure why not....for a little while. One situation where working component muscles first in a powerlifting/oly lifting situation is when you have a clear weakness. Obviously if you are failing in a squat or the receiving phase of a clean because of a lack of core stability, you would want to devote more training time and effort to things like gm's, weighted hpers, saxons, standing crunches, zerchers, rev hypers, etc. hey, nice av, you post on sherdog?

Is it OK to work the......