ATTN: Norman Normal

ATTN: Norman Normal

you got progress piccys yet bitch? IBlockedsendapm

sr20wop you got progress piccys yet bitch? IBlockedsendapm no, i am interested too...

I do but I'm too much of a pussy to post them.

NormanNormal I do but I'm too much of a pussy to post them. shiiit, i'll post pics of me when i was 265, if u post urs... IBThisaintimwithopugheyfag EDIT: well if yu ae not gonna posty pics, habve u gained any weight yet?

I do plan on posting them but not until i've made some more dramatic progress.. the problem is that I have made quite a few enemies (if you want to call them that) on the main forum and I'm sure they would use it against me. They have already made fun of me enough. If you guys are really interested in my progress you can check out my journal here: http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...10#post1015010

NormanNormal I do but I'm too much of a pussy to post them. awww come on... you should feel safe in f&n or scared... either one

NormanNormal I do plan on posting them but not until i've made some more dramatic progress.. the problem is that I have made quite a few enemies (if you want to call them that) on the main forum and I'm sure they would use it against me. They have already made fun of me enough. If you guys are really interested in my progress you can check out my journal here: http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...10#post1015010 they will be baned if they post em there...

NormanNormal I do plan on posting them but not until i've made some more dramatic progress.. the problem is that I have made quite a few enemies (if you want to call them that) on the main forum and I'm sure they would use it against me. They have already made fun of me enough. If you guys are really interested in my progress you can check out my journal here: http://www.wannabebigforums.com/show...10#post1015010 fair enough

how come yur not usin f&n training log

sr20wop awww come on... you should feel safe in f&n F&N is like my sanctuary I'm off to bed guys.. you guys will get pics, just wait a bit more.

damn man good luck i didnt know you were that skinny. i hope you get bigger

sr20wop how come yur not usin f&n training log mostly because it didnt exist when I started my log at wannabebig

damn man, yur makin pretty nice progress... keep up the good work

sr20wop damn man, yur makin pretty nice progress... keep up the good work i agree... keep eating, and keep us updated...

ATTN: Norman Normal

Yohimbine people: Do you take yohimbine on days with no morning cardio?

Yohimbine people: Do you take yohimbine on days with no morning cardio?

Is it still effective? It seems like the stuff I read implies that it should only be used before cardio and in the morning when your insulin is low. Otherwise it doesn't serve a purpose.

i'd still take it

Thanks. My thighs are still rocking from the uphill sprinting.

Yeah I still take it and just don't eat for like 2-3 hours.

It made me all jittery.

iCe It made me all jittery. lightweight

Ceaze lightweight or he took the extract like me

size18boarder or he took the extract like me the herbal version was weaker than the synthetic version, for me

Ceaze the herbal version was weaker than the synthetic version, for me uh i dont know which i had but i ODed and went to the hospital and got a raging boner...covered by a paper gown...i was pitching a fucking tent

i made a nasal batch. 5g per ml and used three squirts along with 200mg caffeine for the first time today. didnt affect me as much as i thought it might.

vettedude tell em about the day you took 20 yohimbine pills(50mg) when I told you to take 20mg.

aenz i made a nasal batch. 5g per ml and used three squirts along with 200mg caffeine for the first time today. didnt affect me as much as i thought it might. i hope you mean 5mg

haha yeah my bad... otherwise i'd be a beast and half

Yohimbine people: Do you take yohimbine on days with no morning cardio?

My cheat-meal last night...

My cheat-meal last night...

So ive been craving a cheat meal for a while, and i finally broke down last night at like 11pm, i headed out to Taco Bell to stuff my face, heres what i ate: 1 Mexican Pizza 1 7-Layer Burrito 1 Double Decker Taco Totals:Calories:1420 Total Fat:67g Sodium:3190mg Carbs:152 Protein:54g ...you should of seen the shit i took this morning

I hate 3 cookies last night.

no pics of huge shit = thread failure

i'm on break this week so my diet went to shit a couple nights.. got crunk 2 nights in a row and just ate shit while i was drunk. i'm back on track now though

jonno no pics of huge shit = thread failure it was actualy 2 shits, i shat once right when i woke up, then after breakfast i felt the urge to shat again

Nice sodium.

I felt like such a bitch yesturday, I had a wendys classic triple and after I ate it my stomach didnt feel so good from the grease

wtf i hate it when ppl say "cheat meal". Just eat well and lift hard. how hard is t hat.

brolli wtf i hate it when ppl say "cheat meal". Just eat well and lift hard. how hard is t hat. Because on many regimens a cheat or a free meal is figured in Helps psychologically and physiologically.

psychologically, cheat meals help me tons. call me a b*tch, but i enjoy having a meal or two during the week where i eat something i normally wouldn't while cutting. i don't care if i dont lose another .25 lb that week that i could've. i'm still losing fat, holding onto muscle, and i'm having a great time doing it. i don't compete and i'm just doing it for myself so i have no deadline to lose weight by. i'm not gonna be a pussy and never enjoy some of the fine things of life, like delicious foods. =D and chiggin' wings are dam good.

brolli wtf i hate it when ppl say "cheat meal". Just eat well and lift hard. how hard is t hat. woah there big guy, i dont think anyone here is at your level yet.

argh! past few days i've been cheating bad!

my cheat meal last night was a pitcher of miller light and a chicken quesadilla from taco bell.

fuck, taco bell is sooooooo good

I went to a buffet. I ate 4 plates of chicken curry, 3 plates of salad piling up (used a normal plate and not a salad plate. ) and 3 bowls of soup. Japanese people made remarks. teehee.

hating places like taco bell and mcd's makes it a lot easier on me to stay on track.

i'd definitely say that of the fast food chains, taco bell is the hardest to resist especially at like 2am on a saturday night, shit tastes like gold

White Castle is good too at 2 AM.

If I go to Taco Bell, I get at least 2 1/2 lb bean burritos and 2 grande soft tacos. 2100 calories 84 fat grams 252 carbs 80 protein

i think ill have a cheat meal tonight

My cheat-meal last night...

What to take after creatine?

What to take after creatine?

I am curious about what supplement I should take after my 3 months of creatine. Should I just continue taking it or should I take something else?

m1t

blue-streak m1t Isn't that a steriod?

crack

tize every 6 weeks take a 2 week break Alright. And when I start again I should go through the reloading period.

test injections

Nothing. Can't you just stop for a week or two then repeat?

Gutrat Nothing. Can't you just stop for a week or two then repeat? I have read a couple different things. But I was wondering if anyone can recommend something that works better.

HMB+pyruvate just stay off it once you're done

SpeedyGST HMB+pyruvate just stay off it once you're done I think I will pass.

clomid to get rid of the bitch tits

Soularis clomid to get rid of the bitch tits

Viagra

yohimbe

nothing

A shit

CEE maybe?

cavefish CEE maybe? I have been looking into this. Should I take it right after finishing Creatine Monohydrate?

What to take after creatine?

so I started christophers routine...

so I started christophers routine...

Hey what's up guys, Been a long time lurker on the F&N forums...been lifting on/off for the past 4-5 years. When I started out I was 150ish at 6'. Bulked up to about 200 at one point about two years ago, but right now I'm at 180ish. I started christophers routine last night and let me tell you it was INTENSE. Squats, deads, bench, incline really kicked my a$$ and I almost puked when walking out of the gym. Good times! Will try to post some pics soon.

gat damn boyeeeeee

the first week killed me, now doing all 3 in one day is not as big a deal

how long were you in the gym for?

the day after the first routine really burned, but i've jacked up my bench by 50 pounds, my squats by 80 or so, and my dead lift by 50 since that first day (i'd never really done the 3 so i started out with 135 for each.) now it doesn't hurt as much the next day, kinda makes me sad. any reason why? my body adapts to the new weight? i'm doing the same 5x5 routine as christopher's posted.

Probably about an hour or so...I started off kinda light because I didn't want to jump into super heavy...didn't really know what to expect. Squats 95 x 5 135 x 5 155 x 5 185 x 5 205 x 5 Deads 95 x 5 135 x 5 155 x 5 185 x 5 225 x 5 Bench 95 x 5 115 x 5 135 x 5 155 x 5 185 x 5 Incline DB press 35's x 15 40's x 15 45's x 12

I'm also enjoying this program a lot, I"m in my 4th week and have been seeing really good gains.

I'm doing this program as well, its going really well.

Hope to start this on Monday. Did he mention anything about eating? Im trying to lose fat in the belly and am following his sticky thread on fat loss. 5'4, 150lbs.

I have been doing it for about a month and a half going really well so far.

johnson Hope to start this on Monday. Did he mention anything about eating? Im trying to lose fat in the belly and am following his sticky thread on fat loss. 5'4, 150lbs. eat.

where is the routine posted?

chris, I'd really like to know if you have something else to replace squats? my hips just aren't cut for it. I didn't workout today because the pain came back. Deads never seem to bother me, it's something about all that weight on my back. I see myself in the mirror and form looks dead on.

Is this routine in the stickies?

Kozzy McKoz Is this routine in the stickies? no

deznutz where is the routine posted?

vettedude no Then where may I view this routine?

Chris, i am putting my lil bro on this routine he is 18, 6'2 and weighs 135 and needs to GFH, u think it would be k for me to have him do box squats after a few weeks, and maybee switch up the DL's from luiek sumo to SLDL, whatr about GHR's could i get those in there too for him? Monday Squats-5x5(Do four progressively heavier sets of 5 with the 5th set being your 5RM.) Deadlifts-5x5(Do the same) Bench Press-5x5(Do the same) Incline DB Press-2x12-20 Wednesday Light Squats or Lunges-4x8 each leg Good Mornings-3x8-12 Shoulder Press-5x5 or Dips-4xmax until you get 12 each time. then add weight. Pullups-4xmax Friday Squats-warmup to a 3 reps with 5 more lbs than you used on Monday. On the following monday use this weight for your 5th set. Bent Over Row-5x5 Incline Bench-5x5 Tricep Extensions-2x12-20

vettedude Monday Skittles-5x5(Do four progressively heavier sets of 5 with the 5th set being your 5RM.) Hohos-5x5(Do the same) Steak Press-5x5(Do the same) Incline Pepsi Press-2x12-20 Wednesday Light Pancakes or Waffles-4x8 each leg Good eatings-3x8-12 Donut Press-5x5 or Dips-4xmax until you get 12 each time. then add weight. Sweet rolls-4xmax Friday Skittles-warmup to a 3 reps with 5 more lbs than you used on Monday. On the following monday use this weight for your 5th set. Bent Over Vomiting-5x5 Incline All you can eat-5x5 Buffet line Extensions-2x12-20

christophers what's wrong with your hips? just pain? sharp pain, radiates to (or possibly coming from?) lower back, and sometimes to groin. I had a long post on it when it occured, and surprise - it came from SQUATS! Put me out for 2 months

Ilyusha :r ofl:

christophers this routine is too hard for ya buddy btw: What does this mean... Incline DB Press-2x12-20 2 sets, 12 reps? whats the 20?

deznutz btw: What does this mean... Incline DB Press-2x12-20 2 sets, 12 reps? whats the 20? maybee 12-20 reps depending on how u feel

deznutz btw: What does this mean... Incline DB Press-2x12-20 2 sets, 12 reps? whats the 20? 12-20 reps

deznutz btw: What does this mean... Incline DB Press-2x12-20 2 sets, 12 reps? whats the 20? between 12 and 20 reps

so I started christophers routine...

What are ME and DE moves?

What are ME and DE moves?

Can someone explain? It's impossible to search for.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...dynamic+effort

The Eight Keys, Part 1 The Eight Keys, Part 2 The Eight Keys, Part 3 The Eight Keys, Part 4

yes, very impossible.

Ceaze The Eight Keys, Part 1 The Eight Keys, Part 2 The Eight Keys, Part 3 The Eight Keys, Part 4 Thanks.

b-stevens yes, very impossible. plug in this thread title and tell me what you get

http://www.elitefts.com/ Read everything on the site, specifically the articles and the Q&A.

Soularis plug in this thread title and tell me what you get You search with full sentences?

here's a key, if it's too small for the search query, just add * to it.. you'll come up with a lot of bullshit, but you'll get your 2 and 3 letter searches done

b-stevens You search with full sentences? You can. It can get you better results. I searched for "DE bench" and stuff like that a billion times and all I came up with was routines, not wtf it was. Had I known it stood for dynamic effort, it would've been a piece of cake. See the problem?

What are ME and DE moves?

Bad Time

Bad Time

I feel like shit. My shoulder is bothering me again, i have pain in my lower back and my right knee is acting up on me. I haven't been to the gym in 2 weeks, I feel like complete garbage. Anyone else every feel really down like this sometimes? I'm so discouraged.

superbri007 just rest man, it gets better. I've been sick on and off for 2 months, and when everything gets better... (i even got a new mp3 player i wanted to try out monday) I pull a back muscle pretty much limiting me to breathe in 3/4ths of the way to avoid the pain because I've gone to teh chiropractor, put heat on it, took aleve, and rested, I think its recovering quite nicely, but I'm hesitant to go to the gym just yet and ruin all that time resting, or hurt myself further you goto the 'chiropractor'... arn't they bullshit? oh and by the way, A.R.T failed me...(i'm pretty sure that the god damn ripoff artist didn't do it properly.

quit your bitchin, suck it up and get back to working out. ive got some severe sciatica and i still pull and squat religiously....sometimes you just need to out focus the pain...

there are way too many threads made by people with nagging injuries/chronic pain I assume most of you are between 18-25, when you should be at your physical peaks, and youre getting hurt. I think some of you need to reassess the volume and/or form of your exercises.

Injuries can happen to anyone, at any time.

Bad Time