I care about strength more than size *CREW SIGN IN*

I care about strength more than size *CREW SIGN IN*

I don't care about how big I am just as long as I'm strong. What good is it having size if you don't have strength.

I'm stronger than many people much larger than me... but often I wish I was bigger

im a bodybuilder so i care more about how i look than how strong i am. not saying i dont care about strength, it comes with the size ;x

DCCapen Looks> strength>size you keep telling yourself that little man

once i get past a certain point size wise, ill be with you. right now, i really would take 10 lbs of added muscle with no strength gain than a 15% increase to all my lifts with no size gain.

power > strength > looks >....*crickets* > size

christophers you cannot be powerful without strength. strength is the precursor my point was I'd rather be able to clean X than deadlift Y

christophers i can power clean 300+ and never power clean, ever FREAK

Size+Strength+Looks = win

I can get to incredible levels of strength without gaining size and I have a harder time putting on size but thankfully I don't want to. That's life when you are a giant in a forum of midgets.

What are some good routines for strength only? Westside?

Mike McDermott Yeah, that works the stabilizers! Surfs up, bro. that first picture almost looke like an Inch dumbell. if so.

Incog91 I can get to incredible levels of strength without gaining size and I have a harder time putting on size but thankfully I don't want to. That's life when you are a giant in a forum of midgets. shut the fuck up douche bag

at some point in my life i want to compete at under 150 pounds. right now im at 225 bench 315 squat and 365 deadlift but theyve gone down since im workin 16 hours a day between 2 jobs.

Mike McDermott no it isn't still looks like a thick handled db

i care about strength more than size until i can deadlift/squat at least 400. Then ill probly go the BB route

princess0fdiabl0 i care about strength more than size until i can deadlift/squat at least 400. Then ill probly go the BB route those numbers are soo unimpressive

Strength is #1 in my book. I don't care how I look. It's like Christian Thibadaeu said: "Train for power, everything else is just gay porn." GFH motherfuckers. Read Christopher's user text.

i have a hard time losing weight, so i am concentrating on upping the weight i can lift!

Blue=Gay I don't care about how big I am just as long as I'm strong. What good is it having size if you don't have strength. if your 180 benching 500 and im 240 benching 300 im still gonna bitch slap you right off the planet. You think otherwise then find someone alot bigger then you but weaker in the gym and start a wrestling match with him. And saying what you said is just an excuse, cause you cant get big you just say "I would rather be strong" Well 99% of the time its not one without the other so you must still be weak.

christophers people who dont think you can achieve both at a decent rate are people i honestly feel sorry for. fucking chris....amen

you're seriously only benching 300?

tize not really for a bber really tize, my training partner is 179 right now at 5% and deaded 405 for 7 last night then followed it with 315 BB rows and weighted pullups with a 45. Hes a pretty weak BB"er Point is hes doing his first show this year, hes an average joe in my world, hes not a genetic god yet he will out lift 99% on here easily

SteveO you're seriously only benching 300? me I use 300 for behind the head presses for 6-8, I wasnt using me as an example. I would make a better powerlifter then BB'er to be honest. Just no one around here thats any good to teach me.

superbri007 Brandon is 179 he was 184 when you were there, thats what a properly built person looks like, you saw him repping 225 for 12 at that weight on the incline

I care about strength more than size *CREW SIGN IN*

Im on abcbodybuilding forums V. CEE

Im on abcbodybuilding forums V. CEE

They say that CEE is teh lose and I should of got mono whateva

The forums there have gone to hell ever since the jesus freaks took over. Almost all of the really knowledgable people got the hell out of there when swearing became a bannable offense.

FrozynFyre They say that CEE is teh lose and I should of got mono whateva because CEE isn't really backed by science is what they say

Zaffir The forums there have gone to hell ever since the jesus freaks took over. Almost all of the really knowledgable people got the hell out of there when swearing became a bannable offense. yeah that is why I don't really care for the forums anymore. It's all people stressing 2g of sugar, "I put too much whey in my shake, oh no!"

SteveO because CEE isn't really backed by science is what they say Hm...kinda like religion! The irony is delicious.

cavefish Hm...kinda like religion! The irony is delicious. True Story.

cavefish Hm...kinda like religion! The irony is delicious. yeah to a point. It's kinda funny how they say it's a site based on science and they completely disagree with the scientist about religion. I still like all their articles and exercise tabs, but the forums have gone to shit

SteveO yeah to a point. It's kinda funny how they say it's a site based on science and they completely disagree with the scientist about religion. I still like all their articles and exercise tabs, but the forums have gone to shit Think you'd get banned for bringing that up?

nathanbx Think you'd get banned for bringing that up? probably

nathanbx Think you'd get banned for bringing that up? Absolutely. Someone asked if wanking regularly helped/hurt his bodybuilding goals. He was banned for it.

Zaffir Absolutely. Someone asked if wanking regularly helped/hurt his bodybuilding goals. He was banned for it.

Zaffir Absolutely. Someone asked if wanking regularly helped/hurt his bodybuilding goals. He was banned for it. that's sad

Zaffir Absolutely. Someone asked if wanking regularly helped/hurt his bodybuilding goals. He was banned for it.

christophers abcbodybuildings articles are not backed by a dicks worth of science, especially the nutrition ones, at least from what i've looked at as mentioned before, mosto f their articles resort to "well arnold/insert bb'r did it, so..!" where do you read most of your articles at?

Did ABCBODYBUILDING have the "online training log" before OT? Or did we copy it from them?

Gutrat Did ABCBODYBUILDING have the "online training log" before OT? Or did we copy it from them? a lot of sites had it before OT did, though I dont know which of the two had it first

Gutrat Did ABCBODYBUILDING have the "online training log" before OT? Or did we copy it from them? it's not really a crazy new idea.. i'm sure lots of forums have that

Im on abcbodybuilding forums V. CEE

whats so good about oatmeal?

whats so good about oatmeal?

why is it part of almost everyone's bulking diet?

Clean carbs? Nutritious at the same time. Ok,I don't know. I just eat what ppl recommend.

StoneCold why is it part of almost everyone's bulking diet? (low gi), cheap, can be mixed in shakes

SteveO (low gi), cheap, can be mixed in shakes Also, pretty calorie dense.

pt used it

ACURA TL-S Also, pretty calorie dense. not really

Ceaze not really Ya, your right, I thought it was something like 600 calories a cup. Thatll teach me to think.

i eat oatmeal frequently, but i'm cutting fat

fiber

whats the trick to keeping oatmeal from settleing at the bottom of my protein shake? the last two drinks are always full of oatmeal and it makes me gag.

I can eat a lot of it for 300 calories.

not part of mine

It should be a part of your diet bulking or not

Ero whats the trick to keeping oatmeal from settleing at the bottom of my protein shake? the last two drinks are always full of oatmeal and it makes me gag. Blend the oats into a powder first then add everything else.

its got oats, and its a meal. nice combo in my book! also, unrefined. hard to find that these days.

Oats + Mouth = win. I just eat them raw.

Ero whats the trick to keeping oatmeal from settleing at the bottom of my protein shake? the last two drinks are always full of oatmeal and it makes me gag. Keep shakin it. No matter how fine you blend it, it will eventually settle because it doesn't dissolve. I usually uise 0.5-1 cup of oatmeal per 1.5-2 scoops of protein

i just bought some i'll be eating them in the morning for breafast now with some egg whites.

I use it when cutting as well

Ero whats the trick to keeping oatmeal from settleing at the bottom of my protein shake? the last two drinks are always full of oatmeal and it makes me gag. thicker shakes. IE = more solid stuffs. but i make fruit shakes, most people round here make milkshakes and shit so i dont know what solids you would add other than peanut butter or more oats.

PurEvl I use it when cutting as well

fiber and it also lowers your cholesterol.. but not those quick instant oatmeals tho(too much sugar), it has to be the old fashioned one..

PurEvl I use it when cutting as well same

1) Very low GI 2) Good for calories 3) Contains GLA 3) Good source of soluble fiber 4) Contains more minerals then many other grains 5) Has atleast a little protein 6) Damn tasty is prepaired right 7) Can be very filling when dieting(a good thing)

whats so good about oatmeal?

So is there any physiologic benefit to a cheat day every week or so?

So is there any physiologic benefit to a cheat day every week or so?

Anything at all? Glycogen refill? Trcik your body into thinking you're in a surplus?

depends on how long the cheat day/refeed is, as well as how long/hard you've been dieting, how long since your last refeed, how low your bodyfat is, etc

theres psychological benefits, like sanity. ha

Perplexed is that a westside bodybuilding routine or what? no i think it would be defined as more of what most uf us less strong people should be doing. That is almost exactly how i do it

So is there any physiologic benefit to a cheat day every week or so?

so my piss smells like tuna and my farts burnt rubber

so my piss smells like tuna and my farts burnt rubber

and i feel like shit most of the day, cutting rules.

aenz and i feel like shit most of the day, cutting rules. you better get that shit checked out



lol i'm just eating very clean no carbs, i know why i feel like shit and im ok with it for the time being

so my piss smells like tuna and my farts burnt rubber

Idiot Myspace Muscle & Fitness members

Idiot Myspace Muscle & Fitness members

http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?...20050427000406 is this the forum you guy bust these dumbasses on?

Mmmmmmmmmmmk, Man Hands.

Ilyusha Mmmmmmmmmmmk, Man Hands. you know you love it.

Grouch you know you love it. Them, you mean?

that forum sucks.

i back you up ;x

Dunken i back you up ;x haha nice.

I did too..

someone should make a OT Broly Crew for myspace (since it didnt work for facebook)

No the one I am on is http://forum.myspace.com/index.cfm?...=20050409153440 but I will have to start frequenting this one also. It is the addiction I love to hate.

I'm up in that shit too holla

@ manhands

it never fucking ends.... http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?...20050427131103

kisses for ceaze

Grouch kisses for ceaze What about me you son of a bitch?

Oh man, I got a headache just reading that shit. wow ceaze is a very sessy sessy man any recent pics of him, he looks like 170lbs in his myspace pics

ACURA TL-S What about me you son of a bitch? you look just like Billy Zane

ACURA TL-S What about me you son of a bitch? went and took a little look around that form and you own shit there

i just joined the OT Broly Crew group. im kevin

Grouch kisses for ceaze flowers for algernon

I swear to god I want to crunk the little faggot emo head of this Jack aka Akop little bitch. ohhhhhhhh he is soooo fucking stupid

christophers god damn theres a lot of retards on that forum maybe christophers will make a myspace acct I am just waiting for it. There is a guy named christopher that I though might be you...then I read what he wrote.

Grouch I swear to god I want to crunk the little faggot emo head of this Jack aka Akop little bitch. ohhhhhhhh he is soooo fucking stupid I know, but not as bad as the bitch that emailed me earlier.

ACURA TL-S I know, but not as bad as the bitch that emailed me earlier. what? some little bitch emailed you.

Grouch what? some little bitch emailed you. A girl too. There is a thread about it.

Idiot Myspace Muscle & Fitness members

High rep presses fucking own my delts.

High rep presses fucking own my delts.

Today I had 5x15 bench and 3x8 incline. Was supposed to do 3x15 flys but my front delts were burning like crazy.. I couldn't even raise my arms, really. Pretty

damn dude 5x15 bench? that is getting up there with volume, you must train bodyparts once a week?

Twice a week actually I seem to respond well to high volume.

GilgaMesH Today I had 5x15 bench and 3x8 incline. Was supposed to do 3x15 flys but my front delts were burning like crazy.. I couldn't even raise my arms, really. Pretty whoa your training styles lives up to your av

Peal whoa your training styles lives up to your av Last fall I actually trained using his split given in his book. Now there was some volume

i remember when i was a teenager we used to do high volume benching to the point where i could hardly shift my datsun 280zx

KingGargantuan i remember when i was a teenager we used to do high volume benching to the point where i could hardly shift my datsun 280zx Stop bragging...

deznutz Stop bragging... i loved that car

I get hard core burning in my delts also. I just thought that it was lactic acid. Am i wrong or does anybody know what it is?

GilgaMesH Last fall I actually trained using his split given in his book. Now there was some volume wow thats awesome...im completely opposite. whats ur body type?

size18boarder wow thats awesome...im completely opposite. whats ur body type? I'd say either ecto-meso or mesomorph.

High rep presses fucking own my delts.