Thursday, December 12, 2013

My calves wont grow

My calves wont grow


So after about 6-7 months of lifting my upper body has progressed a lot, and my upper legs sort of, but my calves still suck. Leg day looks like this: Squats 4 sets 6-12 reps Leg curls 3 sets Leg ext 2-3 sets Standing calves 4 sets does anyone know a way around this? should i work calves 2 times a week? thanks...my calves are pretty much disproportional

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ScubaMatt So after about 6-7 months of lifting my upper body has progressed a lot, and my upper legs sort of, but my calves still suck. Leg day looks like this: Squats 4 sets 6-12 reps Leg curls 3 sets Leg ext 2-3 sets Standing calves 4 sets does anyone know a way around this? should i work calves 2 times a week? thanks...my calves are pretty much disproportional Since you use you calves so much for daily activity you have to work them to failyer to see growth. Some one recently posted a link to a killer calve routine.

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solo Since you use you calves so much for daily activity you have to work them to failyer to see growth. Some one recently posted a link to a killer calve routine. Thanks, I will try and look for it

try higher reps and more frequency

Since leg curls and extensions mainly focus on your quads and hamstrings, your upper legs will wear out before you get much of a good calf workout. My suggestion would be to do some heavily weight calf raises until near-failure or failure.

I carry a 10kg (22lb) backpack around uni every day, it has made my calves explode (I don't do any direct calf work in the gym apart from ghr's (which aren't really direct))

Bulk diet + working out + calve specific exercises = bigger calves

Hardest muscle to get a result from.

ThenameT Hardest muscle to get a result from. because people don't know how to train them. Failure isn't enough Keep on doing what you're doing, but add in more sets - use lots of rest-pause reps and partial cheat reps towards the end to keep on pushing past failure.

Day 1: High-Volume Exercise A: Calf Superset* A1) Seated Calf Raises 3 x 10-5-5 (one set of 10 reps, followed by two of 5 reps) at a 101 tempo (1 second to lower the weight, no pause, and 1 second to raise the weight) A2) Donkey Calf Raises 3 x 30-50 at a 101 tempo *After finishing a set of the A1 exercise, proceed immediately to exercise A2. Then rest two minutes before repeating the super set. Exercise B: Standing Calf Raises B1) Standing Calf Raises 10 x 10-30 at a 111 tempo, ten seconds** **In other words, you'll be doing one, long, extended set, resting ten seconds between each mini-set and lowering the weight in between. Day 2: Low-Volume (to be done 48 hours after Day 1) Exercise A: Triple Drop Standing Calf Raises A1) Triple Drop Standing Calf Raises 3 x 10-10-10 (in other words, three drop sets) at a 121 tempo,*** resting 90 seconds between sets. ***The pause is taken in the bottom stretch position, and be sure to take the full two seconds.

I'd just up the amount of sets/exercises. Calves can be pretty stubborn, but not impossible to change.

Ilyusha IBMTVTrueLifeIwantCalfImplants my exact thoughts.. I couldn't believe he did it.

Ceaze Day 1: High-Volume Exercise A: Calf Superset* A1) Seated Calf Raises 3 x 10-5-5 (one set of 10 reps, followed by two of 5 reps) at a 101 tempo (1 second to lower the weight, no pause, and 1 second to raise the weight) A2) Donkey Calf Raises 3 x 30-50 at a 101 tempo *After finishing a set of the A1 exercise, proceed immediately to exercise A2. Then rest two minutes before repeating the super set. Exercise B: Standing Calf Raises B1) Standing Calf Raises 10 x 10-30 at a 111 tempo, ten seconds** **In other words, you'll be doing one, long, extended set, resting ten seconds between each mini-set and lowering the weight in between. Day 2: Low-Volume (to be done 48 hours after Day 1) Exercise A: Triple Drop Standing Calf Raises A1) Triple Drop Standing Calf Raises 3 x 10-10-10 (in other words, three drop sets) at a 121 tempo,*** resting 90 seconds between sets. ***The pause is taken in the bottom stretch position, and be sure to take the full two seconds. Thanks. I am going to try that

I wish my gym had a donkey calf raise machine...

i have no problems with my calves, its the rest of my body that won't grow some people have problems with calves because they actually stretch the muscle while doing the raises (by bringing the heels downward past the point of parallel to the floor when they bring the weight down) ... doesn't work the muscle right

Dr. Shrooms You're not supposed to do that? I wish someone would have told me sooner. no, i mean you can a little bit i'm sure, but the fibers in the muscles don't work that way, so you stretch them out and they're not going to give you strength where you need it... unless of course you're jumping from a bar with your feet in that position, then it might work

On the leg press machine, place your toes on the lower edge of the footplate with your heels hanging off. Lower the weight and try to bend your calves as far in as you can and hold it for 12-15 secs. Than explode on the positive and slowly control the negative and repeat for 10 reps. I use 180 and by the time i reach 9 im seeing stars, after that 10 is life or death for me. These will fry your calves!

TheTurd On the leg press machine, place your toes on the lower edge of the footplate with your heels hanging off. Lower the weight and try to bend your calves as far in as you can and hold it for 12-15 secs. Than explode on the positive and slowly control the negative and repeat for 10 reps. I use 180 and by the time i reach 9 im seeing stars, after that 10 is life or death for me. These will fry your calves! omg, calf raises on a leg press machine? GENIUS!

mike omg, calf raises on a leg press machine? GENIUS! ya have you done them the way im talking about dicksmack?

Demon Of Dreams no, i mean you can a little bit i'm sure, but the fibers in the muscles don't work that way, so you stretch them out and they're not going to give you strength where you need it... unless of course you're jumping from a bar with your feet in that position, then it might work sorry but this is completely wrong

Dr. Shrooms You're not supposed to do that? I wish someone would have told me sooner. stretch induces more growth

Ceaze sorry but this is completely wrong then a trainer is wrong... its for the standing calf raises with weight on the shoulders ... was told awhile back and another one told me a couple of days ago that extending your heels downward while doing calf raises have a negative effect and stretch the fibers out too much for it to be beneficial for growth and strenth purposes... unless I'm misunderstanding things. i'd like to know more about it actually, because i keep hearing the same things from different trainers

Ceaze stretch induces more growth thats always what i had thought initially

My calves wont grow

I saw a 6'4+ well built white guy doing the moonwalk ....

I saw a 6'4+ well built white guy doing the moonwalk ....


at my school gym last week ... background story: It was late workout that day ... 12am or so ... I was at the preacher curl station, resting in between my sets. And while resting, i was facing this 6'4+, well built white fellow resting in between his sets of squats (with short, shorts mind you). I wasn't really paying particular attention to him ... But then all of a sudden, out of no where, that dude busted out the moonwalk (he moonwalked for a good 5 yards). He did it not once, but like 3 or 4 times (once everytime that he was resting in between his sets). I tried really hard to not bust out laughing It was the wierdest thing i have ever seen at a school gym

I wish I could do the moonwalk.

I can moonwalk. True story.

Grouch I can moonwalk. True story. VID OR DEATH.

Grouch I can moonwalk. True story.

Grouch I can moonwalk. True story. same

In for moonwalk lessons.

Hip Hippo I wish I could do the moonwalk.

Moonwalk is easy I've been able to do it for a while

i can do it too

~*Pogovina*~ VID OR DEATH. only if you make me one after...

intersting i suppose...

Grouch only if you make me one after... i didnt know you were into beastiality

Forward moonwalk is the bomb

~*Pogovina*~ i didnt know you were into beastiality

He was trying to get your attention.

i'm surpised this hasnt been

jonno i'm surpised this hasnt been Not many mods around today.

jonno i'm surpised this hasnt been Oh well, why should they lock it?

~*Pogovina*~ i didnt know you were into beastiality I'm a freak.

its a very uncommon side effect of steroid usage that is overshadowed by "roid rage" but randomly busting out with the moonwalk is a very common side effect of boldenone.

in for lessons and vid

tize Everyone can moonwalk :yawn: I can do the sideways usher variation and forward variation IBwhiteboyoverbite




I saw a 6'4+ well built white guy doing the moonwalk ....

Soy Milk whey > 2% > Water V. TRUF

Soy Milk whey > 2% > Water V. TRUF


Ive tried all three of these in the last 48 hours and if I base this on taste only instead of getting the shits from 2% then soy milk is the best It mixes better, its smoother, has a little sweeter taste

FrozynFyre Ive tried all three of these in the last 48 hours and if I base this on taste only instead of getting the shits from 2% then soy milk is the best It mixes better, its smoother, has a little sweeter taste you know what soy does to you, right?

I could give a shit what my shake tastes like. I just mix it in water and drink it in about 2 seconds anyway.

sans_pants you know what soy does to you, right? no what

what!?

http://getbuf.com/articles/soyestrogen.shtml

sans_pants http://getbuf.com/articles/soyestrogen.shtml fuck that shit

FrozynFyre fuck that shit whatever, i dont use it just because i dont care to the only time i get soy is when i eat pemmican

FrozynFyre fuck that shit how dare you question getbuf.com

I look at the average asian male and thats all i need to know that is for women.

Grouch I look at the average asian male and thats all i need to know that is for women. haha, an asian guy I know bought a jug of powdered soy protein

to be fair, soy milk tastes a lot better than cow milk

designer strawberry whey with water is the bomb, doesnt even taste bad. Muscle milk tastes damn good.

KetchupKing to be fair, soy milk tastes a lot better than cow milk Whole cow milk > *.milk

In Soviet Russia, 6% fat milk > * I'm fucking serious.

organic whole cow milk > * for some reason organic milk tastes way better than your average store brand milk

whole milk > * but i'm cutting now

Grouch I look at the average asian male and thats all i need to know that is for women.

sans_pants http://getbuf.com/articles/soyestrogen.shtml

Grouch I look at the average asian male and thats all i need to know that is for women. screw you. timberwolf, preemo, where you at broly's?

cavefish I could give a shit what my shake tastes like. I just mix it in water and drink it in about 2 seconds anyway. yeah, i've given up on the idea of enjoying protein shakes. i mix, and down 2 scoops of on in water in about 8 gulps while holding my breath.

Atenza6i screw you. timberwolf, preemo, where you at broly's? And do they use soy?

soy is for gays

teh latest science says teh estrogen effects of soy are pretty neglibile, but I'd rather not take my chances that science could be wrong, so I just stay aawy from it, just in case.

Dragon teh latest science says teh estrogen effects of soy are pretty neglibile, but I'd rather not take my chances that science could be wrong, so I just stay aawy from it, just in case. THIS IS OT F&N!!! WHERE SCIENCE AND TRUTH DONT MATTER!!!!

Soy Milk whey > 2% > Water V. TRUF

Busted my back ---but I will be ok---

Busted my back ---but I will be ok---


I buckled my lower back on squats last night. My concentration was completely shattered by an asshat that walked by on my 1st rep of the 4th set I unracked 475 (100/2 45's and 25) got my footing for the rep...some jerk off comes by and screams "BIG DOG!" nad does a bark noise which caused me to shift the weight and to correct it I had to shift my back and it buckled...so when I squated the weight I was in the worst position you could be in. It feels like my spine is disconnected from my lower body. So...I did what any other animal would do. I took the weight down to 335 (just the 100's and 1 45) and attempted another squat. The pressure was so painful on my back that I couldn't even unrack the weight so...since I couldn't even lay down on the floor, I hobbled to the stationary bike...did my 30 minutes of cardio and attempted to go drive home. Today its a little less painful, but I couldn't sleep and when I'd turn to my side I'd get a sharp sharp pain. so I'll wait till it goes away. I told my Mom I was hardcore and she slapped me

Filmboy44 screams "BIG DOG!" nad does a bark noise back pain is the worst and takes a while to get back to normal.

tofu back pain is the worst and takes a while to get back to normal. yeah it is... but our power-squat rack (as I call it) is right next to this door/closet that they keep all the "powerlifting" crap in there...like the chains, thicker squat bar, bands, chalk, etc. Its like 3 feet from this door...so this guy goes to the closet to get something and thats when he screamed at me it was like right in my ear.

ok

Grouch ok shut it, crunk a junk

you shoulda fuckin slapped with a 5lb plate after that shit

Filmboy44 I buckled my lower back on squats last night. My concentration was completely shattered by an asshat that walked by on my 1st rep of the 4th set I unracked 475 (100/2 45's and 25) got my footing for the rep...some jerk off comes by and screams "BIG DOG!" nad does a bark noise which caused me to shift the weight and to correct it I had to shift my back and it buckled...so when I squated the weight I was in the worst position you could be in. It feels like my spine is disconnected from my lower body. So...I did what any other animal would do. I took the weight down to 335 (just the 100's and 1 45) and attempted another squat. The pressure was so painful on my back that I couldn't even unrack the weight so...since I couldn't even lay down on the floor, I hobbled to the stationary bike...did my 30 minutes of cardio and attempted to go drive home. Today its a little less painful, but I couldn't sleep and when I'd turn to my side I'd get a sharp sharp pain. so I'll wait till it goes away. I told my Mom I was hardcore and she slapped me i feel ya filmy, I have two fascia tears on my left leg, bruised real nice. There healing though. My knees are so bad right now I cant squat 225

Filmboy44 shut it, crunk a junk My hands hurt. I can't.

heh i did the same thing but re-tore some ligament and muscle tissue in my lower back, my post is prob near the bottom of the forum, i feel your pain.

PurEvl i feel ya filmy, I have two fascia tears on my left leg, bruised real nice. There healing though. My knees are so bad right now I cant squat 225 how is that going to effect your show?

bad back eh? I guess your age is starting to show

The other day I was attempting a new PR on deadlift, and right when I was about to pull, this guy goes "PPPSSSSTTTTTT!!!" real loud. totally fucked me up. He was trying to get the attention of some other guy across the gym.

Filmboy44 how is that going to effect your show? it shouldnt, I should be fine just coasting in and doing light leg workouts, the quads are still ok

Filmboy44 I buckled my lower back on squats last night. My concentration was completely shattered by an asshat that walked by on my 1st rep of the 4th set I unracked 475 (100/2 45's and 25) got my footing for the rep...some jerk off comes by and screams "BIG DOG!" nad does a bark noise which caused me to shift the weight and to correct it I had to shift my back and it buckled...so when I squated the weight I was in the worst position you could be in. It feels like my spine is disconnected from my lower body. So...I did what any other animal would do. I took the weight down to 335 (just the 100's and 1 45) and attempted another squat. The pressure was so painful on my back that I couldn't even unrack the weight so...since I couldn't even lay down on the floor, I hobbled to the stationary bike...did my 30 minutes of cardio and attempted to go drive home. Today its a little less painful, but I couldn't sleep and when I'd turn to my side I'd get a sharp sharp pain. so I'll wait till it goes away. I told my Mom I was hardcore and she slapped me Sounds like how I herniated a disc in my back, minus the big dawg comment! Make sure to keep moving around, and go see a doc, you dont wanna fuck with back injuries.

spoofy bad back eh? I guess your age is starting to show I'm not OLD

i prolly woulda told him to STFU.... but a chick squatting the heigh-weight equivalent to that would likely scare the dude enough to get away with it not that I can squat shit, mind you.

~*Pogovina*~ i prolly woulda told him to STFU.... but a chick squatting the heigh-weight equivalent to that would likely scare the dude enough to get away with it not that I can squat shit, mind you. there are only abut a handful of guys at my gym that can squat 6+...actually I'd say 5+...

You should have ripped out your spine and strangled the faggot to death with it.

Perplexed Did you fucking kill the cunt or what? no, it was my fault...I wasn't practicing Arnold's logic of "a bomb could go off and it won't break bbers concentration"

Man, that's fuck up. I would have been so pissed off.

too bad they got rid of your reverse hyper








Busted my back ---but I will be ok---

I need delt and back exercises...PLEASE

I need delt and back exercises...PLEASE


And possible GIF's of these.... edit* back exercises for THICKNESS Thanks

Bent over barbell row, cable row, upright row. Do you need Gifs of these?

Lurker111 Bent over barbell row, cable row, upright row. Do you need Gifs of these? i thought upright rows are for shoulders?

http://www.exrx.net/Exercise.html gif's galore!

superbri007 deznuts, wheres a pic of you in the pic thread, I need someone comparable so I don't feel so small Are you implying i am small? I have a digi camera back at home, but the pic size is too big... i will try somehow to get a picture up....

deznutz Are you implying i am small? I have a digi camera back at home, but the pic size is too big... i will try somehow to get a picture up.... resize in paint

BB shoulder press

Do this BB rows Close grip cable rows Close grip pulldowns Focus on squeezing

snatch grip deadlifts

deznutz i thought upright rows are for shoulders? Delts are the target but it also uses the traps. You said delts AND back so I suggested a few that hit both at the same time if you consider traps a part of your back.

Ceaze snatch grip deadlifts those and overhead shrugs blew up my traps

size18boarder those and overhead shrugs blew up my traps how do you do snatch grip deadlifts?

Ceaze snatch grip deadlifts .

deznutz how do you do snatch grip deadlifts? same grip as a snatch

size18boarder same grip as a snatch those look hard

size18boarder same grip as a snatch you're going to confuse people with that pic

Neo22 Do this BB rows Close grip cable rows Close grip pulldowns Focus on squeezing

Ceaze you're going to confuse people with that pic guess i should have deleted the bottom half

what are overhead shrugs? i mean do you really extend your arms over your head and do shrugs?

ryazbeck what are overhead shrugs? i mean do you really extend your arms over your head and do shrugs? Yes you are correct

Neo22 Yes you are correct pretty crazy, count me in!

I use a T Bar, it's my favorite back exercise.

I always liked push press to work my shoulders.




I need delt and back exercises...PLEASE

So making a shake with 2 scoops of ON is a bad idea right...

So making a shake with 2 scoops of ON is a bad idea right...


I could kill a moose with my wind right now.

2-3 scoops + CEE + water = drinktilyoustink

I use 2 scoops and have no gas

i use 2 scoops 3 times a day

You guys are such pessimists. Having gas just makes for funny situations.

i use two scoops of ON... 2ce a day...

then again i fart and shit a lot...

fiber farts>protein farts

XsLiCk then again i fart and shit a lot... 2 scoops 4 times a day = wow

I have 2 scoops a day max

No 4 scoops no care

I used to take 6 scoops a day and the gas wasn't THAT bad

tize i like to hold my farts in until im in class ill walk by someones face and fart or ill let it loose on the elevator I prefer to crop dust the circuit training area of the gym.

D-GUy fiber farts>protein farts high fibre/protein diet farts >*

Chris3G i use 2 scoops 3 times a day Werd... my shits are the best theyve ever been since I've been on ON Whey. I have a lil gas ... but no more than I'd have otherwise with the stuff I eat.

Dragon high fibre/protein diet farts >* ya I'm with you there...


















So making a shake with 2 scoops of ON is a bad idea right...

how do you lose face fat?

how do you lose face fat?


pretty much under your chin and under the cheek area... i've tried jogging, and ive lost some weight and can see the difference in the stomach area, but my face looks the same

read the sticky

lower your calorie in take (eat less), raise your calories burned (exercise more). you can't pick and choose what fat you'll lose. read the sticky at the top of the page for more info. EDIT : christophers' sticky http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1561528

fat is burned globally! If it wasnt u could chew gum everyday and lose the fat from your face.

cool thanks

i suppose you can build up facial/jaw muscle by chewing lots of hard ass gum and maybe get more definition once you bring the fat off. sorta like lifting weights to tone up?

May sound wacky, but my face look a little leaner if I add a quite bit of good fat to my carb meals e.g. A tablespoon of flax and 2 tablespoons of olive oil with some rice and a protein source. It's healthy fat so don't worry about the calories, they're needed . Try it for one meal, it seems to work for me, it may not for you edit - I have abolsutely no science here, just my own personal experiance to what works for me.

ryazbeck i suppose you can build up facial/jaw muscle by chewing lots of hard ass gum and maybe get more definition once you bring the fat off. sorta like lifting weights to tone up?

get bigger traps

kronik85 lower your calorie in take (eat less), raise your calories burned (exercise more). you can't pick and choose what fat you'll lose. read the sticky at the top of the page for more info. EDIT : christophers' sticky http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1561528 .

ryazbeck i suppose you can build up facial/jaw muscle by chewing lots of hard ass gum and maybe get more definition once you bring the fat off. sorta like lifting weights to tone up? wow

sucking 11ty cox and proper diet

NoXeN sucking 11ty cox and proper diet

face fat loss is just one of those nice side effects of proper dieting

Face fat is another thing somewhat controlled by genetics. Look at Marshall Faulk -- one of the best athletes in the NFL a few years ago. He looked like a beer bum in the face.

wow, my face fat is the first to go. I think the tummy fat will be the slow last.

I've always wondered this too, I'm went from 18% to ~14% and my face didn't really change, still chubby, someone said if I get under 10% I should see a bigger difference.

its hard to notice changes by looking at yourself unless it was a huge change. Ask someone who hasnt seen you in awhile. QBoost Controllers I've always wondered this too, I'm went from 18% to ~14% and my face didn't really change, still chubby, someone said if I get under 10% I should see a bigger difference.

when i went from 200 > 180 i didnt notice any changes from my face but everyone toldme i lost weight.

you lose face fat first....

ever seen those really fat chicks with thin faces/jawlines.......its like that...they've got a ways to go

danknuggs you lose face fat first.... Everyone doesn't lose fat at the same places first, sorry.

nathanbx Everyone doesn't lose fat at the same places first, sorry. in general...

i dont lose face fat until im 6% and under

If it hasn't been covered, stop drinking alcohol. I did and people notice the difference.

how do you lose face fat?

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