Wednesday, December 4, 2013

Bulking confusion

Bulking confusion


when a lot of you guys bulk it seems like you don't really put that much on around your stomach. i want to bulk because i'm sick of having these little pussy boy arms, but it seems like my body likes to just deposit everything onto my midsection creating huge love handles. i've read all the stickies and i've frequented the forums for awhile now. i understand that you put on fat when bulking, but the main reason i don't want to bulk is because my love handles look sick enough as it is. i'd rather not give them more reason to get bigger. does clean bulking actually prevent this or is there anything i can do to combat my love handles taking on the bulk of the fat gain? i'm sure this has been answered, but i don't even know what to search for. pics for reference

if you bulk correctly, you'll gain significant fat around the midsection. that's just how it is. the people on here who are "bulking" and not gaining fat aren't really bulking. keep eating shitloads of food and ignore your stomach for a couple of months. concentrate on getting stronger and bigger each and every week. eat everything in sight.

Werdna if you bulk correctly, you'll gain significant fat around the midsection. that's just how it is. the people on here who are "bulking" and not gaining fat aren't really bulking. keep eating shitloads of food and ignore your stomach for a couple of months. concentrate on getting stronger and bigger each and every week. eat everything in sight. well, i've been cutting since is started lifting in october. my body composition has changed quite a bit since then. I want to bulk so i can put on more muslce, but it's really difficult for me to tell myself to get fat again.

I know how you feel man because I'm cutting right now and I will through summer but I know im not gonna wanna bulk because I'll lose my pretty definition. But I know im going to have to go through with it. Thats just how that shiet goes man.

i understand this will take longer, but would it work to bulk for a month and then cut and repeat?

I've been bulking for the past 2 weeks to put on muscle, its worked - I'm at my strongest ever so far. My fiancee isn't complaining about that. She is complaining about the gut though. Alas, I must start cutting soon

why is everyone acting like they can't stand to increase their body fat for more than a couple months? if you just want a little more muscle mass in a certain area, then bulking is only going to be temporary, and then after that you're free to cut and you'll never have to bulk again. being more satisfied with your body for the rest of your life > a few months of getting 'fat'

evi1eddie why is everyone acting like they can't stand to increase their body fat for more than a couple months? if you just want a little more muscle mass in a certain area, then bulking is only going to be temporary, and then after that you're free to cut and you'll never have to bulk again. being more satisfied with your body for the rest of your life > a few months of getting 'fat' well, i started working out to lower by bf and i haven't gotten to the point where i consider myself "fit." it's just hard to get fatter when you've worked hard to get rid of it.

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disblohs well, i started working out to lower by bf and i haven't gotten to the point where i consider myself "fit." it's just hard to get fatter when you've worked hard to get rid of it. i sympathize, don't get me wrong these are just the facts, if you want to gain you're going to have to bulk. stop focusing on the short term, and think of the long term and how it will be worth it. you've lost fat before, so you already know you can do it again.

evi1eddie i sympathize, don't get me wrong these are just the facts, if you want to gain you're going to have to bulk. stop focusing on the short term, and think of the long term and how it will be worth it. you've lost fat before, so you already know you can do it again. that's the only good thing to come from my cutting this summer...i proved to myself i could lose fat effectively

Werdna that's the only good thing to come from my cutting this summer...i proved to myself i could lose fat effectively i don't feel like i can. that's one of my main problems.

how about when you start to have a double chin? is that a bad sign or normal when bulking?

Joser how about when you start to have a double chin? is that a bad sign or normal when bulking? i know EXACTLY what you're talking about i started having that before i started cutting, but honestly i should have kept on bulking. its bitter-sweet being able to see all the lbm you've put on but also knowing there could've been a lot more.

Joser how about when you start to have a double chin? is that a bad sign or normal when bulking? well, you'll be gaining fat...just enjoy the food and the gains

when someone is bulking right about how much weight should they be gaining per week?

what I want to know is for how long should you bulk? Is 2 months a significant amount of time to bulk and then cut, or should you bulk for a longer/shorter period of time?

Werdna if you bulk correctly, you'll gain significant fat around the midsection. that's just how it is. the people on here who are "bulking" and not gaining fat aren't really bulking. keep eating shitloads of food and ignore your stomach for a couple of months. concentrate on getting stronger and bigger each and every week. eat everything in sight. funny you say that, coming from someone who eats dirty on a bulk... correlation? I don't care what anyone says, the people that stress these dirty ass bulks are always the one complaining of getting fat on their bulks. I argue this every time because it's true. my recommendation, eat clean and stick to low GI carbs.. it's basically a high calorie cut.

evi1eddie i know EXACTLY what you're talking about i started having that before i started cutting, but honestly i should have kept on bulking. its bitter-sweet being able to see all the lbm you've put on but also knowing there could've been a lot more. . i am bulking. i was 112 but i got up to 142 in 4-5 months. lately im trying to eat "cleaner" just to experiment. i still eat 6 meals a day. in the past 2-3 weeks but i lost 9 lbs . suprisingly i made gains. maybe noob gains but gains are gains. my question is, is there really such thing as clean bulking? because so far, it seems like ive been losing weight rather than gaining weight.

wutang banga what I want to know is for how long should you bulk? Is 2 months a significant amount of time to bulk and then cut, or should you bulk for a longer/shorter period of time? in general, 2 months is just getting your feet wet. if you've never bulked before then you probably don't have a significant amount of lean body mass to begin with, and will most likely want to bulk 12 months or more before you stop and evaluate if you're ready to cut. i was new and stupid so i only bulked for 6 months and now that i'm seeing what i'm cutting down to, i'm really starting to wish i went longer. for me its like christmas morning and i have a present in a huge box. but then i find out it was mostly just packaging and when i finally dig deep enough i find out it was just a pair of socks.

SteveO funny you say that, coming from someone who eats dirty on a bulk... correlation? I don't care what anyone says, the people that stress these dirty ass bulks are always the one complaining of getting fat on their bulks. I argue this every time because it's true. my recommendation, eat clean and stick to low GI carbs.. it's basically a high calorie cut. i saw that you posted your typical day of food in another thread. any idea how much you spent on food a week?

Joser . i am bulking. i was 112 but i got up to 142 in 4-5 months. lately im trying to eat "cleaner" just to experiment. i still eat 6 meals a day. in the past 2-3 weeks but i lost 9 lbs . suprisingly i made gains. maybe noob gains but gains are gains. my question is, is there really such thing as clean bulking? because so far, it seems like ive been losing weight rather than gaining weight. is there such a thing as clean bulking? depends on who you talk to. some say a calorie is a calorie and some say that macronutrients like saturated fat are more easily converted to body fat than other nutrition sources. but whether you're clean bulking or dirty bulking the most important thing is still your total calorie intake for the day. the difficulty most people find in clean bulking is that the food is generally lower in calories which means they have to eat more of it, which in itself is already difficult, but it also means that it's more expensive to get a certain amount of calories through clean foods than 'dirty' foods. it sounds like this is where your weight loss is coming from. even though you're eating the same amount of food, the food has less calories so you're going to need to eat a lot more of it to get over your maintenance calorie threshold. at your weight, you're going to want to eat at least 3,500 - 4,000 calories a day to gain weight, whether it be dirty calories or clean calories. www.fitday.com to check your caloric intake on your new diet.

christophers laugh it up, unlike everyone else on this board I am not the one getting fat on bulks.

disblohs i saw that you posted your typical day of food in another thread. any idea how much you spent on food a week? don't know, it's all bought in bulk.. I'd say around $70 every 2 weeks? not counting whey

christophers ps: i forget but havent you been in the 220 area for a long time now? yep surely have, actually for around 5 months now.. but 3 months of injury can hurt someone right?

Bulking confusion

CEE Dosage??

CEE Dosage??


So i have been taking monohydrate, and i am nearing the end of my 1000g container. I just ordered 600g of CEE from beyond a century and i'm expecting delivery any day this week. I was wondering if i should change my dosage when going from the monohydrate to the CEE. For example a CEE loading phase in the beginning or just continue taking regular dosages. Also what would you guys suggest for a dosage (5-10g/day) and when to take it (morning/night-pre/post workout)?

CEE doesnt need to be loaded. take 3-5g a day. recommended in Orange Juice so that you dont come back and complain about the taste like everyone else

gsteclipse97 CEE doesnt need to be loaded. take 3-5g a day. recommended in Orange Juice so that you dont come back and complain about the taste like everyone else orange juice is good but it still won't mask the CEE

Yea, i have seen the posts about taking it with orange juice. When should i take it, before or after i workout or split 2.5 pre/2.5 post

I usually take two level teaspoons (somewhere between 3 and 5 grams)

ACURA TL-S I usually take two level teaspoons (somewhere between 3 and 5 grams) When do you take it pre or postworkout?

christophers like you keep any of it down with your putting it in water And I still put it in water. I will never learn.

I take mine by mixing it with as little water as possible and taking it like a shot. Then drink lots of water to rinse out my mouth. Also, I have heard crystal light works well.

Mine arrived today. It burned my nose when I sniffed it.
































CEE Dosage??

talk about artificially inflated blood pressure

talk about artificially inflated blood pressure


so, finished my workout today, and i was completetly beat. not sure if i have allergies or am just run down, but i wasnt impressed, my stamina sucked, and my heart was pounding when i got home. so, i measured my BP. 20 mins after workout 159/90!! pulse of 110 35-40 mins after workout: 129/80, pulse of 90 damn. time for some cardio.

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talk about artificially inflated blood pressure

Tuesday, December 3, 2013

Designer Whey and cutting FAT

Designer Whey and cutting FAT


Just wondering if something like Designer Whey would be ok to take after weight training workouts. I'm trying to cut fat plus build muscle, so I have my cardio and weight days....would whey protein be ok after my weight workouts? thanks

Why wouldnt it? Would you ask the same about eating a piece of chicken after a work out?

yes, but cutting fat and building muscle is not going to happen. You'll have to pick one.

Chris3G yes, but cutting fat and building muscle is not going to happen. You'll have to pick one. so you're saying the informationin 'christophers' sticky threads are false? i'm not trying to become a body builder here.

eliktronix so you're saying the informationin 'christophers' sticky threads are false? i'm not trying to become a body builder here. show me where christophers has EVER said you can cut fat and build muscle at the same time, unless you are complelely new to lifting and working out, or on steroids.

Chris3G show me where christophers has EVER said you can cut fat and build muscle at the same time, unless you are complelely new to lifting and working out, or on steroids. Those are the only ways that can be accomplished.

eliktronix so you're saying the informationin 'christophers' sticky threads are false? i'm not trying to become a body builder here. its more about maintaining lbm through lifting and a little more calorie usage through epoc. no one said not to lift weights though.

christophers i am getting annoyed at the ever so increasing suggestions to lose fat first through aerobic exercise and THEN begin weight training. this is so backwards. so. very. backwards. high intensity weight lifting will: build muscle mass build strength increase fat loss improve metabolism make you look a fuck of a lot better than waiting until you're done losing fat will. just following what he said since his advice has worked for me so far and yes i'm still new to a lot of this


































Designer Whey and cutting FAT

how to become a pt?

how to become a pt?


Ive thought of becoming a personal trainer next year or the year after so I could get a nice summer job or something. What exactly does it take to become a personal trainer?

lack of ambition

lol

i have also been wondering something similar, im thinking about studying kinesiology as either my minor or as a double major, what kind of promising good jobs are there for someone interested in this feild? i really dont know alot about that, any help?

steel cut oats

knowing how to recommend circuit training and doing every exercise with a swiss ball

simply post on OT with uneducated stupid comments, then you'll be like pt

dmaestro steel cut oats you fucking asshole you beat me to it

Mike McDermott DAMMIT, you beat me haha w3rd

sans_pants Ive thought of becoming a personal trainer next year or the year after so I could get a nice summer job or something. What exactly does it take to become a personal trainer? just annoy me and eat your oats

All the male pt's are some of the most out of shape people I've seen at my gym. 40" waists, flab, double chins - it always makes me wonder who is willing to pay $67/hour to get training from these people. They may "know" how to train, but if they are too lazy to have a decent body themselves, they are worthless to me.



7th Ninjai All the male pt's are some of the most out of shape people I've seen at my gym. 40" waists, flab, double chins - it always makes me wonder who is willing to pay $67/hour to get training from these people. They may "know" how to train, but if they are too lazy to have a decent body themselves, they are worthless to me. Im a PT, i dont have a 40" waist, or a double chin, infact im sure im bigger than you, whos worthless now

Jeff Coleman Im a PT, i dont have a 40" waist, or a double chin, infact im sure im bigger than you, whos worthless now you suck at reading comprehension

i didnt get one serious answer

just get some worthless cert, really thats all most pt's have anyway. Oh and good people/salesman skills.

I love reading that story

best story ever.

good stuff...

christophers what story is the one when timmy comes to the compound?

shastaisforwinners you suck at reading comprehension

Jeg1983 what story is the one when timmy comes to the compound? http://www.elitefts.com/documents/sick_of_your_gym6.htm

good read, although most PT's wouldn't do it

While our verbal efforts of "Stay tight" were obviously unsuccessful, Jim found a much brasher but effective way for Timmy to stay tight throughout the lift. As Timmy gripped the bar awaiting his hand-off, Jim took the two board and smashed it across Timmy's chest. So much so that Timmy's hands left the bar, curled up and began hugging his sternum. Timmy began wheezing and it was obvious that he didn't want us to know that he had gotten the wind knocked out of him. After about 30 seconds, he was about to take the weight off the bar when Jim told him to stop. Jim lifted the board and made the motion as if to hit him again and Timmy froze and began wincing. Jim stopped short and said; "See how tight you are now? Feel how tense your muscles are now that you are expecting to get hit? That's how every set and every rep has to be. You came here to learn how to bench press and if you can't handle the methods then don't expect results." Timmy finally got it, and did not have a problem the rest of the workout. This is how everyone should learn how to stay tight under the bench.

seems needlessly cruel

how to become a pt?

I fucking love the gym! v.repost?mebbe

I fucking love the gym! v.repost?mebbe


http://www.thephatphree.com/features...StoryYear=2005 Posted: 4/15/2005 by: Chad Zumock I can't wait to workout today! I'm going to do Chest & Biceps, actually I think I'll do Tris and Lats, or maybe Legs and Abs. Fuck it! I'm lifting everything! I'll do 16 sets of everything today. It doesn't matter. I love weights! I fucking love lifting them! I love the gym; I'm probably going to stay here for six hours today because I love working out so much! Alright time to get busy. I'm going to make incredibly obnoxious noises so the whole entire gym knows I'm lifting heavy weights. I can bench press 350 lbs. I can squat 500 lbs. Everyone will know this before I leave the gym today. Jesus, my tan looks great under these lights! I think I'll step it up to four times a week and a couple extra minutes in the bed. I tan naked! I'm so tan everywhere! I love being tan! I love protein shakes more than anything in life! I drink 50 protein shakes a day. I'm drinking one right now. I want to shit protein! I fucking love this shit! Is that a mirror? I'll look in it from the corner of eye so no one knows I'm looking at myself. God, I wish I could look dead-on at myself right now because I look that fucking good! LOOK AT MY BICEPS! They look so huge today. I know other people are looking at them, and I'll just let them look. I don't blame them one bit. My arms are enormous! Shit! My batteries in my CD player are running low. Fuck! How am I supposed to listen to my Korn CD? How am I going to get pumped up without it? Damn, my arms look huge today! Check out that chick. She fucking wants me. You can tell. I don't blame her. I look great! . She wants to touch these ARMS! I will let her touch them if she asks nicely. My penis is so small. It doesn't really matter, I'm so 'cut' everywhere else. My chest and my arms are ripped! Besides, my penis gets a little bigger when it's hard. It doesn't matter, I'm HUGE everywhere else. JUST LOOK AT THESE BICEPS! I need a more supplements RIGHT NOW!! I'm going to GNC after the gym and I'm going to spend $800 on bullshit pills with this shitty gold card that proves I go to GNC. I'm going to buy Amino Acids, and everything else just to buy it! I just want to spend my money there so bad! I think I'm done working out for the day. I could work out all day if I wanted too, but my HUGE muscles need to rest. I feel so swoll! I'm going to go get another protein shake. It helps my muscle recovery. I love protein so much! God, my penis is so small.

wtf?

im so offended, im never working out again



at looking in the mirror part. i hate douchebags who masturbate to themselves in the gym mirrors

this is your worst post ever

superbri007

I'm not sure if I should , , , or , so I'm just going to for the hell of it

JoeyCrack this is your worst post ever Oh come on! Haven't you ever seen the one like this about the striped shirt dude?? It made me laugh, there's so many asses like this at my gym.

girls dont lift weights!

Elfling Oh come on! Haven't you ever seen the one like this about the striped shirt dude?? It made me laugh, there's so many asses like this at my gym. sorry this one made my head hurt

I cant helpt it if my cannonball delts mesmerize all the fat menopausal sea cows on the ellipticals...

Mass I cant helpt it if my cannonball delts mesmerize all the fat menopausal sea cows on the ellipticals...

Illll give you a protein shaaaakeeee mothafuckaaaa.

i think it's clearly and obviously a satire/joke column?

+20

I suck I can't believe I missed this...

Idiot.














I fucking love the gym! v.repost?mebbe

Ex Fatty Crew! Need some advice!

Ex Fatty Crew! Need some advice!


Ok so here is my deal. Former fatty, 255-190.. cutting till 180 or lower depending on how I look.. no less than 165 though, and I am not sure where to go with all this next. Ideally I will most likely get down to my original goal weight of 180 within the next few weeks and then decide if I want to maintain or go lower. The way things are looking I don't think I'll be happy at 180 so I'll most likely keep cutting till 165 or so. After that I guess I'll maintain and then come fall bulk. I want to bulk up to like 180 (if i go down to 165) and then cut again. Now here is my question. Did you guys find it hard to judge your progress when bulking, intentionally, for the first time after a long cut? How long did you wait? I am worried that I'm gonna start to see a gain in weight but not much of a gain when it comes to muscle mass and strength. Any advice? IBMANUPANDSTOPBEINGABITCH!

Only thing about being ex-fat and then bulking that I am concerned about is gauging progress properly. Its hard with loose skin. :-| Not having a flat stomach but being able to see your ribs and 4 abs = lose.

I used to weigh 260. I cutt down to 168 about 2-1/2yrs ago. I bulk in the winter months and start to cutt for summer around February-May, generally about 12-16 weeks. This gives me pleanty of time to get lean for spring/summer. It's not hard if you get over the subconcious feeling that you are going to get fat again. Check your BF% through the bulking process to make sure you are gaining good mass. Just eat clean and carry the discipline it took to lose over to gaining quality mass.

Deezgst - how tall are you? How did you look at 168?










































Ex Fatty Crew! Need some advice!

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