Friday, November 29, 2013

Arnold Pic

Arnold Pic




repost x11tyhundredbillion

we ARE going to look like that eventually like it or not

trancezj repost x11tyhundredbillion sorry.

took ya long enough to repost that from the main forum

christophers who cares. hes old and still the man. seriously

i see cuts still. arnold>*

Anyone have a date on that photo? Is it before or after he got in shape for T3?

Oh God! I thought the flatness look was a myth! But who gives a shit what you look like when you're like 65?

after shoulder surgery but before t3 I heard

Socrates Oh God! I thought the flatness look was a myth! But who gives a shit what you look like when you're like 65? He's 57, 58 in July.

7th Ninjai He's 57, 58 in July. Eh, still not too bad. I hear the sex isn't too great at 57.

fuck his age. he still warms up with more than my 1RM

7th Ninjai Anyone have a date on that photo? Is it before or after he got in shape for T3? That photo is from this weekend I guess. http://www.thisislondon.com/showbiz/...e=Daily%20Mail

tofu That photo is from this weekend I guess. http://www.thisislondon.com/showbiz/...e=Daily%20Mail He let all the work for T3 go?

Oh noes! People get old and don't look as good as they did when they were young!

Ilyusha Oh noes! People get old and don't look as good as they did when they were young! He looked great 2 years ago in T3. Being a politician has owned his body

Ilyusha Oh noes! People get old and don't look as good as they did when they were young! are you serious ? I met this one guy at my old gym, He was in his 60's and had a body of someone in their 30's. The guy was big and shredded too. I guess he has been working out for like 37 years.

7th Ninjai He looked great 2 years ago in T3. Being a politician has owned his body I heard they used a latex body cover for his upper body in T3, so that he would look bigger and more cut than his real body.

Ilyusha I heard they used a latex body cover for his upper body in T3, so that he would look bigger and more cut than his real body. I read the opposite. A lot of people were guessing it was CGI, I read a quote from Arnold when the film came out that it was totally him.

this picture is bullshit and old...

Serge Nubret in his late 60's was stil guest posing. I couldn't find the pic I saw but he still looked pretty good. Arnold just has different priorites now. His appearrance has less to do with his age and more with his current commitments.

timberwolf Serge Nubret in his late 60's was stil guest posing. I couldn't find the pic I saw but he still looked pretty good. Arnold just has different priorites now. His appearrance has less to do with his age and more with his current commitments. dude has done more than 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 99999999999999x11y % of people will ever do. Imagine moving to a new country, becoming a super star and then governing one of their largest states.

timberwolf Serge Nubret in his late 60's was stil guest posing. I couldn't find the pic I saw but he still looked pretty good. Arnold just has different priorites now. His appearrance has less to do with his age and more with his current commitments.

gsxtasyd this picture is bullshit and old... The one on the beach is old. I read that was taken a year after his heart surgery. This pic seems legit.

Arnold Pic

Lifting safe with Spinal Fusion?

Lifting safe with Spinal Fusion?


I used to lift a few years ago, before I was a passenger in a serious car accident. Now, half my spine is fused together with titantium. My lower lumbar L4 and L5 shattered, and are now fused with the two above it and two below. I broke one of the rods a year later while I was shoveling snow, and had to get it replaced. It's pretty sturdy now with more metal fusing it together, but I don't know if I should start lifting again, at all. Anyone have experience with something like this, or know someone who has?

id ask a doctors advice personally when it comes to something this, more specifically they doctor who worked on you as he should know the condition your in best

Domo-Kun I used to lift a few years ago, before I was a passenger in a serious car accident. Now, half my spine is fused together with titantium. My lower lumbar L4 and L5 shattered, and are now fused with the two above it and two below. I broke one of the rods a year later while I was shoveling snow, and had to get it replaced. It's pretty sturdy now with more metal fusing it together, but I don't know if I should start lifting again, at all. Anyone have experience with something like this, or know someone who has? I'd definately talk to the doctor, don't let our advice ruin your life

Think about it. Do you think my Surgeon is going to risk a lawsuit by telling me that it's okay to lift? Hence why I'm asking about people with experience with this. Not just your guess as to what is probably safe or unsafe.

So what would you rather have, your doctor telling you not to lift because it's not safe, or us telling you it's safe to lift and fucking yourself up?

Davo So what would you rather have, your doctor telling you not to lift because it's not safe, or us telling you it's safe to lift and fucking yourself up? Are you thinking about what I said? Do you have experience with or know anyone with experience with a spinal fusion? If not, then no, I don't want you telling me it's safe.

Domo-Kun Think about it. Do you think my Surgeon is going to risk a lawsuit by telling me that it's okay to lift? Hence why I'm asking about people with experience with this. Not just your guess as to what is probably safe or unsafe. well I wouldn't see the problem with some lifts, as long as there isn't a large load of weight on your lower back. So avoid DL's, GM's, Squats, or anything else that might press a load on there.

count me out, i know no one with this surgery.

Domo-Kun Are you thinking about what I said? Do you have experience with or know anyone with experience with a spinal fusion? If not, then no, I don't want you telling me it's safe. yea but i think the point is no information on the internet forums can be taken as 100% true or false, its all about listening to good information and deciphering whats usuable information and whats junk as for all u know we are all 60yr old bustin our chops and killin time on the forums. Its one thing to become more knowledgeable about a certain topic but when personal status of ones well-being is at risk id turn towards a professional. often people with similiar symptoms could have completely different injuries and bodies could react differently and etc. I think as far as anyone knows u could lift lightly...or not lift at all..and i think that is the only an answer a doctor could give you, specially as this is not as common as spraining somthing or pulling a muscle so many people aren't well informed in this subject matter

So you're like a superhuman?

I would say no since it is your lumbar discs, they are under a lot of pressure, plus if you damage the nerves exposed between those discs you'd kinda miss their associated functions

igotyofire yea but i think the point is no information on the internet forums can be taken as 100% true or false, its all about listening to good information and deciphering whats usuable information and whats junk as for all u know we are all 60yr old bustin our chops and killin time on the forums. Its one thing to become more knowledgeable about a certain topic but when personal status of ones well-being is at risk id turn towards a professional. often people with similiar symptoms could have completely different injuries and bodies could react differently and etc. I think as far as anyone knows u could lift lightly...or not lift at all..and i think that is the only an answer a doctor could give you, specially as this is not as common as spraining somthing or pulling a muscle so many people aren't well informed in this subject matter Well I wouldn't rely on a "professional's" advice. Especially when that professional told me that I can do anything that I was able to do prior to the surgury, providing it doesn't cause me a great deal of pain. I was shoveling snow, and snap, one broke. Now, I know what you're saying.. If shoveling broke a titanium rod, then weight lifting is definately a no no. But, after talking to many different professionals about in incident, I believe it to have been a defective implant. In addition to this, the new 'cage' of titanium has a new design with more pieces, making it much more sturdy.

seeking information on something like this from otfn is beyond fucking retarded. It's rare condition that I doubt anyone will have any experience with. If your surgeon or specialist sucks, find a new one. If you trust us more than your doctor there is a serious problem.

Peal seeking information on something like this from otfn is beyond fucking retarded. It's rare condition that I doubt anyone will have any experience with. If your surgeon or specialist sucks, find a new one. If you trust us more than your doctor there is a serious problem. Where did I say I trust OT more than my surgeon? I said I wouldn't rely on my Surgeon's advice, because he was wrong the first time, and it put me in the hospital for a week to undergo another MAJOR surgery. I'm asking for people who might have experience with a spinal fusion. I didn't say that any information I gather from OT is going to make or break my decision to do any type of lifting. Don't ASSume. It's retarded to ask if someone on the forum knows anyone with a similar situation?

Domo-Kun It's retarded to ask if someone on the forum knows anyone with a similar situation? Nothing wrong with you asking that. Everyone just has to argue with you because they have nothing better to do. I asked a simple question earlier and instead of getting an answer to my question, a couple people just criticized it or got way off topic. Because they just want to argue or whatever the fuck their childish motives are.

ryazbeck Nothing wrong with you asking that. Everyone just has to argue with you because they have nothing better to do. I asked a simple question earlier and instead of getting an answer to my question, a couple people just criticized it or got way off topic. Because they just want to argue or whatever the fuck their childish motives are. Welcome to OT

yeah, you'll be fine. i wouldnt start out deadlifting more than 5 or 600lbs to start out though, take it easy for a few weeks. the titanium should actually make your back stronger right?

dank yeah, you'll be fine. i wouldnt start out deadlifting more than 5 or 600lbs to start out though, take it easy for a few weeks. the titanium should actually make your back stronger right? Not sure whether I should take that question as sarcasm or not. But, yes, it does make my spine stronger aside from the capabilities of my own muscles on them. If I get into another car accident, my spine is better off with the instruments than without. I should cite that as coming from the orthopedic/neurosurgeon, because they aren't my own words.

chadhova My dad just had this surgery on his C1 and C2. He was seriously fucked up for like 3 months after surgery. It's been 6 months now and he has just begun swinging golf clubs, much less lifting heavy. As you probably know, C1 and C2 is much more serious than yours but i'd still be very wary. One of these?

go to the Q&A at www.elitefts.com and address your question to Thomas

Ilyusha One of these? not exactly lower lumbar, but E for effort. More like these...

Ceaze go to the Q&A at www.elitefts.com and address your question to Thomas Thank you. Will do that right now.

Domo-Kun not exactly lower lumbar, but E for effort. More like these... Look who I was quoting.. E for effort for you on reading comprehension.

Ilyusha Look who I was quoting.. E for effort for you on reading comprehension. and yes, definately not that serious..

here's thomas' reply to you: My advice is to go slow. I would start with sled work. There is a great video here by Joe Kenn. you can do many lower body exercises with the sled and can of course add resistance in a less weight bearing manner. I would also try bodyweight squats off the box with perfect form. If you can do them, you can gradually add weight. Do this as a light test. Make the sled your primary weapon at this time.

Lifting safe with Spinal Fusion?

What kind of chicken do you get? cost?

What kind of chicken do you get? cost?


Just wondering what kind of chicken does everyone get? Where do you get it from? Cost as well? Protein Per Serving?

AmCo Just wondering what kind of chicken does everyone get? Where do you get it from? Cost as well? Protein Per Serving? heb 4 pounds 9.95

I dont buy chicken much anymore when its not on sale its about 3.99-4.99 a pound

I get bags of the frozen stuff from Costco. They're not as nutritional as fresh chicken, but right now it's all I can afford.

my frozen chicken never turns out right, so i buy smart chicken, which is like $5 a pound, but is soooo good.

i buy the frozen bags of Tyson chicken

4lb bags of tyson chicken tenders from costco

Ceaze i buy the frozen bags of Tyson chicken Ditto. If it is on sale at the grocery store I will grab it then and just throw it in the vacuum sealer with the marinade and the night before throw it in the fridge. By the time I get home it is defrosted, marinated, and ready for the grill.

cheap shit college > *

Ceaze i buy the frozen bags of Tyson chicken from Costco

I pay nearly 7 bucks a pound.

I'm hooked on Hill Country Fare's "premium chunk" Breast of Chicken (canned chicken). About 52g protein per can. 280 cals. Just open the can and eat. Like $1.5 a can.

Canned chicken is actually really good and a really quick meal

Costco 6 lb. bag, $13.xx.

i buy this brand called smart chicken, they have it at HEB. It's organic and grain fed and blah blah blah. What I like about it is that it's air chilled and it tastes better to me. Seems juicer, too. It's more expensive, though.

i just picked up some chicken from walmart. 12 Pieces Grilled Chicken Breast for 7 bucks. 110cal 4.5g Fat 15g Protein Probably have to eat two of these suckers (per meal i mean) =o

I wait for the sale about once a month and buy it at 1.99/lb. Boneless/skinless breasts. Otherwise it is 5/lb.

skinless boneless chicken breasts, fresh, not frozen, 1.99 a pound when on sale. sometimes i get lucky and its like 1.09 a pound

I buy it from walmart, either the tyson bag or the walmart brand...it's usually around 8-9 bucks

cellout i buy this brand called smart chicken, they have it at HEB. It's organic and grain fed and blah blah blah. What I like about it is that it's air chilled and it tastes better to me. Seems juicer, too. It's more expensive, though.

Ceaze i buy the frozen bags of Tyson chicken Me too, 10lbs for $24 I think.

xpinchx I get bags of the frozen stuff from Costco. They're not as nutritional as fresh chicken, but right now it's all I can afford. Ain't that the truth. Frozen chicken at our Costco in Jersey is about a dollar cheaper a pound so..that's what I get! Always skinless,boneless though.

Tyson factory. skinless boneless breasts 20lbs-$23 beat that.

Big ass bags of foster farms boneless/skinless breasts & the kirkland canned chicken in water from Costco

buffbronzenbtchn Costco 6 lb. bag, $13.xx. same

What kind of chicken do you get? cost?

i'm 6'2 170 lbs ... need some advice

i'm 6'2 170 lbs ... need some advice


i would like to know is there any thing i can intake that will allow me to increase my weight but not fat wise i know working out is key but i work 8-6 monday~saturday i come home and i'm exhausted but i do manage to do 100 pushups/25lb 4 sets of 12 bicep/tricep curls so that my body can stay in shape would a protein supplement(whey) in any way benefit me or is it only necessary for full time gym people ?

stupid noobs do 500pushups a night and you'll be hitting 300s on the bench in no time.

knucks stupid noobs do 500pushups a night and you'll be hitting 300s on the bench in no time. ethug

Read the stickies. And dont make faggot excuses. I work from 6:30-5 everyday. I still go. You have to want it. PERIOD

Fabian Read the stickies. And dont make faggot excuses. I work from 6:30-5 everyday. I still go. You have to want it. PERIOD thx for link fabian

my job is very physically demanding.. me and my dad run a remodeling co.. work itself is a workout and at the end of the day.. you are literally exhausted

stickies > you

Eat

Stickies.

run of the mill response

-100/10

creatine will increase your weight if taken correctly, and strength too. but kinda pointless if you're not actualy gonna really lift. research it more for info. instead of doing 100 pushups and curls, take 45 minutes and go to the gym (that's all it takes, i promise) and get a good real workout. read the stickies as advised, they really are useful though it is a ton of reading.

here's a link to the stickies, they're at the top of the page http://forums.offtopic.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16 or hell, just hit back on your browser. they're the threads saying "Sticky : thread topic"

Frisco crew holla.

China i would like to know is there any thing i can intake that will allow me to increase my weight but not fat wise i know working out is key but i work 8-6 monday~saturday my thoughts..................... 1) i'm 6'2" and 179.5 lbs... was 184 lbs a couple weeks ago, got real sick, dropped to 174 and now i'm almost at 180 again. started workin out a few years ago i was 145 lbs and 6'2"... THAT sucked. 2) EAT - like a mother fuck. drink protein shakes between meals w/ an apple or banana. 3) DRINK - tons and tons of h20. me and the bathroom are GOOD friends. 4) i work 8-4:30 M-F on my "9-5" job, go to class mon, tue, wed, thur, and sun for 1.5 hrs during the week and 3 hours on the sunday class. i workout tue, thur, sat in the morning before going to work for 1 hr. i do cardio on the alt days for 30-35 mins and rest on sunday. good luck... it takes TONS of work.. and if you want to gain weight you have to EAT.

China my job is very physically demanding.. me and my dad run a remodeling co.. work itself is a workout and at the end of the day.. you are literally exhausted If you want it bad enough there is always time. I worked as a Diesel Mechanic last summer and came home dirty and tired but still made it a point to lift. Truck parts are heavy as are the tools needed to work on them. Id spend 8 hrs running an impact gun the size of my leg and barely be able to hold onto the steering wheel on the way home because my forearms were blasted but still lifted. I was increadably tired for a week or so but adapted and the gains show it. Lifting after work will be a drain on you but if you eat properly your body will adapt. Basically, stop making excuses and make time if you really want it, also read the stickies, the information is there for a reason.

since ur work is so exhausting, you're probably burning a shitload of calories thus you are skinny...eat more. and if you're too exhausted to lift, then your sol. lift on your days off from work even if its only 2 days a week, better than nothing. focus on heavy compound movements, squat, dead, bench, row, chin. do that and eat a lot, you shall gain weight.

[QUOTE=GTPBR] Id spend 8 hrs running an impact gun the size of my leg and barely be able to hold onto the steering wheel on the way home because my forearms were blasted but still lifted. QUOTE] damn that sounds like it'd give you huge forearms pics?

[QUOTE=Undefined] GTPBR Id spend 8 hrs running an impact gun the size of my leg and barely be able to hold onto the steering wheel on the way home because my forearms were blasted but still lifted. QUOTE] damn that sounds like it'd give you huge forearms pics? Thats whatd I figured but it didnt happen. And by leg I mean the size of my thigh, that thing was heavy as shit. Wasnt eating enough to pack on a lot of muscle but by the end of the summer I was stronger then I had ever been and had a crazy grip (not Grouch level but I was impressed). I started college in August and I've gotten soft but got back in the weightroom in January so I'm back on track.

China my job is very physically demanding.. me and my dad run a remodeling co.. work itself is a workout and at the end of the day.. you are literally exhausted Mine is probably moreso than yours. I work 40 hours a week doing freight/recieving. We generally move at about 2000 pieces every 2 hours for 8 hours straight. So every shift I pick up and move roughly 8,000 boxes that weigh anywhere from 15-70 lbs. And I still work out about three times a week. BTW, read the stickies and the F&N archives.

great advice guys i'm now more motivated than ever before

China thx for link fabian No problem at all man. Most here will also help you, but some can act like jerkoffs at times if they feel like joking....only when your new to lifting, you sometimes can't distinguish

Good luck on not putting on any fat. I bulked from 145 to 170 with virtually ZERO fat gain, but as soon as I even tipped over 171, my stomach started slowly getting unscrawny.

China my job is very physically demanding..[ ] me and my dad run a remodeling co.. work itself is a workout and at the end of the day.. you are literally exhausted [ ] Oh.....muffin.....are you gonna be okay? Whatsssamatta? Sand where there shouldn't be sand? Man up and lift. It's not tricky. Plenty of people (me included) have had 10+ hour days of physical labor every day and have still gone to the gym.


i'm 6'2 170 lbs ... need some advice

Anyone have experience with creatine fuel by twinlabs?

Anyone have experience with creatine fuel by twinlabs?


I just bought some at GNC for $11....60 capsules...I figure it's easier than mixing it in a drink... http://www.a1nutritionproducts.com/b...eatine_fuel/60

anyone?

quickone I just bought some at GNC for $11....60 capsules...I figure it's easier than mixing it in a drink... http://www.a1nutritionproducts.com/b...eatine_fuel/60 I bet you have to take like 5 capsules in order to get the same amount as a teaspoon would give you for mixing in water. EDIT: if not, those must be some huge caps

yea i was curious, how much per cap?

A year or two ago I lifted with somebody who took creatine in caps and he had to take 5 caps before and 5 caps after... dunno how much was in each though.

that better not be liquid form -- is it?

no not liquid I dont think....take 6 caps per day...it says 3 caps before workout and 3 caps afterwards I just opened it up...it's clear capsules in powder form.

So you get 10 days worth for 11 bucks Powder, you'll get like half a years worth for 20.

Yeah...I guess I didnt really think about that...seemed easier this way...no mixing. but I got a container of the powder form as well.

quickone Yeah...I guess I didnt really think about that...seemed easier this way...no mixing. but I got a container of the powder form as well. You know you could cap powders yourself?

where do I get the stuff for that? and dont you have to mix the reg powder in stuff like grape juice or somethin to help it get absorbed into the body better? These capsuls say just take a full glass of water... Ingredients: Gelatin, Potato Starch, Cellulose, Purified Water, MCT, Magnesium Stearate, and Silica.

quickone where do I get the stuff for that? and dont you have to mix the reg powder in stuff like grape juice or somethin to help it get absorbed into the body better? These capsuls say just take a full glass of water... Ingredients: Gelatin, Potato Starch, Cellulose, Purified Water, MCT, Magnesium Stearate, and Silica. http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=1578

Thanks...any advice on a good scale to use? and whats the diff between "0" and "00" capping kits? I may get the deluxe capping kit that comes with the "my weigh 200-z scale" unless anyone thinks theres a better scale out there for around the same price...
























Anyone have experience with creatine fuel by twinlabs?

My three months 30 pound loss pics.

My three months 30 pound loss pics.


and the before pics

Any before pics? And are you actually lifting? Genuine question...

before pics so we can see the difference?

I just started lifting like 2 weeks ago, before that I was just biking 20 - 30 miles a day.

killerZees I just started lifting like 2 weeks ago, before that I was just biking 20 - 30 miles a day. 20-30 miles a day? How do you find the time?

Silver85327 20-30 miles a day? How do you find the time? to and from work 15 miles each way.

killerZees to and from work 15 miles each way. Wow I'm sure your coworkers love working with you

Boomer Wow I'm sure your coworkers love working with you We have a shower.

killerZees I just started lifting like 2 weeks ago, before that I was just biking 20 - 30 miles a day. Good job on the weight loss

Good work

Before pics!

Yea we need some before pics. I am probably going to be buying a bike so I can get some more cardio cause I turn into a prune when I spend 40 minutes in the pool.

woowee, good job

Yeah baby! Yeaah! Groovy!

before pics posted.

Damn, that belly went away!

sweet man.. keep hitting those weights

great work man, now hit the weights hard!

you lost all your belly hair

Silver85327 you lost all your belly hair

holy cow! great job!!! Did you alter your diet in any way? Take any pills? Or just do the bike riding?

nic379 holy cow! great job!!! Did you alter your diet in any way? Take any pills? Or just do the bike riding? Well I stopped eating fast food, and I started eating regular portions. No pills although I have an ecy stack I just haven't taken any. Oh I drink about 8 waters a day.

omg theres a squirrel on yur chest.... KILL EEET!!!! edit:

nice work, but you need to hit the weights. can't have tats without muscles. that's just wrong

good job man.

My three months 30 pound loss pics.

Is it normal to bloat up a little bit while losing weight?

Is it normal to bloat up a little bit while losing weight?


I've been losing weight at a fairly steady pace of 2-3 lbs per week for the past 4 weeks. I've lost roughly 10 lbs total. I feel a lot healther, and I can tell my pants are fitting better. I can comfortably move up to the next notch on my belt, which I couldn't previously do. However the fat I still have seems to be a lot softer and squishier, and my love handles appear to be sticking out quite a bit more than they were the past couple weeks from my initial slimming down. Is this normal? Here's the rate I've been losing weight : 3/30/05 - 226 lbs 4/6/05 - 222 lbs 4/13/05 - 219 lbs 4/20/05 - 216.5 lbs

what does your diet look like? Just wondering because you are losing weight but is it fat? Makes me wonder because of what you said.

jaymode what does your diet look like? Just wondering because you are losing weight but is it fat? Makes me wonder because of what you said. Main things: Chicken breast (with seasoning, sometimes with a tbs of BBQ sauce, but most of the time I just eat it plain) Deli sandwich (shaved turkey breast with swiss cheese on whole wheat bread. Sometimes a thin slice of hard solami) Oatmeal Yogurt Cottage cheese Peanuts Raw fruits+veggies And I drink nothing but water and propell fitness water. I've been eating pretty clean.

love handles are the usually the last to go! how i hate thee!

AmCo love handles are the usually the last to go! how i hate thee! hell yeah.

It seems you might be losing weight a little too fast. You could be burning some muscle along with the fat, which is why you feel a little more squishy and 'soft'. Also, don't let your mind think you are thinner than you really are because you've lost some weight.

Davo It seems you might be losing weight a little too fast. You could be burning some muscle along with the fat, which is why you feel a little more squishy and 'soft'. Also, don't let your mind think you are thinner than you really are because you've lost some weight. Yup, I am thinking you are losing a little to fast also. What do your calories and protein intake look like? How many cals below maintenance?

how do you figure out mainenance calories? is it 12X your body weight??

Could be retaining some water weight. How much are you drinking?

its normal to retain more water when you begin cardio. Water volume in plasma increases.

Fucker Could be retaining some water weight. How much are you drinking? A shit load. I don't know exactly how many ounces, but I fill up my Gatorade water bottle about 6 times a day or so.

jaymode Yup, I am thinking you are losing a little to fast also. What do your calories and protein intake look like? How many cals below maintenance? My maintenance calories are about 3844 and I consume anywhere from 2000-3000 a day. A large majority of this is proetin (chicken, cottage cheese, peanuts, turkey breast, etc.)

xpinchx A shit load. I don't know exactly how many ounces, but I fill up my Gatorade water bottle about 6 times a day or so. You're probably a little swolen from all the water. I usually drink a 1.5 Ltr bottle on weight days at the gym. A little less on cardio days. Anyway, I get a little swolen after.

I notice the same thing and even posted it a few days ago except I notice that my love handles sometimes appear bigger and then go back down. I do drink about a 1.5 gallons of water a day. My clothes feel alot looser so I must be doing something right . I'm down to a 34 from the 36 when I started. I'm on week 5 of my excercise and diet.

xpinchx My maintenance calories are about 3844 and I consume anywhere from 2000-3000 a day. A large majority of this is proetin (chicken, cottage cheese, peanuts, turkey breast, etc.) Going down to 2000 from 3844 is not gonna be good for retaining muscle mass. Even going down to 3000 is pushing it. If your goal is to lose fat and not weight I am pretty sure you only want to eat about 500 or so calories below maintenance. It is good however that most of them come from protein sources as that will help retain muscle.

jaymode Going down to 2000 from 3844 is not gonna be good for retaining muscle mass. Even going down to 3000 is pushing it. If your goal is to lose fat and not weight I am pretty sure you only want to eat about 500 or so calories below maintenance. It is good however that most of them come from protein sources as that will help retain muscle. Honestly, I usually eat on the upper end of 2000 calories depending on the day. I'd say an average of 3,000, plus I'm lifting 3-4 times a week. Muscle loss isn't a huge issue for me, but the less I lose the merrier.

xpinchx My maintenance calories are about 3844 and I consume anywhere from 2000-3000 a day. A large majority of this is proetin (chicken, cottage cheese, peanuts, turkey breast, etc.) Your maintenance should be no where near 3844. It should be like 2500-2800

Grouch Your maintenance should be no where near 3844. It should be like 2500-2800 Baseline calorie needs then? It's the number I got from the Harris-Benedict formula + activity factor.

xpinchx Baseline calorie needs then? It's the number I got from the Harris-Benedict formula + activity factor. I thought it was body weight x 11. maybe I'm wrong for one.

i always lose a shitload of water when i begin to cut. i hold alot when i bulk

Grouch I thought it was body weight x 11. maybe I'm wrong for one. Find your BMR: Women: BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight in pounds ) + ( 4.7 x height in inches ) - ( 4.7 x age in years ) Men: BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) - ( 6.8 x age in year ) Then multiply that by your daily fitness level: If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2 If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375 If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55 If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725 If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9 I come up with about 3.8k. This is your baseline calorie needs, in other words, that's about how many calories you will burn in a day by just sitting around breathing, chewing food, walking to your car, shopping, etc. Body weight x 11 would give you about the amount of calories you need to eat to lose weight healthily.

xpinchx Find your BMR: Then multiply that by your daily fitness level: I come up with about 3.8k. This is your baseline calorie needs, in other words, that's about how many calories you will burn in a day by just sitting around breathing, chewing food, walking to your car, shopping, etc. Body weight x 11 would give you about the amount of calories you need to eat to lose weight healthily. [/list] by those calculations, im around 800 cals in deficit, yet havent lost a pound in 2 weeks

yo nizzle by those calculations, im around 800 cals in deficit, yet havent lost a pound in 2 weeks The number you get is sort of a ball park figure. There's a lot more variables such as metabolism, how often you're eating, how clean you're eating, etc.

xpinchx The number you get is sort of a ball park figure. There's a lot more variables such as metabolism, how often you're eating, how clean you're eating, etc. eat 3 times a day, eating pretty clean wheat bread, turkey slices, chicken breast, white rice, protein shakes

xpinchx The number you get is sort of a ball park figure. There's a lot more variables such as metabolism, how often you're eating, how clean you're eating, etc. I soaped down my fries twice before I ate them last night, is that clean enough?

Is it normal to bloat up a little bit while losing weight?

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