psmf question

psmf question

While on this fasting do i still do cardio? Ill probably still do weight training. Im probably going to try this fast for around 2-3 weeks to see how it goes.

AmCo While on this fasting do i still do cardio? Ill probably still do weight training. Im probably going to try this fast for around 2-3 weeks to see how it goes. 1. cardio will generally quicken metabolic slowdown on a psmf. Besides, as Chris said, the deficit is so great that another 200 calories isn't really going to do shit. 2. probably do some weight training? No. You NEED to be doing some maintenance training if you want to keep as much lbm as possible.

psmf question

Hockey = best and funnest cardio

Hockey = best and funnest cardio

Played a full game today of intramural...I haven't played in a few months, but it was the best cardio I've done for a while. The most important part of cardio is having fun. Running, swimming, elliptical, rowing, just don't do it for me

i agree. are you playing road hockey or like shinny? i love hockey and play alot during the year. I have 2 games a week and it is good cardio for sure. High intensity, and alot of fun. i always get off the ice drenched in sweat i have a passion for the sport i just love stepping onto the rink and dropping the shoulder into a few guys... ugh this is making me want to play

yeah shinny, basically helmet, gloves, and shins no hitting though. which is okay because I wouldn't want to crack skulls and break people in half

Shaolin_sword36 yeah shinny, basically helmet, gloves, and shins no hitting though. which is okay because I wouldn't want to crack skulls and break people in half yea i obviously dont deck guys in shinny either. i was referring to real hockey, full pads, in a competitive league. both are fun

UoT?

I start summer league next month woohooo!

rollerhockey in a few more weeks. maybe i'll register this year

i have 2 hockey classes this semester and i'm also gonna be playing a lot of roller hockey during the summer...hockey is definitely badass

yeah. i had a game tonite. its the only sport i play other than raquetball.

Its pretty much the only physical activity that I enjoy. My season ended 3 weeks ago and I'm starting to go insane from missing it.

funnest?

surfing is better cardio

hockey is definatly fun, but fullcourt basketball wins for cardio

roller hockey is my cardio. it rules. a couple games a week. i would do ice, but its kinda hard down South.

whatever sport you like is best. basketball is my cardio twice a week, i force myself to do elliptical for 20 minutes two other days just so i dont burn out from all the ball while im cutting since its more intense than anything else the way i play(imagine ron artest on defense with rip hamilton on offense, not that good but thats how i play, always in someones face and always moving/cutting/setting screens).

it might just be me but i find hockey to be more anarobic than traditional cardio I find im fighting my lactic acid system more than the CV system when i play hockey..

with all the eqipnment and shit it kicks your ass (hockey) I played on friday, by 3rd period I felt like I was being held down by the weight of the equipment...summer league starts in 2 weeks...woohoo

false sex>*

I used to play roller hockey, haven't played in years. probably slow and clumsy as hell now.

C4 it might just be me but i find hockey to be more anarobic than traditional cardio I find im fighting my lactic acid system more than the CV system when i play hockey.. You don't go hard enough when you are on the ice then. Let's be honest, you're an Australian, you don't know anything about hockey.

C4 it might just be me but i find hockey to be more anarobic than traditional cardio I find im fighting my lactic acid system more than the CV system when i play hockey.. it's both...just like many sports its a mix of all 3 systems

Shaolin_sword36 yeah shinny, basically helmet, gloves, and shins Why did this make me crack up... shinny The name is derived from the Irish game shinty. Shinny hockey, a primarily Canadian term, is usually called Scrimmage or Pick-up Hockey in the United States. Has nothing to do with your shins haha...

DCCapen running> exactly...and don't edit that

DCCapen running> I thought the criteria was "fun". I'd rather shave my asshair with a lawnmower blade than run for pleasure.

DCCapen Thats because you suck at it. Much the same way that someone who plays hockey and sucks is going to hate getting pummled

Hockey = best and funnest cardio

eating before bed

eating before bed

we were at ruby tuesdays and this girl says she wants the salad because "its too late for the carbs in pasta; i dont want to get gain fat" do people store calories differently depending on when you eat them? ex: if i eat dinner at 8pm and my friend eats at 11pm every night and we both go to sleep at 11:30pm, is he going to gain more fat? i argued that it didnt matter but i really didnt have any science to back it up, and it was interesting that i didnt know so i just argued what i thought...so whats the deal?

yeah but like her friend was arguing that the carbs are stored as fat overnight...and i said fat loss depended more on total number of calories

when you sleep you burn A LOT less calories than when you are awake. so if you eat a lot, then go to bed.. the chances increase greatly of your food being turned to fat instead of being used to fuel your body.

Moonwalker when you sleep you burn A LOT less calories than when you are awake. so if you eat a lot, then go to bed.. the chances increase greatly of your food being turned to fat instead of being used to fuel your body. but if you expend 3000 cals a day, and eat 3000 every night before bed, you are saying you would gain weight more than someone who eats the 3000 cals in the morning or at lunch?

size18boarder but if you expend 3000 cals a day, and eat 3000 every night before bed, you are saying you would gain weight more than someone who eats the 3000 cals in the morning or at lunch? no, its the same

can we get someone respected in here to clean this up ceaze? christophers?

holy fuck, people. thermodynamics are thermodynamics. if you both eat the same number of cals, it doesn't matter what time you consume. that girl was an idiot.

Werdna holy fuck, people. thermodynamics are thermodynamics. if you both eat the same number of cals, it doesn't matter what time you consume. that girl was an idiot. .

Moonwalker when you sleep you burn A LOT less calories than when you are awake. so if you eat a lot, then go to bed.. the chances increase greatly of your food being turned to fat instead of being used to fuel your body. stop posting

i usually have a protein/carb mix meal before i go to bed

i've always had my biggest meal before bed. even when cutting

ff cottage cheese and protein shake before bed = win

Meh. It's not going to make a huge difference unless you're binging before bed, which is what a lot of people do. People who lose weight by not eating before bed, lose because they are generally the type to starve all day and pig out at night; therefore when they set a limit, they lose weight because they are cutting back on calories.

i usually have a shake or steak before bed so i keep protein in my system all day.

i eat my fish oil and cottage cheese + whey before bed every night.

Q: Is it really true that calories eaten at night are more easily stored as fat, or that I shouldn't eat anything after 6pm if I want to lose weight? A: This is another one of those common ideas and the answer is that it depends. A lot of diet authors give the 6pm (or even 4 pm) rule for weight loss without ever really explaining why. In my mind, this is just a simple trick to get people to eat less, which of course causes them to lose weight (pretty simple trick too - get people to eat less and they lose weight. Wow!) The common reason given is that since you're less active at night, the calories are more likely to be stored as fat. Other authors have commented that insulin resistance is higher in the evening and eating carbs will more likely be stored as fat. But is it true? Again, it depends. Now, if eating a big meal at night (which is quite common in the US) causes you to eat more calories than normal, of course you will gain fat from it. But it's not from eating it at night, it's from eating too much overall (the same thing would happen if you ate too much earlier in the day too). That is, it still comes down to calories. But, overall, assuming the same daily caloric intake, there's no real reason to assume that eating a larger meal at night compared to in the morning will lead to more being stored as fat. Think about it this way. Say you're the same person from the previous question eating 2000 calories per day. If you eat more of your calories at night, that means that you're eating less earlier in the day. So even if you did store more of those calories eaten at night, your body would be mobilizing more stored fuel earlier in the day when you were eating less. End result: no difference. As a side note, one study of dieting and exercising women found that eating more calories at night caused less muscle loss, but no difference in fat loss. Presumably more nutrients were available during the night to avoid muscle breakdown. The women who ate more in the morning did lose more total weight, but the entire difference was because they lost more muscle. Basically, the old bodybuilder idea that you should eat fewer calories at night appears to be counterproductive to keeping muscle on a diet. What really matters in the big scheme of things for weight and fat loss is total calories in versus total calories out. But assuming you eat the same number of calories, whether you eat more of them earlier in the day, or more of them later in the day, it doesn't seem to matter. In fact, eating a larger meal at dinner (or a small bedtime snack) may spare more muscle. The only way eating a lot at night will make you fat is if it causes you to eat more overall. by Lyle McDonald, CSCS

eating before bed

a couple new pics

a couple new pics

I guess I'll add some more since arms just keep on exploding and I don't even train them anymore. Weight 229 today and getting fat. Lower back has some rolls hanging over my shorts, no pics. Continuous bulk until 250, test E cycle starts in 2 months.

Nice. Wish I had some test E You doing test only or you going to throw in some dbol as well? Hey, aren't you on S1 right now? How's that going?

Anyone ever tell you look like Brett Favre? Looking good.

GilgaMesH Nice. Wish I had some test E You doing test only or you going to throw in some dbol as well? Hey, aren't you on S1 right now? How's that going? put on 10 lbs so far, nothing great.. hope to maintain half of it. Still have one bottle left (3 bottle cycle). Not doing orals or anything else with the test, just a straight test cycle

Draco Anyone ever tell you look like Brett Favre? Looking good. no but that's a good thing, farve gets all the woman

lookin good

holy farmers tan lookin swole brudda

nice

aenz holy farmers tan lookin swole brudda I was expecting that. Work in the sun all day and HAVE to wear a shirt.

get some proviron

throughout the whole cycle? is 1 tab enough?

this makes me depressed....

looking great man! you will be a monster at 250! I would concentrate on the traps and upper chest, you seem swole there, but not as swole as the rest of ya!

IT'S THE ANGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! lc traps are actually one of my strongest points. It's hard to get a good shot in beacause the camera basically has to be above me

steveo, what does ur routine look like....with exercises if possible... how many cal's are u taking in daily?

deznutz steveo, what does ur routine look like....with exercises if possible... how many cal's are u taking in daily? I just started chris' routine, was doing a simple 5 day split for the last 2 years. ~8000 calories

Arms look amazing. I'm kinda suprised though that your lats arent bigger. They seem disproportionately small.

therealdeal Arms look amazing. I'm kinda suprised though that your lats arent bigger. They seem disproportionately small. I can't do that pose right, been working on it old pic of a pose I can do halfway decent

Broly.

damn i hate my tiny triceps

[QUOTE=SteveO]throughout the whole cycle? is 1 tab enough?[/QUOTE most people would say take 50mgs, but I found proviron to be rockin and rollin at 100mg's a day.

SteveO I can't do that pose right, been working on it old pic of a pose I can do halfway decent Even so though, from the front, on that first pic, they don't look as developed as some other parts of your body. Its probably less that your lats arent huge while the rest of you is. Youre still looking pretty damn decent all around though.

Biggest improvement are the arms, no doubt about it. Any leg pics?

awesome gains do you have a guess at your bf% you don't look like you have a lot

why the recommendation of proviron??

a couple new pics

Adding weight each week

Adding weight each week

Example --- if someone is benching 3 sets of 5 reps each, but fails on the 3rd rep on the last set, should he use lighter weight? If the answer is to not use lighter weight, should he still up his weight 5 pounds the next week?

Socrates Example --- if someone is benching 3 sets of 5 reps each, but fails on the 3rd rep on the last set, should he use lighter weight? If the answer is to not use lighter weight, should he still up his weight 5 pounds the next week? No he should keep the same weight and when he can get up taht last rep by himself move up the weight a bit

Adding weight each week

Things that make you go... what the hell?

Things that make you go... what the hell?

I was doing military press on the smith machine today. I'm 10 seconds into a rest between sets. two relative gym noobs come over, take two plates off my bar. I'm sitting at the machine. There are spare weights on the side of the machine, but they were 3 feet away and toward the ground. The bar on the smith press was about 5 1/2 feet in the air. I was in shock when they took them, like "what the hell just happened?" my reaction went like this: : they were totally oblivious as to what they did. the room was pretty crowded so I didn't feel like making a scene, I just grabbed some other weights and put them on. But, WTF!?

all you had to do was say, im using those

i woulda said, hey, i was using that

you pussyed out

he was on the other end of the weight room by the time I realized he had take MY weights...

WTF?! Go back and slam a barbell thru his chest and use him as the weight next time. Animal Pak, motherfucker!

Fabian Go back and slam a barbell thru his chest and use him as the weight next time.

last weekend i was using the cable curls and some old man came and started using it when i was about 4 feet away...i told him i am using it and eh goes"what do you own this place" pissed me off so i told him not be a fucking dick about it and just use gym courtest and when u see shit laying next to it to ask how many more sets or if u mind working in...he changed my weight and bar height and did not move it back..saw him in their this morning and we exchanged looks...no he is not big just older and not knowing what he is doing..i watched him and he did 1 set of about everything as fast as he could

stupid fuckers, sure am glad i dont work out with dicks like that.

baseball17c last weekend i was using the cable curls and some old man came and started using it when i was about 4 feet away...i told him i am using it and eh goes"what do you own this place" pissed me off so i told him not be a fucking dick about it and just use gym courtest and when u see shit laying next to it to ask how many more sets or if u mind working in...he changed my weight and bar height and did not move it back..saw him in their this morning and we exchanged looks...no he is not big just older and not knowing what he is doing..i watched him and he did 1 set of about everything as fast as he could whats wrong with cutting in?

Shaolin_sword36 whats wrong with cutting in? Glad you don't workout at my gym.

Fabian WTF?! Go back and slam a barbell thru his chest and use him as the weight next time. Animal Pak, motherfucker! damn straight

Things that make you go... what the hell?

trying to gain weight???

trying to gain weight???

I basically need between 4500 and 5000 calories per day to gain weight. I don't want to be eating like 5 meals a day. What would be the easiest way of eating that many calories??? is there some kind of shake I can make myself to eat a bunch of calories?? thanks

man you are lucky.. i get fat on 2500 even if i exercise. eat some very high caloric foods.. nut butters etc. and im sure there are some really high cal weight gainers.

Muscle Milk Protein Shakes have quite a bit of calories in them. 2 scoops Muscle milk + 2 cups of milk + 2 bananas + lots of oats + 2 scoops of ice cream = win (maybe not the ice cream?)

Socrates Muscle Milk Protein Shakes have quite a bit of calories in them. 2 scoops Muscle milk + 2 cups of milk + 2 bananas + lots of oats + 2 scoops of ice cream = win (maybe not the ice cream?) ice cream quark

maccas

Two of these a day, plus as many regular meals between as possible: (blended, obviously) 1 cup of steel cut oats (preblended before other ingredients are added) 1.5 cups vitamin D milk 3 scoops whey 2 TBSP olive/flax oil + 1-3 ounces of water depending on the desired fluidity of the shake. Comes out to about 1400 calories. 2800 with two shakes Assuming you eat breakfast, a mid-day meal, and something before you go to bed, that's 4500 cals easy.

steel cut oats

What are steel cut oats?

Benjamin What are steel cut oats? http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1555316

do steel cuts oats have a lot of calroies in them?

whats the difference between vitamin D milk and regular milk

Benjamin do steel cuts oats have a lot of calroies in them? 600 calories a cup I believe.

5 meals a day is not bad at all. prepare them before hand and bring them to work or whatever

Benjamin whats the difference between vitamin D milk and regular milk if you want really calorie dense, get half and half. vitamin D milk = whole milk = more calories.

Phlab Two of these a day, plus as many regular meals between as possible: (blended, obviously) 1 cup of steel cut oats (preblended before other ingredients are added) 1.5 cups vitamin D milk 3 scoops whey 2 TBSP olive/flax oil + 1-3 ounces of water depending on the desired fluidity of the shake. Comes out to about 1400 calories. 2800 with two shakes Assuming you eat breakfast, a mid-day meal, and something before you go to bed, that's 4500 cals easy. I made one of these shakes today, and holy crap I could barly drink it. Not the tastiest thing. Do you think I could add suger to make it more drinkable?

Benjamin I made one of these shakes today, and holy crap I could barly drink it. Not the tastiest thing. Do you think I could add suger to make it more drinkable? sure, being that you are bulking, add whatever the hell you want in there. I use peanut butter, graham crackers, bananas, granola bars, whatever is around that i think might taste good. If you want to keep it around 1400 cals each, use less of the oil and try some PB instead, that should help with the taste.

Benjamin I basically need between 4500 and 5000 calories per day to gain weight. I don't want to be eating like 5 meals a day. What would be the easiest way of eating that many calories??? is there some kind of shake I can make myself to eat a bunch of calories?? thanks why dont you want to be eating 5 meals a day? its the easiest way to eat enough food if you have trouble getting it all down in 3.

Benjamin I made one of these shakes today, and holy crap I could barly drink it. Not the tastiest thing. Do you think I could add suger to make it more drinkable? Sure, if you want to. Of course it doesn't taste great, but you get accustomed to it.. Then again, I don't mind the taste of plain oats at all. The way I do it: Pour it into a glass 4 cup measuring cup thing (mine comes out to a little under 3 cups, IIRC) Take a good breath, and start chugging I run out of breath about 3/4 of the way through. Don't breath through your nose at all the entire time, breath through your mouth. That way you won't taste it. Chug the remaining 1/4, then rinse all your shit out. You can either chase it with some OJ, or be a man and savor the bitter, oily aftertaste

trying to gain weight???