Monday, January 13, 2014

Exercises for a powerful Punch?

Exercises for a powerful Punch?


The muscles most dominant for a powerful punch are your delts correct? anyone know any good exercises that would strengthen these muscles to throw devastating jabs? any boxers in here? thanks

superbri007 its mostly pecs. you sure? any second opinions?

superbri007 do chest exercises that are explosive in nature. try some cable work one hand at a time throwing punches. Or, have someone hold a exercise band behind you while your gripping it and throw punches with resistance. You can be creative and make up your own shit. what about shadow boxing with 10-20lb weights? or is that just stupid?

Maybe plyometric pushups? I found single arm pushups tended to improve my jabs.... Where in Toronto do you box?

i want to take a boxing class next year, but its 2 hours a day for only one credit

the best way to practice making your punches stronger... is by actually practicing punching. Make sure you use your hips, and practice the technique over and over.

brolli the best way to practice making your punches stronger... is by actually practicing punching. Make sure you use your hips, and practice the technique over and over. Still, I'm guessing he's asking aside from that....

hip and leg drive.

Grouch hip and leg drive. to big bird

a boxer once told me back is the most important...

how about we just say everything.

Grouch how about we just say everything. yeah. I guess if you work your ass off in the gym and boxing gym, you would become a hard puncher.

grip

bag work. you learn better technique on it, plus it gets you used to punching something hard

The power generated is a series of movements relying on your core. Develop a better one, train hard.

Kickbacks are the most important in developing a powerful punch.

curls! Punch stuff. Keep good form and uhhh.... I remember hearing somewhere before that Bruce Lee didn't want a bigger chest because it slowed down his punches. Does anyone know what I'm talking about? Can anyone elaborate on that?

bruce lee was a pussy Go to a boxing gym, ask them...I throw a shitload of punches 3 times a week in training (normal striking day = 14 rounds, 3 mins each w/15 second breaks...bag work, shadow punching, double end ball and pad work then conditioning), our conditioning consists of total body; everything from strength training, plyo, medicine ball drills (good for explosiveness), tons of rope jumping for leg work....more stuff than I could ever type split up into a month long routine. Asking to have a powerful jab is pretty worthless considering a jab is 80% of the time just a set up punch. With a speed jab you won't use your legs/hips at all, a regular jab you will....speed jabs are 100% for redirection and setting your opponent up, regular jabs won't inflict any kind of knock out power.

Grouch how about we just say everything. fucking for a hard punch, you need total body strength, punching requires alot, but the best way to get a better punch is to hit the punching bag

timberwolf Where in Toronto do you box? i don't actually box, yet at least. although i want to try some lessons this summer and thought it'd be a good idea to check to make sure i'm not missing anything. thanks for all the tips and help guys. i appreciate it. i'm asking for my own curiousity mostly, and because there's a good chance i will be forced into a fight or two over the next couple weeks. I know who they'll be against and really doubt i'd ever lose them. But better safe than sorry. So bottom line just overall strength, especially core, and explosive workouts?

The punch is characteristically very similiar to other movements (such as benching, throwing a shot, baseball, fencing prick, etc.), but what make it different is that is an unloaded movement. Thus, tension has to generated by the body, surprisingly, not in a rapid manner, but displayed at brief intervals using intense muscular contractions. These intrinsic properties categorize the punch as a true speed-strength movement, which incidently lies between 0-20% of one maximum. Since maximal strength (80-100%) and speed-strength are not correlated (different neurological regimes), max strength doesn't effect initial muscular tension or max force when the external resistance is low. Speed-strength thus correlates highly with starting strength (20-40%). Thus, starting-strength which is displayed isometrically against an external resistance, is displayed dynamically in an unloaded movement, but barely (100-500 ms of conscious initiation). I recommend: 1- Training for relative body strength, you don't need hypertrophy. The success of your other regimes depend upon this. 2- Train the appropriate energy systems. Shift that lactate curve to the right (speed-endurance). 3- Train in a relaxed, but heightened state. This will increase your reactionary times as well as your auogenic inhibition (eliminate co-contraction). 4- Train through incorporating different regimes. Use extreme isometrics, SUB-maximal eccentrics, starting strength (20-40%), and maximal speed (0-20%). For example, for starting strength, use suspended chain bench presses with 20-40% of your max for time. For maximal speed, utilize 1-5# DB's, weighted gloves, or mini-bands, in various positions. 5- Continue your DE day. This is acceleration strength (40-60%). Together maximal speed + starting strength + acceleration strength + relative strength = explosive strength. And remember, your punching success depends upon your speed of execution. In order to be fast, you must train fast! #62

Ceaze The punch is characteristically very similiar to other movements (such as benching, throwing a shot, baseball, fencing prick, etc.), but what make it different is that is an unloaded movement. Thus, tension has to generated by the body, surprisingly, not in a rapid manner, but displayed at brief intervals using intense muscular contractions. These intrinsic properties categorize the punch as a true speed-strength movement, which incidently lies between 0-20% of one maximum. Since maximal strength (80-100%) and speed-strength are not correlated (different neurological regimes), max strength doesn't effect initial muscular tension or max force when the external resistance is low. Speed-strength thus correlates highly with starting strength (20-40%). Thus, starting-strength which is displayed isometrically against an external resistance, is displayed dynamically in an unloaded movement, but barely (100-500 ms of conscious initiation). I recommend: 1- Training for relative body strength, you don't need hypertrophy. The success of your other regimes depend upon this. 2- Train the appropriate energy systems. Shift that lactate curve to the right (speed-endurance). 3- Train in a relaxed, but heightened state. This will increase your reactionary times as well as your auogenic inhibition (eliminate co-contraction). 4- Train through incorporating different regimes. Use extreme isometrics, SUB-maximal eccentrics, starting strength (20-40%), and maximal speed (0-20%). For example, for starting strength, use suspended chain bench presses with 20-40% of your max for time. For maximal speed, utilize 1-5# DB's, weighted gloves, or mini-bands, in various positions. 5- Continue your DE day. This is acceleration strength (40-60%). Together maximal speed + starting strength + acceleration strength + relative strength = explosive strength. And remember, your punching success depends upon your speed of execution. In order to be fast, you must train fast! #62 i was just gonna tell him to squat, but i think your answer was better.

joy division bruce lee was a pussy Go to a boxing gym, ask them...I throw a shitload of punches 3 times a week in training (normal striking day = 14 rounds, 3 mins each w/15 second breaks...bag work, shadow punching, double end ball and pad work then conditioning), our conditioning consists of total body; everything from strength training, plyo, medicine ball drills (good for explosiveness), tons of rope jumping for leg work....more stuff than I could ever type split up into a month long routine. Asking to have a powerful jab is pretty worthless considering a jab is 80% of the time just a set up punch. With a speed jab you won't use your legs/hips at all, a regular jab you will....speed jabs are 100% for redirection and setting your opponent up, regular jabs won't inflict any kind of knock out power. work on powerfull crosses and hooks.... all in the hips!!




Exercises for a powerful Punch?

fuck getting hurt-

fuck getting hurt-


Man, I'm dying here... I broke my wrist in two places snowboarding at the end of Febuary, and I can't do shit for my upper body! I've been doing legs twice a week and some variation of abs everyday, but it's not enough!! I can't work out UB for 2 more weeks, and then it's light weight... My co-worker, an occupational therapist (I work in physical therapy), said it'd be another 3 months before I get back to where I was. Bullshit, I'm making it 2 months... As stated, FUCK getting hurt. Cliffs: me whining. Oh, BTW, I've never broken anything in my life since this...

yea i snowboard every week. really sucks boarding on lifting days, especially when you take a hard fall. like i did when tried jibbing a volkswagen last week.

I know how you feel as I type this with one hand.

I just take it easy and ride like a pussy

Leb_CRX I just take it easy and ride like a pussy yea but the seasons almost over go hard or go... lift

tize i broke my shit snowboarding in 7th grade, havent been back since. Yeah, I don't plan on going again- I live in CO, but it took me 22 years to try it, I think I can live without it!

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fuck getting hurt-

Where to stock up on protein in Toronto?

Where to stock up on protein in Toronto?


Which is that place with the cheap 10 lb bags?

bump

the chicken market

i go to snd

http://www.sndcanada.com

trueproteincanada.com $270 shipped for 50lb of WPC80 or you can try SNDcanada for small orders. SupplementsCanada is a little cheaper if you order $200+






































Where to stock up on protein in Toronto?

link me to a guideline for perfect deadlift form

link me to a guideline for perfect deadlift form


I think I'm doing it right.....?

i wanna know too. im sure i have shit form.

http://forums.offtopic.com/search.php?searchid=3680718

intro to powerlifting.wmv

cunninglinguist intro to powerlifting.wmv thats a damn good vid and read the damn archives noobasaurs

http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1228847

d'oh I forgot to check the archives. I will now go slam my fingers in a car door a few times in punishment.

cunninglinguist intro to powerlifting.wmv link to said vid

http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BDeadlift.html

giblit http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BDeadlift.html That is a highly conservative DL. Most PLers do not get their hips that low.

giblit http://www.exrx.net/WeightExercises/...BDeadlift.html this site was the original form I was following.

ACURA TL-S That is a highly conservative DL. Most PLers do not get their hips that low. this guy works out at my gym, hes a PLr but he looks really bad ass, real lean. anyways we were questioning DL form and we asked him and he was like, well i do mine like this, he steps up, traditional and put his hips lower than the dude on exrx, his back was almost perendicular with the ground, and threw up like 5 reps of 315 like nothing. no warm up or anything, he said he hardly does DLs anymore either.

then I doubt he's a PLer

ryazbeck this guy works out at my gym, hes a PLr but he looks really bad ass, real lean. anyways we were questioning DL form and we asked him and he was like, well i do mine like this, he steps up, traditional and put his hips lower than the dude on exrx, his back was almost perendicular with the ground, and threw up like 5 reps of 315 like nothing. no warm up or anything, he said he hardly does DLs anymore either. I was like then I read 315 and I was like . Most PLers I have seen almost SL the lift.

ryazbeck this guy works out at my gym, hes a PLr but he looks really bad ass, real lean. anyways we were questioning DL form and we asked him and he was like, well i do mine like this, he steps up, traditional and put his hips lower than the dude on exrx, his back was almost perendicular with the ground, and threw up like 5 reps of 315 like nothing. no warm up or anything, he said he hardly does DLs anymore either. I can do that... not really impressive...

christophers um.. 315 is not a high weight.. i can do 315 with 1 hand jennifer maile deadlifts 405 @ 103 lb's @ 16 years old.. hips too low = wasted energy I am going to try 315 with one hand for shits and giggles on my next DL day. I don't know if my panzy grip will hold.

ACURA TL-S I am going to try 315 with one hand for shits and giggles on my next DL day. I don't know if my panzy grip will hold. i may try this one monday... ME 1 hand DL
















link me to a guideline for perfect deadlift form

I fucked my back up today going for a new PR doing deadlifts

I fucked my back up today going for a new PR doing deadlifts


Any tips for faster recovery? Rest Ice Compression Elevation ? It was going good until I heard a big fucking CRAACK.

Rest is probably you best. Just take it easy and don't try to train again too early.

How do you make (reasonably) sure that this doesn't happen when doing deadlifts? Is there a golden rule of "make sure you can rep weight x a minimum of y times before trying to lift x + zkg!", ie "don't try 115kg before you can rep 110 10 times without problems!" ?

MrNamjama How do you make (reasonably) sure that this doesn't happen when doing deadlifts? Is there a golden rule of "make sure you can rep weight x a minimum of y times before trying to lift x + zkg!", ie "don't try 115kg before you can rep 110 10 times without problems!" ? No gym for home..... Seriously, there's a thread about squats and DL's. As long as you maintain good form, you should be alright.

If you don't complete the lift, move down in weight.

ice, then heat. try some kind of rub. i strained my back on DL's yesterday, but it's not so bad today. don't up the weights too much.

Ilyusha If you don't complete the lift, move down in weight. I completed it, its just my back is rocked right now. I know its going to be hurting tomorrow.

superbri007 @ user text I didn't recognize you for a bit just cause i didn't see the old AV Why hallo thar.. dude, happy extremely belated birthday.

it took me a while to get back into drinking after I turned 21.. I drink a few times a month now at clubs and lounges and such. My 21st birthday was the greatest thing to ever happen to me.. ever.

doubt it maybe in ten years, and by prescription only

Yea... gene therapy isn't exactly safe right now. Quite a few subjects have died on stuff we know far more about than the myostatin gene.

You heard a loud crack? Like bone cracking?

I think we can safely rule out a broken spine. Probably just some strained muscles and the popping was probably bursa sacs.

Take it easy for a few days. I would recommend eating a lot of bananas or mushrooms. Eat something with a lot of potassium.

depends on type of pain, I would say rest and some aniinflammatorys. How do use compression on a back?

I gave up deadlifting. Chance of injury is too high. I'll do it once in a blue moon, but it is not part of my routine now.


















I fucked my back up today going for a new PR doing deadlifts

metabolism question

metabolism question


when you change your diet (amount of food you intake basically), how long does it take your metabolism to adjust? ie. get used to the new amount of food intake and disappear that hungry feeling, because i used to overeat, and now that i've lowered it to the amount i should be eating i get hungry

How many calories are you getting a day and what's your bodyweight

about 2300 and i'm 180lbs

learn to like feeling hungry. when i wanted to lose weight i dropped my cals to prolly 1500 or lower a day (too low). i was always hungry and i just liked it. i didnt really know what i was doing, but i lost 30lbs in a 3-4 months.

i dont know too much, but i know enough to know thats not a good method. you must've lost a lot of muscle i started dropping my cals gradually and coupled it with excersise (a bit of cardio and weights). i've got some upper body fat i wanna get rid of (see: man tits)

ChillerTwist i dont know too much, but i know enough to know thats not a good method. you must've lost a lot of muscle i started dropping my cals gradually and coupled it with excersise (a bit of cardio and weights). i've got some upper body fat i wanna get rid of (see: man tits) 30lbs in 3-4 months is pretty normal actually

try some hoodia (http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1666) or nicotine (gum or patches). If you want major appetite suppression then get ahold of some bromocriptine.

nathanbx 30lbs in 3-4 months is pretty normal actually I have lost 20 in two with minimal muscle loss.

BTW, you just have to wait for your stomach to shrink. Your metabolism doesn't have as much to do with the hungry feeling as the stretch receptors in your stomach. You will get used to it. It is weird, when I cut and I eat I feel fat, when I bulk and I don't eat I feel skinny.

Ceaze try some hoodia (http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1666) or nicotine (gum or patches). If you want major appetite suppression then get ahold of some bromocriptine. yeah hoodia works really good as long as you take it with a full glass of water

awesome! thanks for all the replies guys, they've been very helpful. i will look into those products if it becomes unbearable, but i'd rather let nature take its course




























metabolism question

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