my arms growing much faster than chest and shoulders?

my arms growing much faster than chest and shoulders?

my arms are a good size to where i like it. my chest and shoulder are strong but lack some size. i always go heavy follow up with a superset usually. what do i need to do now to get to that next step and get my chest and shoulder development into high gear? do i need to change up my routine and maybe go light for a few weeks?

work your arms less and your shoulders more /thread

UncleJohn work your arms less and your shoulders more /thread

im the same way, my arms grow faster.

I'm in the opposite boat, my shoulders have always grew faster than my arms, kinda frustrating

its normal for arms to grow faster when you're starting out

swing and a miss

Socrates The chest is a much bigger muscle group than the arms. It would naturally take longer for a much bigger muscle group to grow. This doesn't make sense to me, so your forearms and calves should grow alot quicker than your quads and gluts?

consider yourself lucky...I think it looks better to have large arms, unlike me, my arms are small compared to everything else.

nathanbx I'm in the opposite boat, my shoulders have always grew faster than my arms, kinda frustrating Same....i love my shoulders

arms grow faster than shoulders for me... my shoulders won't budge. upped set's recently and i think its helping. either way, unless it is an extreme case, i dont know if i would ever work my arms less even though they grow faster. i'd take advantage of the muscle gain and have the biggest arms ever rather than just have some proportion.

illmaticnyc my arms are a good size to where i like it. my chest and shoulder are strong but lack some size. i always go heavy follow up with a superset usually. what do i need to do now to get to that next step and get my chest and shoulder development into high gear? do i need to change up my routine and maybe go light for a few weeks? i am the opposite

my arms growing much faster than chest and shoulders?

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Calorie calculator

http://www.primusweb.com/cgi-bin/fpc/actcalc.pl put in your weight and duration of activity and it caclulates how many calories burned. My question is how accurate would u guys say it is? Obviously some things are fairly vague but somethings are pretty exact (like running at x mph for ex)

Calorie calculator

Calorie calculator

Book Suggestion?

Book Suggestion?

Anyone know some decent F&N related reading? I am also looking for a decent book or two about AAS, with actual information not just bullshit myths and speculation. The topic interests me and I have some money on a borders gift card.

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The Black Book of Training Secrets by Christian Thibadeau Supertraining by Mel Siff Strength and Power in Sport The Science and Practice of Strength Training by Zatsiorsky

Book Suggestion?

some max attemtp vid clips and pics *NWS*

some max attemtp vid clips and pics *NWS*

did a lecture today on PLing for my class, and had me and my co-facilitators max out in class. make sure you have a divx codec to play these clips. 405 squat by my friend Jason. sure it's not textbook perfect, but still a strong guy nonetheless:http://bboywind.com/jason%20squat.avi 315 bench by me. got stapled by 335 it's pathetic that i'm repping 285 but can't max 335 bench.http://bboywind.com/edbench.avi 205 x 6 seated military press:ibcrosseyed: http://bboywind.com/edmilitary.avi and lastly...NWS pic of me in briefs

leave your damn head on the bench preemo

jesus you're ripped

christophers jason needs to: 1) have one of you watch him from the side, and call depth when he hits it. he didn't hit depth, atleast from that angle 2) place the bar lower, if hes squatting with that stance the bar should be placed lower. all around he looks loose, too, you can tell his shoulder blades arent retracted and he chest isn't up lol same exact words of advice i would give to him after watching the clip

You're a strong dude..

BTW, i need some advice on my freakin lockout. during my attempt today, my elbows started shaking, thats a first for me. and also lockout has been my sticking point lately. i've tried 3 & 4 board presses, DE with 60% band tension, and tricep lockouts, and 335 is still eluding me

PreemO BTW, i need some advice on my freakin lockout. during my attempt today, my elbows started shaking, thats a first for me. and also lockout has been my sticking point lately. i've tried 3 & 4 board presses, DE with 60% band tension, and tricep lockouts, and 335 is still eluding me Slow cheat negatives with 335?

look at what my spotter does at 5 secs when i'm doing my set

PreemO BTW, i need some advice on my freakin lockout. during my attempt today, my elbows started shaking, thats a first for me. and also lockout has been my sticking point lately. i've tried 3 & 4 board presses, DE with 60% band tension, and tricep lockouts, and 335 is still eluding me leave your head down, and learn to drive with your feet more, some arch is needed when going full bore. Drive through the weight

PurEvl leave your head down, and learn to drive with your feet more, some arch is needed when going full bore. Drive through the weight Check out this artice, Preemo: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do...70881&pageNo=0

yeah i used to have a better arch but my lower back is still an issue

the asian chick is yawning as you bench

Also, maybe you should widen your grip a bit..

AngryGuy the asian chick is yawning as you bench she looks like shes got something wrong with her ear or something. speaking of which, the class is like 75% wimmen. and quite a good amount of hotties too

PreemO she looks like shes got something wrong with her ear or something. speaking of which, the class is like 75% wimmen. and quite a good amount of hotties too It'd be funny if she told you to move over and proceeded to rep 400. what class is it?

although impressive, i think the prob is more at the beginning of the bench.. you didnt have a clean start, so that may have caused the arm wobble. like pur said, drive through it. start controlled then blast, not the other way also should your arms be that angled? id think a bit more in line with shoulders, but im not sure about that.. :/

AngryGuy It'd be funny if she told you to move over and proceeded to rep 400. what class is it? heh funny you ask. at Cal we have a program called Decal, which stands for democratic education at Cal, and basically undergraduates can teach interest-specific classes to other undergrads for a non-letter grades. In the squat vid clip, the other two guys you see including myself are facilitators of the course. i'm the head facilitator (instructor). i also named the course after this forum: Fitness & Nutrition. I figure if i have an opportunity pass on the knowledge of what I've acquired throught my experience, this forum, my classes, and help them out, i should make the most of it. everytime i hit the gym i see guys who looked like me when i first started lifting, and it's rewarding for me to duplicate my results in another individual. i taught this class last semester which was really fun. but this semester, for one reason or another, there's such a disparity in male:female enrollment its krazy.

MCB: molecular and cellular biology

Bio major, eh? Me too.. not pre-med though..

yup hopefully early next year

holy. fucking. shit. are you natural?

transistor holy. fucking. shit. are you natural? yes. and to those who believe otherwise, if i was on gear, i'd be MUCH bigger. i'm pretty lucky to have a small waist and joints, allowing for greater taper for all my muscle groups. its all an illusion. proof? current stats: 5'6.5" ( ), 152lbs

Damn, PreemO. What did you start out at? How long did it take you to progress to where you are today?

started at 110lbs, 3.5 years experience now. this should provide some inspiration to all the lightweights who label themselves as "hardgainers": you can never eat enough. and never use your "fast metabolism" as an excuse for not being able to gain weight.

PreemO started at 110lbs, 3.5 years experience now. this should provide some inspiration to all the lightweights who label themselves as "hardgainers":[img]http://uploads.offtopic.com/files/befored3.jpg[img] you can never eat enough. and never use your "fast metabolism" as an excuse for not being able to gain weight. Very awesome.

some max attemtp vid clips and pics *NWS*

Greatest Protein Shake Ever

Greatest Protein Shake Ever

On a cheat day, so what the hell. - low fat cookies & cream ice cream - skim milk - 1 serving of peanut butter - 2 scoops of whey = The hotness.

if its on my cheat day i'd use regular icecream not low fat. but yea, i always use pb, icecream and whey to make shakes when i feel like a treat

i hate pb in my shake

And why can you only have that on a cheat day? Shit, while cutting I'd add a cup of oats to that

that doesnt sound too bad.

3 scoops vanilla ice cream 50g strawberry flavoured whey banana enough 2% milk to fill the rest = Hotness of the sun

eddscat And why can you only have that on a cheat day? Shit, while cutting I'd add a cup of oats to that shadowx On a cheat day, so what the hell. - low fat cookies & cream ice cream - skim milk - 1 serving of peanut butter - 2 scoops of whey = The hotness. .

Zaffir . Why I eat donuts while cutting.

interesting mix

I always add peanut butter when I have a blender. I will have to try it with some ice cream.

Greatest Protein Shake Ever

optimum multi is a 2x a day pill?

optimum multi is a 2x a day pill?

i've been taking it for 2 years & never realized it says a serving is 2 pills

optimum multi is a 2x a day pill?

optimum multi is a 2x a day pill?

Hammer curls to build "muscle under the bi"

Hammer curls to build "muscle under the bi"

so using db's and doing hammer curls there is a muscle that wil give a larger overall appearence to the bi? is this correct or in the area?

do deadlifts

The muscle under the bi is the coracobrachialis, given its name because of its proximal insertion at the coracoid process of the scapular. Its role is flexion of the arm, it has some week adducting abilities also. I don't see any real reason that hammer curls would target this muscle. Possibly he could also meen the Brachilalis, it is responsible for flexion of the elbow. Perhaps he thinks that this muscle acts to cancel the forearm supination caused by biceps but it is unaffected by any pronation/supination of the forearm

I do hammer curls.

i know what your tryin to say. hammer curls and especially overhand curls will fill you out like i think you want.

willg133 do deadlifts



edd91 The muscle under the bi is the coracobrachialis, given its name because of its proximal insertion at the coracoid process of the scapular. Its role is flexion of the arm, it has some week adducting abilities also. I don't see any real reason that hammer curls would target this muscle. Possibly he could also meen the Brachilalis, it is responsible for flexion of the elbow. Perhaps he thinks that this muscle acts to cancel the forearm supination caused by biceps but it is unaffected by any pronation/supination of the forearm Damn you comparative anatomy and vert phys, I should not understand this.

edd91 The muscle under the bi is the coracobrachialis, given its name because of its proximal insertion at the coracoid process of the scapular. Its role is flexion of the arm, it has some week adducting abilities also. I don't see any real reason that hammer curls would target this muscle. Possibly he could also meen the Brachilalis, it is responsible for flexion of the elbow. Perhaps he thinks that this muscle acts to cancel the forearm supination caused by biceps but it is unaffected by any pronation/supination of the forearm I understand this just fine, but think you're a tool for using this type of language considering most people like the "POSTER" get 0 out of it.

Copy N Paste nugga

Mystery Guest Copy N Paste nugga I didn't copy/paste shit

yea i find it hard to believe any medical text online would say "week" instead of "weak."

i do a lot of hammer curls. is that why i have hotdog biseps?

Grouch i do a lot of hammer curls. is that why i have hotdog biseps? yeah, it is. btw your biseps are week

edd91 I didn't copy/paste shit Well if it wasn't then take it as a compliment

dank yeah, it is. btw your biseps are week your spelling is weak

edd91 The muscle under the bi is the coracobrachialis, given its name because of its proximal insertion at the coracoid process of the scapular. Its role is flexion of the arm, it has some week adducting abilities also. I don't see any real reason that hammer curls would target this muscle. Possibly he could also meen the Brachilalis, it is responsible for flexion of the elbow. Perhaps he thinks that this muscle acts to cancel the forearm supination caused by biceps but it is unaffected by any pronation/supination of the forearm Actually the muscle known as Biceps Brachii is the superfical muscle of the humerus and it is able to flex when the forearm is supine (when the palm of your hand faces up). Brachialis is the major forearm flexor (bends arm at elbow) and is deep to the Biceps Brachii. Brachialis would therefore be used more appropriately when the forearm is not in the supine position, and thus hammer curls would target Brachialis (the bigger of the two muscles) to a greater extent.

Gutrat your spelling is weak your sarcasm detector is busted

cunninglinguist your sarcasm detector is busted or the batteries could be low.

edd91 The muscle under the bi is the coracobrachialis, given its name because of its proximal insertion at the coracoid process of the scapular. Its role is flexion of the arm, it has some week adducting abilities also. I don't see any real reason that hammer curls would target this muscle. Possibly he could also meen the Brachilalis, it is responsible for flexion of the elbow. Perhaps he thinks that this muscle acts to cancel the forearm supination caused by biceps but it is unaffected by any pronation/supination of the forearm ugh, yeah...we get it..but for someone who writes that much shit, your spelling of simple words sucks ass. you're not impressing anyone

Dr. Feel Good Actually the muscle known as Biceps Brachii is the superfical muscle of the humerus and it is able to flex when the forearm is supine (when the palm of your hand faces up). Brachialis is the major forearm flexor (bends arm at elbow) and is deep to the Biceps Brachii. Brachialis would therefore be used more appropriately when the forearm is not in the supine position, and thus hammer curls would target Brachialis (the bigger of the two muscles) to a greater extent. I disagree, in both flexion with supination of forearm and semi-pronation, the Brachialis is equally recruited, just the biceps arent recruited with supination. It is inserted at the ulna which hardly moves in supination And if you guys dont like my posts, then ok I won't answer people any more

dank yeah, it is. btw your biseps are week They are still prolly bigger than yours.

tize I like em, don't listen to mike he is just a jealous little bitch mm hmm

edd91 The muscle under the bi is the coracobrachialis, given its name because of its proximal insertion at the coracoid process of the scapular. Its role is flexion of the arm, it has some week adducting abilities also. I don't see any real reason that hammer curls would target this muscle. Possibly he could also meen the Brachilalis, it is responsible for flexion of the elbow. Perhaps he thinks that this muscle acts to cancel the forearm supination caused by biceps but it is unaffected by any pronation/supination of the forearm nice

Hammer curls to build "muscle under the bi"