found an old picture of me :wtc:

found an old picture of me :wtc:

Damn I was huge(FAT). I went form 240 to 180, from there I hovered around 185-190 for a while. I've been bulking and I'm at 200 right now. I decided I'm at a good size so I'm going to try and get to about 8-10% bf @ 190. I would try and get larger but with my future career ahead of me, I'm not going to be able to maintain a large size. This was me, about is July 2002 - 240 lbs and this is me recently at 185lbs This is me now at 200lbs, cold yes yes, the angle is odd on the last one. Its not that flattering taking a front shot Maybe I'll post again when I get to around 10% bf Now-a-days I workout 5-6 times a week. Couple weeks ago did a 7 mile run. I've gone through military training, I have a new girlfriend/fiancee. Sure beats sitting around eating cheezits and moutain dew all day. in other news, I put up 100lb DB's on incline today for the first time, 8 times

no chest no care. pics! Looking great though! Looks like a new person.

Socrates no chest no care. pics! Looking great though! Looks like a new person. My chest is the best part of me, except for the fatty lower pec Yes, I know I am teh suck at posing. I was just goofing around with my fiancee when these pics were taken - a few weeks ago.

worst chest shot, redo that shit yo

lol yeah horrible chest shot

ryazbeck worst chest shot, redo that shit yo show me a proper pose, and maybe I'll do it

ManinCamo show me a proper pose, and maybe I'll do it Sorry, I figured you would figure out on your own that a good chest show is NOT having your hands in front of your chest. Also, unless your boobs droop down like that, don't push your bicep up with it.

Socrates Sorry, I figured you would figure out on your own that a good chest show is NOT having your hands in front of your chest. Also, unless your boobs droop down like that, don't push your bicep up with it. I'll get on that pic in a few minutes don't laugh at the fat!

ManinCamo I'll get on that pic in a few minutes don't laugh at the fat! Trust me, if you've seen my picture, you would know I have no room to laugh at anyone.

Good stuff.

ManinCamo show me a proper pose, and maybe I'll do it anyposethatbicepsdontblockthechest.jpg

yea, my traps need some work suggestions? comments?

240, that top pic is about as fat as I got went form wearing XL shirts to mediums and from 36" pants to 30-32" pants

Mike McDermott congrats nice bod on her thanks and she has a smokin body, visible abs, nice muscle tone. She ran XC in high school, but doesn't run anymore due to two knee surgeries She still maintains her weight with ease AND her mom is attractive and looks younger than she really is = my fiancee will maintain the hotness

tize link for nonblues? I did that on purpose i posted a pic of her in the main forum a week or two ago.

I dunno, you tell me. Two blondes walk into a bar... You would have thought at least one of them would have seen it. ok, no not terribly funny. We just get along very well.

tize i smiled so how long you think until she cheats on ya? you know they all do that DIAF hopefully never

I'm off to bed. I await broly responses when I awake

good shit. keep it up

tize id bone her; you must be funny or something

okay, hmm, you got good arms, but you could definately work those delts and your chest. and i dunno about your lats but i bet they are lacking like your shoulders. arent you going into the air force soon? do you have time to do some bulking?

Much improved.

someone get this man some decline presses! chest looks weird but arms look good to me, not that I know shit or have any room to comment.

1. you REALLY need to learn how to pose better 2. Say "fat" not "huge", huge imply big. 3. Build more muscle. 4. you fiancee has a nice ass 5. good work

Maestro Nobones someone get this man some decline presses! chest looks weird but arms look good to me, not that I know shit or have any room to comment. I do decline just as much as flat and incline, with similar weight. what else can I do besides decline press and decline butterfly to target my lower pecs? Even when I was 180 I still had gyno type fat. My chest really is my strong point, in person at least.

found an old picture of me :wtc:

Help with my routine

Help with my routine

This is what I do now. What can I add I have been doing this workout since November. Thanks. I don't know what other information you need. I am 5'6 -5'7 122 -125LBS Also I do cardio occaisionally because I am not trying to lose weight. Chest & Tri's Flat bench benchpress 3 x 10 Incline Benchpress 3 x 10 Decline Benchpress 3 x 10 Flys 3 x 10 Pulldowns two different kinds 3 x 10 Kickbacks 3 sets as many as I can do Back and Biceps Seated rows 3 x 10 Preacher Curls 3 x 10 or crazy 8's lat Pulldowns 3 x 10 Dumbells 3 x 10 reverse flys 3 x 10 Legs and Shoulders Squats 3 x 10 Leg Press 3 x 10 Calve presses 3 sets as many as I can do 2 others I am blanking on their names Shoulder raises 3 x 10 Shoulder Press 3 x 10 Shrugs 3 sets of as many as I can do Thanks

Joe Canada Chest and Tri Flat bench benchpress Incline Benchpress or Decline Benchpress Flys French Press Back and Biceps (might as well add abs) Deadlift BB rows lat Pulldowns Preacher Curls or Hammercurls crunches leg raises Legs and Shoulders Squats Calve presses 3 sets as many as I can do Leg Curls Leg Extensions DB shoulder presses Upright Rows Side Raises Shrugs 3 sets of as many as I can do fixed in general imho 10-8-8-6 > 3 x 10

FredBull fixed in general imho 10-8-8-6 > 3 x 10 Thanks, I will switch to the 10-8-8-6

When I said I do cardio occaisionally it is very seldom.

Joe Canada When I said I do cardio occaisionally it is very seldom. Drop it all together. For a long, long time.

tize team no-cardio! Sadly, I do cardio now..

any help from the daytimers?

Joe Canada This is what I do now. What can I add I have been doing this workout since November. Thanks. I don't know what other information you need. I am 5'6 -5'7 122 -125LBS Also I do cardio occaisionally because I am not trying to lose weight. Chest & Tri's Flat bench benchpress 3 x 10 Incline Benchpress 3 x 10 Decline Benchpress 3 x 10 Flys 3 x 10 Pulldowns two different kinds 3 x 10 Kickbacks 3 sets as many as I can do Back and Biceps Seated rows 3 x 10 Preacher Curls 3 x 10 or crazy 8's lat Pulldowns 3 x 10 Dumbells 3 x 10 reverse flys 3 x 10 Legs and Shoulders Squats 3 x 10 Leg Press 3 x 10 Calve presses 3 sets as many as I can do 2 others I am blanking on their names Shoulder raises 3 x 10 Shoulder Press 3 x 10 Shrugs 3 sets of as many as I can do Thanks I notice a general trend. You need to tailor fit the rep scheme to the exercise and fit it with the rep schemes of other exercises that work the same group. For example if one week I do 8,6,4,4,2 on flat bb bench then I will usually do something like 3x6-8 on db incline bench and 3x8-10 for flies. EDIT: Oh and if you are 122, you DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT, ever need to do cardio. In fact anytime the thought pops into your mind go to your kitchen, get a plate, pile as much food as humanly possible on that plate, and sit there until you eat it all.

Ya I follow you. I am not sure what you mean by rep scheme's? Do some excersices have more importance in the scheme? Thanks for your help.

Joe Canada Ya I follow you. I am not sure what you mean by rep scheme's? Do some excersices have more importance in the scheme? Thanks for your help. A little off topic, where in Canada do you live?

Montreal, but I have been in Sacramento California since 01 going to school.

eating chicken breasts should be your new cardio

Joe Canada Montreal, but I have been in Sacramento California since 01 going to school. Cool, where in Montreal? South Shore or directly in Montreal?

what are your goals, build mass, or keep toned?

also, how old are you?

My parents live off the Island of Montreal in Pincourt. When I last lived there we lived in the Hudson area. I am 22 and I want mass and strength.

Joe Canada Ya I follow you. I am not sure what you mean by rep scheme's? Do some excersices have more importance in the scheme? Thanks for your help. Compound movements (ie. bench, squat, DL, rows) are usually done in the lower rep range although it is important to vary the reps to get a wide variety and increase strength and hypertrophy. Accessory movements (ie. flies, curls) are usually done in a slightly higher rep range.

Do this routine and eat a lot. Then eat some more. http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=1574598 I'm 5'7" and started at 125. Now up to 145

Help with my routine

Should abs be done while bulking?

Should abs be done while bulking?

Help me out here

Of course.

why shouldn't they.

Why not? They are still a muscle group that should be stimulated. If you do not and your back becomes much stronger then it can lead to problems, such as back problems caused by poor posture because your body is out of balance.

Thank you

Should abs be done while bulking?

WTF Acupuncture...

WTF Acupuncture...

Whats up. Well, heres the story. Last week I tried to do box squatting, and I will still trying to get comfortable with it. After doing it with low weight, I put on 315, as that is my usual first set (after warming up a bit with 225) I come down tap the seat, and go up...next rep, i come down a bit too fast and end up sitting on the box, but i can't get it back up. So I rest for a moment, and end up straining myself and trying to adjust my footing to get a better position to stand up with the weight. I get it up. However, I end up feeling this sharp pain around my mid-lower back around the spine. CRAPP. my first squatting injury. Whatever, I made the mistake of doing another few sets with lighter weight. After I woke up, my back was killing me. Sharp pains whenever I moved the wrong way...I decided to take it easy for the next few days and not do anything that strains my back. So it was a week since the incident, last night. I was eager to try squatting again. Warmed up 225, no problem. put on 315, got it off the rack no problem, got ready to go down, and suddenly i felt a tiny shift in that same spot on my spine. Hurt like a betch. Racked the BB, and got off. Ended up doing Bench/Shoulder/Tri last night. Woke up, I could barely get out of bed. Didn't go to school, and I'm stranded at home. Now, my mom wants to take me to get acupuncture. WTF, I never believed in that oriental medicine crap. Acupuncture is supposed to release Chi? Uh, Chi only reminds me of Naruto and chakra or something. I dunno, I think they're going to put needles in my back and draw some blood. My mom got it done to her shoulder last week and she said it helped. BS. I would rather get x-rays done to make sure everything is okay. Either that, or I could wait another two weeks to make sure it heals up . I know I made some bad decisions in trying to put up that much weight with box squats initialy, and trying to squat again after a week of injury. But thats besides the point. What do you guys think of acupuncture? Is it legit? Does it work? I find it hard to believe that a few pokes with some long needles will help my spine heal. Also, do you guys have any other suggestions or comments? I'm ready for flames for my stupidity, thats understood. Any serious comments would help. ___________________________________________ Cliffs:Hurt my back/spine doing box squat a week ago, tried again last night, hurt it in the same spot. Now my mom is going to take me to get acupuncture. I dont believe in it. Thoughts? ____________________________________________ Plus, i frickin HATE needles. Some kinda mild phobia I guess.

Acupuncture basically made all my knee pain go away....the needles really aren't bad at all, they aren't thick like drug needles. Go for it...

dont be afraid of the needles. u wont feel a thing and u probably wont see them either if its on ur back so that shouldn't be a concern. its worth a shot i say. but your best bet to heal is probably just resting for a few weeks. i doubt an xray shows anything abnormal but get one of those two if you've got insurance just to be sure.

superbri007 I just got it today, and I love it, its relaxing. The best part about it is just laying there for 20 mins in a silent room stairing at the ceiling. The needles don't hurt really, unless they put it in a little too far geez. in 9th grade i had to get my immunizations for highschool and football. i nearly passed out after 2 shots...and this was after trying to pretend like i was all cool about it. at least i'm not diabetic like my aunt who takes 7 shots of insulin a day.

superbri007 dude, give it 2 weeks, rest yourself, stretch out, don't lift anything heavy, get some accupuncture, but also get chiropractic re-alignment first!. I go every monday for 10-30 mins or so. get my back aligned, then get accupuncture for sinus's and wherever I'm getting spasms from lifting, etc. wtf realignment? i hope nothing is out of place.

Go to the doctor.

~stangzorized~ Go to the doctor. i don't like the doctor. my mom said we'll get acupuncture, and if its still bad after a few days, we'll get x-ray's done.

superbri007 then just don't look at the needles, and the likelihood of you passing out while lying on yoru stomach or back is 0 to none lol. try it out man, its really cool, and doesn't hurt a bit! the needles are so tiny you don't feel them really haha i was kinda exaggerating about my fear of needles. i'm not scared, i just dont wanna waste my time putting needles in my back when i dont know if it'll do anything. but the 9th grade thing is a true story.

superbri007 today I had 14 needles in, one in between each thumb and pointer finger, 1 on each ear lobe, one on my scalp, two above my upper lip, about 4 around my left shoulder, one on my right shoulder area and some down my forearm dude, what did you do? get in a train wreck? or did purevl drop his deadlift on your face?

superbri007 purevl dropped something else on my face he's into scat and I wasn't aware anyways: acupuncture is awesome. my dad used to do it. it works.

superbri007 your German, aren't you guys into the whole shitting on peoples face thing? nah man. you guys buy them videos

superbri007 or download and share them with OT send me some more music biatch!!! I need more Rammstein for my new mp3 player im gettin in a week or so waddya want? i have Mutter as well as a best of here...

Rammstein - Ich Will (live)

i'm currently upping something else plus i wanna upload the Kung-Fu Hustle over night (10 Pm right now over here)...Rammstein will probably have to wait a bit

you did see the mp3 link in this thread though i hope?! also: you need to get rid of that stupid fuckin avatar mang

superbri007 as in " I'm a n00bert and didn't see the link..." or " I'm a broke bitch and can't afford another sub!" IBboth

go to the acupunture treatment. i like it and i believe in it. many many reasons..

Came back from it not too long ago. All he did was ask me what happened, and before i finished explaining he said "okay, get on the bed" (in korean) he started poking the general area with his fingers, made a fist and pushed extremely hard. f'in hurt. he's like "okay, its a dam" meaning a stress cramp? so he gets this pen like jig, and starts poking holes in my back...and doesn't stop. it must've been literally 100 holes. then he puts these glass cups on my back and uses this manual vacuum to pump out the air. so after waiting 10 minutes, he comes back and releases the cups and wipes away all the blood, which felt like it was a lot. result? i don't really feel any better. he says it will after a day or two, and he wants me to come back tomorrow. looks really ugly too. (you're not seeing things, my right lat is bigger than my left lat. )

I don't think you should ever sit back down on the box if you can't get it up. Just drop the weight if you're forced to sit back down. I think I even remember christophers saying this.

b-stevens I don't think you should ever sit back down on the box if you can't get it up. Just drop the weight if you're forced to sit back down. I think I even remember christophers saying this. now that would've been greater advice a week ago.

superbri007 i've never seen that approach, i'll ask my chiro. you sure your guy didn't get his Accupuncture certification from a crack jack box? nonetheless, cool, you need to go back for a followup too followup? dam. he's supposedly famous among northern virginian koreans for really helping them out. my mom got the same thing done last week b/c her shoulder was killing her...she says she feels fine now.

You could tell your friends your girlfriend has some suckin skills. Hm..hickeys?

WTF Acupuncture...

runners

runners

I just starting running to prepare myself for the citadel in the fall i have a question after i go about a mile i get pains/ cramps on my side directly across from my navel. anyone know how i can prevent this or know what this is. i drink about 6 bottles a of water + some gatoraide per day so i dont think i am dehydrated but i'm not sure thanks

Does it keep hurting or does it eventually stop while you're running?

Girl_Next_Door Does it keep hurting or does it eventually stop while you're running? it stops if i when i slow my pace to a brisk walk

i used to get that when i ran for soccer. our coach told us to put our hands behind our head while we were running and take deep breaths. seemed to work for me

disblohs i used to get that when i ran for soccer. our coach told us to put our hands behind our head while we were running and take deep breaths. seemed to work for me thanks ill try that

Grandpa Cramps can be caused by a couple of things. It's a myth that putting your hands over your head helps. It's actually the deep breathing that helps. And like stated above, don't drink an exceptional amount before running. Except movement from the weight in your stomach also causes the cramps. I think the underlying cause of both is pressure on your diaphragm, but don't quote me on that. thanks

i wonder if strengthening your core muscles would help?

Exercise related transient abdominal pain, or stitches have alot of myths surrounding them. I found this in a snopes article, citing Engel & Malloy, 1993 A form of muscle cramp, stitches are caused by the blood supply to the diaphragm being shut off by pressure from the lungs above and the abdomen below, like a bomb and a submarine attack at the same time. So what does this have to do with food? Well, if you have food in your stomach you are likely to develop stomach cramps. Here's why: To aid digestion the heart pumps a large volume of blood to the stomach. During exercise, the heart pumps blood to the muscles, and the flow of the blood to the stomach is greatly diminished. Without the blood supply, the stomach muscles suffer from lack of oxygen and, like any muscle without oxygen, develop cramps. I also looked at PubMed, a bloke named Morton DP has done a fair bit of research on ETAP, he has reached several conclusions The results indicate that in order to avoid ETAP, susceptible individuals should refrain from consuming reconstituted fruit juices and beverages similarly high in carbohydrate content and osmolality, shortly before and during exercise. Further, the mechanism responsible for the heightened experience of ETAP in the FJ trial extends beyond a gastric mass explanation. CONCLUSION: Training status alters the frequency of occurrence of ETAP but has little effect on the incidence or severity of the pain. Further, ETAP and STP decrease with age but are not related to gender or BMI. CONCLUSIONS: The findings of the present study provide perspective on previously suggested etiologies of ETAP, which include diaphragmatic ischemia and stress on the visceral "ligaments," and form the basis for examining alternative etiologies such as cramp of the musculature and irritation of the parietal peritoneum. He has also highlighted that ETAP is unresearched, These findings may indicate that efforts to optimise spinal integrity may be important in the management of ETAP. Indeed, many questions relating to ETAP remain unanswered and numerous research opportunities exist. Although ETAP is an old complaint, its study is relatively new. I hope that increased research attention in the future will provide clearer insights into the cause of the pain as well as innovative strategies for its management. The article where he quotes this is available for free here http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/37/4/287

edd, great post my australian friend.

In order to fix the cramps in your sides: 1) Do not eat 2 hours before you run. (May vary) 2) Do not drink for about an hour and a half before you run. (May vary) 3) If you follow 1 and 2, and you get a cramp, run anyway, your body must learn the hard way.

you guys rock. thanks a ton, on a side note where could i get info on core muscles and how to excersice them

exrx.com is reliable. there isnt much focus on that topic here.

ehh i eat and drink right before i run sometimes.i always though pains in the side was from being out of shape

there are core type of excercises.. it's pretty much similar to yoga

runners

Has lifting helped any of you score some putang?

Has lifting helped any of you score some putang?

If I tried to use it for that, yes. The thing is I don't actively go seeking women due to lack of time ATM.

I was with my gf before I got really into it so no. But I'm sure I could.

Absolutely.

It has hurt me chances.... everyone around me feels that skinny cut me >>> fat me and I probably won't get to cut until summer of 06

No, Im still fat. I can just lift heavier things.

i don't know fucking know, i can't conduct a clinical trial with skinny me's and buff me's and see who gets more ass in the real world. ass might not even be the measure, it might be like perceived attractiveness or some shit.

No.

drunknmunky No, Im still fat. I can just lift heavier things. best answer ever

most worthwhile girls don't give a shit how many muscles you have...you just have to know how to "spit game" as they say.

with all the wrong girls, yes.

drunknmunky No, Im still fat. I can just lift heavier things. DOT

Nope. I dont try either, its 100 percent for myself. Ive actually rejected "putang"

I have got some ass, but it hasn't helped me get a g/f

Yes, on many occasions, before I settled down

Hahah. Oh yah it has. Don't know if its because I was mentally a slut just fat bodied earlier and the good body has instilled more confidence, or if its because they want me more, or both. But definately.

joy division most worthwhile girls don't give a shit how many muscles you have...you just have to know how to "spit game" as they say. So girls that are worthwhile only care how good your game is? Keep talking, I'm taking notes.

in a word: maybe I was a smooth pimp even before I got in shape

I'd have to say more than likely it has. Being 340lbs isnt' that attractive afterall

Im gonna have to say no for me, but i do have more confidence... i think.

ryazbeck ... i think. that means you don't

haha

It can really go either way. I've had girls tell me how much thicker I was than last time they saw me just from looking or from a hug. On the other hand others have told me how fat I look since I used to be so skinny.

I get more tang when I'm fat. Bulking rules

Girls don't like guys with big muscles.

Has lifting helped any of you score some putang?

tired eyes...

tired eyes...

in the morning when i wake up, one of my eye is smaller than the other, and when i completely relax the muscles on my face, it feels like the skin around smaller eye is kinda swollen or "lazy", causing it to feel like it doesnt want to open up usually at night this feeling goes away and my eye would be wide open again, but i was just wondering if theres any quick solutions to "wake my eye up"

Punch yourself in the face.

rub gasoline in your eye

reverse eye crunches > *

face pulls

do you wear contacts?

Jab yourself in the eye with a sharp object

tired eyes...