talking to friend who is doing roids

talking to friend who is doing roids

ok well this kid has done a few cycles...he is 17...he tells everyone he is getting them because he can not keep his mouth closed...he basically doesnt know anything bout working out...once he is done with a cycle or whatever he will stop working out and shrink back down..i got in a car accident in august and got very much smaller than him...i have been back at it since january and i am now a lot bigger than him...he has told me he is getting d-bol this week but i have not talked to him since...so here is a little bit of what he said tonight MI HuRrIcAnEs 21: na i dont do them my brother does kid : people that are addicted to them and do them for years yeah they kill u kid : ur fucking dumb i dont have anything and if u think roids do that shit to u then ur pretty dumb (talking about killing you earlier than not doing them and other side effects) kid : if i get a scholarship then yes kid : and if not its the last time im gonna play sports so might as well do it as best u can (talking bout he should not do it for sports) (basically admitting he does have them now, like i said cant keep mouth shut) me : why dont you work out natural? kid : cause i already do and natrual doesnt work for me maybe for some it does but it desnt work for me like that me : works for anyone if you work at it kid: not with differnt matabolisms and such it doesnt me: eat as much as possible, it actually does kid : and i know waht ur saying about the roids but if it really would take years off my life i wouldnt do them convo is still going so if he says anything else ill post what do you all think?

the kid is stupid, he is too young



he sucks at sports also...was on jv in baseball and football as a junior

Maybe he read Canseco's book where he says that if done properly, steroids are beneficial. I'm sure this kid knows what he's doing.

NickStam Maybe he read Canseco's book where he says that if done properly, steroids are beneficial. I'm sure this kid knows what he's doing. obviously at 17 and done a FEW cycles, he doesn't

NickStam Maybe he read Canseco's book where he says that if done properly, steroids are beneficial. I'm sure this kid knows what he's doing. no, he has no idea what he is doing...he stops working out after taking them therefore losing all the muscle he gained...also has no idea of the bad side effects just knows it will make him bigger

Tell him to message me and hook me up. I'll treat those babies right...

NickStam Maybe he read Canseco's book where he says that if done properly, steroids are beneficial. I'm sure this kid knows what he's doing. they are. when you are a fully matured adult anyways.

if the kid is too ignorant to listen, let him do what he wants and figure it out the hard way

If all hes taking is dbol alone he wont gain anything but 5lbs of water. He needs Dbol to jumpstart start a cycle of Test or Sustanon. He wont notice any real strength gains hell just look bloated. He will piss it out after he stops. What a fag.

gammalex If all hes taking is dbol alone he wont gain anything but 5lbs of water. He needs Dbol to jumpstart start a cycle of Test or Sustanon. He wont notice any real strength gains hell just look bloated. He will piss it out after he stops. What a fag. What are you talking about? He will gain a good amount of weight with a dbol only cycle and strength will go through the roof.

SteveO if the kid is too ignorant to listen, let him do what he wants and figure it out the hard way dot

Ask him "What do you take for PCT?". Don't say post cycle therapy, say PCT.

neither of you should even be talking about them, nevermind doing them. Let your friend learn the hardway

Neo22 What are you talking about? He will gain a good amount of weight with a dbol only cycle and strength will go through the roof. Isn't dbol what most bodybuilders from 60's and 70's took?

timberwolf Isn't dbol what most bodybuilders from 60's and 70's took? most athletes of this era I believe ps. gammalex, you are wrong

gammalex If all hes taking is dbol alone he wont gain anything but 5lbs of water. He needs Dbol to jumpstart start a cycle of Test or Sustanon. He wont notice any real strength gains hell just look bloated. He will piss it out after he stops. What a fag. and on that note....your wrong

gammalex If all hes taking is dbol alone he wont gain anything but 5lbs of water. He needs Dbol to jumpstart start a cycle of Test or Sustanon. He wont notice any real strength gains hell just look bloated. He will piss it out after he stops. What a fag. Wow, /yourself. Dianabol is used to jump start most cycles for the fact it kicks in very fast. Stength gains are awesome, weight gain is expected, yes there will be some water retention, but if you know what you're doing, there shouldn't be much.

lock this thread because there isn't ONE correct response to this monstrosity

wait...maybe just one

Filmboy44 wait...maybe just one Yea check again.

Filmboy44 lock this thread because there isn't ONE correct response to this monstrosity or two.

haha, in 15 years, his wife will leave him after he cant get her preggo, so sad.

gammalex If all hes taking is dbol alone he wont gain anything but 5lbs of water. He needs Dbol to jumpstart start a cycle of Test or Sustanon. He wont notice any real strength gains hell just look bloated. He will piss it out after he stops. What a fag. someones should not talk about thing he know nothing about....why do you think peopel used dbol to kickstart a cycle? Strenth gains w/dbol are frightning, you can eat like shit and the increase in strength is still astounding, when used correctly dbol is fuckin insane... when done alone tho mass and strength drop off fast, very very fast.

talking to friend who is doing roids

anyone uses a chinup bar on the doorway?

anyone uses a chinup bar on the doorway?

Anyone uses a chinup bar that you put on your doorway, i need one for starting out so i dont have to do 2-3 reps at the gym . Recommends where can i get one and does it damage the side of the door? Thanks

i had one. it scratches the part that connect to the wall. i placed a few nails there in the frame as well just in case it breaks or something.

i was thinking about getting one but it wouldn't allow for a wide enough grip to really hit my lats

evi1eddie i was thinking about getting one but it wouldn't allow for a wide enough grip to really hit my lats

Thnx for the inputs guys i'll buy one and see whow it goes, damn dccapen hope your not seriuosly injured.

If you are over 200 lbs, might i suggest that you probably dont want to buy one of these, unless you want to replace your whole door/wall.

I got one from valeo, have not gotten to use it yet since i need to find a doorway to support it

im close to 200 im around 185-190 i just placed a few nails on the frame. This was right at my restroom so i didnt care how the door looked.

I got one, I weight 190, no problems, and I feel comfortable jerking it around, it's solid in there, no nails or anything

my mom has had one in her doorway for about 10 years now and its perfectly sturdy. whenever i go see her i do pull ups on it and im 213, so it should hold fine, i used to hang on that shit upside down and all kinds of shit, they are awesome, just make sure its in there tight, cuz it can come loose if you twist the bar.

Perplexed the width of a door frame is more than enough to hit your lats. i knew someone would nitpick that point, which is why i made sure to use the word 'really,' as in take away more of the arm involvement and provide more lat isolation.

i'm too weak for my weight to do a pullup. and i'm not about to get one as decoration so it looks like i can.

Mine holds perfectly.. its the type that u screw 2 cups into the door frame sides.. then the bar itself will screw outwards, extending into the cups and applying pressure so that it holds firmly. It's good for doing pull ups, but your space is restricted so you can't do wide grip etc..

you're also going to need that power screwer tool..haha but yeah you can get one in big5 or something.

"THE DOOR GYM" I have it and love it... No screws, never fallen once, and can hold quite a bit of weight. You can also buy an attachment so you can do wide grip pullups for lats and whatnot. I've probably had mine for about 5 years now. LOVE IT!! Product Link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...07314?v=glance Broad Reach Attachment: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...=UTF8&v=glance

Thanks

Fishbait "THE DOOR GYM" I have it and love it... No screws, never fallen once, and can hold quite a bit of weight. You can also buy an attachment so you can do wide grip pullups for lats and whatnot. I've probably had mine for about 5 years now. LOVE IT!! picture Product Link: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...07314?v=glance Broad Reach Attachment: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...=UTF8&v=glance How does that work? does it just hang over the door frame?

b-stevens How does that work? does it just hang over the door frame? one side "clips" onto the top of the door frame, the other side has two arms which "hold" onto the door frame... when you pull down on it to do pullups, the weight is distributed evenly across the door frame and bam... pullups! like i said, this is by far the best pullup bar you can get, in my opinion. cheap as hell too... $50! read the reviews on amazon if you want to hear what other people have to say. from what i saw, almost everyone gave it 5 out of 5 stars.

Sounds better than most of the other ideas. I still don't feel comfortable doing that in my house. We had some polish guy do alot of the stuff in our house and I've been finding out lately (due to maintenance) that some of the shit he did was very half-assed and poorly constructed.

b-stevens Sounds better than most of the other ideas. I still don't feel comfortable doing that in my house. We had some polish guy do alot of the stuff in our house and I've been finding out lately (due to maintenance) that some of the shit he did was very half-assed and poorly constructed. like i said, the weight is pretty evenly distributed throughout.

Perplexed the width of a door frame is more than enough to hit your lats. naw, it really isnt

evi1eddie i was thinking about getting one but it wouldn't allow for a wide enough grip to really hit my lats mine would. since i own a power rack now, i don't need mine. if anyone wants to buy it...

I vaguely recall there was a lawsuit against those door frame ones. Someone used gravity boots with them. Thing was that he had called the chin up bar manufacturers if it was safe and they said it was. Anyway he fell on his head and sued. I believe he either won or they settled.

timberwolf I vaguely recall there was a lawsuit against those door frame ones. Someone used gravity boots with them. Thing was that he had called the chin up bar manufacturers if it was safe and they said it was. Anyway he fell on his head and sued. I believe he either won or they settled.

I have one of these mounted in my house..

anyone uses a chinup bar on the doorway?

Should kid's be doing this...

Should kid's be doing this...

fuck yes

a little early

i wish i did

Publius wtfgrip looks like a regular over-under grip

Publius There is no way the kid can do anything with the weight in that position though. wow

Publius There is no way the kid can do anything with the weight in that position though. i can't quite find the right smiley to respond this ....

Publius There is no way the kid can do anything with the weight in that position though.

Publius There is no way the kid can do anything with the weight in that position though.

Chris3G i can't quite find the right smiley to respond this .... See above

Chris3G i can't quite find the right smiley to respond this ....

yeah they should do it if they wanna destroy their growth plates.

copperkali yeah they should do it if they wanna destroy their growth plates.

Publius There is no way the kid can do anything with the weight in that position though. hmmm...

Publius He looks like he's about to fucking fall over. dude

Publius He looks like he's about to fucking fall over. Are you really that fucking dumb??? wow

hmm, i cant do that.

This thread has turned into comedy gold.

This thread has degenerated into a black hole of stupidity. But boy is it funny.

That should be the Animal Pak spokesman

copperkali yeah they should do it if they wanna destroy their growth plates. Publius There is no way the kid can do anything with the weight in that position though. Both of your Broly statuses have been revoked until further notice.

Publius There is no way the kid can do anything with the weight in that position though. omfg

Is that a singlet or a squat/dead suit? Because it doesn't really look like a singlet

Grouch Both of your Broly statuses have been revoked until further notice.

that picture is a good photoshop opportunity too bad i dont have it here though

Should kid's be doing this...

Bulking confusion

Bulking confusion

when a lot of you guys bulk it seems like you don't really put that much on around your stomach. i want to bulk because i'm sick of having these little pussy boy arms, but it seems like my body likes to just deposit everything onto my midsection creating huge love handles. i've read all the stickies and i've frequented the forums for awhile now. i understand that you put on fat when bulking, but the main reason i don't want to bulk is because my love handles look sick enough as it is. i'd rather not give them more reason to get bigger. does clean bulking actually prevent this or is there anything i can do to combat my love handles taking on the bulk of the fat gain? i'm sure this has been answered, but i don't even know what to search for. pics for reference

if you bulk correctly, you'll gain significant fat around the midsection. that's just how it is. the people on here who are "bulking" and not gaining fat aren't really bulking. keep eating shitloads of food and ignore your stomach for a couple of months. concentrate on getting stronger and bigger each and every week. eat everything in sight.

Werdna if you bulk correctly, you'll gain significant fat around the midsection. that's just how it is. the people on here who are "bulking" and not gaining fat aren't really bulking. keep eating shitloads of food and ignore your stomach for a couple of months. concentrate on getting stronger and bigger each and every week. eat everything in sight. well, i've been cutting since is started lifting in october. my body composition has changed quite a bit since then. I want to bulk so i can put on more muslce, but it's really difficult for me to tell myself to get fat again.

I know how you feel man because I'm cutting right now and I will through summer but I know im not gonna wanna bulk because I'll lose my pretty definition. But I know im going to have to go through with it. Thats just how that shiet goes man.

i understand this will take longer, but would it work to bulk for a month and then cut and repeat?

I've been bulking for the past 2 weeks to put on muscle, its worked - I'm at my strongest ever so far. My fiancee isn't complaining about that. She is complaining about the gut though. Alas, I must start cutting soon

why is everyone acting like they can't stand to increase their body fat for more than a couple months? if you just want a little more muscle mass in a certain area, then bulking is only going to be temporary, and then after that you're free to cut and you'll never have to bulk again. being more satisfied with your body for the rest of your life > a few months of getting 'fat'

evi1eddie why is everyone acting like they can't stand to increase their body fat for more than a couple months? if you just want a little more muscle mass in a certain area, then bulking is only going to be temporary, and then after that you're free to cut and you'll never have to bulk again. being more satisfied with your body for the rest of your life > a few months of getting 'fat' well, i started working out to lower by bf and i haven't gotten to the point where i consider myself "fit." it's just hard to get fatter when you've worked hard to get rid of it.

bump for pics added

disblohs well, i started working out to lower by bf and i haven't gotten to the point where i consider myself "fit." it's just hard to get fatter when you've worked hard to get rid of it. i sympathize, don't get me wrong these are just the facts, if you want to gain you're going to have to bulk. stop focusing on the short term, and think of the long term and how it will be worth it. you've lost fat before, so you already know you can do it again.

evi1eddie i sympathize, don't get me wrong these are just the facts, if you want to gain you're going to have to bulk. stop focusing on the short term, and think of the long term and how it will be worth it. you've lost fat before, so you already know you can do it again. that's the only good thing to come from my cutting this summer...i proved to myself i could lose fat effectively

Werdna that's the only good thing to come from my cutting this summer...i proved to myself i could lose fat effectively i don't feel like i can. that's one of my main problems.

how about when you start to have a double chin? is that a bad sign or normal when bulking?

Joser how about when you start to have a double chin? is that a bad sign or normal when bulking? i know EXACTLY what you're talking about i started having that before i started cutting, but honestly i should have kept on bulking. its bitter-sweet being able to see all the lbm you've put on but also knowing there could've been a lot more.

Joser how about when you start to have a double chin? is that a bad sign or normal when bulking? well, you'll be gaining fat...just enjoy the food and the gains

when someone is bulking right about how much weight should they be gaining per week?

what I want to know is for how long should you bulk? Is 2 months a significant amount of time to bulk and then cut, or should you bulk for a longer/shorter period of time?

Werdna if you bulk correctly, you'll gain significant fat around the midsection. that's just how it is. the people on here who are "bulking" and not gaining fat aren't really bulking. keep eating shitloads of food and ignore your stomach for a couple of months. concentrate on getting stronger and bigger each and every week. eat everything in sight. funny you say that, coming from someone who eats dirty on a bulk... correlation? I don't care what anyone says, the people that stress these dirty ass bulks are always the one complaining of getting fat on their bulks. I argue this every time because it's true. my recommendation, eat clean and stick to low GI carbs.. it's basically a high calorie cut.

evi1eddie i know EXACTLY what you're talking about i started having that before i started cutting, but honestly i should have kept on bulking. its bitter-sweet being able to see all the lbm you've put on but also knowing there could've been a lot more. . i am bulking. i was 112 but i got up to 142 in 4-5 months. lately im trying to eat "cleaner" just to experiment. i still eat 6 meals a day. in the past 2-3 weeks but i lost 9 lbs . suprisingly i made gains. maybe noob gains but gains are gains. my question is, is there really such thing as clean bulking? because so far, it seems like ive been losing weight rather than gaining weight.

wutang banga what I want to know is for how long should you bulk? Is 2 months a significant amount of time to bulk and then cut, or should you bulk for a longer/shorter period of time? in general, 2 months is just getting your feet wet. if you've never bulked before then you probably don't have a significant amount of lean body mass to begin with, and will most likely want to bulk 12 months or more before you stop and evaluate if you're ready to cut. i was new and stupid so i only bulked for 6 months and now that i'm seeing what i'm cutting down to, i'm really starting to wish i went longer. for me its like christmas morning and i have a present in a huge box. but then i find out it was mostly just packaging and when i finally dig deep enough i find out it was just a pair of socks.

SteveO funny you say that, coming from someone who eats dirty on a bulk... correlation? I don't care what anyone says, the people that stress these dirty ass bulks are always the one complaining of getting fat on their bulks. I argue this every time because it's true. my recommendation, eat clean and stick to low GI carbs.. it's basically a high calorie cut. i saw that you posted your typical day of food in another thread. any idea how much you spent on food a week?

Joser . i am bulking. i was 112 but i got up to 142 in 4-5 months. lately im trying to eat "cleaner" just to experiment. i still eat 6 meals a day. in the past 2-3 weeks but i lost 9 lbs . suprisingly i made gains. maybe noob gains but gains are gains. my question is, is there really such thing as clean bulking? because so far, it seems like ive been losing weight rather than gaining weight. is there such a thing as clean bulking? depends on who you talk to. some say a calorie is a calorie and some say that macronutrients like saturated fat are more easily converted to body fat than other nutrition sources. but whether you're clean bulking or dirty bulking the most important thing is still your total calorie intake for the day. the difficulty most people find in clean bulking is that the food is generally lower in calories which means they have to eat more of it, which in itself is already difficult, but it also means that it's more expensive to get a certain amount of calories through clean foods than 'dirty' foods. it sounds like this is where your weight loss is coming from. even though you're eating the same amount of food, the food has less calories so you're going to need to eat a lot more of it to get over your maintenance calorie threshold. at your weight, you're going to want to eat at least 3,500 - 4,000 calories a day to gain weight, whether it be dirty calories or clean calories. www.fitday.com to check your caloric intake on your new diet.

christophers laugh it up, unlike everyone else on this board I am not the one getting fat on bulks.

disblohs i saw that you posted your typical day of food in another thread. any idea how much you spent on food a week? don't know, it's all bought in bulk.. I'd say around $70 every 2 weeks? not counting whey

christophers ps: i forget but havent you been in the 220 area for a long time now? yep surely have, actually for around 5 months now.. but 3 months of injury can hurt someone right?

Bulking confusion

CEE Dosage??

CEE Dosage??

So i have been taking monohydrate, and i am nearing the end of my 1000g container. I just ordered 600g of CEE from beyond a century and i'm expecting delivery any day this week. I was wondering if i should change my dosage when going from the monohydrate to the CEE. For example a CEE loading phase in the beginning or just continue taking regular dosages. Also what would you guys suggest for a dosage (5-10g/day) and when to take it (morning/night-pre/post workout)?

CEE doesnt need to be loaded. take 3-5g a day. recommended in Orange Juice so that you dont come back and complain about the taste like everyone else

gsteclipse97 CEE doesnt need to be loaded. take 3-5g a day. recommended in Orange Juice so that you dont come back and complain about the taste like everyone else orange juice is good but it still won't mask the CEE

Yea, i have seen the posts about taking it with orange juice. When should i take it, before or after i workout or split 2.5 pre/2.5 post

I usually take two level teaspoons (somewhere between 3 and 5 grams)

ACURA TL-S I usually take two level teaspoons (somewhere between 3 and 5 grams) When do you take it pre or postworkout?

christophers like you keep any of it down with your putting it in water And I still put it in water. I will never learn.

I take mine by mixing it with as little water as possible and taking it like a shot. Then drink lots of water to rinse out my mouth. Also, I have heard crystal light works well.

Mine arrived today. It burned my nose when I sniffed it.

CEE Dosage??

talk about artificially inflated blood pressure

talk about artificially inflated blood pressure

so, finished my workout today, and i was completetly beat. not sure if i have allergies or am just run down, but i wasnt impressed, my stamina sucked, and my heart was pounding when i got home. so, i measured my BP. 20 mins after workout 159/90!! pulse of 110 35-40 mins after workout: 129/80, pulse of 90 damn. time for some cardio.

talk about artificially inflated blood pressure

talk about artificially inflated blood pressure

Designer Whey and cutting FAT

Designer Whey and cutting FAT

Just wondering if something like Designer Whey would be ok to take after weight training workouts. I'm trying to cut fat plus build muscle, so I have my cardio and weight days....would whey protein be ok after my weight workouts? thanks

Why wouldnt it? Would you ask the same about eating a piece of chicken after a work out?

yes, but cutting fat and building muscle is not going to happen. You'll have to pick one.

Chris3G yes, but cutting fat and building muscle is not going to happen. You'll have to pick one. so you're saying the informationin 'christophers' sticky threads are false? i'm not trying to become a body builder here.

eliktronix so you're saying the informationin 'christophers' sticky threads are false? i'm not trying to become a body builder here. show me where christophers has EVER said you can cut fat and build muscle at the same time, unless you are complelely new to lifting and working out, or on steroids.

Chris3G show me where christophers has EVER said you can cut fat and build muscle at the same time, unless you are complelely new to lifting and working out, or on steroids. Those are the only ways that can be accomplished.

eliktronix so you're saying the informationin 'christophers' sticky threads are false? i'm not trying to become a body builder here. its more about maintaining lbm through lifting and a little more calorie usage through epoc. no one said not to lift weights though.

christophers i am getting annoyed at the ever so increasing suggestions to lose fat first through aerobic exercise and THEN begin weight training. this is so backwards. so. very. backwards. high intensity weight lifting will: build muscle mass build strength increase fat loss improve metabolism make you look a fuck of a lot better than waiting until you're done losing fat will. just following what he said since his advice has worked for me so far and yes i'm still new to a lot of this

Designer Whey and cutting FAT