Should abs be done while bulking?

Should abs be done while bulking?

Help me out here

Of course.

why shouldn't they.

Why not? They are still a muscle group that should be stimulated. If you do not and your back becomes much stronger then it can lead to problems, such as back problems caused by poor posture because your body is out of balance.

Thank you

Should abs be done while bulking?

WTF Acupuncture...

WTF Acupuncture...

Whats up. Well, heres the story. Last week I tried to do box squatting, and I will still trying to get comfortable with it. After doing it with low weight, I put on 315, as that is my usual first set (after warming up a bit with 225) I come down tap the seat, and go up...next rep, i come down a bit too fast and end up sitting on the box, but i can't get it back up. So I rest for a moment, and end up straining myself and trying to adjust my footing to get a better position to stand up with the weight. I get it up. However, I end up feeling this sharp pain around my mid-lower back around the spine. CRAPP. my first squatting injury. Whatever, I made the mistake of doing another few sets with lighter weight. After I woke up, my back was killing me. Sharp pains whenever I moved the wrong way...I decided to take it easy for the next few days and not do anything that strains my back. So it was a week since the incident, last night. I was eager to try squatting again. Warmed up 225, no problem. put on 315, got it off the rack no problem, got ready to go down, and suddenly i felt a tiny shift in that same spot on my spine. Hurt like a betch. Racked the BB, and got off. Ended up doing Bench/Shoulder/Tri last night. Woke up, I could barely get out of bed. Didn't go to school, and I'm stranded at home. Now, my mom wants to take me to get acupuncture. WTF, I never believed in that oriental medicine crap. Acupuncture is supposed to release Chi? Uh, Chi only reminds me of Naruto and chakra or something. I dunno, I think they're going to put needles in my back and draw some blood. My mom got it done to her shoulder last week and she said it helped. BS. I would rather get x-rays done to make sure everything is okay. Either that, or I could wait another two weeks to make sure it heals up . I know I made some bad decisions in trying to put up that much weight with box squats initialy, and trying to squat again after a week of injury. But thats besides the point. What do you guys think of acupuncture? Is it legit? Does it work? I find it hard to believe that a few pokes with some long needles will help my spine heal. Also, do you guys have any other suggestions or comments? I'm ready for flames for my stupidity, thats understood. Any serious comments would help. ___________________________________________ Cliffs:Hurt my back/spine doing box squat a week ago, tried again last night, hurt it in the same spot. Now my mom is going to take me to get acupuncture. I dont believe in it. Thoughts? ____________________________________________ Plus, i frickin HATE needles. Some kinda mild phobia I guess.

Acupuncture basically made all my knee pain go away....the needles really aren't bad at all, they aren't thick like drug needles. Go for it...

dont be afraid of the needles. u wont feel a thing and u probably wont see them either if its on ur back so that shouldn't be a concern. its worth a shot i say. but your best bet to heal is probably just resting for a few weeks. i doubt an xray shows anything abnormal but get one of those two if you've got insurance just to be sure.

superbri007 I just got it today, and I love it, its relaxing. The best part about it is just laying there for 20 mins in a silent room stairing at the ceiling. The needles don't hurt really, unless they put it in a little too far geez. in 9th grade i had to get my immunizations for highschool and football. i nearly passed out after 2 shots...and this was after trying to pretend like i was all cool about it. at least i'm not diabetic like my aunt who takes 7 shots of insulin a day.

superbri007 dude, give it 2 weeks, rest yourself, stretch out, don't lift anything heavy, get some accupuncture, but also get chiropractic re-alignment first!. I go every monday for 10-30 mins or so. get my back aligned, then get accupuncture for sinus's and wherever I'm getting spasms from lifting, etc. wtf realignment? i hope nothing is out of place.

Go to the doctor.

~stangzorized~ Go to the doctor. i don't like the doctor. my mom said we'll get acupuncture, and if its still bad after a few days, we'll get x-ray's done.

superbri007 then just don't look at the needles, and the likelihood of you passing out while lying on yoru stomach or back is 0 to none lol. try it out man, its really cool, and doesn't hurt a bit! the needles are so tiny you don't feel them really haha i was kinda exaggerating about my fear of needles. i'm not scared, i just dont wanna waste my time putting needles in my back when i dont know if it'll do anything. but the 9th grade thing is a true story.

superbri007 today I had 14 needles in, one in between each thumb and pointer finger, 1 on each ear lobe, one on my scalp, two above my upper lip, about 4 around my left shoulder, one on my right shoulder area and some down my forearm dude, what did you do? get in a train wreck? or did purevl drop his deadlift on your face?

superbri007 purevl dropped something else on my face he's into scat and I wasn't aware anyways: acupuncture is awesome. my dad used to do it. it works.

superbri007 your German, aren't you guys into the whole shitting on peoples face thing? nah man. you guys buy them videos

superbri007 or download and share them with OT send me some more music biatch!!! I need more Rammstein for my new mp3 player im gettin in a week or so waddya want? i have Mutter as well as a best of here...

Rammstein - Ich Will (live)

i'm currently upping something else plus i wanna upload the Kung-Fu Hustle over night (10 Pm right now over here)...Rammstein will probably have to wait a bit

you did see the mp3 link in this thread though i hope?! also: you need to get rid of that stupid fuckin avatar mang

superbri007 as in " I'm a n00bert and didn't see the link..." or " I'm a broke bitch and can't afford another sub!" IBboth

go to the acupunture treatment. i like it and i believe in it. many many reasons..

Came back from it not too long ago. All he did was ask me what happened, and before i finished explaining he said "okay, get on the bed" (in korean) he started poking the general area with his fingers, made a fist and pushed extremely hard. f'in hurt. he's like "okay, its a dam" meaning a stress cramp? so he gets this pen like jig, and starts poking holes in my back...and doesn't stop. it must've been literally 100 holes. then he puts these glass cups on my back and uses this manual vacuum to pump out the air. so after waiting 10 minutes, he comes back and releases the cups and wipes away all the blood, which felt like it was a lot. result? i don't really feel any better. he says it will after a day or two, and he wants me to come back tomorrow. looks really ugly too. (you're not seeing things, my right lat is bigger than my left lat. )

I don't think you should ever sit back down on the box if you can't get it up. Just drop the weight if you're forced to sit back down. I think I even remember christophers saying this.

b-stevens I don't think you should ever sit back down on the box if you can't get it up. Just drop the weight if you're forced to sit back down. I think I even remember christophers saying this. now that would've been greater advice a week ago.

superbri007 i've never seen that approach, i'll ask my chiro. you sure your guy didn't get his Accupuncture certification from a crack jack box? nonetheless, cool, you need to go back for a followup too followup? dam. he's supposedly famous among northern virginian koreans for really helping them out. my mom got the same thing done last week b/c her shoulder was killing her...she says she feels fine now.

You could tell your friends your girlfriend has some suckin skills. Hm..hickeys?

WTF Acupuncture...

runners

runners

I just starting running to prepare myself for the citadel in the fall i have a question after i go about a mile i get pains/ cramps on my side directly across from my navel. anyone know how i can prevent this or know what this is. i drink about 6 bottles a of water + some gatoraide per day so i dont think i am dehydrated but i'm not sure thanks

Does it keep hurting or does it eventually stop while you're running?

Girl_Next_Door Does it keep hurting or does it eventually stop while you're running? it stops if i when i slow my pace to a brisk walk

i used to get that when i ran for soccer. our coach told us to put our hands behind our head while we were running and take deep breaths. seemed to work for me

disblohs i used to get that when i ran for soccer. our coach told us to put our hands behind our head while we were running and take deep breaths. seemed to work for me thanks ill try that

Grandpa Cramps can be caused by a couple of things. It's a myth that putting your hands over your head helps. It's actually the deep breathing that helps. And like stated above, don't drink an exceptional amount before running. Except movement from the weight in your stomach also causes the cramps. I think the underlying cause of both is pressure on your diaphragm, but don't quote me on that. thanks

i wonder if strengthening your core muscles would help?

Exercise related transient abdominal pain, or stitches have alot of myths surrounding them. I found this in a snopes article, citing Engel & Malloy, 1993 A form of muscle cramp, stitches are caused by the blood supply to the diaphragm being shut off by pressure from the lungs above and the abdomen below, like a bomb and a submarine attack at the same time. So what does this have to do with food? Well, if you have food in your stomach you are likely to develop stomach cramps. Here's why: To aid digestion the heart pumps a large volume of blood to the stomach. During exercise, the heart pumps blood to the muscles, and the flow of the blood to the stomach is greatly diminished. Without the blood supply, the stomach muscles suffer from lack of oxygen and, like any muscle without oxygen, develop cramps. I also looked at PubMed, a bloke named Morton DP has done a fair bit of research on ETAP, he has reached several conclusions The results indicate that in order to avoid ETAP, susceptible individuals should refrain from consuming reconstituted fruit juices and beverages similarly high in carbohydrate content and osmolality, shortly before and during exercise. Further, the mechanism responsible for the heightened experience of ETAP in the FJ trial extends beyond a gastric mass explanation. CONCLUSION: Training status alters the frequency of occurrence of ETAP but has little effect on the incidence or severity of the pain. Further, ETAP and STP decrease with age but are not related to gender or BMI. CONCLUSIONS: The findings of the present study provide perspective on previously suggested etiologies of ETAP, which include diaphragmatic ischemia and stress on the visceral "ligaments," and form the basis for examining alternative etiologies such as cramp of the musculature and irritation of the parietal peritoneum. He has also highlighted that ETAP is unresearched, These findings may indicate that efforts to optimise spinal integrity may be important in the management of ETAP. Indeed, many questions relating to ETAP remain unanswered and numerous research opportunities exist. Although ETAP is an old complaint, its study is relatively new. I hope that increased research attention in the future will provide clearer insights into the cause of the pain as well as innovative strategies for its management. The article where he quotes this is available for free here http://bjsm.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/37/4/287

edd, great post my australian friend.

In order to fix the cramps in your sides: 1) Do not eat 2 hours before you run. (May vary) 2) Do not drink for about an hour and a half before you run. (May vary) 3) If you follow 1 and 2, and you get a cramp, run anyway, your body must learn the hard way.

you guys rock. thanks a ton, on a side note where could i get info on core muscles and how to excersice them

exrx.com is reliable. there isnt much focus on that topic here.

ehh i eat and drink right before i run sometimes.i always though pains in the side was from being out of shape

there are core type of excercises.. it's pretty much similar to yoga

runners

Has lifting helped any of you score some putang?

Has lifting helped any of you score some putang?

If I tried to use it for that, yes. The thing is I don't actively go seeking women due to lack of time ATM.

I was with my gf before I got really into it so no. But I'm sure I could.

Absolutely.

It has hurt me chances.... everyone around me feels that skinny cut me >>> fat me and I probably won't get to cut until summer of 06

No, Im still fat. I can just lift heavier things.

i don't know fucking know, i can't conduct a clinical trial with skinny me's and buff me's and see who gets more ass in the real world. ass might not even be the measure, it might be like perceived attractiveness or some shit.

No.

drunknmunky No, Im still fat. I can just lift heavier things. best answer ever

most worthwhile girls don't give a shit how many muscles you have...you just have to know how to "spit game" as they say.

with all the wrong girls, yes.

drunknmunky No, Im still fat. I can just lift heavier things. DOT

Nope. I dont try either, its 100 percent for myself. Ive actually rejected "putang"

I have got some ass, but it hasn't helped me get a g/f

Yes, on many occasions, before I settled down

Hahah. Oh yah it has. Don't know if its because I was mentally a slut just fat bodied earlier and the good body has instilled more confidence, or if its because they want me more, or both. But definately.

joy division most worthwhile girls don't give a shit how many muscles you have...you just have to know how to "spit game" as they say. So girls that are worthwhile only care how good your game is? Keep talking, I'm taking notes.

in a word: maybe I was a smooth pimp even before I got in shape

I'd have to say more than likely it has. Being 340lbs isnt' that attractive afterall

Im gonna have to say no for me, but i do have more confidence... i think.

ryazbeck ... i think. that means you don't

haha

It can really go either way. I've had girls tell me how much thicker I was than last time they saw me just from looking or from a hug. On the other hand others have told me how fat I look since I used to be so skinny.

I get more tang when I'm fat. Bulking rules

Girls don't like guys with big muscles.

Has lifting helped any of you score some putang?

tired eyes...

tired eyes...

in the morning when i wake up, one of my eye is smaller than the other, and when i completely relax the muscles on my face, it feels like the skin around smaller eye is kinda swollen or "lazy", causing it to feel like it doesnt want to open up usually at night this feeling goes away and my eye would be wide open again, but i was just wondering if theres any quick solutions to "wake my eye up"

Punch yourself in the face.

rub gasoline in your eye

reverse eye crunches > *

face pulls

do you wear contacts?

Jab yourself in the eye with a sharp object

tired eyes...

My mom accused me of taking steroids v.345435372299

My mom accused me of taking steroids v.345435372299

She watched that 60 Minutes thing last night and said I gained a ton of size and really thought I was on the sauce. She made me tell her on the phone that I've never taken steroids. I think the media is making too big of a deal of this, and I told my mom that. Are they healthy? No. But if you cycle them correctly and use them for a short period of time, they're really not all that bad. And they don't CAUSE heart disease, stroke, or suicide. They might contribute, but you can't assume causality from anecdotal cases because they are simply too many counfounds. I just like how everyone thinks they're steroid experts now.

excused you?

Next time, tell her that you're on a bunch of shit and that she can't do anything about it and hang up.

Ilyusha Next time, tell her that you're on a bunch of shit and that she can't do anything about it and hang up.

CrackSeed excused you? fixed

Take it as a compliment.

superbri007 my mom just said "wow, your really filling out" I shoulda said something like, "yeah, well my secret is the sauce" and then slapped her with my delt and raided her pantry

I like how they are grilling those NFL players for taking that androcream, when in actuality, its no where near potent enough to actually build any kind of real muscle even if taken in large amounts.

Perplexed My mother thinks my ON chocolate is steroids

beg her for money and tell her that if she doesnt get it to you you're going to kill her

jonno beg her for money and tell her that if she doesnt get it to you you're going to kill her roid rage!!!

haha my mom is the same way except she thinks the protein powder makes me fat!

my mom knows i've done Pros twice and I've talked to her about roids, she even recommended me to her old boss who regularly cycled juice so i could talk to him about it. i've never juiced tho.

Werdna She watched that 60 Minutes thing last night and said I gained a ton of size and really thought I was on the sauce. She made me tell her on the phone that I've never taken steroids. I think the media is making too big of a deal of this, and I told my mom that. Are they healthy? No. But if you cycle them correctly and use them for a short period of time, they're really not all that bad. And they don't CAUSE heart disease, stroke, or suicide. They might contribute, but you can't assume causality from anecdotal cases because they are simply too many counfounds. I just like how everyone thinks they're steroid experts now. show her a pic of me, she will apologize to you

PurEvl show her a pic of me, she will apologize to you

My mom accused me of taking steroids v.345435372299

My 1-ad experiment....

My 1-ad experiment....

When I did 1-ad before I took a dosage of 300mg in the first week and finished off at 500mg in the last week or two...going through 2 bottles. Went from 167-180 first time... and from 173-178lbs second time. First time, was terribly lethargic and libido went south by second week. Second time I took 4-ad along with it so really experienced no sides. This time I tried taking only 200mg throughout and experienced no sides. Despite eating relatively clean 4-5 days per week, my weight went up to 181lbs this morning. I was 178lbs before I started but weight did keep fluctuating to as low as 173lbs.

god you're so disgustingly fat........... Looking great man. I only had luck with 1ad the first time I tried it, the second time I kept increasing the dose to really high and didn't get anything but being really tired. Same with m1t. If I ever lean out again, I may look into doing the real thing.

i noticed no sides on m1t but i didnt get very good gains, i cut for week 1 and then bulked alot the last 3 weeks. i forgot my dosage but it was 3 pills a day when the recommended was 2 a day. i went from 216 down to 209 after week 1 then back up to 214, i worked out hard, but i think my main downfall was not sleeping enough.

trancezj god you're so disgustingly fat........... Looking great man. I only had luck with 1ad the first time I tried it, the second time I kept increasing the dose to really high and didn't get anything but being really tired. Same with m1t. If I ever lean out again, I may look into doing the real thing. And I only went through 1 bottle to boot. On other boards, most said 200mg is too low for most and would likely only cause shutdown w/o any of the benefits. Again, it was only 3 lbs but I didn't even want to gain but was trying to see if I could maintain and lean up above 175lbs.

This was last june at 170lbs. I actually prefer how I look here. Oh well... I'll be back there soon enough.

what do your arms measure?

gsteclipse97 what do your arms measure? I thnk he said they are 17.5. It is amazing what being cut does.

ryazbeck i noticed no sides on m1t but i didnt get very good gains, i cut for week 1 and then bulked alot the last 3 weeks. i forgot my dosage but it was 3 pills a day when the recommended was 2 a day. i went from 216 down to 209 after week 1 then back up to 214, i worked out hard, but i think my main downfall was not sleeping enough. So you used it for 4 weeks straight? At what dosage? I have some potential blood problems that's congenital so methyls aren't an option. 4-ad is still my favourite in terms of how I felt on it overall though maintaining a low dose of 1-ad makes me feel pretty good as well moodwise etc.

god i need bigger arms

ACURA TL-S I thnk he said they are 17.5. It is amazing what being cut does. This morning 17 5/8". Unfortunately my waist is up almost an inch. 28" this morning.

Timberwolf, everytime you post a new picture, I feel like shit and motivated to lift at the same time. Argh!!! Lookin' good though! I might have to try that stuff if it keeps working good for you!

timberwolf This morning 17 5/8". Unfortunately my waist is up almost an inch. 28" this morning. i wish i had your problem

Socrates Timberwolf, everytime you post a new picture, I feel like shit and motivated to lift at the same time. Argh!!! Lookin' good though! I might have to try that stuff if it keeps working good for you! oh god

jonno oh god seconded with an additional forehead slap followed by a heavy sigh

no, he thinks ur a fucking tool bag

My 1-ad experiment....