christoff is a big tuff guy.

christoff is a big tuff guy.

editing and deleting my intelligently thought out posts. it took me 3 minutes to right out that shit you deleted in one click.

christoff is a big tuff guy.

christoff is a big tuff guy.

its seems like no matter what i eat

its seems like no matter what i eat

i dont gain or lose weight. I have noticed myself gettin more firmer and stronger but i need to lose some FAT mang

eat less

jonno eat less i have been

Mecca i have been no you havent

Mecca i have been how long? count your calories

man im gonna have to go buy some groceries and do the math n shit

www.fitday.com free to register multiply your bodyweight by 10-12 and that's how many cals you should eat a day.

Mecca man im gonna have to go buy some groceries and do the math n shit yeah, you should just keep on doing what your doing now... it's obviously working for you....

Mecca man im gonna have to go buy some groceries and do the math n shit damn thats hard! i feel sorry for you having to do all that work.

its seems like no matter what i eat

using chains for bench help alot?

using chains for bench help alot?

just wondering like if you use lets says 135 in weights... and then put chains on it totaling out to weigh 48 pounds... worth using or not??

i have no idea what ur talking about, chains? why not just put a pair of 25's?

you need to be benching alot more than 135 before you even consider chains, christophers has repeatedly said that you need a good base before you start any type of this crap

Mistich you need to be benching alot more than 135 before you even consider chains i dont understand the chain thing...

depends on your goals. Read this article: http://www.powerpage.net/chains.html

ahh thanks for the link, get it now

eh i already rep at 185...

so i mean i have a stable base already...

i was just giving an example that thats how much i'd be using right there...

XsLiCk i was just giving an example that thats how much i'd be using right there... get to 315, then uyse chains

cootercritter i have no idea what ur talking about, chains? why not just put a pair of 25's? Do not speak of that which you do not know. Chains are used to increase resistance as the ROM reaches the top.

mike get to 315, then uyse chains I would say even higher than that. I am at 365 and not using them. I probably won't use anything until at least 405. The only thing that is holding you back is your lack of motivation and eating, not the equipment (unless you only have like a bar and two 45's or something).

tize shut up faggot, he stated that he didnt know about them. Kettle...black...get banned

Guys, guys...calm the fuck down. We are becoming worse then OT: MAIN now. Have some respect for eachother. Am I wrong?

Gutrat Guys, guys...calm the fuck down. We are becoming worse then OT: MAIN now. Have some respect for eachother. Am I wrong? no u dont neeed to use chains, repping 185 is not a solid base!!

vettedude no u dont neeed to use chains, repping 185 is not a solid base!! Wait, you misunderstood. I agree, not good enough base to start using chains. Your not ready for chains yet XslicK.

Gutrat Wait, you misunderstood. I agree, not good enough base to start using chains. Your not ready for chains yet XslicK. no i did not, i was just agreeing with u that we should not let F&N become gheyed up, and confirming the idea that he has no need for chains.

using chains for bench help alot?

So I finally stopped procrastinating and joined the gym.

So I finally stopped procrastinating and joined the gym.

I have been saying I was going to do it forever now and I finally got off my ass and did it. Anyways after reading the sticky by christophers I have a question. But first my goal I need to get from 33 % BF yes I am a fat ass. To 26 % BF. Or 285 # to 203 # which ever happens first. If I read the sticky right I need to eat ass loads of protein, and lift big. I maxed out at 215 on bench its the only thing I really did other than spend 45 minutes on the tredmill today. Will protein plus large weight get rid of my fat? I am in a hurry like 3 months to get down to 26 % Is this possible? If it is any help setting up a diet and work out routine would be greatly and I mean so greatly appreciated. Im going to read the noob sticky right now but here is what I have sort of set my diet at any corrections would be great. After reading the sticky I am thinking of upping protein even more and cutting out alot if not most of the carbs. Good or bad idea? Daily calories 2250 Protein intake 275 grams Fat intake 20 % 450 calories Carbohydrates = rest of calories

christophers the diet looks fine. lift + do cardio 3-4 times a week and youll be fine. Are there any specific exercises I should do? I know arms are pretty much a waste of time, or vanity muscles. The majority of my fat is attached to my gut, chest and legs. Any recomendations on what foods i should be eating to get my carbs and protein. I am on a very limited budget I only make 5.15 a hour so expensive suplements are out of the question.

Damn that sounds dumb I know I cant spot lose fat but I dont know what excersises or lifts to do to get the most benifit.

Silver85327 Damn that sounds dumb I know I cant spot lose fat but I dont know what excersises or lifts to do to get the most benifit. then do the most compound lifts you can... just make sure you get your form right before piling on weight. if you're not worried about "vanity muscles" maybe you could start with christophers "this is what built me a base" routine... http://forums.offtopic.com/showpost....86&postcount=1

christophers do the routine rummy linked you to. a good deal of ppl dont need direct bicep work to get decent arms. I just bookmarked it. Im going to the gym now I am going to research proper form on the excersises you have listed there, and then start that routine on friday.

Real quick what is 5rm? I know everything in your monday routine so Im going to use that today. But i dont have search feature so I cant look to see what 5rm is

just remember you can join every gym in america and not gain any progress, unfortunately the membership card doesn't effect health directly

christophers 5 rep max my suggestion is to take 2-3 weeks of 4 sets of 10 before you go into the routine as designated you must learn proper form before you get into havier stuff. so take the workout and for the areas that say 5rm and 3rm, just do 4 sets of 8-10 I only did 3 sets today. I couldnt get the 4th one up. I think I may have started way to close to my max. For example on my bench I worked 200 # 3x10 and when I went to do my fourth set I had such a hard time getting the bar up I didnt dare try to lower and lift I would have got stuck I know it. On my inclined DB press I forgot what reps i was supposed to do when I got to the gym so I just did 3x8 with 35 # db in each hand. The squats I didnt do as I have never done squats and I couldnt figure out how to use the weird ass rack they have. I did 155 3x10 on DL I was scared to hurt my back so I went easy as I wasnt sure on my form. Im going to try going a bit earlier in the day so I can catch some of the guys in there to ask for a spot while I figure out my max. I am kind of regreting joining the gym I did. I went in there today and there were 2 females working weighing in at approximatly 135 each around 23ish years old, and 1 guy about 50 years old not fat but soft looking. I am seriously doubting my safety if I try to do GM or find a max on my squats, I know those people would not be able to lift the weight off me.

You can bench 200x10x3 and you just joined a gym?

Ilyusha You can bench 200x10x3 and you just joined a gym? im 6ft tall and weight 285 pounds

Not to mention I do pretty physical labor alot so I dunno, maybe im just naturally strong? Not like you can see any muscle on me I have bitch tits

tuna is a good source of protein...as well as turkey and chicken and eggs

That's still pretty strong for never working out.. that's like a 250lb max or so.

Ilyusha That's still pretty strong for never working out.. that's like a 250lb max or so. are you implying that I am lieing? Thats what I take that smily face to mean.

christophers someone post the bsu.edu exercise site for this guy its lone of the few sites that displays stuff like good mornings correctly. i dont have it bookmarked. This one? http://www.bsu.edu/webapps/strengthlab/exercise.asp It sure looks like a nice gym in those pictures.

So I finally stopped procrastinating and joined the gym.

critique me *pic*

critique me *pic*

not the best pic, but its the most recent Ive got without a shirt on. not a great angle either but, tell me what needs improvement and what I *should* be doing thanks !

oh yeah, I just started cutting a few weeks ago. I hate this shit also, 6'2'' 210-215lbs

why is someone taking pics of you shirtless looking at condimints? Also look pretty good to me, work your upper pec more for now

stop shopping at albertson's first off

PurEvl why is someone taking pics of you shirtless looking at condimints? Also look pretty good to me, work your upper pec more for now can you explain why women do the things they do ? neither can I

Mass stop shopping at albertson's first off their lowfat cottage cheese is sooo good

PurEvl why is someone taking pics of you shirtless looking at condimints? Also look pretty good to me, work your upper pec more for now I agree with what the fat man said

take a better picture! like front and back.

your not asian why do u have that sauce!

AmCo your not asian why do u have that sauce!

AmCo your not asian why do u have that sauce! its good stuff, been using it for years

that stuff in your hand is good. work your pecs, looks good, you should bulk

You look good.. just get bigger. Especially the upper chest.

Delts and arms look good, work on upper chest. But you look big, I can't wait until i'm at that weight and lean.

kdubb's on the sauce!?!?!?!

Mass kdubb's on the sauce!?!?!?! obviously, look at the sex muscle

you kind of look like this guy Dominick Toretto I used to know. Worked at a small grocery store, drove a red rx7.

Mass kdubb's on the sauce!?!?!?! i think I might have some juice in the fridge as well

Socrates you kind of look like this guy Dominick Toretto I used to know. Worked at a small grocery store, drove a red rx7. did he have NOS?

No, NAWWWWZZZZZZ!!11!!!!

SteveO did he have NOS? Yes! Under his seat....

ibvindiesel?

SteveO obviously, look at the sex muscle

step 1) stop being bigger than me

whats your diet look like?

critique me *pic*

Whenever I take whey protein shakes

Whenever I take whey protein shakes

I have to take a massive shit 20-30 mintues afterwards and its explosive

yeah boyeeee and gas like a mother fucker.

ryazbeck yeah boyeeee and gas like a mother fucker. yeh wtf is taht supposed to happen

you aren't lactose intolerant are you? I am and have to take lactaid. Either that or you need to get used to the shakes

taqman15 you aren't lactose intolerant are you? I am and have to take lactaid. Either that or you need to get used to the shakes I know my dad is and I noticed I am a little extra sensitive to some dairy products maybe this just kills me I will take some lactaid next time

Cause my ass was pretty much bleeding this morning

i did alot a year ago when i started using it, anymore it doesnt make a difference

Opi i did alot a year ago when i started using it, anymore it doesnt make a difference

FrozynFyre Cause my ass was pretty much bleeding this morning pics

FrozynFyre haha, how long have you been using whey?

Opi haha, how long have you been using whey? 2 days

FrozynFyre 2 days haha, just keep at it, Its helped me a lot, you just gotta get past the first few weeks of excessive poo and gas

i used to have bad shits too, and found out i was lactose intollerant...so i use water...and no longer have bad shits

deznutz i used to have bad shits too, and found out i was lactose intollerant...so i use water...and no longer have bad shits Its not like ive never had milk before mayeb I should start using water to

I wouldnt have thought I was lactose till I had the shakes

Im going to go try one with water

FrozynFyre Its not like ive never had milk before mayeb I should start using water to it never gave me problems before......just happened when i found out the nice protein level and vitamins in milk and would drink a lot of it ....protein shakes and casually drink it

it mixed 100 times better tastes pretty much the same and it seems better with water

FrozynFyre it mixed 100 times better tastes pretty much the same and it seems better with water it def. tastes better with milk...it does mix better with cold water....but it tastes like crap with water, but ive gotten used to it

Mine doesnt taste bad at all

FrozynFyre Mine doesnt taste bad at all ok it doesnt taste "bad" but compared to my milk shakes it does

my dad told me he drinks soy milk and that I can use it whenever I want It will probaly taste better than water

Looks like the water did the trick I will try the soy milk tonight

being lactose is teh lose

I actually stoped using milk because it was bad for my skin, I have real annoying bacne and the milk wasnt helping any

Whenever I take whey protein shakes

Anything come even close to 1AD now that it's pulled?

Anything come even close to 1AD now that it's pulled?

haven't been doing much research lately. But I'd like to find some kind of replacement sometime soon. I seem to be stuck at around 190.

steroids

Grouch steroids I'm going to mexico in 2 weeks too...I'm tempted, I just hate needles and dbol alone doesn't seem to be worth it.

Intellex I'm going to mexico in 2 weeks too...I'm tempted, I just hate needles and dbol alone doesn't seem to be worth it. i want to go to mexico.

Grouch i want to go to mexico. We're renting a house in Rosarito for a couple days. One of the guys I'm going with is picking up a cycle. I did a cycle back when, but I progress enough on my own usually. I actually gained nearly as much on 1AD as I did on my cycle, kept more of it too.

i have 2 bottles of s1+ sitting here

mike i have 2 bottles of s1+ sitting here Wanna part with one of em?

Intellex Wanna part with one of em? One won't do much

I hear Superdrol makes good gains.

I still have a bottle of M1T...

Alt+F4 I still have a bottle of M1T... .

OMG FUCK PHS NOW THAT THETYRE ALL ILLEGAL GET THE JUICE DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Mike, ill take those two bottles if you wanna part with them

i still got a bottle of m1t too..i bet ill end up throwing the shit away.dont even know why i bought it.

Intellex did you notice any side effects from the 1-AD?

Let me gets this right. The stuff you used to take became illegal, so instead you will just take a different illegal substance. Brilliant!

Incog91 Let me gets this right. The stuff you used to take became illegal, so instead you will just take a different illegal substance. Brilliant! it's probably easier to get juice now rather than something like 1AD or M1T

Sgt. Ownage OMG FUCK PHS NOW THAT THETYRE ALL ILLEGAL GET THE JUICE DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH well you might as well.

Incog91 Let me gets this right. The stuff you used to take became illegal, so instead you will just take a different illegal substance. Brilliant! I think you need a collective slap in the face from all the brolies in there for being a god damned moron.

I believe I said in the last PH thread that there will be no public discussion of buying or selling around here. Keep it to PM's please.

I have a bottle of t4.

I know a guy who has a whole case of 1ad. Prob like 30 bottles of it. Im picking some off of him. I am in need of 4ad however.

There's a guy I know who owns a supplement shop here and he used to push most of the PHs in town. I bought my 1-AD 4-AD stack from him before the ban was in effect. I ran into him last week and he said that some new PHs are coming out that use completely different ingredients to get through the ban. Supposedly,if I remember what he told me right, they were thinking about revising the bill but that if they didn't the new stuff would be coming out sometime this summer. Fuck me, if only I could remember what it was called.

Anything come even close to 1AD now that it's pulled?