Just got my protein

Just got my protein

I went to the mall to get some myoplex whey protein and I found it on sale. I bought the chocolate. Went and worked out...then came home and had a shake :yummy: I love working out now and I can't wait till I start losing some significant pounds.

Just got my protein

Just got my protein

Cottage cheese on your sandwhich?

Cottage cheese on your sandwhich?

I eat cottage cheese with 2 of my meals, one being a chicken sandwhich. I usually take a bite of sandwhich and a bite of cottage cheese together, but has anyone here ever put it on their sandwhich? I've never heard of it and i'm assuming it would taste alright. Anyone ever try it? Good? Bad?

do it all the time, sprinkle some garlic on it

garlic?

man up and use your hands to eat it out of the tub. i personally think cottage cheese tastes really good. i do exactly that ^ but i use a spoon. heh.

whole grain + cc = winner

Cottage cheese on your sandwhich?

Cyclic diet question...

Cyclic diet question...

Is a cyclic diet pointless if you're not going to do "depletion" workouts and all that shit? My fat losss is stalling out so I need to change something up, but I'm happy with my lifting routine (more/less westside) as it is and would rather not fuck with it. From what I understand the whole goal of the cyclic diets is to amplify positive hormonal responses to food... so that even though you may be in a glycogen depleted, caloric deficit most of the time, the relatively brief windows when you are in a replenished, caloric surplus is sufficient to product the hormonal responses necessary to keep your metabolism chugging along... or am I missing the concept completely? Why can't you just manipulate the system through calorie intake and macro ratios? Why all the special workouts and shit? Is it oversimplifying it to just do a repetitive cycle of 2-3 no/low carb days followed by a high carb day? Any links to good cyclic plans that don't require special workouts? I've read a lot of stuff at bodyrecomposition.com since that seems to be the defacto reference for fat loss around here, but it seems most of the people there are doing the depletion workouts and cardio schedules.

Right...but what is the percieved positive benefit of the changes that make up the cycle, be it changing macros, total calories, whatever? I thought it was becuase the cyclic nature of it helped avoid the metabolism slump caused by extended periods of caloric deficit. Is that wrong?

Hmm... shit. Thanks for your help.

the positive benefit as i understand it from cycling is to avoid homeostasis (the survival mechanism). basically the body gets used to the changes and down-regulates any over-expressed enzymes it doesn't need. anytime that enzymes are downregulated due to a perceived surplus, your body is going to be in a catabolic state. that's the point of both carb and protein cycling - in carb cycling, your body figures out either that it's not getting carbs and stops producing so much amylase and in protein cycling, the body stops producing so much protease. if you keep eating a lot of carbs or protein when there are less enzymes to process the substrate, it just takes longer to process (which the body sees as an energy savings). if you vary your amounts of carbs and protein, the body never gets to set a point of energy savings since it cannot predict how much will come at once.

the depletion workouts are simply to lower glycogen levels (and keep them low) since that will be burned before any stored fat and the UD2 is for athletes looking to lose weight (and maybe add lbm) you need stored glycogen to be low to get the glucagon response and insulin is mutually exclusive so if there is sugar, you cannot activate the enzymes to burn fat

this is the point of bulking or cutting, because the success of one is the failure of the other due to the hormonal responses and enzymes involved

Cyclic diet question...

A slow absorbing protein blend?

A slow absorbing protein blend?

I read a good suggestion somewhere and I can't for the life of me find it. Something like this: http://www.proteincustomizer.com/pro...products_id=31 ? With a 60:40 blend? http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=1643 ? Like this? Or just drinking whey with milk to have it absorb slower? Any recommendations?

whey with milk and cottage cheese, throw in blender, mix till smooth

SpeedyGST whey with milk and cottage cheese, throw in blender, mix till smooth yeah I was thinking of doing that to save money. Getting cassein protein powder is more expensive. But cleaning a blender all the time sucks. I wonder if I can shake the shit out of the cottage cheese in a shaker.

AznRyda yeah I was thinking of doing that to save money. Getting cassein protein powder is more expensive. But cleaning a blender all the time sucks. I wonder if I can shake the shit out of the cottage cheese in a shaker. get a hand blender (motor boat as emeril calls it) so much easiar to clean

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...tchen&n=289916 Wonder if this can chop ice.

If you want a slow absorbing blend get a casein based protein.

cavefish If you want a slow absorbing blend get a casein based protein. bingo

proteincustomizer.com

cavefish If you want a slow absorbing blend get a casein based protein. Yeah. The ones I linked are casein based. I was just wondering what the optimal mix was and/or if there was anything I could do with normal whey protein to make it absorb slower so I could save money.

if you feel like wasting money, muscle milk is slow absorbing

y0gfx if you feel like wasting money, muscle milk is slow absorbing and heavenly

casein protein = slow burning. example: cottage cheese whey protein is the fastest absorbant protein that i would only take rite after the workout or during they day with some snacks. not for the night time protien.

devilangel casein protein = slow burning. example: cottage cheese whey protein is the fastest absorbant protein that i would only take rite after the workout or during they day with some snacks. not for the night time protien. milk + whey changes absorbtion rate. thats why I mentioned it.

you can pretty much take any protien as long as you somehow slow down the absorbtion in any way, for example, you can take any whey with any fiber rich food (oat meal, whole wheat, sweet potatoes, etc), then its all good..

AznRyda yeah I was thinking of doing that to save money. Getting cassein protein powder is more expensive. But cleaning a blender all the time sucks. I wonder if I can shake the shit out of the cottage cheese in a shaker. cottage cheese is more expensive than cassein blends though isnt it?

Undefined cottage cheese is more expensive than cassein blends though isnt it? Sure is. but sometimes I like eating real food.

I just use milk protein isolate. Its like 60% casein / 40% whey. They claim each portion digests independently, so you get the quick spike from the whey, and the prolonged release from the casein. I got it from TrueProtein, like $6/lb... which is a bit cheaper than either of the sources you posted...

i have milk protein isolate from allthewhey

tastes like ass, though. i may go back to whey + milk

A slow absorbing protein blend?

Judge strikes down FDA ban on ephedra!!!1

Judge strikes down FDA ban on ephedra!!!1

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7504443/

so it's coming back?

msnbc.com SALT LAKE CITY - A federal judge Thursday struck down the FDA ban on ephedra, the once-popular weight-loss aid that was yanked from the market after it was linked to dozens of deaths. advertisement The judge ruled in favor of a Utah company that challenged the Food and Drug Administration's ban. Utah-based Nutraceutical claimed in its lawsuit that ephedra "has been safely consumed" for hundreds of years. Supplements that included ephedra have been widely used for weight loss and bodybuilding, but have been linked to 155 deaths, including that of Baltimore Orioles pitching prospect Steve Bechler. The FDA ordered the substance off the market in April 2004. .

Now to see if this will be marketed well, challenges before chances of manufacturing, etc...

Noice

whats the big deal? ephedrine has been legal all along and I thought that it is better than ephedra, at least in to the degree that the concentration per tab is more uniform.

i read in one of the articles that the ball is in the FDA's court now or something along those lines giivng me the impression that although that judge ruled in favor of the utah company, the fda can still ban it.

meh who gives a shit really....

Dragon whats the big deal? ephedrine has been legal all along and I thought that it is better than ephedra, at least in to the degree that the concentration per tab is more uniform. Tell me how easily you can find ephedrine by itself, without a prescription...

Sgt. Ownage meh who gives a shit really.... no ph no care?

tryfuhl Tell me how easily you can find ephedrine by itself, without a prescription... 1fast400.com

gsteclipse97 1fast400.com tryfuhl Tell me how easily you can find ephedrine by itself, without a prescription... can you not read?

tryfuhl no ph no care? nah, just that ephedrine eclipses ephedra in price/effectiveness

mike so it's coming back? it was never really gone

Sgt. Ownage nah, just that ephedrine eclipses ephedra in price/effectiveness Yeah, but if this pans out, we'll be able to get it straight.. and in mixes as a dietary supplement... I don't think that some people are getting that ephedrine can't be in dietary supplements, or sold straight (easily), either

superbri007 1fast400 sells it by itself, last time i checked....but it was out of stock. now, ephedrine with Guaifenesin is another story Yeah, it's been out of stock for years though

spoofy it was never really gone you on the other hand, have been

http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=50 i wouldnt call this out of stock. jeez it was never gone, just the products like stacker and xenadrine were and every one makes to big of a deal of the guaifenesin

gsteclipse97 http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=50 i wouldnt call this out of stock. jeez it was never gone, just the products like stacker and xenadrine were and every one makes to big of a deal of the guaifenesin I know a pretty good deal about supplements, including herbs, I'm not making a "big deal" out of it. Honestly, have you taken eph with and without guaf?

tryfuhl I know a pretty good deal about supplements, including herbs, I'm not making a "big deal" out of it. Honestly, have you taken eph with and without guaf? yes i didnt notice a difference at all. i the one from 1fast has worked just fine for me

gsteclipse97 yes i didnt notice a difference at all. i the one from 1fast has worked just fine for me Sounds good; but this opens up the door (if all goes through) for more cheap premixes with stuff liek caffeine, etc already thrown in with it...

again that is

tryfuhl Sounds good; but this opens up the door (if all goes through) for more cheap premixes with stuff liek caffeine, etc already thrown in with it... true, but after i never liked xenadrine etc compared to my own stack. xenadrine made me feel like shit and my heart was gonna explode

tryfuhl you on the other hand, have been miss me?

gsteclipse97 true, but after i never liked xenadrine etc compared to my own stack. xenadrine made me feel like shit and my heart was gonna explode we could get good home-mixes from 1fast or something tho, if they choose to do one...

Judge strikes down FDA ban on ephedra!!!1

Retards who buy NO supplements.

Retards who buy NO supplements.

Firstly I hope nobody on this forum buys NO products... But I hate it when I see idiots posting on other places asking for the best NO product, spending like 100$+ on them when they do nothing.

I don't buy any supplements....

Yeah we all know that it's impossible to make gains without supplements

Peal I don't buy any supplements.... retard! :sarcasm:

Peal I don't buy any supplements.... typical response from teh alpha male wannabe. wanna come eat red eat w/ me?

brolli typical response from teh alpha male wannabe. wanna come eat red eat w/ me? Or someone responding to someone who takes what other people do w/ their lives a little too seriously...

what the hell is a no product

NO-Xplode, not "no supplements"

well thread starter is a douche either way

brolli typical response from teh alpha male wannabe. wanna come eat red eat w/ me? man what the fuck is wrong with you?

wtf

Ilyusha NO-Xplode, not "no supplements" exactly

NO-Xplode is an expensive product that gives people "energy", can be done with caffeine pills.

No.

brolli NO-Xplode is an expensive product that gives people "energy", can be done with caffeine pills. Yes, arginine and citrulline are the base of every energy supplement, and there is no caffeine in no-xplode, yep... okay

im confused

caffeine reverses the effest of NO products...and brolli, dont hate just cuz NO products havnt worked for you...

brolli NO-Xplode is an expensive product that gives people "energy", can be done with caffeine pills. Not really. They both increase blood flow, but via two totally different mechanisms. NO supps dilate blood vesseles (lowers blood pressure) and decrease their resistance which increases blood flow , while products liek caffeine and ephedrine increase blood flow by jacking up heart reate and constricting blood vessles (raises blood pressure)

Peal I don't buy any supplements.... i dont buy any supplements at all either.

you are all things non-broly ban!

brolli they do nothing. Confirmation: You're a certified idiot.

NoXeN you are all things non-broly ban! in!

pt Confirmation: You're a certified idiot. hi pot, its the kettle, your black j/k

wtf is going on in here

The first posts disturbes me.

Retards who buy NO supplements.

I feel like a spicy tuna roll for lunch today

I feel like a spicy tuna roll for lunch today

but I dont know if that will fill my fat ass up.

sushi styles? you should eat that expensive shit, its so good. except rock a salmon roll.

ryazbeck sushi styles? you should eat that expensive shit, its so good. except rock a salmon roll. Whats rock a salmon roll?

well if you're talking about sushi, then a salmon roll is the same as a tuna roll but with salmon...

ryazbeck well if you're talking about sushi, then a salmon roll is the same as a tuna roll but with salmon... Is that shit spicy though?

i think you can get them spicy. put some motha fuckin wasabi on that bitch and it'll be spicy

killerZees but I dont know if that will fill my fat ass up. For me, usually it takes tons of sushi (= $$$$$$$) to get full

I feel like a spicy tuna roll for lunch today